P/Methamphetamines

[Big Dave]

Sure it's just a beat up - Junkies are junkies regardless of the powder.

Vile, filthy shit and if anybody gets a glass pipe out in front of me again I'll smash it - seriously.

Completely fucked the careers/lives of people I know were using and personally.

Intervene for your family if you can mr nut.

[Postie]

This a poem that is on the ZM web site from last week. The picture on the left is without P, the one on the right is +P.

Heartbreaking!
"I AM CRYSTAL METH "

This was written by a young girl who was in jail for drug charges, and was addicted to crystal meth [P] . She wrote this while in jail. As you will soon read, she fully grasped the horrors of the drug, as she tells in this simple, yet profound poem. She was released from jail, but true to her story, the drug owned her.

Please keep praying for our Children, Teens, Young adults. Understand, this thing is worse than any of us realize...


My Name is: " P "

I destroy homes, I tear families apart,
take your children, and that's just the start.
I'm more costly than diamonds, more precious than gold,
The sorrow I bring is a sight to behold.

If you need me, remember! I'm easily found,
I live all around you - in schools and in town.
I live with the rich; I live with the poor,
I live down the street, and maybe next door.

I'm made in a lab, but not like you think,
I can be made under the kitchen sink.
In your child's closet, and even in the woods,
If this scares you to death, well it certainly should.

I have many names, but there's one you know best,
I'm sure you've heard of me, my name is crystal meth.
My power is awesome; try me you'll see,
But if you do, you may never break free.

Just try me once and I might let you go,
But try me twice, and I'll own your soul.
When I possess you, you'll steal and you'll lie,
You do what you have to -- just to get high.

The crimes you'll commit for my narcotic charms
Will be worth the pleasure you'll feel in your arms, (your lungs, and your nose).
You'll lie to your mother; you'll steal from your dad,
When you see their tears, you should feel sad.

But you'll forget your morals and how you were raised,
I'll be your conscience, I'll teach you my ways.
I take kids from parents, and parents from kids,
I turn people from God, and separate friends.

I'll take everything from you, your looks and your pride,
I'll be with you always -- right by your side.
You'll give up everything - your family, your home,
Your friends, your money, then you'll be alone.

I'll take and take, till you have nothing more to give,
When I'm finished with you, you'll be lucky to live.
If you try me be warned - this is no game,
If given the chance, I'll drive you insane.

I'll ravish your body, I'll control your mind,
I'll own you completely, your soul will be mine.
The nightmares I'll give you while lying in bed,
The voices you'll hear, from inside your head.

The sweats, the shakes, the visions you'll see,
I want you to know, these are all gifts from me.
But then it's too late, and you'll know in your heart,
That you are mine, and we shall not part.

You'll regret that you tried me, they always do,
But you came to me, not I to you.
You knew this would happen, many times you were told,
But you challenged my power, and chose to be bold.

You could have said no, and just walked away,
If you could live that day over, now what would you say?
I'll be your master, you will be my slave,
I'll even go with you, when you go to your grave.

Now that you have met me, what will you do?
Will you try me or not? It's all up to you.
I can bring you more misery than words can tell,
Come take my hand, let me lead you to hell.

[Mr. Peanut]

Mr P nut...

[Mr. Peanut]

Sure it's just a beat up - Junkies are junkies regardless of the powder.

Vile, filthy shit and if anybody gets a glass pipe out in front of me again I'll smash it - for their own good. Save me the trouble of doing it after they rip off my garage.

Completely fucked the careers/lives of people I know were using and personally have no more time for the losers who are too weak to say no.

Intervene for your family if you can mr nut.

I got three kids living with me now... does that count?

[Big Dave]

I got three kids living with me now... does that count?

Not sure what u mean - I'm talking friends and former associates. We have had to toss a coin to see who 'intervened' with mates before.
Fortunately I won and didn't have to - but confronting it openly seems the best way. Or maybe even try some community help.

I moderated my previous post after proper consideration. I get a bit 'emotional' on the subject.

[Hitcher]

I marvel at times at the contradictory nature of some human behaviours.

