Not guilty (Police sex case verdict, 1 March)

[mikey]

You are right, In normal circumstances charges would not have been made as it is one Complainant's word against the Defendant with no witnesses either independant or known to either the defendant or complainant.

bull shit.
say i come steal your tv and ride off on your bike after raping your wife, brewing up crack in your kitchen and then burning your house down, and any other crime i commit where its only one persons evidence agasint anothers, would charges be laid?
THINK SO!
TYPICAL EH. COPS STICKING UP FOR COPS.
YOUR STICKING UP FOR A RAPIST? YOU SICK MAN

[spudchucka]

We can rest easy then, Clint can have his job back and everyone will be happy?

They will be looking very hard for reasons to not allow him back.

It seems that the plot will continue to thicken and there will be plenty of ammo for the brass to use against him. Still, they won't be able to sack him so the likely outcome will be the big $$$$ golden handshake.

[terbang]

Funny how threads can vary on virtually the same subject. Over on another thread about this I am getting hammered for even suggesting that Rickard may be a bit dodgey. 'Jury found him innocent, so he must be so go away because your view is different to mine' seems to be the order there and yet here the tone is different and people are starting to question Mr Rickards background.

[Ixion]

Or appoint him head of the Special Task Force to tackle Paper Clip Theft nationally (Operation Clippy.) Awful lot of those things get stolen. Or send him on a fact finding mission to study multi cultural policing determinants. In Afganistan. Very multicultural, them.

[spudchucka]

bull shit.
say i come steal your TV and ride off on your bike after raping your wife, brewing up crack in your kitchen and then burning your house down, and any other crime I commit where its only one persons evidence against another's, would charges be laid?

For you to be implicated in that situation there would have to be a witness or some compelling physical or forensic evidence, so I'm assuming that in your imaginary world you didn't burn the house down with the missus still in there and she lived to tell the tale.

Consequently, if she was a good complainant and didn't wait 20 + years to come forward and tell her tale then there would be a bloody good chance that there would be some rather compelling evidence left behind within dear old Mrs Dynamytus, (your smelly spoof or slimy skin scrapings from under her finger nails etc).

Either way, you aren't going to be charged in such circumstances without a reasonable level of evidence against you. It would be too easy if we could just charge you whenever we felt like it, "Got any suspects for this one boys"? , "No"?, "Fuck it, lets just charge young Mikey again"!

[spudchucka]

Or appoint him head of the Special Task Force to tackle Paper Clip Theft nationally (Operation Clippy.) Awful lot of those things get stolen. Or send him on a fact finding mission to study multi cultural policing determinants. In Afganistan. Very multicultural, them.

They would have to pay him shit loads of allowances if they sent him to Afganistan, not a good idea.

[Ixion]

They would have to pay him shit loads of allowances if they sent him to Afganistan, not a good idea.

But only for a short time, if the mission brief was well thought out

[Manxman]

Three words Golden Hand Shake!!!!!!!!

...on health grounds...my mortgage is on it.

[Ixion]

"Fuck it, lets just charge young Mikey again"!

And the problem with this is ... ?

[spudchucka]

And the problem with this is ... ?

You'd better ask Mikey!

[Ixion]

I'm sure Mikey would be deeply honoured to be appointed National Scapegoat. And just think of the clearance rates!

[candor]

Women who support husband rapists with lies and perjury are lower than the rapists. I guarantee you that the BS manufactured by the defense in that latest trial will have hurt the victim more than the bottle or whatever it was.

Its disgusting how the media keeps repeating Rickards so called 'admission' that he had consensual sex with Nicholls as if it is fact. They have no conscience - how do they think that feels to the victim who failed to ge justice - they should shut up instead of repeating defense council lies. That is called revictimisation.

It is illogical and quantum conclusion jumping to say that because the latest victim had said she gave it all she had for Louise Nicholas's sake that she must be some kind of vigilante and therefore lying about her own experience.

Why can her resolve to fight for justice not be strengthened by knowing that someone else was harmed to an even greater extent than she was. And it is a LOT of stress and pressure being on the stand so I 'get her' re giving it heaps - tha just means doing your best in a literal bloodsport (tho it may all look calm as).

Unless you were there you don't know what happened - I don't mean in the courtroom as a juror either - they know SHIT and have a cheek to even pretend they do and sit in judgment.

Women have about 1% chance of winning any trial where it is mans word versus womans word. As there is a proven bias for people to believe men more.

Anyone who uses the court system to pursue a rapist unless they have a blue chip eyewitness like say the Pope or carry a vcr 25/7 to leave running in case they get raped is wasting her time. Its best just to get a gun and shoot the miscreant.

