ATNR (Auckland Thursday night ride) - Discussion thread

[Karma]

That's just one corner I can't take fast, so I'll usually slow down and nana around it at 45ish, this seems to work well enough

[Morcs]

maybe a process for a Bin? ppl who know the way, stop and help. tailend take note of who stopped, but rides on so pointers aren;t waiting for 20 mins.
just a thought.

I agree, if a whole host of people stop (not it isnt necessary yet still happens), then the group should split. 1 person head off as a new tail end picking up all the pointers on there way so they can all get on with their ride, then the second group organize themselves as a separate group and ride as usual.

But hey, I had a bloody good ride last night, stayed on my pointer a while after tail end had gone through, the roads were clear, the sun had gone down but there was still good visibility. perfect.

[The Stranger:Me]

That's just one corner I can't take fast, so I'll usually slow down and nana around it at 45ish, this seems to work well enough

Sure it does, but do you slow down to the recommended speed on each corner where one is posted?
Well if you do you are the first rider I know that does.
Given that people tend to exceed the recommended speed as a matter of course, they are not to know that this one really needs to be heeded - hence the fact that we have lost at least 4 bikes to this corner.

[ManDownUnder]

That's just one corner I can't take fast, so I'll usually slow down and nana around it at 45ish, this seems to work well enough

Yes - it's easy to over cook that one. No shame in "slow in-slow out", a big problem is identifying the corner for those not on the ride so often.

"Is it this one?... no"
"Is it this one?... no"
"Is it this one?... no"
"Is it this one?... no"
"Is it this one?... SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT"

"yup... that's the one..."

[Karma]

Sure it does, but do you slow down to the recommended speed on each corner where one is posted?

Can't say that I do, no.

a big problem is identifying the corner for those not on the ride so often.

Oh totally... the only way I can think to help with this would be to put a pointer on that corner to show it's a hazard, but then where do you stop? Pointers on all dodgy corners and we'd never get anywhere...

[Jimmy B]

Sure it does, but do you slow down to the recommended speed on each corner where one is posted?
Well if you do you are the first rider I know that does.
Given that people tend to exceed the recommended speed as a matter of course, they are not to know that this one really needs to be heeded - hence the fact that we have lost at least 4 bikes to this corner.

Hey TS, Make that 2 then (We met a couple of weeks back) although its the 45 kph and below that start getting my interest, in fact, the lower the posted speed the more interested I become and I usually ride about the recommended speed - Especially if I dont know the road or conditions are a bit tricky eg. Group rides, Sunstrike, Dark, Wet etc

[ManDownUnder]

Can't say that I do, no.



Oh totally... the only way I can think to help with this would be to put a pointer on that corner to show it's a hazard, but then where do you stop? Pointers on all dodgy corners and we'd never get anywhere...

Yeah - but this corner even has a name - Disco corner. The old warning on the outstretched right leg might be useful if people know what to look for, and pass it on/back

[The Stranger:Me]

Can't say that I do, no.



Oh totally... the only way I can think to help with this would be to put a pointer on that corner to show it's a hazard, but then where do you stop? Pointers on all dodgy corners and we'd never get anywhere...

More, my point sir, is that what I am advocating is I believe (and I am sure I will be corrected if I am wrong, hell this is KB, I will even be corrected if I am right) simply common safe riding practice for any given corner (on the road). So there is no need to identify the corner, if you take those lines you will complete the road and wonder what corner we are talking about.

[ManDownUnder]

So there is no need to identify the corner, if you take those lines you will complete the road and wonder what corner we are talking about.

ok - I'll be the one to correct you.

I like to think I take those lines/follow that practice... mostly... but I find an abundance of bikers gathered shortly after it, having a wake over some freshly destroyed plastic does tend to give it away.

[Morcs]

If anything you should go below the recommended speed of that corner, IMO its wrongly rated as a 45, last night i wasnt hooning and checked my speedo on the 35's on peak road (before last straight), i was doing 95..

For some people the only way you will learn that corner is to come off. first time i did it,i went in way to hot, and nana round there everytime now.

Another point is that its at the start of the ride, the group is fairly bunched, so why would anyone go into a corner way hotter than the guys in front of them?

maybe im just spouting shit. Ive just consumed 2 caramel slices and 2 cans of v...im wired...

[The Stranger:Me]

For most people the only way you will learn that corner is to come off. first time i did it,i went in way to hot, and nana round there everytime now.

maybe im just spouting shit. Ive just consumed 2 caramel slices and 2 cans of v...im wired...

No no, I think you are onto something there - we should go there on the Wednesday training ride and all bin on the corner - for learning purposes of course.

So who's in?

[Morcs]

No no, I think you are onto something there - we should go there on the Wednesday training ride and all bin on the corner - for learning purposes of course.

So who's in?

Told u i was spouting shit...

I mean some people, not most people.



EDIT i was perfectly keen on wednesday to practice doing downhill slaloms along a wet flush medium with emergency stops thrown in... no-one else was keen..


But back on topic, there is nothing more that can be done. Everyone is told that they are riding at their own risk, they are warned about the corner, most people do nana it round there. All else that can be done is to not do redhills road, which I don't think should be an option.

[Disco Dan]

Yeah - but this corner even has a name - Disco corner. The old warning on the outstretched right leg might be useful if people know what to look for, and pass it on/back

Maybe I can mount the fence each week and then you all just look out for the big red 'smear' along the road... "ahh thats the corner..."

No no, I think you are onto something there - we should go there on the Wednesday training ride and all bin on the corner - for learning purposes of course.

So who's in?

[slinky]

TS - i have a feeling the guy took your recommended line of getting as close as possible to the white line, though i think he might got too close.
He said his front wheel slid out - he was not going fast - he was fairly upright.
maybe he slid on the white line?
loneranger also thought his tires weren't the best.

[Qkchk:Me]

Oh totally... the only way I can think to help with this would be to put a pointer on that corner to show it's a hazard, but then where do you stop? Pointers on all dodgy corners and we'd never get anywhere...

But this is where a familiar term comes up. "Ride to the conditions". If you dont know the road don't ride it like Superman.