Drinking Age

[SN4PD]

Personally, I've always held the opinion that the drinking (sorry, procurement) age should be whatever age I am, minus any delta necessary to legalise entry for whoever I'm trying to get drunk enough to have sex with later on.

Well said

[WarlockNZ]

Personally, I've always held the opinion that the drinking (sorry, procurement) age should be whatever age I am, minus any delta necessary to legalise entry for whoever I'm trying to get drunk enough to have sex with later on.

Cha CHING!! .. LOL

[Lou Girardin]

All the negative stats relating to youth drinking have worsened since 1999. That's enough evidence for me, raise the legal age to 40.
(Driving age too)

[Ixion]

50. Definately needs to be at least 50 . 40 year olds and younger are too immature to drink, or drive.

[Lou Girardin]

Well this is an old chestnut innit?

Countries with low drinking ages (legal procurement ages for some!) have low alcoholism. Countries with high drinking ages have high alcohol problems.

There's obviously no link nor correlation here - I'm just setting it out there as a fact to chew over.

That's because of the wowserish, pinch-faced Protestantism that infects this country. Kids here are taught that alcohol is a rite of passage, they can't touch it till they're 'of age'. So this imbues boozing with the glamour of forbidden fruit.
Meanwhile the Europeans treat alcohol as a part of everyday life. We had wine with our meals at home as early as I can remember. But watered-down for kids. Drinking was never a big deal for us.
It's not just the kids in NZ who have to grow up.

[Grahameeboy]

That's because of the wowserish, pinch-faced Protestantism that infects this country. Kids here are taught that alcohol is a rite of passage, they can't touch it till they're 'of age'. So this imbues boozing with the glamour of forbidden fruit.
Meanwhile the Europeans treat alcohol as a part of everyday life. We had wine with our meals at home as early as I can remember. But watered-down for kids. Drinking was never a big deal for us.
It's not just the kids in NZ who have to grow up.

You are right Lou......there is something to be said for moderate use when younger like you mentioned so they don't then goi all out for it when they reach the legal age.
I guess the other issues is how the drinking age affects drinking and driving stats. Is is better to raise the limit? If so would this have a favourable effect of young drink drivers.

[BAD DAD]

Age limits are always too much of a generalisation when what we need but can't have is "maturity" limits The thing to remember whatever age you are when you are drinking, is that someone younger ( I really mean less mature ) is almost bound to be watching how you are drinking and being influenced by what they see.

[Wasp]

I've recently turned 18.

Honestly so long as I can go into a bar with everyone else after a ride I dont care.

Raise the wholesale age of alcohol (places like the mill, super markets, liqour land etc) to 20/21 but just let me go into a bar with the older guys after the group ride.

or would you older guys rather go to maccas or burger king after rides from now on?

[Ixion]

You can sit outside the door, with a raspberry cordial.

(I'm just teasing you. They'll let you in if you promise to stick to shandy )

[SN4PD]

or would you older guys rather go to maccas or burger king after rides from now on?

You a pansy or smthin

[Wasp]

You a pansy or smthin

nope, just saying if they do raise the age to get into bars then I'd have to stop going on all the group rides down here or go back to "sneaking" in like i was before i was 18.

only got caught out once anyway, was about my 4th visit to the bristol in town (the night lias came down to visit), pretty much got told to fuck off but i just sat down at the outside table/chairs while insanity_rules found lias in the pub then the bouncer came over and said very sternly that he'd let me stay but if any cops came i had to take off. so i sat there all, couldnt buy any food or anything. i didnt even want to buy a beer as me and ir had our bikes with us and would be riding home before 10.

once again, the problem in my eyes is the easy availability of alcohol to people around and below the 18yo mark. get rid of wholesale and you'd knock off atleast 50% of the problems.

[heavenly.talker]

get rid of wholesale and you'd knock off atleast 50% of the problems.

This is a very good idea Wasp
Tell us more.

[SN4PD]

once again, the problem in my eyes is the easy availability of alcohol to people around and below the 18yo mark. get rid of wholesale and you'd knock off atleast 50% of the problems.

Just got off the phone to Auntie Helen, she saw your eloquent post on KB and is going to put it to the policy comity tomorrow, all this waste of bandwidth hasn't been a futility


Seriously guys, you lot are a crackup

[James Deuce]

Raise it to whatever you want, it isn't going to stop the REAL problem drinkers from getting pissed and roving around in groups that behave like a congealing amoeba.

14-16 year olds are the "problem" that is supposedly being addressed by the drinking age.

Warlock you;re shitting me right? That's the same argument that gets trotted out for everything that needs public reinforcement of a political argument with no substance.

A minority go through a high visibility system like a hospital or Police arrest records so raising the age/increasing the detterent must be the only way to go. You see a minority of people come through hospital so the people who use the product as intended must be punished too?

[James Deuce]

once again, the problem in my eyes is the easy availability of alcohol to people around and below the 18yo mark. get rid of wholesale and you'd knock off atleast 50% of the problems.

No! Move it entirely back to the wholesalers, remove it from Dairies and Supermarkets and then police the damn wholesalers. Accountability at point of sale.