Suzuki - Vrod - What The

[Big Dave]

name 1 good thing they have going for them that you can't match or better on a japanese bike,

resale, street cred, finish, 'feel good', accessories & clothing, user groups, dealer support, aftermarket parts...

[Ixion]

Not to mention potato-potato

[scumdog]

resale, street cred, finish, 'feel good', accessories & clothing, user groups, dealer support, aftermarket parts...

Wot he sed.

Nothing against other bikes though.

[Big Dave]

Not to mention potato-potato

Not to mention potatoe potartoe

[98tls]

on the resale thing....the guy i mentioned in previous post that bought the new harley wanted to trade his old...96 0r 98 sporty in....this thing is mint and had a very easy life.....they didnt want to know..strange i thought...wasnt a question of dollars..they just didnt want a trade in....would have thought a dealer would damn near be obliged to take a trade..especially one in good nick...

[Boulevard 109 rider]

[QUOTE=BuckBuckNo1;820233]Yesterday I was having an afternoon ride and was approaching the roundabout at Silverstream Bridge taking a right, and up on the left lane were two immaculate looking Suzuki bikes taking a right, the were silver grey with boulevard [I think] on the tank and low wide rear wheel. I was gob smacked they looked just jaw dropping great.

Anyone else seen these bikes - What The are they?

Heads Up and Enjoy


They is definatly a 109, grin from ear to ear, mine accelerates from 0 to 120 in about 2 seconds top speed is 253kph uncorked.

[Shadows]

and the Harley Is still a piece of poorly engineered crap

[limbimtimwim]

and the Harley Is still a piece of poorly engineered crap

Porsche did help them with the vrod motor... And they know how to make an absolute truckload of power from a small engine. I'm not saying it's going to be reliable, but it won't be weak..

[Big Dave]

on the resale thing....the guy i mentioned in previous post that bought the new harley wanted to trade his old...96 0r 98 sporty in....this thing is mint and had a very easy life.....they didnt want to know..strange i thought...wasnt a question of dollars..they just didnt want a trade in....would have thought a dealer would damn near be obliged to take a trade..especially one in good nick...

They probably had 5 of them on the floor already and I've seen the margins. It's not the licence to print money some think.

If you want to do real well out of Harleys - buy stock.

[outlawtorn]

and the Harley Is still a piece of poorly engineered crap

hey thanks for adding something constructive and informative to the mix - NOT

[Phoenix]

Nice troll! (so what IS so badly engineered?)

Pushrods are mechanically inefficient, cars havent had pushrods in since the 70's, theres a good reason, driveshafts which are integral to the engine are a lot more efficient than the ones of HD's. I like the LOOK of some Harley's, the SOUND is variant between them all

[Phoenix]

resale, street cred, finish, 'feel good', accessories & clothing, user groups, dealer support, aftermarket parts...

any jappa has all that crap amongst people who like japanese bikes. Harley is a label just like Dolce Gabbana, gullible buy into labels or ones with little dicks

[Ixion]

Pushrods are mechanically inefficient, cars havent had pushrods in since the 70's, theres a good reason, driveshafts which are integral to the engine are a lot more efficient than the ones of HD's. I like the LOOK of some Harley's, the SOUND is variant between them all

Nonsense. In many respects pushrods are more efficient than overhead cams. The drives to OHC (belt or chain or gear) are notoriously the most unreliable part of modern vehicles, and the lack of a mechanical multiplier with bucket cam followers puts heavy loads on camshafts. Having such fast moving sahfts in the cylinder head also requires either complex and expensive lubrication systems or expensive bearings. Camshaft bearing failure is well known.

And if the engine is not designed to rev past about 7000 rpm (which Harleys are not), then OHC offers no advantages whatsoever.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Harleys don't particularly rock my boat but I've had a good look at them, and there's certainly nothing wrong with their engineering.

[Big Dave]

Indeed mr ixion - my pushrod motor with hydraulic valve adjustment has 8,000km service intervals with no adjustments between.

It also has what I regard as the 'nicest' engine of any motorcycle I've ridden.

Something about shape of the combustion chamber roof can be achieved which enhances the torque charcteristic.

No shims, no cam chains, no tensioners, no adjustments and a most satisfying 103 horsepower.

Positively bohemian.

[Big Dave]

any jappa has all that crap amongst people who like japanese bikes. Harley is a label just like Dolce Gabbana, gullible buy into labels or ones with little dicks

FWIW I have one of the coolest jobs in motorcyledom, a reasonable IQ and as far as wedding tackle goes - read the name.
I also already have a Harley product and would like several more.