At one level society demands greater safety standards around the consumption of food and beverages, particularly labelling to tell people from whence these goods came, and when, what's in them (with a plethora of detail about ingredients, such as sugar, salt, fats), by when they should be consumed, how they should be cooked, etc. The regulations around who can manufacture, distribute and sell food and beverages are formidable. We are bombarded daily with information about the evils of "fast" food, CocaCola and the plight of the battery hen.

Yet on another level, people are more than happy to injest mind-altering substances from a bloke they met in the pub, that were prepared by a couple of in-bred, illiterate hoodies in the back of their de-facto's garage in Naenae.

And, like domestic violence and child abuse, nobody really gives a shit. We appear to be more concerned about matters like icebergs and whether or not or where Aucklanders should receive a taxpayer-funded stadium.

[Paul in NZ]

Thats very true mr H...

I wonder if it's because the govt etc want to keep control of these 'crimes' and the don't allow the community to 'do' anything about it?

Stuffed if I know.

But then I don't know anyone who uses it - or at least they sure don't tell me about it because I have no tolerance for it.

[WRT]

I moderated my previous post after proper consideration. I get a bit 'emotional' on the subject.

Fair enough too, its a very emotional subject for a lot of people. To be honest however I actually read your first post thinking "this is the same attitude as the police, which hasnt worked so well for them".

I'm helping with one of my best mates at the moment. Its been a very tough road for him, but at the end of the day he could see what it was doing to his life, and it was HIS choice to make the break. I think that it needs to be that way, you cannot force someone to give up, they'll only go behind your back. They have to want to do it, and they will need your full help to do so.

Six months down the track and unfortunately my mate has had significant other problems in his life (he's been crapped on by others that are still using, robbed, had a harsh break up with his long term girlfriend - after he quit, by the way - as well as many other troubles) but he's pulling through. It's hard to witness, he's got a heart of gold and life has been taking the opportunity lately to kick him repeatedly while he is down. Even in the depths of his using, he never resorted to robbery to screwing people over (although he has ticked up some big debts hes now working to pay off), but he did see the shift in his attitudes and other aspects of his life that were significant enough for him to see the need for change.

Again, its my belief that the person has to recognise that they need to quit, otherwise they will go back to the drug (which ever drug it should be).

[Black Bandit]

Had some low life fuckers renting the granny flat on our property. Started off OK then started skipping rent, having visitors at all hours etc. Next thing get home from work and find a dozen cops on the property arresting his broken ass. Bods in boiler suites going through all their stuff. Turns out he was using/cooking up P, storing all the bulk chemicals for that shit and had unlicenced firearms on the premises! Now the flat is condemned and needs to be stripped out and chemically "cleansed".

Can't get any income from the granny flat anymore

The physical affects of P are quite frightening - faces get all scabby from the scratching they do as they suffer withdrawl ...

[Mr. Peanut]

Or we could just throw them in a room, nail the door shut, and check every few days.

"You over it?"

..........

"no..."

SLAM!

[Colapop]

You can't make anybody do anything. Smoking. drugs, drink driving - thay aint gonna stop unless they want to or can no longer physically do it. Tell them all you like. Lock them in a room (jail). It makes no difference, as soon as they're able they'll be using again.

[Mr. Peanut]

Not so much making them do anything as making them do nothing.

[WRT]

Not so much making them do anything as making them do nothing.

I'm not quite sure that you have an accurate grasp of the situation . . . quitting is harder than continuing - just ask any smoker.

[Mr. Peanut]

I'm a bit tired.

[Pixie]

Sure it's just a beat up - Junkies are junkies regardless of the powder.

Vile, filthy shit and if anybody gets a glass pipe out in front of me again I'll smash it - seriously.

Completely fucked the careers/lives of people I know were using and personally.

Intervene for your family if you can mr nut.

The problem lies with the invertebrate personality defectives that use the substances (alcohol included )

Seriously,last week some current affairs program had some retards using the latest legal hallucinogen on the market,these morons actually sounded like they aspired to be Cheech and Chong