Wednesday Night Ride

[gloplg]

I really don't like Summit Rd anymore, considering the condition the road is in, and after I nearly went off a cliff there last week.

OK........ I hear you.

What viable alternatives do you have?

Please remember that they must provide challanges and interest over a whole range of riding skills and ages. At this time of the year with only an hour or so of daylight and a pub or something at the other end to provide meals etc.

Please do not tell me what you don't like. Tell me what you do like and want to do.

With the state of our roads and venues we are limited.

Everyone please think about where we can go. Places like Oxford, Akaroa and Greta Valley need a longer period of daylight for safe riding. They are on the list for next month.

[Retroqueen]

What viable alternatives do you have?


ahhh now I mentioned this with one or two last night. We are definitely limited to the roads we can ride at the moment but there is no reason a little thought couldn't go into some planning for alternatives.
I myself cringe at the summit road but I go because it reminds me that my bike will bite me if I make a mistake and it wakes me up to that fact.
Anyway a couple of suggestions that may be of use.
There are pubs that we haven't gone to and perhaps could take a look at and one of them is the Tai Tap.
1) Leave BK and ride up and over dyers pass, heading to the Wheatsheaf corner. Re group in the shingle patch on the right just after turning at that corner. Head up over Gebbies pass on to the blue duck. Turn right and head into Tai Tap. take first right at the wool spinners and head around to the Tai Tap pub.

2) change direction and head out through town with a re group just past the vets in Halswell and then up over Gebbies and around to the Governors Bay pub. Only problem with that pub is the lack of parking for bikes and if your unsure of shingle their secondary car park can be a nightmare but they appear to be open and we need to support businesses hit by the quake. Alternatively continue on around the bays to Lyttleton and find a pub in Lyttleton that can meet our requirements and go there. There is a heap of parking near the Wunderbar but not sure if they do food.

Oh and there is off course Little River and that can be got at from quite a few angles.

If I can think of any others I'll post them up.......

[phoenixgtr]

...and of course, just because Godley House is gone it doesnt mean we can't head into Diamond Harbour and back out to the Wheatsheaf (not that I was impressed with them last night).

...or just because Duvauchelles pub is gone it doesn't mean we can't head over there and back to the Little River pub (when there's a bit more light).

The pubs may be gone, but the roads are (mostly) still there to ride (minus Lyttleton side of Evans Pass and Old Tai Tap rd for the time being)

[SMOKEU]

OK........ I hear you.

What viable alternatives do you have?

Please remember that they must provide challanges and interest over a whole range of riding skills and ages. At this time of the year with only an hour or so of daylight and a pub or something at the other end to provide meals etc.

Please do not tell me what you don't like. Tell me what you do like and want to do.

With the state of our roads and venues we are limited.

Everyone please think about where we can go. Places like Oxford, Akaroa and Greta Valley need a longer period of daylight for safe riding. They are on the list for next month.

I was going to say Akaroa. At least the road over the hills there is in quite a good condition, with very few areas of gravel and few smooth spots over the roads. People also pour diesel on Summit road to do skids, which doesn't appear to be the case heading towards Akaroa.

[Transalper]

I enjoyed the run last night, I like the roads like this. :woohoo:
The size of the group is pretty impressive now days especially when viewed from a wee way down the line.

The only thing that pissed me off was a rookie move from someone sneaking up through my blind spot to appear on my left in my lane, in my escape zone.
This happened between Sumner and Red Cliffs.
Thought we'd fixed those problems, hadn't seen it happen in this group since the first year of WNRs.

It's a stupid move, just don't do it ! :angry:

If you had moved behind me where I could see you I would have noted your impatience and I'd have moved over to the left and dropped back from the slow car in front then waved you past on the correct side with no ill feeling as a result.
As it was I braked to drop behind you to get out of the lane sharing situation but you never got to pass the car anyway before it turned off on to another street to the right.

Pic: Sumner regroup, but not everyone.

[phoenixgtr]

Thought you might find this interesting. It's a photo of the Lyttleton side of Evans Pass

[Peeteey]

Alternatively continue on around the bays to Lyttleton and find a pub in Lyttleton that can meet our requirements and go there. There is a heap of parking near the Wunderbar but not sure if they do food.


I'm fairly sure that the Wonderbar, in fact the whole building apart from the wee place down stairs, is all closed, including the super market. Also the parking out back is Wilson Parking now, you gotta pay during the day, dunno about night ...
As for other places in Lyttelton, there are many pubs along Norwich Quay but they're all pretty seedy. Unless you're a hard core local or a Russian sailor that hasn't had his hit of vodka this morning, they're best to be sampled with caution ... :drinkup: :puke:

That being said, it's been a while since I was in one of them but they don't look to have changed at all ... You never know.

[Shadowjack]

[QUOTE=Transalper;1129877738]...a rookie move from someone sneaking up through my blind spot to appear on my left in my lane, in my escape zone...
/QUOTE]

Wasn't dressed in blue/orange hi-vis overalls?
Because then you missed the idiot (NOT part of the WNR - dressed in hi-viz blue/orange/reflectorised overalls) in the Tunnel, who, immediately as I came out of the Tunnel and headed around the roundabout, undertook me on the LEFT and continued on his way around the 'bout. Later, it turned out he had undertaken (i.e. on the left, again) another member of our party IN the Tunnel. He then continued on to harrass a green Ninja before blasting off into the distance. I hope there was a good reason for it all (and I can't think of one), and that the rider was not just late for dinner...

[Transalper]

Nope, was before we met that guy. Saw that one coming and got out of his way about quarter way through the tunnel and watched him doing all sorts stupid shit through to the exit including round you on round the roundabout but lost sight of him soon after, guessing he turned off.
Had contemplated following him to his destination then reporting it back here for all to know but no way of doing that without being as big a dickhead as he was to try keep up.
His antics were far worse than the rookie I was talking about who was with us.

[AxN]

Went to Lyttleton on Tuesday night and the Wunderbar was closed and is likely to be closed for awhile.

My route suggestion would be BK-Halswell-Tai Tapu-Gebbies-Dyers Pass Road-Brickworks for shorter rides. For longer rides, go around the bays, through Lyttleton tunnel, and then Centaurus road finish at Brickworks.

[BEAMER89]

Thanks for the great photo's pete:niceone: thats a nice one of me old Bmw

What a awesome ride l had last night with you guys, The old Bmw was humming along chassing the fast guys up the front:innocent:
Sorry l had to cut the ride short as it was getting late and l had to go up to the hospital to visit Mrs Beamer, but there's always next week:woohoo:.

[Gareth123]

Loving the pics Peetey. The mighty GL looks a tad small for me though doesn't it? Still, if you look really carefully, it snuck into 3 pictures :cool:

[Freespaceage]

Good to see you all had a great ride :woohoo:, we missed it unfortunately as my son's bike decided to have a breakdown on the way - starter motor packed up :angry: :shit:, took it straight to the shop and hopefully we can pick it up tomorrow for the Saturday ride.

[gloplg]

Loving the pics Peetey. The mighty GL looks a tad small for me though doesn't it? Still, if you look really carefully, it snuck into 3 pictures :cool:

I agree Great pics Pete thanks for coming into town and taking them!!!

A big thanks for those who have contributed ideas on where we ride. :yes::yes::2thumbsup:2thumbsup

I want you to know I appreciate your effort. Please continue to think and look for other routes and venues. When something looks good or promising please either let me or Flip know, or post your thoughts on this thread.

