Bloody cyclists

[YLWDUC]

This is absolutely ridiculous !

The attitude on here of bike riders vs cyclists is exactly the same as cages vs riders. A car driver will think that because they pay for their petrol they have the right to take up the whole lane and not let a motorbike past when lane splitting (which is against the law, technically). Put the driver on a bike, and when we can't crap on about the cages because they'll run us over, just whine about the cyclists.

Yes, some cyclists may ride more than 2 abreast, but those that do are usually the same kinds of people who could don a 1-piece set of leathers and run every red-light at 100km/hr on their busa, just because they could. And while I agree that Darwin will even out the gene pool eventually, Road rage is only going to speed up the process.

(And cyclists don't pay road registration charges for a very good reason. We should in fact pay them to ride their bikes, instead of sitting in their cages congesting our roads.)

[YLWDUC]

Happened to me too.
Bikeling home after school and this lady opens her car door.
My left knuckles hit the end of the door and bent it up so she couldn't shut it.

Ouch. That happened to my brother when he was about 5ft behind me. Did she even care enough to check up on you after?

[Ixion]

I've heard of motorcycles hitting car doors that were irrationally opened . Can't really balme cyclists for splitting, we do it too, they just do it a bit more extreme.

[KLOWN]

This is absolutely ridiculous !

The attitude on here of bike riders vs cyclists is exactly the same as cages vs riders. A car driver will think that because they pay for their petrol they have the right to take up the whole lane and not let a motorbike past when lane splitting (which is against the law, technically). Put the driver on a bike, and when we can't crap on about the cages because they'll run us over, just whine about the cyclists.

Yes, some cyclists may ride more than 2 abreast, but those that do are usually the same kinds of people who could don a 1-piece set of leathers and run every red-light at 100km/hr on their busa, just because they could. And while I agree that Darwin will even out the gene pool eventually, Road rage is only going to speed up the process.

(And cyclists don't pay road registration charges for a very good reason. We should in fact pay them to ride their bikes, instead of sitting in their cages congesting our roads.)

NO! as many posts have said, REGUARDLESS of what vehicle they are in cycle, car, bike its thier inconsiderateness(sp?) and lane splitting is LEGAL, its just an overtaking manouver. ALSO I like many other have ridden cycles and don't have ANY problems with cages cause we aren't dumb fucks that try to take up the whole road.

edit: I don't have a problem with cyclists when I'm on my bike its too easy to over take/get round them its only in a cage when they become a problem.

[YLWDUC]

IXION: exzachary. I know what I'd rather come off at 50km/hr, and it would have a motor on it. At least then I'd have some decent armour on me, instead of cod-piece hugging lycra.

[NordieBoy]

Ouch. That happened to my brother when he was about 5ft behind me. Did she even care enough to check up on you after?

Yep, freaked her out a bit

[forkoil]

NO! as many posts have said, REGUARDLESS of what vehicle they are in cycle, car, bike its thier inconsiderateness(sp?)

One word you DID spell correctly

and lane splitting is LEGAL, its just an overtaking manouver. ALSO I like many other have ridden cycles and don't have ANY problems with cages cause we aren't dumb fucks that try to take up the whole road.

Getting hit by an opening car door could happen to anyone, m'bike or bicycle, to try to say different is plain stupidity.
Taking up more road than two abreast is only done at brief periods when racing, as I've explained at length on this thread earlier if you can be bothered to read, and the reasons and limitations surrounding that also. Its pointless trying to explain this to anyone who is so fixed in their prejudice they wont hear.
The constraints on bicycles are different than m'bikes which in turn are different than cars. Once again to deny this betrays ignorance ("ignore" ance). So why bicycles do different things in traffic or intersections does not translate to other vehicle types. Been thru this, but wasting breath for those who dont choose to hear.....

[KLOWN]

One word you DID spell correctly

Getting hit by an opening car door could happen to anyone, m'bike or bicycle, to try to say different is plain stupidity.
Taking up more road than two abreast is only done at brief periods when racing, as I've explained at length on this thread earlier if you can be bothered to read, and the reasons and limitations surrounding that also. Its pointless trying to explain this to anyone who is so fixed in their prejudice they wont hear.
The constraints on bicycles are different than m'bikes which in turn are different than cars. Once again to deny this betrays ignorance ("ignore" ance). So why bicycles do different things in traffic or intersections does not translate to other vehicle types. Been thru this, but wasting breath for those who dont choose to hear.....

