Speeding Tickets

**Snapper** · 17th November 2006, 10:36

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

Oh I agree entirely, but in the hands of an L plate rider I'd expect some naive decisions to be made. How the court treats them is over to the court (or whoever is examining it) but I know I don;t like it when someone's right up my date - cop or no.

And without lights and sirens? It's presenting more of an immediate threat than a request to pull over isn't it?

I have to say, pulling over didn't enter my mind. And I wasn't speeding up to do anything but get some distance and to get away from a car and driver I found a distraction and intimidating. Bottom line for me personally is that he even admitted when he came up the highway behind me (I presume to follow me) he said I was fine doing 120. So could one not assume if he hadn't come up behind me at-all I would have continued at 120. I can assure you I would have. So would the offense have occured if he hadn't have been up my arse? No I don't believe it would!

Annoying situation. I REALLY appreciate everyone's comments - thanks!!!

**dnos** · 17th November 2006, 10:43

What?
If your on your learners then even at 120 your 50 ks over your speed limit.
Don't think you've got much chance of getting out of this one, but by all means go to the PCA and make a stink about the situation.

**Snapper** · 17th November 2006, 10:46

Originally Posted by dnos

What?
If your on your learners then even at 120 your 50 ks over your speed limit.
Don't think you've got much chance of getting out of this one, but by all means go to the PCA and make a stink about the situation.

Good point. I still think he's driving contributed to the overall offense, guess there's no harm in trying. Especially the fine for no L plate!

**MrMelon** · 17th November 2006, 10:51

Ah man that sux. Didn't you just get your license back?

Some cops are ok, but the ones who do stuff like that are wankers.

**McJim** · 17th November 2006, 10:51

Rear facing camera with Flash gun - thumb control for camera...cop or no - someone up your arse at night is farken dangerous - take photo then gap it - no-ones gonna follow you when they're blind!

(P/T - don't actually do this at home kids or you could be facing charges for manslaughter.)

**McJim** · 17th November 2006, 11:40

Originally Posted by dnos

What?
If your on your learners then even at 120 your 50 ks over your speed limit.
Don't think you've got much chance of getting out of this one, but by all means go to the PCA and make a stink about the situation.

It's actually 2 seperate offences. Riding at 100kph in a 100kph zone on a learners licence is not actually speeding. It is a breach of your licence conditions (25 points and $400.00) so he committed this offence anyway. On top of that he has the offence of exceeding the speed limit by 40kph whatever the charge for that is (I will never know as my bike doesn't go that fast!) D50 usually pops his head in with all the technical aspects when he comes online...don't let him near your toilet though...

**The_Dover** · 17th November 2006, 11:53

Originally Posted by scumdog

Second up: Radar (I think you meant detector) won't save your sorry arse if the cop is following you.

Glad to be of help.

yes it will.

my radar doesn't have a rear facing antenna like the V1 but it still smells the bacon up my arse.

**Biff** · 17th November 2006, 12:07

My advice:
1. Take the rap. You were caught.
2. Programme this number into your mobile: 0800 503 728. This gets you through to the police complaints dept. Use it if you're pulled by a cop who you 'genuinly' feel threatened by - In front of him/her.

**TLDV8** · 17th November 2006, 12:34

Originally Posted by Snapper

I have to say, pulling over didn't enter my mind. And I wasn't speeding up to do anything but get some distance and to get away from a car and driver I found a distraction and intimidating. Bottom line for me personally is that he even admitted when he came up the highway behind me (I presume to follow me) he said I was fine doing 120. So could one not assume if he hadn't come up behind me at-all I would have continued at 120. I can assure you I would have. So would the offense have occured if he hadn't have been up my arse? No I don't believe it would!

Annoying situation. I REALLY appreciate everyone's comments - thanks!!!

Good luck

but feel it will be to late after the fact...Not having a full license will be a minus given the 120 kmh for starters.

All that crap is a learning curve,one being any car catching up in the mirror then trailing you is more likely going to be a cop and not a motorcycle serial killer.

Why did you not ask the dude what he was up to on the spot.?

One thing i have noticed lately.A good number of the HP are GB import's with sly tactic's.Of course how does it go..... Don't hate the player.....

**Ixion** · 17th November 2006, 12:49

Originally Posted by The_Dover

yes it will.

my radar doesn't have a rear facing antenna like the V1 but it still smells the bacon up my arse.

Not if the cop's a sneaky sneaker like Mr Scumdog, who doesn't turn it on!.They don't have to radar you y'know, if he's following you. Just look at his speedo. And maybe a flick at the last minute when he's ready to pull you, by which time the detector is too late

**Fatjim** · 17th November 2006, 12:52

Your screwed mate. Life sucks.

Take it court and the cops will lie.

PCA, what a joke.

The only way you are going to get anywhere is this.

Wait for the reminder.

Deny the charge.

When they follow it up tell your story and say you have 5 witnesses (they were following you in a car) prepared to back you up. (make sure you do, unless you're comfortable with bluffing).

With our justice system, you win when the judge believes your lies. Works for both sides.

I'd put it through the PCA at the same time for more credability, but you won't get any joy there in terms of justice.

BTW, most cops who are straight have a hard time believing any aren't.

**McJim** · 17th November 2006, 13:05

Originally Posted by Ixion

Not if the cop's a sneaky sneaker like Mr Scumdog, who doesn't turn it on!.They don't have to radar you y'know, if he's following you. Just look at his speedo. And maybe a flick at the last minute when he's ready to pull you, by which time the detector is too late

Interesting - how accurate do Holden certify their speedometers to be? Most manufacturers it's +/- 10% I think. Could reduce the chargeable speed to 126kph if contested by a decent lawyer.

**Snapper** · 17th November 2006, 13:34

All very good advise. The whole leaners 70k thing is a joke surely, I mean how safe would it be on ANY NZ road to do 70? As much as cops and judges might not like it, most of is do more, slightly more, than 100k's...

Mr Melon - no, I didn't get served with a demerit ban, so this has reduced a 4 month (1 month for breach of license and 3 months for demorit total) ban. Maybe I should just 'wear' it after all.

I just feel this one time, I wasn't intending to speed, I had no reason too. Not that I need a reason....

I'm off to the UK soon, I'll lay low, and bide my time and options before I make any moves.

I had it coming.

**Deano** · 17th November 2006, 13:42

Originally Posted by Snapper

The whole leaners 70k thing is a joke surely, I mean how safe would it be on ANY NZ road to do 70?

Any road in a 50kph area would be safe.

If your restricted to 70kph, and it's too dangerous to venture onto the motorway/highway, surely you stay in 50kph areas ?

Perhaps this is what govt intended when they introduced that rule ?