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Thread: Why can't I use a tube in a tubeless?

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    Why can't I use a tube in a tubeless?

    As many Welly riders know, we had a puncture on a borrowed Bandit yesterday. There's a cut in the tyre aligned with the direction of rotation. The tyre is new (maybe 3,000km old) and everyone is saying that it has to be replaced .... at $290! Surely this is bollocks. In a car and on the FXR all that happens is you stuff a tube in it.

    Clearly I'm missing something

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    Depends on the tyre damage, you mention a cut, so how much has been cut? If the tyre belting (the structural part under the tread) has been cut then its stuffed. If its a simple hole (like a nail penetration) then thats usually repairable or "tubeable". Show it to a proffesional and believe them.

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    Thanks Crisis, makes sense, it's just sooo different to what you would do with a car road tyre.

    Perhaps I will admit to being just a tad wary of the shop "experts" as they have a vested interest in selling me a new tyre as opposed to just fixng a puncture. That's why I came to this forum, for sensible un-biased advice - like yours

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    some tyre places can add more rubber to patch the hole, vulcanising(sp?) i think its called.

    I have a 3 cm gash in my raod tyre and tyre place say they can't fix it because they only put in those little tubes (like the ones that you use to put air in your tyre) but i was recommended to see another tyre place because they do vucanising(sp?) might want to give that a shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grub View Post
    Perhaps I will admit to being just a tad wary of the shop "experts" as they have a vested interest in selling me a new tyre as opposed to just fixng a puncture.
    Depends on the shop.
    But generally, if the carcase is damaged (which it would be if the cut's right through), then the tyre is TED. If not, then an internal patch would render the tyre usable again.
    ... and that's what I think.

    Or summat.


    Or maybe not...

    Dunno really....


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    It all hinges on whether it would get a warrant of fitness or not. Check out the LTNZ Vehicle Inspection Requirements Manual stuff here http://www.landtransport.govt.nz/pub...ycles-v2-3.pdf which while this is listed as motorcycle stuff seems to have a lot of car stuff there all the same.

    Tyres - they don't like cuts especially if down to the cords.
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    Same rules apply to car and bike tyres,putting a tube in if there are cut cords is a no go.The bike shops are not conning you into buying a tyre....they are just not supplying you with a reason to sue them for doing a shoddy repair.
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    It's your LIFE man, is it really worth haggling over the price of a new tyre?

    Any good cut makes keeping the tyre a decidedly dodgy, even on a smaller bike let alone a bigger one.
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    Hey,can I have a cheap speeding ticket? The bastards up here charge way too much!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Motu View Post
    Hey,can I have a cheap speeding ticket? The bastards up here charge way too much!
    Shit yes! Competition in the traffic policing area would really bring the price down!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grub View Post
    Thanks Crisis, makes sense, it's just sooo different to what you would do with a car road tyre.
    It's no different at all,putting a tube in it adds no structural strength if the carcass is damaged and no decent tyre shop will do it
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    It's your LIFE man, is it really worth haggling over the price of a new tyre?

    Any good cut makes keeping the tyre a decidedly dodgy, even on a smaller bike let alone a bigger one.
    its not his life as its someone elses bike and he won't ride it again, so that makes everything OK. ok?

    maybe talk to your mate and see if they want to go halves in it as it could've happened to anyone, it's not like you did somthing stupid.
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    Thanx all for your input. I asked the stupid question because I'm stupid and I haven't ridden a bike in a verry long time AND I've never ever had a puncture AND and, I've never had to replace a car tyre because of a puncture - even on my rally car.

    So thanks again, I understand now that bike tyres are a little more delicate and that it seems 90% of the time, you just have to bite the bullet and buy the damn tyre. Which wouldn't be so bad if it was *my* tyre!

    There are things to be enormously thankful fo though ... my darling Nasty wasn't riding it :whew:

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    Quote Originally Posted by KLOWN View Post
    its not his life as its someone elses bike and he won't ride it again, so that makes everything OK. ok?

    maybe talk to your mate and see if they want to go halves in it as it could've happened to anyone, it's not like you did somthing stupid.
    Its the life of a girlfriend on mine who is on her honeymoon .. its getting picked up by the shop and they will tell us what to do .. and as you guys have said .. do what they say and don't question ... I am more than happy to pay and make sure no matter who rides they are safe ... cos that is what counts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nasty View Post
    Its the life of a girlfriend on mine who is on her honeymoon .. its getting picked up by the shop and they will tell us what to do .. and as you guys have said .. do what they say and don't question ... I am more than happy to pay and make sure no matter who rides they are safe ... cos that is what counts
    theres always more girlfriends out there. If you have been living with her for longer than two years you can get half of her stuff, or ALL of her stuff if you fix the tyre dodgey and let her ride. cheaper than the pain shes gonna put you through in the future

    edit; oh girl friend not girlfriend. in that case just tell her it was FINE when you left it
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