I joke not - been there and done that. When I was a little Uni student a gang member kidnapped me etc etc (I was lucky to escape with my life) and the trial which was full of BS took 3 days.

People need to understand that trials and the contet are theatre nothing more. Witnesses ie victims are not permitted to tell the full story (censored maximally).

Naturally the psycho freak got 'acquitted' which does not mean they are innocent. Turned out Police sabotaged their own (my) case due to the freak turning narc during an undercover drug operation called "operation 12".

Here is the kinds of things that happen when cops turn dirty.

Policeman McKay as prosecution witness "yes I recieved a ph call from the complainant - initially I did not believe her!!!!!!"

What - are you a moron cop or on the rapists side here or what not believing a normal average uni student who you don't know from a bar of soap. Turs outthis was nothing to do with belief or disbelief but a conniving and successful move to undermine.

WTF!!!!!!! Later when I spoke to the jury (I visited most of them to tape their evidence of what happened as the trial judge would not release the notes for nearly 10 years - to obstruct my bringing a perjury charge privately as the notes were required evidence), some said this dirty cop statement had killed it for them.
They said they felt he must know something bad about me to have said that!

Said by the Police Dr (prolly at the crooked cops request "the (rapist) asked for anti VD drugs" - untrue it was me!

Yes Dr Vause is a very unethical man and I hope he rots in hell.

Said by the judge "I would ask the jury to disregard this defendents gang membership and to conside him as if he was a rotary club member".

2 or 3 years later the freak offeded again but not in the same crooked Police district - so he managed to finally get convicted.

Should rape 2(that I know of but probably rape 200 considering how few people report it) have REALLY happened.

No - but you have Policeman Colin MCKay (the sabotaging witness) and the dead bastard Judge Heron and 12 completely misinformed jurors to blame for the fact that gang member was still on the loose.

My reward for testifying was the cops telling me that it is not good to take on such a big bad criminal gang and I might be best to quit uni and immigrate to Australia.

Unless you have experienced a rape trial you can not know how the lies told in a sick justice system that has NO interest in getting to truth or Justice can burn themselves into your mind forever.

I guarantee you that if I'd got my offender that got away in a marae setting or a restorative justice type setting the truth would have come out.

The Westminster system sux and I refuse to go on juries because I know it is wrong toparticipate and does more harm than good. I cite religious grounds though really its health reasons. I feel sick if I go near courtrooms or see those pompous control freaks in wigs.

People interested in sex crimes often have a strong view that you should do one of 2 things if victimised. Most I know will adviise women to stay well away from the Court system as Justice is not available most occasions.

Others believe the court systen should be persevered with. I think they are fools. I would never even advise use of Police and Justice systems where a sex crime is concerned.

I only wish those who did the courtroom damage made a better job of it and razed that Guantanamo type place to the ground.

Ellie is right. These 3 piggies won't change their spots. I only wonder if future victims will be in intrafamilial since cunning deviates will take care not to mess with someone who just could blow the whistle.

Dynamy Tuss - you said this whole thing will give people more reason to criticise Police. Actually re the latest case I'll give all kudos to thosre involved for doing their best. If Rickards says they went to unusual lengths to nail him who am I to disbelieve that.

Good on them - it would not have been easy to go to great lengths considering police loyalty to each other and all that. Sounds to me like they may have bugged stupid Mrs Rickards phone and caught her out coaching the cousin.

Women are the most dangerous witnesses to have supporting a rapist as everyone thinks women wouldn't defend rapists. People forget that women can be catty and uncaring to other women too.

Remember that sex offenders are very manipulative - Mrs Rickards has prolly learnt to live in denial and bury her head in the sand for years. It would have bee an easy leap of gullibility once so 'conditioned' to believe whatever her husband told her. n easy next step to.... compromise your own integrity.

[The_Dover]

You might find your arse will get a tad sore after 3,5000+ pigs have been through you......

just grit your teeth scummy. I hear old sphincters are a lot looser than us young fellas.

Or appoint him head of the Special Task Force to tackle Paper Clip Theft nationally (Operation Clippy.) Awful lot of those things get stolen. Or send him on a fact finding mission to study multi cultural policing determinants. In Afganistan. Very multicultural, them.

I got told by one of my workers that we had run out of paper clips. Ther were fucking thousands on the floor. Useless cunts.

Women who support husband rapists with lies and perjury are lower than the rapists. I guarantee you that the BS manufactured by the defense in that latest trial will have hurt the victim more than the bottle or whatever it was.

Its disgusting how the media keeps repeating Rickards so called 'admission' that he had consensual sex with Nicholls as if it is fact. They have no conscience - how do they think that feels to the victim who failed to ge justice - they should shut up instead of repeating defense council lies. That is called revictimisation.

