Graeme William Burton in custody

[doc]

You're onto me.

However, I'm not completely thoughtless. I actually really appreciate little people like yourself working hard and paying tax so I don't have to.

Keep up the good work chum.

So you got the GST off that european thingy you got a while ago ?

[Finn]

So you got the GST off that european thingy you got a while ago ?

You mean the courier vehicle? Add depreciation and running costs too.

[Swoop]

And why did they only have their pistols and not the bushmasters they had in the car?

Strange. Some months ago I was saying that the pistol is the firearm that the average copper would have with them and need to use to it's fullest capability...
Here we have the evidence.

Report said the were general duties, how often do they get to "play" with weapons? Not often is my guess.

Once a year "recertification" shoots.

But Burton was 25 or so METRES away

Slightly further away than the standard 3-5 metres that is commonly used in police training.

WE use shotguns for close in work, pistol grip ones though....

Rem 870's with the top folding stocks. Perfect for boarding at sea.

Maybe they need shorter carbine weapons, (maybe wrong use of term there) like the tankies Styr's with the short barrel

You guys have some of those available to you. The forward grip is fixed in place and cannot be folded up alongside the barrel though.

And if you don't train or use guns a lot, a pump action shotgun would be a better choice than a handgun.

Shotguns are pretty indescriminate with their shot spread at the best of times. Having people with little training allowed to use these in potentially built-up areas will endanger bystanders.

Whereas I would argue that a "civilised" society deserves a justice system, rather than a revenge system,

That would be wonderful. There seems to be a lack of justice for the victims of crime in this country.

4. (Over)Expenditure on new prisons is a significant issue for this Government. Bumping a few more prisoners out on parole is unlikely to have any material effect on this whatsoever.

Not including heating, televisions, videos, etc, etc, might save some $$$'s.

Matt and Bruce Grant did this sort of experiment about 45+ years ago using a large box of gravel hanging like a pendulum.

The official medium for ballistics testing during the earlier phase of last century, was pig. (No sarcasm intended here to any of our officers). It replicated the human being and the effects almost exactly. Ballistic gelatin is a more consistant medium though, and luckily is bone free.

[doc]

The official medium for ballistics testing during the earlier phase of last century, was pig. (No sarcasm intended here to any of our officers). It replicated the human being and the effects almost exactly. Ballistic gelatin is a more consistant medium though, and luckily is bone free.

Its also good to learn how to suture. Doesn't stop the shakes when you first get to do it on someone first time tho. But that was in the days before "patients rights" if they only knew

[doc]

You mean the courier vehicle? Add depreciation and running costs too.

Go on rub it in

[Swoop]

Its also good to learn how to suture. Doesn't stop the shakes when you first get to do it on someone first time tho. But that was in the days before "patients rights" if they only knew

Fabulous training grounds... The only camoflage needed is a white coat.

[doc]

You mean the courier vehicle? Add depreciation and running costs too.

Second attempt. What about the speeding infringemnets ? beat that one!!!

[Ixion]

Well, if your pocket is deep enough , you can avoid the demerits by regoing the vehicle to a company and claiming that you cannot determine who was driving. (assumes of course that you didn't get stopped at the time) .

[Finn]

Second attempt. What about the speeding infringemnets ? beat that one!!!

Radar detector. Besides, I don't speed.

[doc]

Radar detector. Besides, I don't speed.

How did you claim the radar detecter ? Anyway I still think your mother dresses you funny.

[Scouse]

Whereas I would argue that a "civilised" society deserves a justice system, rather than a revenge system, and that state-sanctioned murder has no place in restorative justice.

How does that dead Quad biker get his restorative justice then..?

[doc]

How does that dead Quad biker get his restorative justice then..?

Wake up man haven't you seen that justice thingy wearing a blindfold ?

[Hitcher]

How does that dead Quad biker get his restorative justice then..?

He can't. He's dead. I can't speak for his family, but I think that their anger directed at the Parole Board is misguided and will not give them their son back. There is only one person to blame here, and he will soon have his day in Court.

[sAsLEX]

There is only one person to blame here, and he will soon have his day in Court.

And not long after he will be back on the street.

[Ixion]

Manifestly, the Parole Board were collectively incompetant. So do you consider that the family of the dead man (who suffer for the Board's dereliction) , and society (who also suffer) should simply say "Oh dear , what a pity, never mind , let's just carry on" ?

Why should the Board not be held accountable for its actions? If a mechanic is incompetant and assembles your car wrongly, so that you crash and kill someone, the mechanic can be found guilty of manslaughter (it has happened). Why should not the Board members be thus charged? Would you say that the family of the man killed as a result of that mechanics negligence had no right to be angry at him?