Of course they lack balls.... they're all womenOriginally Posted by The_Dover
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Of course they lack balls.... they're all women
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Please at least look at the posts from the time/date of the article...
I posted the Harold article to breathe some life back into this thread due to the nature of the courtcase.
Greg is a licenced gun dealer. He was on the premises of his business.
Please read the charge that has been laid before the court, as it has nothing to do with "licence" issues.
Greg has elected trial by jury, which is the best option IMHO.
The media is supplying free coverage at the moment, so he is improving his chances rapidly. The ecilop prosecutor will be in for a very humbling time...
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C'mon dude, it's frikkin NEWSPAPER!!
FFS The link between a newspaper story and truth&fact is VERRRRY tenuous at best.
And that goes for the rest of you lot posting newspaper links as a source of 'fact'
Winding up drongos, foil hat wearers and over sensitive KBers for over 14,000 posts...........
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Well Fish, I hadn't read this thread for a while, and I come back and see you've stooped to abuse, telling me to "Fuck Off" and calling Dover and various others "whinging immigrants" and "mental retards".
Not cool at all pal, pretty clearly you have an anger management problem, bravely abusing people from behind your keyboard.
And your logic is all over the place - you accuse me of not having facts, yet I have quoted Goverment sources for every statistic I have presented.
You on the other hand spout self evident truths like ;
"You don't want the public carrying guns because it will result in an upswing in the effects of violent crime"
Well, where is your source for that ?
If the upswing is a few shot criminals and a few unrobbed/burgled/raped/murdered normal citizens then thats a positive outcome, not a negative outcome.
If you can contribute usefully, with good facts and figures then do so.
If all you can manage is calling people names then please go and play in the pointless drivel forum.
David must play fair with the other kids, even the idiots.
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I konw I contributed to this thread somewhile back but i have been following it with great interest.
Apart from biking my other lifetime passion has been shooting in all its various aspects.
I lived through two firearm banns in the UK with the final one taking away my sport permanently.
All these arguements posted here are all so very familiar.
I am naturally biased as I am a shooter but from what i remember here is a brief synopsis of firearms laws in the UK, from which NZ laws originated (I suspect).
In 1920 a law was brought in to restrict the persons able to hold firearms such as handguns, machine guns and rifles. There are records in Hansard (parliamentary report from Westminster) that this was in direct response to the number of revolutions and such that had been happening in Europe. They wanted to be able to take firearms off the "lower classes" and distribute them to the upper classes in case of a rising in the UK.
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH FIREARMS CONTROL BUT MORE WITH POPLUACE CONTROL
In 1935 they brought in another major law that even further limited private ownership of firearms.
1939 The Uk didnt even have enough fiorearms to arm their poplulation in case of a possible incvasion. US has to lend them.
1965 Three police officers shot to death by bank robbers in Shepards Bush. The criminals used pistols so what did the gov do? They restricted shoptgun licences. ???????
1986 Michael Ryan goes nuts. Result they ban semi auto rifles and pump action rifles (never been used in and crime ever in the UK). This was just after they sold off all their old SLR's to the civilian shooters.
1996. Dunblane. Complete ban on pistols. Even those for Olympic sports.
I'm not very good at writing things down but from what I remeber and have learnt is that there is no such thing as firearms control. It is all about controlling the population of a country by denying them the means of defending themselves as a last resort. Germany in the 1930's totally banned firearms of any sort except for members of the Nazi party. Look what happened there.
Every person, in my opinion, has the right to defend their family and themselves. With the use of leathal force in the needs demand that. They shouldnt be then dumped upon by those who decide what is best for us.
Italy has recently abolished all firearms laws and made it legal to use such to defend oneself, ones family and any other person who could be in danger. Why?
Because they found that restrictive laws just do not work.
Greg, in my opinion, acted proprerly, with very good judgement and a lot of bravery.
For those of you who object to firearms I respect your decision but please try and see past the emotive issues. Guns dont kill. People kill. In fact we are one of the few animals that relish in killing our own species. If we didnt why is our history told by the wars we have fought?
I ramble here so I will now cut short this diatribe.
Flame me, disagree with me, or agree with me but please leave emotions out of it.
I have personally seen what happens whenpeople get too emotive and violence breaks out. It is not nice, it is not pretty and I dont ever want to see it again.
Dai (my 2 cents worth)
e mare libertas
No, I just called Dover that. I mean, have you met the guy?
Yes, I'm very very angry. I abuse people in real life too, though. Why, only last night, I leaned in through the window of a Corolla that turned in front of me and screamed abuse at the driver. It was awesome.
But not identified your source for verification.
In your own words, it's a self-evident truth. I don't need to prove common sense via statistics. Would you insist on a double-blind study to determine whether people hit in the head by a baseball bat suffer greater harm than people hit with a banana cream pie?
Mmmm. Banana cream pie...
Have you seen through my needling and realised that we actually share the same viewpoint on this issue?
Now go away, or I shall taunt you a second time-a.
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- mikey
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You forgot the alderberries...
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...elderberries...
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vicious little fruits, especially when fermented. I wouldnt want to go against an angry wild fermented elderberry.
e mare libertas
Oh, just bloody edit it, dude. Better than spamming up a quality thread with one-liners.
kiwibiker is full of love, an disrespect.
- mikey
e mare libertas
... but what about pointy sticks?
kiwibiker is full of love, an disrespect.
- mikey
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Careful here. its only a hop step and jump from pointy sticks to firearms.
Then we would be back on topic.
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OK so yer daddy made you play with his pee pee and now you're all emotionally challenged. Get over it and grow out of screaming at girls in Toyotas. I'll never understand the decision to put mental patients back in the community...
David must play fair with the other kids, even the idiots.
e mare libertas
That was a silly post. Come on. You have to insult with relevance and, preferably, wit. "No, you're a poopoo-head" and equivalents are unworthy of airtime.
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