Respect the Cops? WHY!

[98tls]

Funny how little importance on life is in this thread...

400 odd at least die on the roads every year, thoudsands seriously injured and hospitalised, on tax payer ACC... but hey, thats OK.

F1 and GP1 has its rare share of death, but the difference there is if something goes wrong, everyone is heading in the same direction... unlike that on the roads around these parts.

Property crime doesn't kill... but that is what many want to see all Police targetting ...

Considering the number of cars on the road i reckon thats not to bad.....dont get me wrong it would be great if there where none but lets get realistic........theres good drivers theres bad drivers just like theres good and bad in any group of people that do anything.......add speed alcohol etc then the risk goes up.....why people dont understand the cops targeting those areas is beyond me..........on the good cop bad cop thing i reckon if most of us had to put up with the shit that alot of em get every working day/night then we would get a bit jaded with our attitude to the general public as well......my old lady works at the 111 call center and has to put up with hundreds of drunken dipshits every night on the phone.......imagine dealing with there crap in person............

[RT527]

Actually you are all targeting the wrong people when it comes to cops issuing tickets....they are only enforcing laws put in place by you me and every other citizen in NZ.

Well thats what the Govt would have us think, Because democracy is at work in NZ ...is it not?......so stop attacking people doing there jobs and concentrate on becoming pro active in calling the correct people to account, which mind you wont happen cause we are one big bunch of soft cocks and Greenies........I think enforcement is being policed in the wrong area.....its not the speed that kills ...rather the idiots who cant drive....speed is only a factor in it.


You can still die from a ruptured aorta from an impact of around 40-60 kmph,
We have had a couple of accidents like this where theres not a mark on them , and we've had accidents where the two vehicles have collided at a 220 kph impact speed and both drivers have walked away , with minor to serious injury's.

I personally think there are many more reasons to respect the Police than there are scumbags within the police.

They do a good job where they can.

We should be supporting them not destroying them.Cause if we keep up the current situation ...even more cops are gonna leave.

[Quartermile]

Well, I agree with you there are the absolute pricks in the force, but that said these people are everywhere not just in the police maybe the power goes to their head so it enhances their prickness.

But there are also the legend ones just as there are everywhere but in the police the power they get the can use to serve the community.

So once again issues come down to power, how much, how it is used but given too much power can screw people up bad.......enters NZ Govt

I see the law enforcement issues more brought on by the Govt rather than the police, they don't make the law they enforce it but as I said above some of them abuse this but if the law was great for us we would still get raped by some bastards.

The Government isn't helping this, I(hope) that I've never attacked the Police I try only to attack the Govt as they are the cunts making the rules!

[RT527]

Bugger, because even though I support the age increase, it's not them crashing, it's the 19-24 lot.

I would even suggest older than that....80 % of our accidents involve family, or the 25-45 yr olds ....

[Mort]

Get caught speeding get a ticket - fair enough.... But I would like to see what impact this campaign has on :

1) Accident statistics - I bet it hasnt changed
2) Crime detection rates
3) Cosy of an funding the police

As a new comer to this country I am of the opinon that all cops do here is stop people for speeding.... usually where and when its easiest for them to do it. I have seen more drunk driving here in 6 months than I have ever seen before.... but you never see a cop round here in the evening when the bars are open.

Cops should get their priorities straight. Reckless drivers and drunks and speeding past school kids yes... filling quotas with people driving through the cops best "nicking spot" no.

They will never have my support for the way they operate.

[candor]

We have teen aged kids going through the licence process, and when I rang LTSA recently to query the likely hood of driver licence age increasing, I was told they get several call each day about this, and it is just a rumour. Not even being considered.

LTNZ would not know yet, the discussion is at Ministerial level. The source was the head of the largest driver training and so called driver advocate org in NZ and he is always at Knackstedts side or is the one to make media comment when big policy announcements are made.

This corporate org is also tipped to be the beneficiary of a compulsory driver training scheme to be announced at the same time. This org has been using some dirty tactics to try and crush other training competitors. I'd buy shares in it if I had the doe. I'm pretty sure, sure as can be this tip is correct.

