Phasing out the 2-smoker?!!

[TLDV8]

No,bound to follow the rest of the world - Kalifornia says no 2 strokes....Honda will make no more 2 strokes as their major market will no longer allow them.....NZ gets no more Honda 2 strokes....and in retrospec passes a no 2 stroke law.

What 2 strokes do Honda make besides a few dirtbikes and scooters.

Maybe i should give all my H2's away now Honda

[inlinefour]

What 2 strokes do Honda make besides a few dirtbikes and scooters.

Maybe i should give all my H2's away now Honda

I'll be around shortly with the van mate...

[beyond]

FUCK OFF ROTORS RULE BITCH

Yep, I loved my rotaries. Had a series 4 and a series 6 and selling my bat was a real sad day. Man that thing could go and stuck like glue in the corners.

[SwanTiger]

I believe Ixion posted something relevant to this based on correspondence between himself and a NZ Government official. The gist of it is that two strokes will not be banned in New Zealand.

EDIT: I just found the thread he created about this: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ad.php?t=34876

[inlinefour]

I believe Ixion posted something relevant to this based on correspondence between himself and a NZ Government official. The gist of it is that two strokes will not be banned in New Zealand.

However NZ Politicians are as fickel and change their mind more than a bus load of supermodels.
This might be the case at present but the NZ Govt is well know for reversing their earlier decisions and pushing ahead with things they said they would not be. Well I have not heard anything back from the LTSA, so who knows?

[Damon]

apparently there is something comming in for smaller bikes, eg under 50cc but nothing they know of for bigger 2 strokes

[SwanTiger]

However NZ Politicians are as fickel and change their mind more than a bus load of supermodels.
This might be the case at present but the NZ Govt is well know for reversing their earlier decisions and pushing ahead with things they said they would not be. Well I have not heard anything back from the LTSA, so who knows?

Check out this thread: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ad.php?t=34876

I'm not too worried about the 2 stroke engines being phased out, although it is surprising. I heard from a "boat expert" that they are trying to phase out the 4 stroke marine engines as they are more pollutent and less effecient than their 2 stroke counter parts.

The reason I am not worried is because the only two stroke I own is not road legal anyway

[inlinefour]

Check out this thread: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ad.php?t=34876

I'm not too worried about the 2 stroke engines being phased out, although it is surprising. I heard from a "boat expert" that they are trying to phase out the 4 stroke marine engines as they are more pollutent and less effecient than their 2 stroke counter parts.

The reason I am not worried is because the only two stroke I own is not road legal anyway

Yea I've seen that thread also, but that was for a warrent and 2 smokers being exempt from the visual exhaust rule? What I've been told refers to the issueing of a registration for a 2 smoker to put it back on the road or new ones.

[imdying]

Pfft, doesn't bother me. Bet ya the fine for riding one (probably only get nailed for using another bikes plate on it) will be bugger all, and I doubt very much I'd get pulled for it anyway.

[inlinefour]

Just got called back from Colin. Sounds like atm things are all good regarding old 2 smokers. However should anyone want to know more then the minisrty of transport should be consulted as they are responsible for the changes in legislation. Colin stated that provided a 2 smoker runs at the same level as when it was first produced or within 10% of that, things will be fine.

[Krayy]

Shit, now I'll have to buy a new lawnmower


Sesame St disclaimer: This legisilation was brought to you by the number 2 and the letter 'M' - proudly sponsored by Masport.

[SinstaNSR]

I'll ride mine weather they like it or not!!!!!

[Titanium]

2 strokes have been banned in California for years. All to do with a couple of new regulations (old now) EPA2006 which aimed to cut emmissions from vehicles by 50 % when passed in 2000? then they went 1 step further and bought out CARB 2008 (California Air Research Board) which aimed to reduce vehicle emmissions a further 80%? by 2008.

The first to feel the pinch were Jet ski manufacturers who lost their second largest market (behind Florida) over night, even fuel injected 2 strokes did not comply with EPA2006.

So it is the death for anything 2 stroke in California, the second largest market for anything in the states except fake titties and plastic surgery. No 2 stroke lawn mowers, weed eaters or anything are allowed in California.

If you get stopped by the 5-0 in California, they breath test your car before they breath test you.

Just my 10c worth.

[JeremyW]

Why not ban rotaries while you're at it?

OH please please do....

Does anyone know about this supposed wet sump 2-stroke? I am dubious and cant find anything on Google...

It does seem extremely unfair to outright ban 2-strokes. Maybe NZ might be a little more sensible and just create tight laws on them.

[Motu]

Trouble is 4 strokes can't take over all the roles of the 2 stroke.I just mowed my lawn with a 4 stroke - it sucks compared to my super grunty 2 stroke.They have 4 stroke weedeaters now,but they use premix! How can that be a reduction in emissions?

The wet sump 2 stroke is waiting for direct injection technolgy - buy a Mitsubishi GDI to see how far they are along with that project.