Licence gone :-(

**Grahameeboy** · 17th January 2007, 18:31

Originally Posted by justsomeguy

$55 actually - and cops don't like people who've just lost their license and are driving around without one. You don't need to be guilty, you just need to be unlucky and get the wrong cop on the wrong day.

And 6 months and no specials.

**Grahameeboy** · 17th January 2007, 18:38

Originally Posted by justsomeguy

Don't know the full story.... but if you shouldn't have had that other one and they found out while you were using it......... you may be spending some time with criminal lawyers, maybe even some criminals depending on how bad things get.

Well I only used it after my ban for about a week waiting for licence back and I was given a 2nd licence with no explanation about 8 years ago...I thought I had lost one and found it when sorting out a draw...........in fact the letter I got from LTSA just says you can drive once your ban is lifted and you will receive your licence back within a few days, nothing having to wait before you can drive.

Anyway a bit tough if you serve your time and have to wait 4 days for the licence.

**justsomeguy** · 17th January 2007, 18:41

Originally Posted by Grahameeboy

Well I only used it after my ban for about a week waiting for licence back and I was given a 2nd licence with no explanation about 8 years ago...I thought I had lost one and found it when sorting out a draw...........in fact the letter I got from LTSA just says you can drive once your ban is lifted and you will receive your licence back within a few days, nothing having to wait before you can drive.

Anyway a bit tough if you serve your time and have to wait 4 days for the licence.

Yes, the letter doesn't say anything about having to wait, so I phoned their office and spoke to someone who didn't really know...... so went to the VTNZ/LTSA office in Botany Downs who said I'd better be safe and get the paper license.

I guess you should be ok, but I didn't want to risk another 6 months plus dramas.

**Grahameeboy** · 17th January 2007, 18:44

Originally Posted by justsomeguy

Yes, the letter doesn't say anything about having to wait, so I phoned their office and spoke to someone who didn't really know...... so went to the VTNZ/LTSA office in Botany Downs who said I'd better be safe and get the paper license.

I guess you should be ok, but I didn't want to risk another 6 months plus dramas.

I suspect if stopped you are not driving whilst disqualified but just do not hold a licence / produce it.....

**wilber** · 17th January 2007, 18:49

Guy at work had same happen to him ,went for day licence judge gave so many restrictions hardly made spending a 1000 bucks worth while ,wasnt alloyed to drive to or from home ,logbook and limit on kms from town.

**civil** · 17th January 2007, 20:14

Licence? The trick is not to give them reason to stop you in the first place, that way you dont need a licence. You know my bike still works, even when I dont have my licence!!!!

To pull you over they need probable cause

. Without probable cause then they have no right to restrict your freedom of movement

.
The reason you were stopped was not to radomly check your licence, but because they had cause to suspect that your licence was suspended

.

It is like this; No problem with not feeding the parking meter

, ...... until you get caught

. Likewise, no problem driving without a licence

, ...... until you get caught

.

So do not give them probable cause to stop you, and then you wont need a licence. If you need to know how to not give them reason for probable cause, then most likely you will not be able to achive this anyway, in which case dont try it.

**ArcherWC** · 17th January 2007, 20:15

Originally Posted by Grahameeboy

Like I said need help with forms?

Yes please, help would be appreciated

**pinkhoggirl** · 17th January 2007, 20:41

Originally Posted by Speedie

Not sure if you have a slightly wrong message from your lawyer, or if I am reading you wrong. The initial 28 day roadside suspension is not negotiable, there are no exceptions. The work licence can be available rather quickly once that period is over however.

Not sure - lawyers being lawyers and all...but I hope like hell your wrong (I'm not doubting you - just HOPING!). What the guy told me is that if I can prove that I would lose my job without the license, they will grant a day license and it will take about a week. Didn't mention a stand down. But haven't had to pursue it yet - long story best not told online.

**COP_B8** · 17th January 2007, 21:33

The 28 day stand down applies to the more serious reasons for loss of license such as drink driving, driving whilst disqualified, dangerous driving etc.... for losing your license only due to demerit points you do not need to wait 28 days.

In terms of the paperwork you can get the form yourself and present that with all the supporting documentation yourself to save the lawyers feesWhen assessing weither to grant you a work license they look predominently atweither you will suffer serious hardship without your license, thus you will need to prove it, affadavit 's(sp?) from employers etc, bank statements etc..... (hide any term deposits etc...)

If they grant a work license it may be limited to particular times, vehicles or routes you can travel as well as log books may need to be filled in.

If all else fails talk to a lawyer but expect to pay between $1,000.00 or $1,500.00

Good Luck!

**Lucy** · 17th January 2007, 22:33

Originally Posted by ArcherWC

is there any chance of getting a temp licence before the 28 days, as im self employed and require transport to service my clients

Oh no, another delay in the next Space shuttle launch then I guess.....

**scumdog** · 17th January 2007, 23:07

Originally Posted by onearmedbandit

Oh, thanks.

Idiot down here had 245 demerits before he was tracked down.......

**onearmedbandit** · 17th January 2007, 23:11

Right, so surely some of those demerit points wre racked up when he was driving. Wouldn't the info come back to you when you check his licence on the side of the road?

**scumdog** · 17th January 2007, 23:12

Originally Posted by civil

Licence? The trick is not to give them reason to stop you in the first place, that way you dont need a licence. You know my bike still works, even when I dont have my licence!!!!

To pull you over they need probable cause

. Without probable cause then they have no right to restrict your freedom of movement

Mwahahahah!! "Probable cause"? What country do you think you're in?

It's "Anywhere-anytime" baby.

Pick up heaps of disqualified/suspended/forbidden driver just by doing random stops

Your post WAS a a piss-take, right???