Respect the Cops? WHY!

[scumdog]

i rest my case

max is 100kmh, no matter what!

111 on a fine day with minimal traffic, unlimited visibility with good road surface is not ok

100 on a wet day with heavy traffic, minimal visibility, bad road surface IS ok

speed and only speed kills

And then if they followed your ideas on what is speeding at the 'right' time and o.k. the whinger would start down the "well the road wasn't REALLY wet" or "There wasn't THAT much traffic" or "Well, the visibility wasn't TOO bad"

So it's easier to draw a flat 100kmh line and say "Don't cross it"


Especially given the abilities of a lot of riders and drivers.

[smoky]

So it's easier to draw a flat 100kmh line and say "Don't cross it".

Do all police see things that black and white, if you're speeding then bang - ticket? Or can they exercise some discrepancy.

[scumdog]

Do all police see things that black and white, if you're speeding then bang - ticket? Or can they exercise some discrepancy.

Oh they can 'exercise discrepancy' as you say and often do..

But some people expect it as a right.

Normally you won't get a ticket for 10kmh or less over the limit - but some people see that 10kmh addition to the speed limit as the 'norm' - and whimper "I was only 2 kay over" when they get caught doing 112kmh.

[RT527]

All of them were moving at some velocity. While their velocity may not have caused the crash it ultimately has a great deal to do with their sudden departure.

But as I explained two cars traveling toward each other at less than 100-130 kph impact speed can still kill, but if they are on the open road , they were not speeding, as my impact speed puts them at between 50 and 60 kph
Yet they were still traveling at a velocity which was in part responsible for there death, so what caused there deaths was it speed or was it road conditions at the time....the gummymint would have us believe that speed kills in the majority of the accidents when its clearly not the case, probably more deaths are attributed to not paying attention than speed, but because the person who while doing 105 hits , lets say a car thats failed to stop at an intersection and has pulled out in front of The other vehicle , that accident will go down in the speed killed statistics, not the inattention to road signs or failing to stop.....adds more weight to their argument of speed kills.

[Matt Bleck]

Oh they can 'exercise discrepancy' as you say and often do..

But some people expect it as a right.

Normally you won't get a ticket for 10kmh or less over the limit - but some people see that 10kmh addition to the speed limit as the 'norm' - and whimper "I was only 2 kay over" when they get caught doing 112kmh.

Losers and liars...what are they thinking?!...A sneeky dealer thinks he's pulling a fast one...a drunk driver thinks he's unstoppable...and a pushy princess thinks the law doesn't apply to her...but if they think they're getting away with anything...they better think twice!

[kiwifruit]

Losers and liars...what are they thinking?!...A sneeky dealer thinks he's pulling a fast one...a drunk driver thinks he's unstoppable...and a pushy princess thinks the law doesn't apply to her...but if they think they're getting away with anything...they better think twice!

most people don’t even think about law enforcement until they either do something wrong, or get wronged them self. But police know that fighting crime is a full time job. If something isn’t going down now, it will be soon and officers have to be ready.

[Steam]

Losers and liars...what are they thinking?!...A sneeky dealer thinks he's pulling a fast one...a drunk driver thinks he's unstoppable...and a pushy princess thinks the law doesn't apply to her...but if they think they're getting away with anything...they better think twice!

Wow, if you put on a gung-ho american accent you'll sound EXACTLY like that guy from World's Wildest Police Videos. He rocks!

[MWVT]

Oh they can 'exercise discrepancy' as you say and often do..

But some people expect it as a right.

Normally you won't get a ticket for 10kmh or less over the limit - but some people see that 10kmh addition to the speed limit as the 'norm' - and whimper "I was only 2 kay over" when they get caught doing 112kmh.

Part of the problem here is that people have the perception that the police will not exercise their "discrepancy" as they 'have a quota to meet'. It seems to joe public that the police are not rewarded for being fair, reasonable, and yes using their "discrepancy" fairly often. That could be a completely unfair perception, but you police folk could shed some light on that, if you choose to.

[kiwifruit]

Wow, if you put on a gung-ho american accent you'll sound EXACTLY like that guy from World's Wildest Police Videos. He rocks!

Although their drunken antics may seem amusing, there's nothing funny about ten years in a federal pen.

[spudchucka]

But as I explained two cars traveling toward each other at less than 100-130 kph impact speed can still kill, but if they are on the open road , they were not speeding, as my impact speed puts them at between 50 and 60 kph
Yet they were still traveling at a velocity which was in part responsible for there death, so what caused there deaths was it speed or was it road conditions at the time....the gummymint would have us believe that speed kills in the majority of the accidents when its clearly not the case, probably more deaths are attributed to not paying attention than speed, but because the person who while doing 105 hits , lets say a car thats failed to stop at an intersection and has pulled out in front of The other vehicle , that accident will go down in the speed killed statistics, not the inattention to road signs or failing to stop.....adds more weight to their argument of speed kills.

I don't give a rats arse what any crash statistics say.

You can't die in a road crash if you aren't moving or aren't hit by another moving object. Hence the reason that we have speed limits and why speed is targeted by police, to keep mean speeds down and hopefully reduce road trauma. Trauma can happen at low speeds (as you have highlighted) but it almost always happens at higher speeds.

At 105 kph the driver of that car or the car he hit might survive, at 120 - 130 plus in a side impact you are fucked big time.

[smoky]

Part of the problem here is that people have the perception that the police will not exercise their "discrepancy" as they 'have a quota to meet'. It seems to joe public that the police are not rewarded for being fair, reasonable, and yes using their "discrepancy" fairly often. That could be a completely unfair perception, but you police folk could shed some light on that, if you choose to.

Not a quota - a performance Target. I guess what you've expressed is what a lot of people are left feeling.
I get left with a bit of a mixed feeling myself, but at the end of the day if you do the crime - you do the time (or pay the fine).
I guess the Police have to decide what kind of reputation they want.
If they see some one scooting along a little bit fast on a clear road in good conditions bla bla bla sort of thing; do they really sit there and think 'I would normal look the other way but I'm getting a bit of greif from my senior about performance targets so I better pull them over and issue an infringment notice'. Do they think like that?

[Swoop]

Scary, the level of intelligence presented by "joshua wright"...

Illegal to defend yourself but legal to carry a concealed weapon? Back to Porirua son (do not pass go, do not collect a warrant card)...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Sports/Hunt...n-91499388.htm

[spudchucka]

$200 for an expandable stick, what an idiot!

[Ixion]

What happened to the good old wooden truncheon?

[The_Dover]

What happened to the good old wooden truncheon?

Clint sold them off as sex toys to fund the Annual Policemans Ball and Gangbang.