:mad::mad:To the person who appears in Transalpers post:spanking::spanking: If you want to play "silly buggers" go and do it somewhere else. Hereford Street/Cambridge Tce is a good place to be a wanker.:tugger::tugger: Not on a WNR.

[Mully Clown]

I'll put in a vote for the Tai Tapu Pub as well. It's a great place to end (or start) a ride.

What was with the regroup two blocks away from BK? Seems we were stopping more often than going.

[Flip]

Just want to point out one thing and its probably a Harley thing. When riding in staggered formation I don't or won't change from right to left wheel track or vice versa. I do expect that in staggered formation that a rider who is out of sink to move up or pull back to keep the gap between bikes on the same side of the road to 2 second and about a second gap to the bike diagonally in front. But only is staggered formation.

I like staggered formation in town, it keeps the overall length of the bike stream to a minimum, it means that a car can't pull out into the group and well it looks IMHO cool.

Pass the big fat grumpy old prick on the Harley on the left riding normally single file and well......

[neels]

What was with the regroup two blocks away from BK? Seems we were stopping more often than going.
Yeah, there was a bit of that last night. Good ride otherwise though, lots of new faces for me and not a lot of time to say hi turning up late as usual.

Another suggestion for somewhere we don't normally ride to, out to motukarara and around the lake to through leeston to wherever there's a pub that's still standing?

I even made a mappy thing (http://maps.google.co.nz/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=103363602247061090047.00049201bfdd2da7e9574&z=10)

Someone a bit more familiar with the roads out there might be able to comment if it's a really crap idea or not.

[gloplg]

I like staggered formation in town, it keeps the overall length of the bike stream to a minimum, it means that a car can't pull out into the group and well it looks IMHO cool.

Pass the big fat grumpy old prick on the Harley on the left riding normally single file and suffer the consequences.

I will second that.

[gloplg]

I'll put in a vote for the Tai Tapu Pub as well. It's a great place to end (or start) a ride.

What was with the regroup two blocks away from BK? Seems we were stopping more often than going.

There was an old fellow at the back, on an old Honda, who was afraid of getting lost.

OK!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think we will save Little River for later in the month, perhaps as a warm up for Akaroa.

I like RQ's idea and it seems I'm not the only one. How about:-

BK, Brougham, through the tube, round the bays, Gebbies, Blue Duck (Black Tulip), Tai Tap Pub.

When the Port side of Evans Pass Road is opened we could go over Evans Pass. I suggest we call this RQ's ride!!!!!!!!

What thinks everyone????

RQ will you please ring Tai Tap pub and let them know we are going to be there next WNR.

[Freespaceage]

There was an old fellow at the back, on an old Honda, who was afraid of getting lost.

OK!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think we will save Little River for later in the month, perhaps as a warm up for Akaroa.

I like RQ's idea and it seems I'm not the only one. How about:-

BK, Brougham, through the tube, round the bays, Gebbies, Blue Duck (Black Tulip), Tai Tap Pub.

When the Port side of Evans Pass Road is opened we could go over Evans Pass. I suggest we call this RQ's ride!!!!!!!!

What thinks everyone????

RQ will you please ring Tai Tap pub and let them know we are going to be there next WNR.

I think that's a great idea!:woohoo::yes::woohoo:

[Flip]

Got my vote for whats that worth.

[Aryaeil]

I second that. The same ride could be done going up and over Dyers Pass. You just end up a bit further along the bays. Both good alternatives I think.

[McWild]

He then continued on to harrass a green Ninja before blasting off into the distance. I hope there was a good reason for it all (and I can't think of one), and that the rider was not just late for dinner...

Yeah, he overtook me. Was riding like a tool, probably trying to impress everyone with his ability to overtake other bikes in 50k areas. Most impressive :tugger:

Thanks as always Pete for taking photos, they're fantastic! Keep taking lots more of me ahem.

And yeah it was a great ride, really enjoyable, cheers for the warning of the cops too. Wasn't actually doing anything wrong, but the sentiment is appreciated as I most likely will be in about a month or so.

Great turnout, great weather, great company. Didn't bother with the wheatie as Dyer's is more fun when you can see what you're doing. See you all next week, the route sounds mint.

[SpeedMonger]

Was an interesting ride last night, especially following Mr Plod round the summit rd. He crossed the white line many times on corners, not a great look for the establishment.

The frequent stops are disruptive with such a large group. I reckon that there should only be one stop per ride, otherwise is is just too slow and messy. The riders are strung out enough that everyone should be able to see someone up ahead.

And as GP suggested on the night perhaps split the ride into two groups, one for those who know where they are going and like to go at a good pace, and a second cruisier group to follow with a leader and tec. This should cause a little less friction in the pack.

[Gibbo89]

I understand why there are stops, as some do not know the ins and outs of the route. two groups may solve the problem, but when do you know when to have two groups? when there is 30 bikes or more? food for thought i guess...

at least we have a headache over this, and not battling for popularity.

great ride though, as said above, the summit road was not the best (first time i have done it that way on a bike). But the proposed alternative routes look good, if i ever have a light bulb go off in my head over a another good route then i will voice it here.

cheers for a good ride.

p.s i never noticed the cop thing, or the fella undertaking (i didn't think i was that far behind)!

[Flip]

It's always impossible to get a big bunch of bikes through town without them becoming fragmented. I kind of like the idea of a regroup outside town then another about 2/3rd the way through the run. On the last Hog run in Auckland I (and the other road captains) took 1200 bikes through the city on the "Thunder Run". I found that a little nerve racking.

With regards to the newer riders, keep in mind that we oldies are on good quality bikes, we know where we are going, we know the not only the rules but how to behave, we know how to ride fast safely but also how to ride in a group and we also have a level of confidence in the riding skills of the other oldies around us. I for one would not be riding with this group if I did not have a level of respect in all your collective ability.

Have you ever noticed how quickly we sort out folk who do not treat us with the same respect we treat them with. (Hi Gordie you still out there!)

It must be bloody nerve racking for a beginner coming with us for the first time. Take RetroQueen I have never been able to keep up with her, no sir not ever. Or Glowplug, he potters along on the easy roads but the moment he gets on the summit road he opens a can of woop ass and passes everybody, well thats what he does with me. I wish this group was around 30+ years ago when I was learning to ride, I would have learned a lot riding with us as a beginner, not just how to ride but how to act around bikers, but like all beginners at the time I did not know what I had to learn. These days I expect a "boot up the ass" when I do some thing wrong but I also expect to be given the chance to learn from the experience. :scooter:

[helenoftroy]

It's always impossible to get a big bunch of bikes through town without them becoming fragmented. I kind of like the idea of a regroup outside town then another about 2/3rd the way through the run. On the last Hog run in Auckland I (and the other road captains) took 1200 bikes through the city on the "Thunder Run". I found that a little nerve racking.

With regards to the newer riders, keep in mind that we oldies are on good quality bikes, we know where we are going, we know the not only the rules but how to behave, we know how to ride fast safely but also how to ride in a group and we also have a level of confidence in the riding skills of the other oldies around us. I for one would not be riding with this group if I did not have a level of respect in all your collective ability.

Have you ever noticed how quickly we sort out folk who do not treat us with the same respect we treat them with. (Hi Gordie you still out there!)

It must be bloody nerve racking for a beginner coming with us for the first time. Take RetroQueen I have never been able to keep up with her, no sir not ever. Or Glowplug, he potters along on the easy roads but the moment he gets on the summit road he opens a can of woop ass and passes everybody, well thats what he does with me. I wish this group was around 30+ years ago when I was learning to ride, I would have learned a lot riding with us as a beginner, not just how to ride but how to act around bikers, but like all beginners at the time I did not know what I had to learn. These days I expect a "boot up the ass" when I do some thing wrong but I also expect to be given the chance to learn from the experience. :scooter:

Flip! we love ya!:hug: you say it the way it is....:yes:

Its truly awesome the turnout only the second week of the season and we are having a real mix of abilities and bikes turning up,I think its an awesome thing for the newbies and if they stick with it they will learn heaps!