All i hear is blah blah blah.
now a rebuttle

No one said getting hit by a car door only happens to cyclists, don't know where you got that idea from.
secondly your not wasting your breath, your typing
thirdly I have read all your posts, I just disagree
the MOST important thing is this ...

only cyclists that are racing go more than two abreast..... WHAT A LOAD OF SHIT !!!! have you been in my car/ on my bike EVERYTIME I have come across cyclists on the road riding more than two abreast?? Can you honestly tell me that EVERY cyclist that is riding two abreast, or more, is racing pfft.

This MAY be YOUR policy but the cyclists I meet aren't you (although they may have been) so you can't tell me/everybody who has posted that this is the case ALWAYS thats just shit.

Just because I don't agree with you dosen't mean im being ignoreant.

[Wolf]

Taking up more road than two abreast is only done at brief periods when racing,

So the bunch I encountered (without a pace car or adequate warnings) were "racing". Funnily enough, that is illegal on open roads - "I've explained at length on this thread earlier if you can be bothered to read" (as have others.)
So is crossing the centre line - and they were doing that, too.

I suppose you might claim the three dickheaded college kids weaving three-abreast the wrong way along a one-way street (in the path of a fucking-great Urban Assault Vehicle) were also "racing" - after all, that is the "only" time cyclists travel more than two-abreast.

To reiterate: I have, from time to time, encountered organised bicycle races with pace cars, marshalls and extra Pepperoni and have no problem with that - it's pretty hard to miss all the warnings. And every year, the road outside where we used to live was closed for a car rally - only on one year were some of them inconsiderate enough to block our driveway and a quiet word to the Marshalls sorted that out pretty quickly - again, not a problem. Every year, Paeroa closes off some of its streets for a day of motorcycle racing and the cagers don't seem to have much of a problem with it. Every year, the roads between Cambridge and Hamilton are blocked off for the Toy Run - and cagers actually wave out and cheer.

Legitimate, properly organised races or events are not the issue, here.

Cyclists illegally racing on open roads, however, will be regarded by me like any other illegal racers - be they on motorbikes or in cars, SUVs or trucks: with contempt for their arrogance and stupidity.

[James Deuce]

when lane splitting (which is against the law, technically).

No it isn't, as Klown said. Do a search and the legal method for lanesplitting will be revealed.

Also filtering to the front of a stationary queue at the lights is also completely legal. You are allowed to pass parked cars. That applies to cyclists too.

[Ixion]

Well, yes, both true. But the problem is that the legal method of lanesplitting, in real life, is very seldom entirely practical, and almost always slips over into the not-quite-legal method of lanesplitting. Unless you have much wider lanes down south.

(Caution. Children, do not try this at home. Lane splitting is dangerous, and of doubtful legality.Nana does not approve of it and does not do it, except for medical , or other, reasons.)

[James Deuce]

Yes, some cyclists may ride more than 2 abreast, but those that do are usually the same kinds of people who could don a 1-piece set of leathers and run every red-light at 100km/hr on their busa, just because they could. And while I agree that Darwin will even out the gene pool eventually, Road rage is only going to speed up the process.

It's a constant issue along SH2 in the Hutt, across tthe Akatarawas and the Paekak hill, and through the Mangaroa Plateau and Whiteman's Valley. Great hordes of cyclists, no warning, occupying an entire lane, or on the narrower roads the entire road. Someone will get killed. The powered vehicle driver will probably be prosecuted, irrespective of fault.

It is no fun to run into a Psychlopath of 30 or more on a blind corner, especially when they all seem to be a bunch of angry gesturers.

[Wolf]

No it isn't, as Klown said. Do a search and the legal method for lanesplitting will be revealed.

Also filtering to the front of a stationary queue at the lights is also completely legal. You are allowed to pass parked cars. That applies to cyclists too.

And I'll bet the legal method does not involve doing it at "warp speed", no matter what you're on.

[James Deuce]

Most of the other splitters down here always laugh at my efforts, because I try to stay in the correct lane, indicate during the process and never go more than 20 km/hr above the traffic flow, pulling back into a lane when the speed rises above 60 km/hr. I get overtaken by cyclists. I move out of the way of faster splitters.

I'm wussy! But I get to work 30 mins earlier than I would in a car, and 2 hours earlier than if I rode a pushy.

[Ixion]

Well, I am about your mark as far as speed goes - start sizing up the gap when things drop to 30kph, look for a gap to get back into lane when it gets above 50kph.

But i can seldom manage to keep to the left of the white lane. Dorkland drivers seem to insist on hugging the right hand side of their lanes - lots of room on the left, bugger all on the right. Very annoying. I wish someone would Have A Word with them