gee wizzz
Just a thought here folks. I hear over and over again about cage drivers doing this and city councils doing that. Its a pretty common subject in here.
How about we actually think to ourselves "I ACCEPT PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS TO ME"
Think it through folks
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Freakin' hippy
Does that extend to victims of crime?Originally Posted by FROSTY
Is it your responsibility for a home invasion in which your wife gets beaten senseless and your daughter raped?
How about a disabled person, are they responsible for being in a wheelchair after someone in a car ran off the road and hit them on the footpath?
Or a healthy person who has a stroke because of a hereditary disease and is paralysed on one side, is that their fault?
Is it the fault of a Rawandan that they got hacked to pieces by a machette weilding tribesman?
That's one of the stupidest things I have ever heard Frosty. Shame on you.
EDIT: Oh, he meant on the road. Yep, I agree with that.
Determined to kill my bike before it kills me
Deus ex ukulele
OK, I've thought it through. Now what?
"Standing on your mother's corpse you told me that you'd wait forever." [Bryan Adams: Summer of 69]
gee wizzz
On the road dude on the road!!
To see a life newly created.To watch it grow and prosper. Isn't that the greatest gift a human being can be given?
gee wizzz
by accepting responsibilityinstead of blaming others we can actually do something to prevent the accident otr incident I keep reading about.
To see a life newly created.To watch it grow and prosper. Isn't that the greatest gift a human being can be given?
Forum whore
Bit harsh isn't it.
Frosty was talking about whilst riding, not everything in life.
Plus Frosty is right - there is a truckload of shit that goes down that people just don't think about.
Spoke to a guy the other day cursing a car which changed lanes and knocked him off his bike.
Sure it was the cage fault, but if he wasn't riding in their blind spot and had left room for the cage to just pull over (as they are want to do, and we all know it) he would have been sweet. Who came off worse? The bike of course. He could have been killed and would it matter who's fault it was?
So had he taken responsibility for his riding he wouldn't have been sitting there.
Freakin' hippy
True dat. Even when somebody nearly hits me due to their stupidity, I still know it's my choice to be out there on the bike, ultimately it's my responsibility to choose not to drive a nice safe volvo with airbags and abs and side-intrusion bars, etc.
So I agree totally with you Frosty.
Determined to kill my bike before it kills me
Deep in the heart...
You know I could be wrong, but I believe he said think it through, clearly you didn't.
Frosty is absolutely right, and any shame should be on you steam. We all need to accept responsibility for OUR actions, our choices which may increase the risks and possible consequences to us as a result of our decisions on the road.
I grant you that Frosty could have maybe phrased it more clearly but his meaning was clear to those of us who have been around a bit.
The Stranger mentions a discussion I was also part of and both of us tried to make the rider concerned understand that he had made several decisions leading up to his 'off' that made a big difference to how things worked out. I am still concerned that this rider doesn't understand how his actions basically created the situation where he could be 'taken by surprise' by a car.
That is a good example of not taking responsibility for one's actions.
Like Frosty said, think about it.
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Couldn't agree more Frosty. That philosophy plays a large part in the way I ride, and is why I've stayed safe over the last two and a half years and 30,000+ kms on my bikes.
Simple really.
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Forum whore
Yep, after a rather recent close-up inspection of a cage driver's door I had a number of people ask "was it his fault?". Technically, yes, but all I could say in reply was "He didn't obey the road rules.... but I should have seen him coming and done something about it".
Scattering the morning dew
And therein lies the crux of the matter. It doesn't matter whose fault it is.
All that matters is that you try your doggone hardest to avoid a bin, whoever is in the wrong. And even then it may still happen.
Scotsman on a German
Aww but it's so much fun to blame someone else. There's a kind of therapeutic value to being able to say "my bin didn't count coz they ran a red light..........and I really didn't expect them to." Means I can carry on ignoring what the cages are up to and get knocked off again.
You're spoiling my fun!
Seriously though - wot Frosty sed.
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Forum whore
There was that rhyme many moons ago...
"Here lies the body of William Clay,
who died maintaining his 'right of way'.
He was right, dead right, as he sped along!
But now he's just as dead, as if he'd been dead wrong!"
One does wonder at times, that while there are situations beyond our control when accidents occur, how many could have been avoided if the victim had been riding defensively, rather than aggressively.
"I've got the right of way, here, that idiot driver better not to anything stupid!" is tempting fate. EXPECT the "idiot driver" to do something stupid! Discretion is the better part of valour. While your memory may be honoured, you're still dead and can't ride anymore...
You don't get to be an old dog without learning a few tricks.
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Arhhh...you miserable Scots need something to amuse yaselves I guess..........Aww but it's so much fun to blame someone else. There's a kind of therapeutic value to being able to say "my bin didn't count coz they ran a red light..........and I really didn't expect them to." Means I can carry on ignoring what the cages are up to and get knocked off again.
You're spoiling my fun!
Seriously though - wot Frosty sed.
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Sorry to disagree...
But sure IF I was doing something stupid and came unstuck THEN i'll accept responsibility for my actions and not try flog the blame off.
When I am following the road laws of NZ and someone else decides not to then why should I say oh it was my fault for not being a frikken mind reader. Sure on the road you develope a second sense about when people are about to do something silly but it doesn't mean I am going to worry about every cage within a 5m radius of my bike.
Now I know I'm not the most rule abiding road user.... but I sure as hell am not going to try reason away people who run red lights, pull out of driveways without looking, change lanes without checking thier blind spots etc etc.. as to the blind spot riding comment, It's like overtaking on the track it's THIER responsibility to make sure the road is clear for them to change not our's, we can be courtious when they indicate (which most don't) but that's about it.
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And the ones she got were sort of rotten and insane...
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