False competitions

**Mrs Busa Pete** · 14th March 2007, 16:10

Originally Posted by maha man

We are still on topic sort of aye?
Um no Cheque.....he perfers a swipe card......

op's didn't she this one. ok will my foodtown card do then

**mstriumph** · 14th March 2007, 16:37

Originally Posted by placidfemme

Yeah a lot of those comp's they hold in malls and stuff are a load of crap just to get your details.

Notice how on the form it asks for your marital status, your income, your phone number and most times what your house is worth?.........

c'mon

SURELY no-one would give any of those details to a perfect stranger in a mall? ............... it'd be insane?

**Maha** · 14th March 2007, 17:16

Originally Posted by busa pete

op's didn't she this one. ok will my foodtown card do then

Yes...you will have to warm first tho,.....oh and wear rubber gloves....

**Stickchick** · 14th March 2007, 17:41

Originally Posted by Squeak the Rat

I guess some one should make a complaint then.....

Contact them and ask for the competition details, who won the last one, how it's drawn, how long it goes for - basically full disclosure. Send it to the commission if it's dodge, and cc it to the commerce commission as it also falls under the fair trading act.

I work for the Lotteries Commission so you can forward to me if you like I will get the necessary people to investigate.

**Mrs Busa Pete** · 14th March 2007, 18:07

Originally Posted by Guitana

When I was a younger Rooster me and a couple of mates rang a random number and told the guy we were from a local radio station in Wellington and that he had just won Ten Thousand dollars in a competition! He told me he was surprised because he had'nt entered one but was really fucken excited that he had won!!! This went on for about five minutes then I felt a bit sorry for him and came clean the language was amazing I was trying to write down some of the shit he was saying as even I had never heard it before!!!
Karma is hunting me down!!!!!

I done that one as well but i rang a neighbour and then sent $10 monopoly money and waited for her to get it in the mail. Bloody funny it was.

**Skyryder** · 14th March 2007, 20:24

Originally Posted by TempBJ

...I had a 69 with a box once...

Yea and my singing teacher sugested I should practice yodeling up the canyon.

Skyryder

**Maha** · 14th March 2007, 20:35

Originally Posted by Skyryder

Yea and my singing teacher sugested I should practice yodeling up her canyon.

Skyryder

Really?.... all i got from my music teacher was a -C.......

**Skyryder** · 14th March 2007, 20:48

Originally Posted by maha man

Really?.... all i got from my music teacher was a -C.......

That's what happens when you fumble with the G string.

Skyryder

**avgas** · 15th March 2007, 15:14

Hello Stewart

Your email has been forwarded to me for response.

"Gambling" is defined in section 4 of the Gambling Act 2003 (the Act).

"gambling'' —
(a) means paying or staking consideration, directly or indirectly, on the outcome of something seeking to win money when the outcome depends wholly or partly on chance; and
(b) includes a sales promotion scheme; and
(c) includes bookmaking; and
(d) includes betting, paying, or staking consideration on the outcome of a sporting event; but
(e) does not include an act, behaviour, or transaction that is declared not to be gambling by regulations made under section 368

If there was payment, either directly or indirectly, to enter the draw (indirect payment may be if the people had to pay to enter a demonstration or event and the entry entitled them to entry into a draw), then it may be caught by the Gambling Act 2003.

From the information you have provided, it does not appear that people have to pay anything to enter either directly or indirectly. Therefore, it does not appear, from the information provided, to be caught by the Gambling Act 2003.

You may wish to check with other organisations/legislation, such as Consumer or Fair Trading, to see if they have any rules around draws that are not gambling activities.

Regards

Judy #####
Senior Gambling Inspector
Gaming Compliance Unit
The Department of Internal Affairs Te Tari Taiwhenua
Direct Dial: +64 4 495 9466
Fax: +64 4 494 0656
www.dia.govt.nz

"Stewart Farr"

13/03/2007 14:19

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Subject
Competition/Raffle question

If a competition (free entry), does not give away its prize, or tells mis truths about there being a prize.
Is it illegal in NZ?
Reason for my question is that i am forever seeing timeshare (Trendwest etc) based companies running "Giveaways", but i am yet to see them ever present a prize to someone, or announce a winner.
I have been told that since there is no fee for entry, then it is not a gaming problem, and therefore not illegal.
Is this correct?

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Cheers
Stew

**Squeak the Rat** · 15th March 2007, 17:25

Dude, you want the lotteries commission and/or the commerce commission.. The DIA only looks after gambling as per their definition.

See Stickchicks post earlier - she's offered to pass something on!

**pzkpfw** · 16th March 2007, 12:23

Originally Posted by Stickchick

I work for the Lotteries Commission...

Hi,

You couldn't answer a question for me then? (I can pay in KB Bling).

It's about those phone/text "competitions" where they ask a daft question like "Is that thing in the picture that any kid can tell you is the Eiffel Tower; in A) Paris or B) Berlin?".

Apart from the whole rip-off thing (on my good quality 32" CRT/TV I can't barely read the $5 per text disclaimer) how are these even legal?

They basically seem to be a lottery - which I thought had to be regulated.

Is that simple question (and the ones that follow for more $) all they need to do to make it not a lottery?

(Like, I guess, the competitions from people like coke where they say "fill in the missing letter in [CO_A CO_A]".)

Can I just put an ad in the paper that says "Send $5 to P.O.Box 1234 to be in the draw to win $100, and by the way, tell us who is on a $5 note"?

Sorry, that was more of a rant than a question. Hope you saw it in there somewhere.

Cheers,