I like Hornets idea of two groups if the numbers are getting up and less regroups while its still early season and getting dark early(Im not good in the dark!:devil2:)

Words need to be said regarding the riding described by Transalper,totally not on

I love Petes shots - he captures the whole essence of this bike-riding thing that we do

[Gibbo89]

As one of the learners, I benefit from these rides even when we use the same stretch of road quite, like the Summit road. It may not be in the best condition, but I notice myself knowing where I can open her up a bit more then I used to, and still being extra cautious on a few hairier corners.

The first ride up the Summit road, Glowplug shot passed me and sat in front of me, which in turn helped me with my lines through the corners and has helped me no end. It is good to know that people like him are willing to help the new folk out, and if I did want a hand with the run we were planning on doing then I know I can go to him and ask for him to lead me through certain parts of the ride.

If the person who was undertaking transalper was a newbie, my guess is that they do not know the 'town formation' rules and that there is basically no passing and to stick to staggered formation as best you can.

I think that the only way I found out about the town etiquette was stumbling across it on here (maybe one phoenixgtr's post for the WNR last summer?).

It could be too late now Glowplug, but perhaps re editing your original post and mentioning the preferred way we travel through town may help? Just a suggestion, may not be too relevant now as many people probably do not go back and read it unless you are brand new to the WNR, maybe it would be beneficial... who knows?!

I am also of the opinion that a 'middle man' is handy when going through town as some may get lost if the lights separate the middle portion of the group and the person now 'leading' that group may not be too sure of where we are heading exactly. Obviously they can pull over and wave the next person on... but what if that person does not know either?? :gob:

Just an idea anyway. :shutup:

Anyway, so thanks for the ride on Wed, hoping there are many more warm evening ahead of us. And cheers to those that help the new fullas out.

[Flip]

There are two things the Hog boys do.

1 is you are the last person in broken up group but not the TEC and the ride turns off the road you are on you pull over and show the first person in the next group where the ride has gone.

2 If you are leading a broken up group and you don't know where you are going pull over, wave the group through and rejoin at the end and let the next person lead. Having said that some of the best rides I have ever been on we have been lost.

If you are a learner and you are riding with me or Mr Plug, we will take the lead in this case automatically. But be aware that Mr Plug does's not take hints well.

:scooter::scooter::scooter::scooter::scooter::scoo ter::scooter::scooter::scooter::scooter::scooter:: scooter:

[Flip]

I'm on leave today. Building a extension on the Garage. I want to go for a ride but need to pick up a couple more lengths of 4x2, and I need it in 5m lengths so can't cut it in half and carry it in the chair. Ummmmmmmmm:confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused::confused: what to do what to do?

[neels]

All fine sentiments expressed above.

Given the numbers that are turning up, it might help to post up the planned route for the ride a day or two in advance (seeing as it's often decided in the pub after the ride anyway), and repost it a couple of times if it gets lost in the general banter (or drivel, if you prefer). Not everybody will see it but at least a reasonable number will know where they are going so the pulling over if you're lost theory should work, and I like the idea of the last of one bunch waiting for the first of the next, then the idea of one decent stop for everybody to catch up rather than a heap of short ones would work.

I agree that overtaking in town is unhelpful, and keeping a resonable formation makes it easier for everybody and the other traffic and looks awesome from the back. Once out of town however, if you know where you're going and want to go then go, I have no problem with people passing the leader and riding at their own pace, as long as they know where they're going and others don't end up looking for them.

We have to be careful this doesn't get to the point that we have to organise the fun out of it.

I think that might have been more than 2c, I blame inflation and increased GST.

[neels]

I'm on leave today. Building a extension on the Garage. I want to go for a ride but need to pick up a couple more lengths of 4x2, and I need it in 5m lengths so can't cut it in half and carry it in the chair. Ummmmmmmmm:confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused::confused: what to do what to do?
Go for a ride and finish the garage tomorrow :scooter::scooter:

[Transalper]

Flip do u need a van?

[Flip]

Who me? No thanks I have a ute with a roof rack.

Thanks

[Transalper]

The people who want to go fast have always been invited to go ahead.

The undertake only really became an undertake when I braked to drop back out of the lane sharing situation which had developed behind a slow car when a rider appeared beside me on my left, dropped back a bit and then reappeared on my left half a minute latter so I assumed he was looking to pass.
Well that just gave us opportunity for a timely reminder for everyone that lane sharing and undertaking is not cool. I think that's done now. :done:

One non riding advantage of splitting the group would be that the Pub or destination should be able to handle the service better if we are spread out instead of all at once although I don't think we all arrive at once now anyway.:corn:

The issue of people getting separated thus finding themselves in front of a smaller group without knowing the way is a good one. Several of the suggestions above should go a long way to solving it.
I usually ride in the back quarter of the group (partly because i like the view back there) but usually know the way pretty well. I have no problem stopping through the lights etc if I get through where others haven't but haven't generally bothered unless I know the next person is unsure of the way.

[gloplg]

Thanks for all the feedback guys. I believe it gives us all something to think about.

In future I will post the route several times during the week. I will use some of the nice features of the thread formatting that I have recently discovered, ie large and coloured print, as highlights.

Because of the variety of skill levels, riding styles and different types of bikes, not everyone is going to be satisfied with all of the rides.

When a ride is posted that you find you do not like YOU have the option not to go. You could ride somewhere else, take the dog for a walk. Nobody is forcing you to ride anywhere, so don't!!!!!

[gloplg]

The route for next WNR




BK, Brougham, through the tube, round the bays, Gebbies, Blue Duck (Black Tulip), Tai Tap Pub.

When the Port side of Evans Pass Road is opened we could go over Evans Pass. I suggest we call this RQ's ride!!!!!!!!

RQ will you please ring Tai Tap pub and let them know we are going to be there next WNR.

Does that stand out enough????????

[cruza]

Thanks for all the feedback guys. I believe it gives us all something to think about.

In future I will post the route several times during the week. I will use some of the nice features of the thread formatting that I have recently discovered, ie large and coloured print, as highlights.

Because of the variety of skill levels, riding styles and different types of bikes, not everyone is going to be satisfied with all of the rides.

When a ride is posted that you find you do not like YOU have the option not to go. You could ride somewhere else, take the dog for a walk. Nobody is forcing you to ride anywhere, so don't!!!!!

eye eye captain gloplug.

[Flip]

Now its only a suggestion so you don't have to yell in yellow GP, why not post this weeks route on Post number one and you won't have to repeat yourself.

[SpeedMonger]

eye eye captain gloplug.

Where have you been chap, coming along next week?

[Spuds1234]

The route for next WNR

My eyes they bleed.

[Flip]

My eyes they bleed.

Any bigger and I will be able to read the information without my glasses.

[cruza]

Where have you been chap, coming along next week?

just depends on what time i get away from work , been late finish's last 2 weeks , and not enough time to make the starting grid.

[SpeedMonger]

SUGGESTION

The ride last week showed up a potential problem with the TEC concept, there were a few frustrated faces at Sumner because no one had any idea what was going on back up the hill.

