Received a $570 fine. But I feel there are some double standards.

[imdying]

This is a troll, right?

Yes, you can claim this as a course related cost... you don't need receipts or quotes for transports costs afaik. Just claim $1000 under 'transport'.

[Bloody Mad Woman (BMW)]

Agree with Beemer (love it - shit show and no show!!). Anything over 140kph you also get to have "a criminal record" That is the one thing I DO keep in mind when I choose to speed.

[Patrick]

he would have been quite within his rights to charge you with exceeding YOUR speed limit by 56kph and make you walk home.

No... the speed limit was 100. The condition on his licence says not to exceed 70, which is not a speed limit, it is a licence condition. If he was doing 141 in a 100kmph zone on his learners/restricted or full, yep, start walking.

If a learner was doing 95 in a 100 zone, not breaking the 100kmph speed limit, that is the exceeding the 70kmph condition on his licence... a rare ticket issued usually only to dickheads with bad attitude, which needed adjusting immediately at the time with a $400 instant fine.

[Madness]

No indeed. 70 kph is not a speed limit, it is a condition of your licence. So the cop could have added ANOTHER $400 and 25 demerits for that.
Incidentally I think that speeding fine goes along with 30 demerits, and the no L plate is another 25 demerits. So that knocks you back by 55 demerit points. You don't want to risk doing that again.

Did you give that copper a blow job or something?

126kph = $230 + 30 demerits
Not displaying L plate = breach of licence conditions $400 + 25 demerits
Exceeding 70kph = breach of licence conditions $400 + 25 demerits

All in all $1030 + 80 demerits

My understanding in the issuing of Demerit carrying Infringements where you recieve more than one in a single notice is that only one (the higher one) Demerit amount is recorded against your licence.

Anyone like to differ with me here??

[Patrick]

Anything over 140kph you also get to have "a criminal record" That is the one thing I DO keep in mind when I choose to speed.

Not quite again... Anything over 40kmph over the limit you still get an instant fine speeding ticket but you also lose your licence on the spot for 28 days(except in temporary zones) - no criminal record.

If it is over 50kmph over the limit, 28 day loss of licence and a court case, usually for dangerous speed - minimum loss of licence for 6 months (on top of the 28 day suspension) - includes temporary zones and results in a conviction.

[Beemer]

No... the speed limit was 100. The condition on his licence says not to exceed 70, which is not a speed limit, it is a licence condition. If he was doing 141 in a 100kmph zone on his learners/restricted or full, yep, start walking.

If a learner was doing 95 in a 100 zone, not breaking the 100kmph speed limit, that is the exceeding the 70kmph condition on his licence... a rare ticket issued usually only to dickheads with bad attitude, which needed adjusting immediately at the time with a $400 instant fine.

Thanks for clarifying that - I wondered how it worked, whether you got charged with exceeding the actual road speed limit or the limit imposed by your licence. I assume it's the same with trailers? So if you were pulled up doing 126 and towing a trailer, you'd be done for 26km over the limit, not 36?

We used to have a few traffic officers (as they were in those days) in the family and all said that the attitude of the driver played a big part. If they accepted they were in the wrong and didn't try and abuse them, they just got charged with whatever they'd been pulled up for. If they argued or got abusive, they would go over their vehicle with a fine-toothed comb and try and get them for any other little offence!

[Patrick]

My understanding in the issuing of Demerit carrying Infringements where you recieve more than one in a single notice is that only one (the higher one) Demerit amount is recorded against your licence.

Anyone like to differ with me here??

I differ with you there.

If the driving is that bad, they would deserve all demerits...

[Patrick]

Thanks for clarifying that - I wondered how it worked, whether you got charged with exceeding the actual road speed limit or the limit imposed by your licence. I assume it's the same with trailers? So if you were pulled up doing 126 and towing a trailer, you'd be done for 26km over the limit, not 36?

We used to have a few traffic officers (as they were in those days) in the family and all said that the attitude of the driver played a big part. If they accepted they were in the wrong and didn't try and abuse them, they just got charged with whatever they'd been pulled up for. If they argued or got abusive, they would go over their vehicle with a fine-toothed comb and try and get them for any other little offence!

No - the "speed limit" for towing a trailer is 90.

Good attitudes might even get a warning... bad attitudes - yep, fine tooth comb is apossibility.

[Ixion]

I think that Mr MaximusDemeritus is correct, and that, as a matter of policy not law, only the most serious demerit offence is "totted up" for a single event.

[Beemer]

No - the "speed limit" for towing a trailer is 90.

Thanks for that, we regularly tow a trailer and a mate did get done for doing 111kph (when the speed limit was 80) but I couldn't remember if he got done for doing 11kms over or 31 - it must have been 31 in that case.

[Patrick]

Hey Patrick, can you clarify that mate. If you are convicted of dangerous speed, is that a "criminal conviction" or something lesser?
What about for driving contrary to your limited licence conditions? A "conviction" again in that case.. does it result in a "criminal" conviction or still just a traffic conviction? Maybe my terminology is not quite right, but I think you get my gist.

Dangerous speed is the same as dangerous driving, 3 months imprisonment, $4500 fine (maximums here folks, no one gets that...) or both, and minimum 6 months disquialification. If memory serves me right, driving contrary to conditions of a limited licence is the same was driving while disqualified?

Both have a "conviction" but they are traffic matters, lodged on a criminal record, but treated as traffic matters only.

[slimjim]

that's a real bummer dude, but like all the rest say , you best pay and don't forget if you got insurance.............. are you gona tell them of this....... hum i think not cause you may lose even more haha.... well you gona play on the road you gota be prepared to pay as well, and most times the offending officer does not have all of your detail's, that comes via head office

[The Pastor]

Did you give that copper a blow job or something?

126kph = $230 + 30 demerits
Not displaying L plate = breach of licence conditions $400 + 25 demerits
Exceeding 70kph = breach of licence conditions $400 + 25 demerits

All in all $1030 + 80 demerits

You're a lucky lucky ...see life of Brian for the rest of this sentence.

No you only get demerits from one (the one with the most) offence, so if he was charged with the 3 offences he would of gotten 30 demerits total.

[scumdog]

No you only get demerits from one (the one with the most) offence, so if he was charged with the 3 offences he would of gotten 30 demerits total.

And that sure as hell would take the sting out of the $1030 worth of fines..

[The Pastor]

luckly he wasnt on a bike with no rego and wof after 10pm.

speeding 170
No L plates 400
over 70km 400
after 10pm 400
no wof 200
no rego 200

total fines 1770. Have a nice day.