[98tls]

Get caught speeding get a ticket - fair enough.... But I would like to see what impact this campaign has on :

1) Accident statistics - I bet it hasnt changed
2) Crime detection rates
3) Cosy of an funding the police

As a new comer to this country I am of the opinon that all cops do here is stop people for speeding.... usually where and when its easiest for them to do it. I have seen more drunk driving here in 6 months than I have ever seen before.... but you never see a cop round here in the evening when the bars are open.

Cops should get their priorities straight. Reckless drivers and drunks and speeding past school kids yes... filling quotas with people driving through the cops best "nicking spot" no.

They will never have my support for the way they operate.

Dont know where you are but down here there all over the place at night...and good on them.........if a cop has a best nicking spot then you have to ask why.........the answer is obvious.......i guess we could take them all off the road and give them burglarys to solve but in most cases i dont fancy there chances....as a motorcyclist whos been cleaned up by an idiot i dont mind seeing them out on the road at all..........ive been flashed by a few when a bit over the limit and any speeding tickets ive received ive been well over and taking my chances....fair cop...xcuse the pun.

[scracha]

As a new comer to this country I am of the opinon that all cops do here is stop people for speeding.... usually where and when its easiest for them to do it. I have seen more drunk driving here in 6 months than I have ever seen before.... but you never see a cop round here in the evening when the bars are open.

Cops should get their priorities straight. Reckless drivers and drunks and speeding past school kids yes... filling quotas with people driving through the cops best "nicking spot" no.

They will never have my support for the way they operate.

Totally agree with that. Some of the blokes down the pub can hardly walk out the place but still get in their ute's and drive home. They've been doing it for years. Can't see how it would take a lot of police resources to catch them.

I beg some of my mates to walk home or try and give them a lift but "she'll be right".

[scumdog]

Totally agree with that. Some of the blokes down the pub can hardly walk out the place but still get in their ute's and drive home. They've been doing it for years. Can't see how it would take a lot of police resources to catch them.

I beg some of my mates to walk home or try and give them a lift but "she'll be right".

Regarding the drink-driving thing, people still aprove it, after all why would they phone the pub as soon as they see the first cop car nearby??

"Ya better not drive home tonight, the booze bus is here and it got Bill"

Translation: It is OK to drive home totally pissed as long as you don't get caught.

Even the publicans do it, listen to scanners then call the other pubs to let them know "Watch it, the booze-bus guys are around your area".

Translation: It's OK for me to fill you full of piss and let you drive home most of the time - but best not to drive off THIS time.

I'd spit on drunk drivers if it were not for PCA.

[98tls]

Fair call SD..........and well put..........gotta be honest and say ive been nicked for drink driving..........looking back i can always only think one thought......thank god i never killed/injured an innocent person going about there business.................

[Ixion]

Totally agree with that. Some of the blokes down the pub can hardly walk out the place but still get in their ute's and drive home. They've been doing it for years. ..

Any of them ever had an accident over those years ?

[RT527]

Any of them ever had an accident over those years ?

plenty of pissed guys from both the ngatea and paeroa pubs have come to grief on there way home...

Besides it doesn't make it right that they might not have either ...point is its illegal to drink and drive....and their attitude is ..She`ll be right, Bullshit....

[98tls]

Problem is that everyone finds it sad at the time but instead of thinking about it its easier to buy another beer get shitfaced and drive home........someone posted earlier that it should be easy to catch guys doing it but theres probably more pubs in this country than cops............

[Flatcap]

plenty of pissed guys from both the ngatea and paeroa pubs have come to grief on there way home...

I woulda've thought their horses would get them home fine...just fall asleep side-saddle and trigger would know the way

[spudchucka]

Must admit whilst not a hoon my 3 month LTSA Holiday makes me think about what roads to chose.

There lies at least a 95% chance of avoiding a walking holiday.

Time, place & circumstances have a hell of a lot to do with keeping your licence.