My suggestion, is to ensure that the TEC and Leader have some form of communication, whether it is Cell phone or walkie talkie etc., so that in the event of a breakdown, the TEC can advise the leader of the problem. They can then make a decision to carry on, or to nominate another person who knows the route to either lead the ride or to remain behind at the catch-up point to pick up any stragglers until the TEC arrives.

Does that make sense? Does to me . This way the momentum of the ride is maintained, and the catch up point is manned / womaned with someone that act as leader for those late arrivals.:yes:

[Dave-]

Ok i can resume leadership role from this week and for most of summer I'd imagine.

[neels]

Ok i can resume leadership role from this week and for most of summer I'd imagine.
Shit, was I that bad? :gob:

To be fair, most of last weeks issues were due to people that had turned up not legal worried about a checkpoint. I guess if people want to bail out for any reason the thing to do would be to pull over and wait for TEC and let them know that you're not continuing, then at least they are still TEC and when they reach the next regroup everyone can carry on.

One of the harder bits at the moment is finding a regroup point that's got enough space for the numbers that are turning up.

[gloplg]

Shit, was I that bad? :gob:

To be fair, most of last weeks issues were due to people that had turned up not legal worried about a checkpoint. I guess if people want to bail out for any reason the thing to do would be to pull over and wait for TEC and let them know that you're not continuing, then at least they are still TEC and when they reach the next regroup everyone can carry on.

One of the harder bits at the moment is finding a regroup point that's got enough space for the numbers that are turning up.

Yes I agree with Neels and hear what Mr Net is saying.

The leaders we have are great and I think they are doing a very good job. I regret that people were held up at Sumner last WNR, that was mostly my fault.

The communication issue will be sorted. Thanks Mr Net for the suggestions.

Anyone leaving the ride for any reason, it would be nice to inform the TEC, however I realise that is not always possible.

To everyone who rides with WNR.

Please assume that your bike may be checked by :Police::Police:at BK before we leave on the ride. Therefore if your bike isn't street legal, ENSURE that it becomes so before your next WNR!!!!!!!

Please remember we sometimes have a:Police:or:Police::Police:riding with us!!!!!!!!!!!

[Spuds1234]

Therefore if your bike isn't street legal, ENSURE that it becomes so before your next WNR!!!!!!!

But that would be responsible and completely against the rebellious biker image that Im trying to portray.

[neels]

To everyone who rides with WNR.

Please assume that your bike may be checked by :Police::Police:at BK before we leave on the ride. Therefore if your bike isn't street legal, ENSURE that it becomes so before your next WNR!!!!!!!

Please remember we sometimes have a:Police:or:Police::Police:riding with us!!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe......


It's really up to the individual if they want to come for a ride and take their chances with the :Police:, I have on occasion ridden not completely legal for reasons various and irrelevant to the conversation. But if you're not going to continue on a group ride for legal/mechanical/electrical/philisophical reasons I would think the decent thing to do is to park up until TEC turns up and let them know, so you're not fucking 30+ other people around wondering where the hell you've got to.



But that would be responsible and completely against the rebellious biker image that Im trying to portray.
Responsibility is overrated, just remember growing older is compulsory, growing up is optional :Punk:

[Gibbo89]

Please assume that your bike may be checked by :Police::Police:at BK before we leave on the ride. Therefore if your bike isn't street legal, ENSURE that it becomes so before your next WNR!!!!!!!

do coppers check rego? i assume quite a few riders will have their rego on hold...


Please remember we sometimes have a:Police:or:Police::Police:riding with us!!!!!!!!!!!

does that mean on a bike? or a cop in a car following?

[helenoftroy]

But that would be responsible and completely against the rebellious biker image that Im trying to portray.
Absolutely! me too!:Punk:


Responsibility is overrated, just remember growing older is compulsory, growing up is optional :Punk:
Thats me!:yes:

[Mully Clown]

do coppers check rego? i assume quite a few riders will have their rego on hold...

does that mean on a bike? or a cop in a car following?
Coppers can pull you over and check your rego. Riding with a held rego is likely to have similar (or harsher) penalties than an expired rego.

As for the cops. My guess is that some of them like to ride bikes in their spare time, that might include Wednesday evenings. It would be quite neat to get an actual bike cop along one time though.

[Gibbo89]

Coppers can pull you over and check your rego. Riding with a held rego is likely to have similar (or harsher) penalties than an expired rego.

As for the cops. My guess is that some of them like to ride bikes in their spare time, that might include Wednesday evenings. It would be quite neat to get an actual bike cop along one time though.

maybe one time...

[gloplg]

does that mean on a bike? or a cop in a car following?

Yes .......... :scooter::scooter::ride::ride:

[Gibbo89]

Yes .......... :scooter::scooter::ride::ride:

that is a shame...

[gloplg]

:Police:
that is a shame...

Think about it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If we have members of :Police::Police: riding with us on their time off and not involving us in their working life, it means we are not high on the law's hit list.

The:Police:will leave us alone unless we do something to draw attention to ourselves, lots of accidents, a lot of bikes not street legal, WNR members breaking road laws etc.

Do you want :Police: looking over our shoulder all the time?????(Shut up Garry) Endeth preaching!!!!!

Anyway Neels is working on a ride around Lake Ellesmere out towards Rolleston/Dunsandel.

Phoenixgtr has suggested a number of options which make a lot of sense.

Mr Net came up with some good ideas.

And of course we have Petra's ride which we are doing this week.

Please keep the ideas coming folks.

[Gibbo89]

:Police:

Think about it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If we have members of :Police::Police: riding with us on their time off and not involving us in their working life, it means we are not high on the law's hit list.

The:Police:will leave us alone unless we do something to draw attention to ourselves, lots of accidents, a lot of bikes not street legal, WNR members breaking road laws etc.

Do you want :Police: looking over our shoulder all the time?????(Shut up Garry) Endeth preaching!!!!!

yeah Garry, some good points. but 250's (quite a few last week i might add) are always going to draw attention if they are hauling ass through the country roads though (i'd rather see a learner do 100kph than 70 on most 100k speed limit roads personaly. of course a lot are going to be on their restricted. and some old bikes probably have their rego's on hold permanently (especially if it is just a bike that gets a couple of runs a month)

i hope no one takes a note pad on the wnr. :spanking:

[Dave-]

yeah Garry, some good points. but 250's (quite a few last week i might add) are always going to draw attention if they are hauling ass through the country roads though (i'd rather see a learner do 100kph than 70 on most 100k speed limit roads personaly. of course a lot are going to be on their restricted. and some old bikes probably have their rego's on hold permanently (especially if it is just a bike that gets a couple of runs a month)

i hope no one takes a note pad on the wnr. :spanking:

as far as the 70 in a 100 goes, and even the out after curfew (later in the season) let me talk to the officer, he'll understand.

[Flip]

We really do not want anything to do with the Rozza on the WNR OK! It is however important that people turn up with safe bikes (Hi Gordie you still out there).

Good idea that the leader and the TEC know how to contact each other, its harder in practice to do because I you can't hear or talk on the phone while riding.

It was also me that stopped to help out the young guy on the rough Yamahaha last ride and I was not the TEC. I usually carry tools and heaps of shit to help out, and I won't go past anybody who has broken down or has a worse problem be you on 2 wheels or more.

It's going to be more and more difficult to get everybody through the ride together as the numbers grow. Does it really matter if the ride takes a bit longer or is it more important that nobody is left broken down on the side of the road?

[Dave-]

I think the idea has been discussed before, but if by 6:15 this week we have 20-25 bikes I'll lead a 6:15 ride and then someone else can lead the 6:30 ride or visa versa.

