The politics aside, is it a good idea to build a stadium at sea level?
The politics aside, is it a good idea to build a stadium at sea level?
Most of them in NZ are.
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The only reason they want the world cup here is for the revenue they get.
Can you imagine the carnage the stadium will have on the CBD traffic problem. Whether they build it at the waterfront or Eden Park, it makes no difference, you wont be able to get in or out no matter what transport you are in, for at least 4 hrs. Umm upon reflection make that 6 hrs. 3 hrs is for a Super 12 game. We havent been able to fix Aucklands traffic problems in the last 20yrs, so nothing will be done by 2011.
They could utilise the North Harbour Stadium in Albany, which is outside the congestion areas. At least two main roads lead in to the area from central Auckland, it has large areas of undeveloped land. There is a huge shopping center going in near the stadium that will be bigger than Slyvia Park in Mt Wellington. A bus depot is there already..all it needs is accomodation and pubs built for the masses.
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personally guys id much rather my tax dollars were spent on healthcare and lets look after our aged as they biult this fine country fuck homo thugby.![]()
It's all very well having a poll about this and voicing opinions but at the end of the day it's probably gonna happen anyway - it'll cost lots of tax dollars that we wouldn't have seen either (would have got locked away in Auntie Helen's Surplus).
Don't you just love the warm feeling of impotence you get from NZ politics?
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Whether you whining bitches like it or not NZ is hosting the rugby world cup on 2011 and the majority of New Zealanders do care about rugby, it's the national sport for fucks sake. Can you imagine this in the UK?? A bunch of whiney fuckin bikers proclaiming that no one cares about football and we dont want the fuckin world cup in london, it's got enough traffic problems, I dont like football............shut the fuck up.
The stadium debate is a different story altogether. It's been a shambles from the beginning and whatever option they choose then double the budget because the project managers, government bureaucracy and useless construction companies are going to piss good money after bad, a la Vector Arena. (I wont even mention consultants)
Eden Park - Get fucked, crap position, useless transport infrastructure and the construction traffic alone would make life in the area hell for a long time.
Waterfront - Bit gay really and no parking, just don't make it another caketin - that place has no atmosphere. If they hijacked the cast from Thomas the Tank Engine then maybe access by rail would be worth it but it would also involve upgrading all of the other piss poor excuses for stations on the rail network.
Albany (North Harbour Stadium) - Forget it, I went to a Blues game there a few years ago and despite the stadium being half empty (all ONE stand of it) the traffic was a nightmare. Anything that involves the majority of people crossing a bottleneck like the harbour bridge to get there is a waste of time and developing it to a capacity worthy of a major final would mean starting again (that stand is too small).
The problem with all of the sites proposed in Auckland is that there is usually only one way in or out due to the geographical nature of the city. Send it to Hamilton, it's got roads coming in from everywhere, is central to a load of major(ish) centres and nobody lives there anyway so there's plenty of land and no one to piss off as we build a HUGE stadium.
Either that or build a big stadium in Papakura and I can charge people 5 bucks a pop to park on my lawn.
Such eloquance and delicacy, Dover.
But yes, as it happens, I can imagine this in the UK. Folks in a minority used to bitch all the time about how much football was on TV etc. But it appears to be even more fanatical here. Seems to me everything stops for a Rugby match. And you are guaranteed a wind-up by those who don't share the enthusiasm for what is after all only a game!
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I was overseas when this whole thing took off n became a huge issue...
Dont know the whole story... But from what I gather... stadium either on the waterfront or upgrade of Eden Park.
I think that if either way they are gonna spend shit loads of $$...
then the waterfront is the better option in terms of transport... There is rail (britomart), motorways that go in all directions and what about water taxi's and stuff?? that would help get rid of a heap of traffic... Auckland is surrounded by water... leave your car somewhere and jump on a water taxi to get there? and the same to get back... no traffic on the water?!
Parking etc around eden park is shocking as it is... and when there is a game on there... ALL the suburbs surrounding get hammered with the traffic. they cant exactly widen all those rd's etc??!
The difference Dover, is that rugby is a minority sport everywhere but here. Even with our fixation on it, we've only won the 'World' cup once. We even got dicked by the FRENCH for God's sake.
It's almost as bad as the American football 'World' championship.
It's a lot of our dosh just for a championship no-one cares about.
Speed doesn't kill people.
Stupidity kills people.
Here's an idea.
Hold it in the crater of Mt Eden! A natural "bowl" for an event (plenty of seating space) and when you get pissed at the game, the walk home is all down hill!
Taxpayers dollars wasted = 0.
Useable for other events = Yes!
Keeps the greenies happy = (why do I feel like having a Tui beer right now?)
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