VTR1000 or SV1000

[insane1]

who the fark would want dover for lunch old and made of rubber past its use by date decades ago.

[SARGE]

Burger(s) for lunch or Dover?

who's buying burgers for lunch???? i musta missed that part

[insane1]

fark sarge you getting slow in your old age .by the way might just have bought myself a new bike gsr600k6 from bikesport hellensville $11995 out the door will look very seriously at this bfor friday.

[imdying]

fark sarge you getting slow in your old age .by the way might just have bought myself a new bike gsr600k6 from bikesport hellensville $11995 out the door will look very seriously at this bfor friday.

Oh yeah Wouldn't definitely ride that back to back with an SV before spending my wedge if I was you

[Kyle]

Ahhh the Burgman 250 scooter, ok so maybe not a cbr1000 then, or any 1000 for that matter. Have i got the bike for you, we have a Burgman 650 scooter in at the moment, mint condition, now thats a scooter!

[Clivoris]

Ahhh the Burgman 250 scooter, ok so maybe not a cbr1000 then, or any 1000 for that matter. Have i got the bike for you, we have a Burgman 650 scooter in at the moment, mint condition, now thats a scooter!

I've always fancied one of those babies. Now that's the bike for a man who is confident and comfortable with himself. Be even better with a pit-bull riding pillion on a pink one.

[TLDV8]

Isn't the SV1000 $12000 something out the door which seems like excellent value considering the 1997 TLS was $16000 and VTR $16500 new.

The only thing is like most modern bikes,the styling seem's to be based on Krytons head...or is it just me




Most bigger twins would be a little much coming from a non shift transmission as far as braking compression and rotating assemblies.A I4 is much more free revving although any modern 600 is no toy,they probably match a lot of the litre twins in the HP department.

[Rogue Rider]

I have owned both, and the SV is best by a long way for several reasons.
The SV1000s has a conversion to full fairing which is stunning,
better riding position,
overall better response on excelleration
light weight and fuel effecient,
cheaper parts,
cheaper outlay, good resale,
better colour,
Not fugly
wheelstands superbly,
looks way better set out and decked up with all the gear, or even standard.
Go the SV1000s not the 650s, price and resale is way better and trust me cheaper to go the whole hog and get the bigger one than upgrade at more expence later.

[98tls]

hell going by resale i would buy a TLs.................ive seen SVs cheaper than some TLs.......strange but true.........and yea les i totally agree.......

[insane1]

well anit gonna be anything but a gsr600k6 from bikesport hellinsville .

[The_Dover]

Uh huh. How long did it take you to crash it? BTW how many have you crashed to date?

Nothing personal, just wondering if the precedent is such a good one.

For ME to crash a gixxer, about 5 months, nothing to do with the bike tho.

[The_Dover]

dover you prick me thinks the burger would have you for lunch.

me thinks once you've woken up, day dreamer, that you can lick my balls.

[vifferman]

had a SV650S after my VTR250. A very rewarding experience. Specially when keeping up with the 600's in the twisties because you have more torque on tap, or overtaking VFR800's out of tight corners because you out torque them. The SVS's are a very fun sports or tour bike. I have done a SI tour on one.

Dream on, Dude!
An SV650 has a claimed 62Nm of torque, a VFR800 75Nm.
Since when was 62 more than 75?

I looked at an SV650 before I bought my VTR1000, as "everyone" said how great they were and how well they handled. I was singularly unimpressed; it reminded me of a lawnmower engine.

And another thought, it was a VFR800 that i was following when i crashed. he was dragging his footpegs around the corner (with his missus on the back even) The vfr800 out-handled and out-powered the vtr, and the rider out-rode me.

Must've been the rider.
But the VFR800 is a much better bike than the VFR in most respects, except to work on. Both have fairly 'budget' suspension, which is 'adequate' (damned with faint praise).
The VFR is a good all-round bike, which is why I bought it (my second VFR, and third V4). With a little bit of fettling, it's damned good.

[Zapf]

Dream on, Dude!
An SV650 has a claimed 62Nm of torque, a VFR800 75Nm.
Since when was 62 more than 75?

I looked at an SV650 before I bought my VTR1000, as "everyone" said how great they were and how well they handled. I was singularly unimpressed; it reminded me of a lawnmower engine.

Must've been the rider.
But the VFR800 is a much better bike than the VFR in most respects, except to work on. Both have fairly 'budget' suspension, which is 'adequate' (damned with faint praise).
The VFR is a good all-round bike, which is why I bought it (my second VFR, and third V4). With a little bit of fettling, it's damned good.

Could be true from someone who has developed a fine taste for bikes however for someone moving up from a VTR250, a SV650S is like a dream come true. Re the torque, don't forget that the SV650 is also a whole lot lighter than the VFR800.

[crash harry]

Could be true from someone who has developed a fine taste for bikes however for someone moving up from a VTR250, a SV650S is like a dream come true. Re the torque, don't forget that the SV650 is also a whole lot lighter than the VFR800.

Looking at the dyno sheets (here and here) it seems that the torque curves are pretty similar up to about 5000 RPM. Sure, above that the VFR takes off, but given that the SV650 is only 165kg and the VFR800 is 214 (data from bikez.com - may not be totally accurate) I'd say the SV would probably out-accelerate the VFR out of corners if you had the engine off the boil, all other things being equal.

But a lot depends on gear ratios. All I'm saying is that max torque / hp numbers don't really mean a lot, it's the curves that tel the story.