[Subike]

We really do not want anything to do with the Rozza on the WNR OK! It is however important that people turn up with safe bikes (Hi Gordie you still out there

I usually carry tools and heaps of shit to help out, and I won't go past anybody who has broken down or has a worse problem .Does it really matter if the ride takes a bit longer or is it more important that nobody is left broken down on the side of the road?

Compliance with the registration laws is personal choice, it is not a saftey issue, but riding a bike that is UP TO WOF std min is a saftey issue, IMO, that should be the only requirement for these rides.:angry:

Being in a such a large group does increase the possibility of breakdowns, thus having some of us available to help when this happens is a bonus, Flip your beasty is perfect for this, a mobile tool box??? So maybee if anyone with mechanical knowlage who is inclined to help with breakdowns, ride with or near Flip. Dont you just love old school practical....:woohoo:

As for the time the ride takes to complete..... Its the ride, not the destionation that should be the object of the event. :blink:
I agree that some do want to pin the throttle, clench the butt cheeks, challenge the road rules, hurtle into the corners, boost their egos by going at speeds others would not entertain, and thats OK, We just let them go first and hope we dont have to pick up the bitts .:facepalm:

Learners? OK it is good that we have the learners with us, as that is part of the reason for the WNR is it not?
So yes they are required by the law to restrict their speed to 70kph on the open road, IMO, having these riders mentored with experianced riders who are prepared to sit with them would allow them to ride safley at 100kph. It would be a sadfaced plod who deamed different.:innocent:

The comment that 250 and under machines would attract the wrath of the laws to our group I think is unjustified. there are plenty of 250 crusers that dont look like 250's and 350-400 sprot/naked mahines that do look lke 250's. Its the behaviour that attracts the plod, not the bike. So as long as we are orderly and well behaved ( which we are most of the time) then our WNF should have no incidents.

Communication between the leader and the TEC will always be a problem, I think that there could be a place for some in the middle of the pack to assume the position of keeping the ride on course by stopping at major road direction changes as discussed in an earlier post by Flip.

I enjoy my WNR always do, I would hate to see it become a regulated, rule laden, ride ....... Its the freedom from authority that makes this ride so good, the fact that everybody can and does have a say comfortably about the rides, that we share the "outlaw" that is hidden in each one of us. If we wanted rules.... then go ride with the %^#@ clubs.

See you all Wed for Petra's ride!

[gloplg]

I agree with what Flip and Subike have posted!!!!

My desire is to have as little as possible for :Police::Police:to pick on us about. The more we comply with the law the less grounds:Police:has to be picky. If we are stopped, how can we defend someone whose bike has no reg or wof . Nobody can!!!!

However if someone is doing 90 to 100 Ks on a restricted licence, or is out after curfew, I think this is a different matter. I believe as part of our group there would be a lot of leeway given.

Please ............. get your bikes street legal, that way we can look after you better if stopped by:Police:

Leaders and TECs? Texting when delays or problems occur?

SB your mention of midpack riders guiding at major changes of direction and at other points in the ride. Anybody who wants to contribute with this or anything else should go for it ........ PLEASE.

Better organised regroups, communication between leader and tec, a second group where needed. What else???????

[Freespaceage]

I agree with the comments posted by all so far.

Speaking as a L-plater on a measly 250, it is really appreciated when an experienced rider takes us under their wing and allows us to follow them through the ride and especially the corners so that we can learn the lines, brake points, entry speeds etc. Generally we have not been on most of these roads on a bike, so they are quite new to us. Glo, Flip and Max have been exemplary so far, being prepared to slow down and lead us. In fact most of the bikers we have been on a ride with have imparted a few words of wisdom! :yes: and have been willing to assist where possible. Constructive criticism is always welcome. At the same time, we do not want to hold back any of the experienced riders, but these rides are the perfect place and opportunity to improve our riding skills and learn how to ride better and safer and at the same time learn the etiquette of riding with the group.

Perhaps we should also have a few allocated "mentors" on every ride that are prepared to show us "learners" the way?

[gloplg]

I agree with the comments posted by all so far.

Speaking as a L-plater on a measly 250, it is really appreciated when an experienced rider takes us under their wing and allows us to follow them through the ride and especially the corners so that we can learn the lines, brake points, entry speeds etc. Generally we have not been on most of these roads on a bike, so they are quite new to us. Glo, Flip and Max have been exemplary so far, being prepared to slow down and lead us. In fact most of the bikers we have been on a ride with have imparted a few words of wisdom! :yes: and have been willing to assist where possible. Constructive criticism is always welcome. At the same time, we do not want to hold back any of the experienced riders, but these rides are the perfect place and opportunity to improve our riding skills and learn how to ride better and safer and at the same time learn the etiquette of riding with the group.

Perhaps we should also have a few allocated "mentors" on every ride that are prepared to show us "learners" the way?

Well said.............

[Flip]

Well I for one are happy to do a U turn and fuck off if we are pulled over in bulk by the rozza. Always wanted to be pulled over in this case and explain I am the designated decoy........

[SpeedMonger]

I hope all you old farts enjoyed watching Bathurst today. :spanking: Had a great ride over the hill today, with Mr C, and even met Mully Clown over the hill.

I appreciate Subikes sentiments of minimum rules, and that it is the ride that is important, and that is why there just need to be a couple of things in place to keep the momentum of the ride going, thereby preventing people from going "troppo" and / or awol in the process - as happened last week.

If I have a breakdown, or an off (heaven forbid), then I would not want to hold up the ride, but I would hope that there would be some assistance rendered as well, even if it was just to check that AA was on it's way, or transport to somewhere with phone reception ( something often lacking in the hills), and most importantly getting medical help if needed.

I give my highest commendation to GloPlg aka GP, your dedication and commitment to making the WNR a success deserves respect - even when you use such vertigo inducing fonts ;):niceone:

[Dave-]

Well I for one are happy to do a U turn and fuck off if we are pulled over in bulk by the rozza. Always wanted to be pulled over in this case and explain I am the designated decoy........

they're only going to do it once or twice, much more and it's harassment.

I wouldn't worry too much about it guys, they'd effectively have to close a road to check everyone.

[phoenixgtr]

Yawn...

I tire of all this jibber jabber. All anyone wants from these rides is...well...a ride, on an interesting road, with other riders, to a destination, where they can talk shit with said other riders. When you complicate it too much people get frustrated. We've tried things in the past for various reasons, but in the end people just want to go for a ride.

As for the cops you only need to worry about them if you're doing something wrong and if you get stopped and you were doing something wrong then that's your problem, not the group. We've had rumours and even threats of the cops coming along and putting a dampner on things since the beginning of these rides. The police know about them, we've even had a few come along for a ride (off duty). Three years of them leaving us alone would suggest they're not concerned about us and they won't be, as long as we are sensible.

Whew... gonna need a beer after that one

[helenoftroy]

Yawn...

I tire of all this jibber jabber. All anyone wants from these rides is...well...a ride, on an interesting road, with other riders, to a destination, where they can talk shit with said other riders. When you complicate it too much people get frustrated. We've tried things in the past for various reasons, but in the end people just want to go for a ride.

As for the cops you only need to worry about them if you're doing something wrong and if you get stopped and you were doing something wrong then that's your problem, not the group. We've had rumours and even threats of the cops coming along and putting a dampner on things since the beginning of these rides. The police know about them, we've even had a few come along for a ride (off duty). Three years of them leaving us alone would suggest they're not concerned about us and they won't be, as long as we are sensible.

Whew... gonna need a beer after that one

Well said young one!

