Concern over poor protective clothing

[SPman]

They tried the training thing in NSW to discourage young people getting into bikes! What happened....the death and injury toll among new riders in NSW has dropped 28% in the last 2 years, with an increase in new riders, while cars have remained static ! :big grin:

Now that is more of a safety effect than all the easy bullshit they foist on us - speed, drink, speed etc...

Safer cars mean video game drivers, until it all turns to shit!

[SPman]

Originally posted by Antallica
Man it does feel good when wearing sweet nothing mind you  

It Sure Does!

[wkid_one]

Originally posted by curious george
*sigh*
You do affect other people. Family, friends, the guy who has to scrape you off the road.
It also keeps me awake on night shift when I have to fix your
broken ass
We probably average 1-2 serious crashes a week at Auckland Hospital, and about 99.9% were: riding in T-shirts, jeans and sneakers. This makes it easy to cut their clothes off, but thats about it.
Some were stoned/drunk and also had no proper clothes.
I guess it's like Darwin's natural selection theory is working, but we tend to squew the results by fixing these people so they can go and do it again.

*ends rant, lightens up, and goes for a ride *

Not also forgetting the other flow on effects....

• Increased Insurance Premiums
• Increased ACC Levies
• Increased negative stigma about MB'ers
• Increased focus by the Police

 

[WanaGo]

I got a cumfy jacket, I got a cumfy jacket....


WanaGo

[jrandom]

Originally posted by WanaGo
I got a cumfy jacket, I got a cumfy jacket....

Yes, I think I've got the same one you mentioned.

It *is* kinda snuggly, isn't it?

[WanaGo]

Yep, I like it aye.

Here is my jacket.

www.kbl.co.nz/MyJacket/





WanaGo

[jrandom]

Originally posted by WanaGo
Here is my jacket.

'snot quite the same one, I think it just has some different shiny bits on it.

The pants that go with it are good. Goooooooood. Very abrasion-resistant

I had to ask the guy in the shop for the largest size, though

[Coldkiwi]

well done to those that have just learned something from the mistakes and experience of others.

no points to people being stupid and stubborn. go to the back of the class.

[Antallica]

Ugh, I went driving today in my dress pants... bloody jeans are at the dry cleaners. Not very safe and ideal.

I really need to get some cheap gears, I'll have $600 so maybe I'll go on the hunt for some 2nd hand gear.

[Marmoot]

Don't mean to be slightly off topic, but, here's my opinion on bikes vs cars.

Having mates died both on cars and bikes, I tend to think that going on the road is gambling your life. They are as dangerous as each other.
With bikes, you tend to suffer more injuries in slower-speed accident. Tumble off at 50 and you'll receive grazes, while in car you are almightily protected.
But, crash at 130kph and you'll be flying to (hopefully) a ditch if you're on a bike, and (hopefully too) you'll only get concussion and/or some broken bones. In the car, crash at 130 and they'll spend 3 hours just to cut you out of the wreckage (that is if you are still alive). Ever heard about the Wellington boyracer on Evo4 who died instantly in his crash?

The risk is ALWAYS there. The game is only to manage it. How to minimize your loses WHEN the number is up. It's not about "if", it's just about "when".

Take this from an experienced rider/driver (I mean, experienced in the subject of crashing )

And, honestly, I feel more scared of dying in my car than on my bike. I got away from 3 150+ crashes on the bike....I don't think I will get away even once in the car.

[Marmoot]

P.S.
I hung up my leather due to recent crash. Not because I grew scared of bikes, but due to financial reason for just financing new car and not having reserve to repair the bike and stupid enough not to insure it and blah blah blah blah blah......(boring same old song......)

[bikerboy]

If you can afford to dry clean your jeans, then you can afford some decent gear. It's just a matter of getting your priorities straight.

[georgedubyabush]

Originally posted by Antallica
Ugh, I went driving today in my dress pants... bloody jeans are at the dry cleaners. Not very safe and ideal.

That D word needs to be blocked like swearing on some forums. Seems to really bug some people

[Antallica]

Originally posted by bikerboy
If you can afford to dry clean your jeans, then you can afford some decent gear. It's just a matter of getting your priorities straight.

Actually mums paying for it and where can I find decent gears for that much eh?

[jrandom]

Originally posted by Marmoot
(snip stuff about car crashes being dangerous too)
The risk is ALWAYS there. The game is only to manage it. How to minimize your loses WHEN the number is up. It's not about "if", it's just about "when"

Bollocks. Nothing personal, Marmoot, but this is a load of fatalistic shite. We make our *own* destiny with every twitch of the throttle or glance at the road. If you've crashed three times (no other vehicles involved, yes?) then that's three times you made a choice that you shouldn't have made. There is no number to be 'up'. It's just that kind of responsibility-avoiding mentality that, I think, creates the rash of terrible road users we're seeing everywhere in NZ at the moment.

Contrary to how many think of it, the 'risk' is only driven from statistics created from numbers plucked out of a very real and organic world, where people make decisions and behave in very different ways across continually changing situations.

I could have crashed many times over the last year or so, but I avoided all of them (and made one stupid mistake which fortunately didn't injure me seriously). It still comes down to your awareness and thinking ability (and physical ability, too, on a bike).

When I'm on the road, I'm in control. I apply my awareness of physics to my observation of other road users (who may or may not be aware of *me*) and ride within the limitations of my own skill and my machine. If I ever do stuff up and get hurt (and stay alive), I sure as hell won't be bleating about inevitability. I'll be learning from the experience.