It is illogical and quantum conclusion jumping to say that because the latest victim had said she gave it all she had for Louise Nicholas's sake that she must be some kind of vigilante and therefore lying about her own experience.

Why can her resolve to fight for justice not be strengthened by knowing that someone else was harmed to an even greater extent than she was.

Unless you were there you don't know what happened - I don't mean in the courtroom as a juror either - they know SHIT and have a cheek to even pretend they do and sit in judgment.

Women have about 1% chance of winning any trial where it is mans word versus womans word. As there is a proven bias for people to believe men more.

Anyone who uses the court system to pursue a rapist unless they have a blue chip eyewitness like say the Pope or carry a vcr 25/7 to leave running in case they get raped is wasting her time. Its best just to get a gun and shoot the miscreant.

I joke not - been there and done that. When I was a little Uni student a gang member kidnapped me etc etc (I was lucky to escape with my life) and the trial which was full of BS took 3 days.

People need to understand that trials and the contet are theatre nothing more. Witnesses ie victims are not permitted to tell the full story (censored maximally).

Naturally the psycho freak got 'acquitted' which does not mean they are innocent. Turned out Police sabotaged their own (my) case due to the freak turning narc during an undercover drug operation called "operation 12".

Here is the kinds of things that happen when cops turn dirty.

Policeman McKay as prosecution witness "yes I recieved a ph call from the complainant - initially I did not believe her!!!!!!"

What - are you a moron cop or on the rapists side here or what not believing a normal average uni student who you don't know from a bar of soap. Turs outthis was nothing to do with belief or disbelief but a conniving and successful move to undermine.

WTF!!!!!!! Later when I spoke to the jury (I visited most of them to tape their evidence of what happened as the trial judge would not release the notes for nearly 10 years) some said this cop statement had killed it for them.
They said they felt he must know something bad about me to have said that!

Said by the Police Dr (prolly at the crooked cops request "the (rapist) asked for anti VD drugs" - untrue it was me!

Yes Dr Vause is a very unethical man and I hope he rots in hell.

Said by the judge "I would ask the jury to disregard this defendents gang membership and to conside him as if he was a rotary club member".

2 or 3 years later the freak offeded again but not in the same crooked Police district - so he managed to finally get convicted.

Should rape 2(that I know of but probably rape 200 considering how few people report it) have REALLY happened.

No - but you have Policeman Colin MCKay (the sabotaging witness) and the dead bastard Judge Heron and 12 completely misinformed jurors to blame for the fact that gang member was still on the loose.

My reward for testifying was the cops telling me that it is not good to take on such a big bad criminal gang and I might be best to quit uni and immigrate to Australia.

Unless you have experienced a rape trial you can not know how the lies told in a sick justice system that has NO interest in getting to truth or Justice can burn themselves into your mind forever.

I guarantee you that if I'd got my offender that got away in a marae setting or a restorative justice type setting the truth would have come out.

The Westminster system sux and I refuse to go on juries because I know it is wrong toparticipate and does more harm than good. I cite religious grounds though really its health reasons. I feel sick if I go near courtrooms or see those pompous control freaks in wigs.

People interested in sex crimes often have a strong view that you should do one of 2 things if victimised. Most I know will adviise women to stay well away from the Court system as Justice is not available most occasions.

Others believe the court systen should be persevered with. I think they are fools. I would never even advise use of Police and Justice systems where a sex crime is concerned.

I only wish those who did the courtroom damage made a better job of it and razed that Guantanamo type place to the ground.

Ellie is right. These 3 piggies won't change their spots. I only wonder if future victims will be in intrafamilial since cunning deviates will take care not to mess with someone who just could blow the whistle.

Dynamy Tuss - you said this whole thing will give people more reason to criticise Police. Actually re the latest case I'll give all kudos to thosre involved for doing their best. If Rickards says they went to unusual lengths to nail him who am I to disbelieve that.

Good on them - it would not have been easy to go to great lengths considering police loyalty to each other and all that. Sounds to me like they may have bugged stupid Mrs Rickards phone and caught her out coaching the cousin.

Women are the most dangerous witnesses to have supporting a rapist as everyone thinks women wouldn't defend rapists. People forget that women can be catty and uncaring to other women too.

Remember that sex offenders are very manipulative - Mrs Rickards has prolly learnt to live in denial and bury her head in the sand for years. It would have bee an easy leap of gullibility once so 'conditioned' to believe whatever her husband told her. n easy next step to.... compromise your own integrity.

shouldn't you be in the kitchen?

[Deano]

Regardless of the verdict, when enough shit is flung, some of it will stick, and stick it has.

[candor]

Cook your own eggs Dover!