Totally agree:yes:

[cruza]

I hope all you old farts enjoyed watching Bathurst today. :spanking: Had a great ride over the hill today, with Mr C, and even met Mully Clown over the hill.


Was pretty good aye:yes: . Traffic wasn't heavy and not a lot of people in akaroa either. Sad to see our local stop off on wnr ride with fences round it and lots of structual damage.

Seems to be alot of p/d last few pages .........

[maxf]

Always wanted to be pulled over in this case and explain I am the designated decoy........

Ahhh - like Chris Farley in Coneheads? Just don't crash after the first 20 feet (but he was on a Hog too).

Also - just an idea, I know Phoenix will want me to keep it short lest he tire unduly - would it be worth thinking of a formalized two wave approach for the WNR? eg

First wave are the fasties/advanced who may decide to do without a TEC
Second wave are the slowies / cruisers/ learners with a TEC.
Same destination
Possibly different paths depending on difficulty
Still plenty of time to gasbag before departure and at destination :woohoo:

Also gives some degree of riders choosing what's right for them on the night, but then noone feels as if they're in the wrong bunch and we all get a good ride... might also break up the group size a bit if we keep on getting the great turnouts.

(Go on, shoot me down now....:facepalm::facepalm::shit:)

Whoops - Dave CAN shoot me down now, he's already suggested the core of this. Must have tuned out with all the discussions on the pros/cons of the Hot Fuzz.

[SMOKEU]

they're only going to do it once or twice, much more and it's harassment.

I wouldn't worry too much about it guys, they'd effectively have to close a road to check everyone.

The cops don't see it as harassment when they set up checkpoints at the same spot every week in an ordinary residential area.

[FJRider]

The cops don't see it as harassment when they set up checkpoints at the same spot every week in an ordinary residential area.

And ... those that have been hit by a drunk driver ... or know somebody who has ... dont see it as harassment either ...

[Gareth123]

And ... those that have been hit by a drunk driver ... or know somebody who has ... dont see it as harassment either ...

:yes::yes::yes::yes::yes:

[helenoftroy]

............... let me talk to the officer, he'll understand.

:Oops::chase:

...and you did and saved me!!:facepalm:

My hero:hug:

[Dave-]

The cops don't see it as harassment when they set up checkpoints at the same spot every week in an ordinary residential area.

judge will though.

but it wont come to that cause they're simply not going to pull over 50 well behaved, registered, warrented, sober riders just to check them.

logic dictates the best way to check the ride out would be to just come along, which they've done many times, neither the police or we had any concerns.

the only thing that might possibly happen would be a random encounter where plod pulls up a learner/restricted rider who's broken from the main group on their way home, anyone with concerns about this feel free to aproach me and I'll ride home with you as a "guide".

there we go, all police related matters delt with.

weather's looking alrightish for this wednesday huh? I prefer to ride overcast, shadows are shit.

[Gibbo89]

the only thing that might possibly happen would be a random encounter where plod pulls up a learner/restricted rider who's broken from the main group on their way home, anyone with concerns about this feel free to aproach me and I'll ride home with you as a "guide".

are you gifted with the art of persuasion? or do you just 'put out'? :shit:

[SMOKEU]

I might make an appearance this Wednesday, weather permitting.

[Dave-]

are you gifted with the art of persuasion? or do you just 'put out'? :shit:

neither, I just treat them with respect and they've always given it back.

[Subike]

neither, I just treat them with respect and they've always given it back.

Your 100% correct there Dave.
From personal experiances, both side of the track, your first approach to the plod when you get stopped by them dictates the result.
You come across as a smart ass, know it all, or an agressive person, expect a ticket.
Come across humble and polite, then a discussion will follow with a higher probability of being warned.
If you think you have a story or excuse that will change the event from the facts, just remeber they deal with offenders 24/7, do you think they have not heard the story before?
As Dave has said, If the police were concerned about our rides then they would hassel us into oblivion, just as they are the Boy Racers.
But we have the appearance of a well behaved group, have recieved good feedback from the public, the pubs we visit always welcome us as a group of well behaved people....remember the police will only act upon complaints from the public.
And the police know that we assist learners with real training, teaching them good riding habits, good safe riding skills, so why distroy a good thing.
We try to educate all our riders on the safest ways to get places at a good pace with saftey being the first rule.
Like stated before, if the police really wanted to target any of us they would do it on our return rides from the destination, when they are more likley to catch some riding a bit more loose.

We operate a good road healty ride, lets keep it that way and enjoy the ride...:scooter:

[Gibbo89]

neither, I just treat them with respect and they've always given it back.

oh yeah. i thought you had a 'trick' so to speak. most cops are treated with respect, (especially if you are breaking a license rule). Doesn't mean you get let off though. If you get given a warning then that's a great bonus! :yes:

[Dave3362]

Sorry folks.. Wont be along this wednesday.. The bike is still flooding so cant ride it till i sort out why.. and Im not a very good passenger

[gloplg]

Yawn...

I tire of all this jibber jabber. All anyone wants from these rides is...well...a ride, on an interesting road, with other riders, to a destination, where they can talk shit with said other riders. When you complicate it too much people get frustrated. We've tried things in the past for various reasons, but in the end people just want to go for a ride.


Well said young one!

Totally agree:yes:

OK so while we are encouraging and inviting the hords of the unWOFed and the unREGed to join our rides lets look at one practical aspect of having them there. As they are unwofed and or unreged they will be uninsurable.

Tristan, late last WNR season you had a coming together with one of our regular riders. My understanding is that he did the honourable thing and his insurance covered the damage to your bike. Had you been punted by someone uninsurable the chances are they would have run, taking all their mates with them. Repairs to your bike??????

Helen early December 2008 on the way to the Wheatsheaf you, along with several others, had a very near miss. Had you had been punted into the shrubery on your Blue Duke whose insurance would have covered your repairs.

A lot of the unWOFed and unReged are likely to be occasional riders with little bike knowledge and less skills, coupled with the belief that their name is Valentino Rossi or Jorge Lorenzo. This will tend make them interesting (dangerous) riding companions. I'm very glad to be at the back of the pack and out of the potential carnage.

I think those of our regulars who ride in the middle of the pack will need to check their insurance policies to see if their covered for being punted by Rossie/Lorenzo clones.

If one of the uninsurables punts one of our regulars, then our regular's insurance will cover their damage. But what about no claims bonus, and future premiums? Not to mention the harrasment of not having a bike while repairs are being made.

Yes I know. It's all highly unlikely, a figment of my overactive imagination. All humans are lovable, honest, responsible, honourable............. Nobody would run like hell, along with all their mates, if they punted someone off their bike..........Would they...............................Would they????????

But then again ....... What would I know ..............

[Subike]

Just to let you know Gloplg, a bike that is not registered can still carry insurance, if you check out your own insurance company they will require you to have a WOF. The WOF is that a WOF.. saftey .
Registration is only the tax to use it on the road. this has been discussed at lenght in other threads.
If your bike is not up to WOF specs, at the time of the incident, yet carries a WOF , and the accedent was directly caused by an unwarrentable item... then your insurance will not cover you even if you have cover. It is your responcibility to keep it in WOF condition.
If your bike is up to WOF spec, and you have an incident, but is not reg...the insurance will pay out.
Again Reg is just a tax ...not a saftey issue

[gloplg]

Just to let you know Gloplg, a bike that is not registered can still carry insurance, if you check out your own insurance company they will require you to have a WOF. The WOF is that a WOF.. saftey .
Registration is only the tax to use it on the road. this has been discussed at lenght in other threads.
If your bike is not up to WOF specs, at the time of the incident, yet carries a WOF , and the accedent was directly caused by an unwarrentable item... then your insurance will not cover you even if you have cover. It is your responcibility to keep it in WOF condition.
If your bike is up to WOF spec, and you have an incident, but is not reg...the insurance will pay out.
Again Reg is just a tax ...not a saftey issue

Ok thanks I hear you.

