More Transit discrimination against bikes. FIGHT BACK

**Zapf** · 22nd November 2006, 18:56

doch... only saw this now.

**klingon** · 22nd November 2006, 19:20

Hmmm... went to Rockfield Road but couldn't find Danish House. I presume it's a house shaped like a giant pastry? Found Holland House but there was nobody home. Scanned the street for parked bikes but couldn't find any of those either.

Oh well, maybe next time.

**klingon** · 22nd November 2006, 20:05

Originally Posted by Ixion

Danish House Rockfield Rd Penrose 7:30 pm

ha ha ha or could that be Danish House, Rockridge Ave, Penrose? (I'm so glad it's Ixion who's going nuts, not me

)

**Ixion** · 22nd November 2006, 20:14

Well, that was a total balls up that was. Not only got the address wrong, but one of you buggers might have pointed out to me that it was LAST week. On account of some cunt making the 1st November a Wednesday.

Sorry about that folks. I'm sure I could have got it more wrong if I'd tried, but I'm not sure how.

I think I'll begin again at the beginning.

(and what fool would have a Rockfiled Rd and a Rockridge Rd in the same suburb. I just know it as the first right after the railway line by the bad smell.)

Sorry, folks. I'll stop digging now.

**sAsLEX** · 22nd November 2006, 20:25

Originally Posted by terbang

Oh don't call me sir. I work for a living.

Pilots dont if your taking the traditional Military meaning of your saying............

Originally Posted by Ixion

Allowed to use bus lanes in town (under control of LTSA). Not allowed to use ones on motorway (under control of Transit)

WRONG!

You are not allowed to use the lanes on the MW as they are not "BUS LANES" per say but emergency stopping lanes and therefore the law covering them prohibits bikes using them. Transit however has an agreement with bus companies allowing them to use these lanes, and marks them as "BUS LANES", we as the public are meant to just know this and be able to differentiate between magic Transit buslanes and the standards bus lanes.....

Of course they could simply follow the bus lane law and "specifically exclude" motorbikes but that seems to be above their level of intelligence!

**Indiana_Jones** · 22nd November 2006, 20:35

The point of the motorway is to take traffic off the local roads. :P

-Indy

**rainman** · 23rd November 2006, 18:51

Soooo, is there going to be a meeting where we get to talk to the esteemed Mr McComb about his dumbass ideas or not, and is it open to noobs like me that only recently vaguely figured out what a BRONZ is? If so, when and where?

Oh, and btw, hi all - been lurking for a little while, but thought I'd pop my head up and get involved in this thread.

**Ixion** · 23rd November 2006, 19:43

I hope so. Waiting for reply from mr C about what date/time/place suits him.

And I would say that all would be welcome'

**Drum** · 23rd November 2006, 19:59

Can I just say that Peter Mccombs is not an dumbass nor a career bureaucrat. He was previously a director of an engineering consulting firm, and has a good reputation in the industry.

The proposed motorway ideas are not his. As I understand it he was a consultant to Transit on the ramp metering proposals, and is now on board to assist the project.

Respect him, and you will likely get respect back.

**rainman** · 23rd November 2006, 21:34

Originally Posted by Drum

Respect him, and you will likely get respect back.

Point taken, I don't know the guy and am probably being a bit harsh. It's just easy to be frustrated with the frequent lack of consideration shown to motorcyclists' needs by Transit and others. I mean, it's not like we're an unmitigated evil...

Question: how likely is it that Transit will reconsider this decision? I'm not saying "give up now, it's hopeless", but what kind of representation would we have to make to them that would have a real chance of convincing them? He'll earn my respect if he's receptive to fairly considering another opinion, and has enough clout to make his decisions happen. Otherwise he'll just be blowing sunshine up our collective arses.

**Drum** · 23rd November 2006, 21:39

Originally Posted by rainman

P............
Question: how likely is it that Transit will reconsider this decision? I'm not saying "give up now, it's hopeless", but what kind of representation would we have to make to them that would have a real chance of convincing them? He'll earn my respect if he's receptive to fairly considering another opinion, and has enough clout to make his decisions happen. Otherwise he'll just be blowing sunshine up our collective arses.

Theres always a chance they will reconsider. It may just be a case of no-one bringing motorcycles to their attention. Being confrontational will just make them defensive. You need to convey your ideas rationally.

The fact that he's willing to listen to you is a good start.

**Ixion** · 23rd November 2006, 21:43

My impression from talking to Mr McCombs is that there has been no specific decision yet. ie they haven't decided to EXCLUDE bikes, just haven't decided to INCLUDE them

We will give Mr McCombs the benefit of the doubt until he provides reason to think otherwise. Especially if he is not a career bureaucrat.

EDIT: I also strongly suggest that any dealings with Mr McCombs stick strictly to the question of bikes on the priority lanes, and avoid alotogether the matter of the sensibleness or otherwise of the whole ramp metering thing. Apart from a vague , jolly good courageous innovation and such vaguary if pressed for an opinion.