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    Demerits for overtaking infringement? - cut my losses?

    Well, apparently this morning I got a visit in absentia from Baycorp, which I then determined was a contracted serving of a suspension notice.

    I was sitting on 75 points, but this is where it gets curious: I was issued an infringement a few months back for an incident even longer ago (my accident on the Wellington motorway), the infringement was for 'Unsafe passing maneuver' and $150. Great. I thought that was it, that being an instant fine type-thing.

    I paid it, but in the time it took for them to get it, they sent a reminder notice, which also listed on the notice a 35 demerit point penalty. This makes no sense at all. I ignored it, but this has now caught up to me.

    How can these demerits be seemingly tacked on at a later date? The road code lists 'Passing or attempting to pass where no passing lines are marked' as a 35-demerit offense, but I was doing nothing of the sort.

    I'm going to ring LTSA, but this is FUBAR, I'd appreciate any help.

    On a related note, would it be worth it to just let it slide and let them take my license? It would mean no more demerits, and I do not intend to get a new bike until next summer. On the other hand, it's not a great thing to have on your driving record.
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    I cannot find your offence on LTSA site.

    Were there 'No Passing Lines"? If not then you seem to have a case to question.

    Problem is that Officer is not obliged to tell you about the points. The ticket only shows points for speeding.

    I got done for 'No Passing Lines' and guy told me "No Points".

    Possible that Wellington process dept. may have misinterpreted the cops notice. My ticket said something different to the Notice I got.

    I am sure one of the cops on this site can give you some advice.

    I would not worry about having a 3 monther on your records. Hardly a major crime and in my case I had been conviction free for 25 years and it is just one of those things eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grahameeboy View Post
    I would not worry about having a 3 monther on your records. Hardly a major crime and in my case I had been conviction free for 25 years and it is just one of those things eh?
    So it would have little effect on insurance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamezo View Post
    The road code lists 'Passing or attempting to pass where no passing lines are marked' as a 35-demerit offense, but I was doing nothing of the sort.
    Going by this there are a lot of back roads in NZ you are not allowed to pass then...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sAsLEX View Post
    So it would have little effect on insurance?
    No it bumped my excess up....despite having no claims in 9 years which is arse about face cause normally the premium is hiked up.........but on the bright side I only pay if I have an accident so no complaints.

    Anyway, I am not bothered....not a major in lifes schemes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NighthawkNZ View Post
    Going by this there are a lot of back roads in NZ you are not allowed to pass then...
    I think you read it wrong like i did initially.

    It says to pass where there are "no passing lines" ie yellow lines.

    not to pass where there are not passing lanes marked........


    But it is legal to pass on yellow lines so the charge is flawed it should read "crossed the yellow lines"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grahameeboy View Post
    No it bumped my excess up....despite having no claims in 9 years which is arse about face cause normally the premium is hiked up.........but on the bright side I only pay if I have an accident so no complaints.

    Anyway, I am not bothered....not a major in lifes schemes.
    But your old..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by sAsLEX View Post
    I think you read it wrong like i did initially.

    It says to pass where there are "no passing lines" ie yellow lines.

    not to pass where there are not passing lanes marked........


    But it is legal to pass on yellow lines so the charge is flawed it should read "crossed the yellow lines"
    Partly flawed cause I suspect Law was intended to apply to cages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grahameeboy View Post
    Partly flawed cause I suspect Law was intended to apply to cages.
    A cage can still pass on yellow lines, I do it all the time, if the "passee" realises they are a slow arse and pull in to the shoulder....

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    Quote Originally Posted by sAsLEX View Post
    I think you read it wrong like i did initially.

    It says to pass where there are "no passing lines" ie yellow lines.

    not to pass where there are not passing lanes marked........


    But it is legal to pass on yellow lines so the charge is flawed it should read "crossed the yellow lines"
    doh yup i did read wrong my bad...


    me put 2 and 2 together now

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    Quote Originally Posted by sAsLEX View Post
    But your old..........
    Age is only a number Sir Alex...............if you can do 2,000m on a rower in 7.11 mins I will lend you my SV for the day..............take that you undersized napper.............

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    Quote Originally Posted by sAsLEX View Post
    A cage can still pass on yellow lines, I do it all the time, if the "passee" realises they are a slow arse and pull in to the shoulder....
    Yep....If?............

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grahameeboy View Post
    Age is only a number Sir Alex...............if you can do 2,000m on a rower in 7.11 seconds I will lend you my SV for the day..............take that you undersized napper.............
    sounds like you're reading the trip computer wrong, 2km in 7 seconds is insanely quick you'd have to be going over 1000km/h, 200m in 7 secs is a little more realistic
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamgee View Post
    sounds like you're reading the trip computer wrong, 2km in 7 seconds is insanely quick you'd have to be going over 1000km/h, 200m in 7 secs is a little more realistic
    Just edited....mins darling, mins...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grahameeboy View Post
    Just edited....mins darling, mins...
    yeah that would work too
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