Think about it though, would a Rossi/Lorenzo clone who doesn't want to pay a road tax, have insurance???????

[cruza]

Reckon you should get off your soap box about now glowplug.

[Gibbo89]

The route for next WNR

BK, Brougham, through the tube, round the bays, Gebbies, Blue Duck (Black Tulip), Tai Tap Pub.

When the Port side of Evans Pass Road is opened we could go over Evans Pass. I suggest we call this RQ's ride!!!!!!!!


Edit: i made a bit of a fuck up on that post.:facepalm:

[gloplg]

This weeks ride:-




BK, Brougham, through the tube, round the bays, Gebbies, Blue Duck (Black Tulip), Tai Tap Pub.


Reckon you should get off your soap box about now glowplug.

Aye aye Cap'n Cruza:rofl::rofl:


thought id give this a wee bump.

Hmmmmmmmmmmm

[Dave-]

Yes I know. It's all highly unlikely, a figment of my overactive imagination. All humans are lovable, honest, responsible, honourable............. Nobody would run like hell, along with all their mates, if they punted someone off their bike..........Would they...............................Would they????????

But then again ....... What would I know ..............


they'd have to outrun me...

[E Ashmore]

I am happy to lead the second half of the people coming along, I don't go that fast...

[helenoftroy]

I am happy to lead the second half of the people coming along, I don't go that fast...

...of course you dont!:msn-wink:

Hope I have a bike to ride by Wednesday....:scooter:

[Dave-]

...of course you dont!:msn-wink:

no really he doesn't....like seriously it's embarrassing....

*under breath* oh fuck he's doing 40 again...

[E Ashmore]

no really he doesn't....like seriously it's embarrassing....

*under breath* oh fuck he's doing 40 again...

I hate you dave, Your always picking on me!

[maxf]

I hate you dave, Your always picking on me!

U wanna borrow a GPS and make sure you're speedo is reading right? :innocent::innocent: I don't think they have underspeed warnings, though... :yes:

(That used to be my excuse, until I got one and calibrated the damn thing - 12kmh slow... Now if I'm an old slow fart, it's because it's my choice, dammit!)

[Dave-]

U wanna borrow a GPS and make sure you're speedo is reading right? :innocent::innocent: I don't think they have underspeed warnings, though... :yes:

(That used to be my excuse, until I got one and calibrated the damn thing - 12kmh slow... Now if I'm an old slow fart, it's because it's my choice, dammit!)

he just needs more track time.

[SpeedMonger]

Sorry folks.. Wont be along this wednesday.. The bike is still flooding so cant ride it till i sort out why.. and Im not a very good passenger

That's no good, hope you get her sorted out soon :scooter:

[Flip]

Well I am going to be really slow this week, new tyre time for me.

Ummmmmmmm the smell of new rubber.........

Post 883, OK its a harley thing.

[Dave-]

Post 883, OK its a harley thing.

half of a cubic foot.

I dont think it's a harley thing, more an obscure measurement system...

[E Ashmore]

Well I am going to be really slow this week, new tyre time for me.

Ummmmmmmm the smell of new rubber.........

Post 883, OK its a harley thing.

New tyre means you have to go really fast and try to drift! So you can scrub it in faster.:woohoo:

[KiwiPhoenix]

New tyre means you have to go really fast and try to drift! So you can scrub it in faster.:woohoo:

Now that I would like to see!! :gob:

[Shadowjack]

Well I am going to be really slow this week, new tyre time for me.

Me, too...
Spooky.
883 posts, eh? Very sporting of you!

[Transalper]

Well I am going to be really slow this week, new tyre time for me.

Ummmmmmmm the smell of new rubber.........

Post 883, OK its a harley thing.

Ha ha, you obviously talk far too much..... woops, 2505 :facepalm: I'm starting to sound more like a big car or creeping up to an inline 6 at least.

[cruza]

Note at work today saying , evans pass on the lyttelton side is hoped to be open to normal traffic on the 14/10/10 . Fingers crossed. Not sure how good the road surface will be thru........

[Subike]

Note at work today saying , evans pass on the lyttelton side is hoped to be open to normal traffic on the 14/10/10 . Fingers crossed. Not sure how good the road surface will be thru........

I will just have to take a ride down it to have a look on the 15th then report in here. A good excuse for a pootle

[Gibbo89]

pootle

another fella who uses that word...

take note gloplg!

[JMemonic]

Fornicate (or another word that potentially describes the act of) 24 pages, the same old arguments which I cant be bothered reading yet again, route suggestions and giving names to said routes when we have been taking them since the inception of the rides.

If people are interested, go back over the last few years and read the arguments about the group policing bikes regos and wof and where these went, as to insurance worries, should you be hit by another vehicle whist insured and the other party is not insured for what ever reason then that has no effect on your no claims, no claims is lost when you have an accident or collision where your excess is paid by you the owner (even if its a bloody act of nature).

As Tristan said what people want is to go for a ride and talk shit at the end, should the police become concerned they will take action, this may include checking rego's etc, or setting up speed traps along the way etc and this will occur regardless of any action taken by the group.

[Gareth123]

No money for petrol. Sadly I will be absent tonight. Have a good ride guys!

[leopardskin]

we are a chatty bunch aren't we? i see another thread for organised ride has only 5 pages so far - and most of that seems to be posts calling each other "homo"!

[Subike]

we are a chatty bunch aren't we? i see another thread for organised ride has only 5 pages so far - and most of that seems to be posts calling each other "homo"!

Thats because Christchurch is the place that friendly people with a common cause flock togeather without egos and bullshit. If you ride a bike and can join in thats all we require, you dont have to have the right bike, or the right gear or be able to ride a certain way, or belong to an elieite group, ( other than this forum lol)
Just come as you are and join in with real people having a ball.
Of course that means we converse in here often

[Gibbo89]

It isn't a forum if you don't have copious amounts of bullshit. :woohoo: :corn:

[neels]

Fornicate (or another word that potentially describes the act of) 24 pages, the same old arguments which I cant be bothered reading yet again, route suggestions and giving names to said routes when we have been taking them since the inception of the rides.

As Tristan said what people want is to go for a ride and talk shit at the end, should the police become concerned they will take action, this may include checking rego's etc, or setting up speed traps along the way etc and this will occur regardless of any action taken by the group.
What he said. Individual responsibility and accept any consequences regarding legality, insurance etc etc. Naming of routes is a bit pointless for me, I can never remember what name belongs to what ride anyway.


we are a chatty bunch aren't we? i see another thread for organised ride has only 5 pages so far - and most of that seems to be posts calling each other "homo"!
All that latent homosexuality in one thread, strange bunch those norf islanders.

Anyway, as few rules and as little complicated organisation as possible please, as the song goes

I just want to ride my motorcycle
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[gloplg]

What he said. Individual responsibility and accept any consequences regarding legality, insurance etc etc. Naming of routes is a bit pointless for me, I can never remember what name belongs to what ride anyway.
Anyway, as few rules and as little complicated organisation as possible please, as the song goes

I just want to ride my motorcycle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g266Uwp6ZnI

OK I hear what people are saying. I will :shutup::shutup:!!!!!!!:yes::scooter::laugh:

[leopardskin]

just when i thought Neels would say something sensible..... he brings in the pickle song! debate is healthy - but most points are probably covered in post #1

[Tacoman]

does any one knows the destination for today's ride ? :woohoo:

[Gibbo89]

Tonight's ride

BK, Brougham, through the tube, round the bays, Gebbies, Blue Duck (Black Tulip), Tai Tap Pub.

