Calvin & Hobbes - a very sad cartoon

**Ixion** · 23rd February 2007, 21:37

Originally Posted by scumdog

In my experience there seems to be a predominance of white trash 'families' who have their kids on Ritalin - but often it doesn't get to the kids.

I expect to be black flagged by the moderators for that but don't give a shit 'cos it's true.

And I've has a Tequila or two..

Why? Tis fair comment, based on personal experience.

Though, if it slows people down and makes them quiet and industrious, why would there be an illicit market? Doesn't sound the sort of high y'r typical junkie would be looking for.

**scumdog** · 23rd February 2007, 21:42

Originally Posted by Ixion

Why? Tis fair comment, based on personal experience.

Though, if it slows people down and makes them quiet and industrious, why would there be an illicit market? Doesn't sound the sort of high y'r typical junkie would be looking for.

Cos ya get two (at least) types of druggie.

Those that want to get wasted and mellow-out, be calm and have things go slow.

And those that want to get wasted in a super-hyper frantic way. ('P'?)

The first lot use Ritalin and other 'slow-me-down' crap.

**Ixion** · 23rd February 2007, 21:50

Hm.

Very strange creatures you mortals.

Would not a bottle of $FAVOURITE_BOOZE be cheaper?

**pixc** · 24th February 2007, 00:43

OK, ritalin has its place. I struggled for over 2 years and two school expulsions before I finally decided to give it a go. My son is intelligant, very active and I believe he is 'gifted'. His talent is that he can muck around in class, bother his class mates, ignore his teacher yet he can still pass his tests (if applied). His brain soaks it all in at once and it sinks in. Unfortunately is soaks in the things that other people can tune out to (This is were he gets frustrated) If I had the money, Id send him to a school that could cater for his different learning abilities but I dont and I cant. Instead I suppress his 'gift' so that he can 'fit it' with rest. He has a paper run and we live 5 kms out of town UP hill all they way. Its a hard ride for him on his way home but he manages. I give him a less then is prescibed and he has none after school nor on the weekends. He has just enough to get him through school. Its a decision I havent taken likely and it took 2 years for me to make it. Some people genuinely need it. Others dont. Yes I agree its often a 'quick fix' were further investigation should be taken. I have been through several specialist etc, and at $250 per 15 min visitit hasnt been cheap.

I have done my home work, ive spent thousands getting opinions, I havent taken my decision lightly. If its needed its needed. If it works FANTASTIC, if you find something else that works for you GREAT. Just dont give parents and people prescribed ritalin a hard time when it WORKS for THEM!

**Timber020** · 24th February 2007, 08:01

Worked with really rich kids in the states, out of the 12 I had to eat with, 6 were on ritalin. One kid was on a dose strong enough (and I quote the nurse) "it would blow the eyeballs out of an elephant"

You shouldnt take them if your an adult, crush em up an snort em.

**Squeak the Rat** · 24th February 2007, 09:49

Ritalin is very similar in makeup to methamphetamine.

Isn't it ironic that we give it to our children.

**Ixion** · 24th February 2007, 10:14

Originally Posted by Squeak the Rat

Ritalin is very similar in makeup to methamphetamine.

Isn't it ironic that we give it to our children.

No, it's not. They are quite different. The molecular structures are shown below

**Pixie** · 24th February 2007, 11:10

Ritalin Song {bjr}

Bart: [singing to the tune of "Popeye, the Sailor Man"]
When I can't stop my fiddlin'
I just takes me Ritalin
I'm poppin' and sailin', man!

http://www.snpp.com/guides/lyrics_list.html

**Pixie** · 24th February 2007, 11:13

Originally Posted by WRT

In some instances, yes, I fully agree with you Riffer. I'm really not a favour of medication and I avoid doctors, and shrinks especially, as much as possible

Me Too.
And the voices tell me this lump on my neck will go away soon

**Pixie** · 24th February 2007, 11:28

Originally Posted by Guitana

ADD and ADHD are a reasonably new so called sicknesses I can't recall them being around when I was a young tacker!
This is why I beleive it is a product of a bad dietry imbalance!
The foods our kids today are scoffing by the truckload are full of transfats,food colourings,High sugar content and are over processed! In essence their diets are shit! Society has forsaken good healthy foods for junk as it's easier to give the kids $10 and send them off to school!!
Is little Johnny gonna buy a wholesome apple and banana from the fruitshop
on the way to school??? I think not!! No generally it's a pie and a coke good way to start your day!!!
Everything we buy these days is so overprocessed it takes 10 days for a loaf of bread to go mouldy!!!
It used to go blue in three days when I was younger!!

I'm glad the sweets I ate every day when I was a kid weren't artificially coloured and weren't made of sugar-tui

**Curious_AJ** · 24th February 2007, 11:29

i love calvin and hobbes, its so true, i was a little calvin when i was younger...

but yeah, people who use ritalin on theri kids should be shot, all the kids need is a different way of learning. pills are never the answer, i personally refuse to take pills (even thoughi SHOULD be taking some... *whistles* for my health) they're evil...
if you want a solution, go natural, best remedies ever!

*rainbow*

**Pixie** · 24th February 2007, 11:33

The best way to deal with these behaviours has always been to stimulate the childs endorphine production.
unfortunately sue Bradford's bill will make that illegal