[imdying]

Last time I went around the bays it was some of the most retarded crap I've ever come across. That was a couple of months ago, I hope they've sorted it out for you :yes: I'd sure hope so, they couldn't keep it in that disasterous state for long... surely.

[Gibbo89]

Last time I went around the bays it was some of the most retarded crap I've ever come across. That was a couple of months ago, I hope they've sorted it out for you :yes: I'd sure hope so, they couldn't keep it in that disasterous state for long... surely.

she's alright now, not the best but still fun as :scooter:

[Tacoman]

Tonight's ride

BK, Brougham, through the tube, round the bays, Gebbies, Blue Duck (Black Tulip), Tai Tap Pub.

looks like fun ride

[Tacoman]

she's alright now, not the best but still fun as :scooter:

she's good now took a solo ride two fridays ago minter as !! :yes:

[KiwiPhoenix]

Looks like the weather is going to be good for this one! See you all there!!

[leopardskin]

i'm not going to make it tonight - been crook a few days now - ride would brighten me up i'm sure though...have a good safe ride people

[SMOKEU]

Last time I went around the bays it was some of the most retarded crap I've ever come across. That was a couple of months ago, I hope they've sorted it out for you :yes: I'd sure hope so, they couldn't keep it in that disasterous state for long... surely.

Are you going to tonights ride?

[Transalper]

i'm not going to make it tonight - been crook a few days now - ride would brighten me up i'm sure though...have a good safe ride people

Same here, thought about going but will keep my bugs at home.

[helenoftroy]

i'm not going to make it tonight - been crook a few days now - ride would brighten me up i'm sure though...have a good safe ride people


Same here, thought about going but will keep my bugs at home.

Theres a few laid low atm(longwheely isnt happy either)

Was hard staffing Burwood adequately this week,lots of nurses off sick:doctor:

[SMOKEU]

Well I certainly enjoyed the ride tonight, apart from those nasty bits of gravel!

It was good to meet some more of you as well, I'll probably show up every week now.

[kerryhare]

Theres a few laid low atm(longwheely isnt happy either)

Was hard staffing Burwood adequately this week,lots of nurses off sick:doctor:

I would offer to come and work, but already over 80hrs for the fortnight.

[Freespaceage]

Great ride again today, more new faces. Thanks all for the ride :niceone:

[phoenixgtr]

Nice casual ride tonight. Was quite impressed with the tai tap hotel too :2thumbsup:

[KiwiPhoenix]

Enjoyed tonight as well, cold and bumpy in places! Well done RQ for the suggestion. :woohoo: for the hotel as well!

[fireliv]

another fella who uses that word...

take note gloplg!

I think you will find that if you look "pootle" up in the dictionary you will find "fireliv" next to it- a word invented to describe my riding last season. However I started this season with a tiny bit more gusto- still rusty.

Otherwise a good ride, liked the pub so would be keen to incorporate it into another ride.

[SMOKEU]

I think you will find that if you look "pootle" up in the dictionary you will find "fireliv" next to it- a word invented to describe my riding last season. However I started this season with a tiny bit more gusto- still rusty.

Otherwise a good ride, liked the pub so would be keen to incorporate it into another ride.

I know what you mean; except I've lost my nerve over the past few months which explains my very poor riding lately.

[Gibbo89]

Good ride tonight. See you all next week.

[Flip]

Well I also had a lovely wee pootle last night. (Is "pootle" the new official term used for a great ride?) Got my new tire scrubbed in with no problems. I got quite cold last night on the trip home, should have worn warmer gear, yea I know...... I am really looking forward to summers warmer evenings.

Really great to see so many new faces, don't be shy with this group, it's important that you introduce yourself and feel included in all the good natured crap that goes on here.

[Tacoman]

Had to bail last night made it to Nando's for another nice riders meeting. Dave awesome pace mate same as the dude on the 250cc black gyostsung and E. Was quite a thrill get into that peace of nasty gravel nothign major :scooter:

[SMOKEU]

Was quite a thrill get into that peace of nasty gravel nothign major :scooter:

I'm just glad that no one binned it (to my knowledge anyway). It would have been very easy to crash on some of those patches of gravel if the rider panicked and hit the anchors.

[Subike]

I'm just glad that no one binned it (to my knowledge anyway). It would have been very easy to crash on some of those patches of gravel if the rider panicked and hit the anchors.

thats one reaon for the rides, to boost riders confidence in situations outside of the norm.
The small shingle patches we encounted last night were very easy to deal with even for a learner. It teaches confidence in your ability that comes from repetativly dealing with situations like that, which hone your skills into doing what is right .
Following another rider over a patch of shingle can give you confidence, because you see someone else do it safley..then you should be able too as well.

Yes theres was a good pace on last night, and there were a few places where the potential for an incident was evident. But there were no incidents.
Good riding people... all of you.

[SMOKEU]

thats one reaon for the rides, to boost riders confidence in situations outside of the norm.
The small shingle patches we encounted last night were very easy to deal with even for a learner. It teaches confidence in your ability that comes from repetativly dealing with situations like that, which hone your skills into doing what is right .
Following another rider over a patch of shingle can give you confidence, because you see someone else do it safley..then you should be able too as well.

Yes theres was a good pace on last night, and there were a few places where the potential for an incident was evident. But there were no incidents.
Good riding people... all of you.

Well, with that big long patch of gravel, I was slowing down for a corner when I hit it. I didn't want to brake as I've locked my front wheel too many times braking on gravel, and I didn't want to steer out of it because then there would have been a good chance of me going for a slide. My only other choice was to do nothing and end up on the wrong side of the road.

[Subike]

Well, with that big long patch of gravel, I was slowing down for a corner when I hit it. I didn't want to brake as I've locked my front wheel too many times braking on gravel, and I didn't want to steer out of it because then there would have been a good chance of me going for a slide. My only other choice was to do nothing and end up on the wrong side of the road.

IMO on gravel use your rear brake gently, relax your grip on the bars, allow the bike to float under you. If you tense up, any sharp movement of the front wheel can upset your line of travel, being relaxed allows that small movement tohappen and will be compensated by the gyroscopic effect of the wheels.
You bike natuurally wants to stand up stright, sometimes you just have to trust your bike more than your skills.

[SMOKEU]

IMO on gravel use your rear brake gently, relax your grip on the bars, allow the bike to float under you. If you tense up, any sharp movement of the front wheel can upset your line of travel, being relaxed allows that small movement tohappen and will be compensated by the gyroscopic effect of the wheels.
You bike natuurally wants to stand up stright, sometimes you just have to trust your bike more than your skills.

I'll remember that for next time.

[gloplg]

IMO on gravel use your rear brake gently, relax your grip on the bars, allow the bike to float under you. If you tense up, any sharp movement of the front wheel can upset your line of travel, being relaxed allows that small movement tohappen and will be compensated by the gyroscopic effect of the wheels.
You bike natuurally wants to stand up stright, sometimes you just have to trust your bike more than your skills.

I'll second that and your previous post. :2thumbsup:2thumbsup

[Tacoman]

IMO on gravel use your rear brake gently, relax your grip on the bars, allow the bike to float under you. If you tense up, any sharp movement of the front wheel can upset your line of travel, being relaxed allows that small movement tohappen and will be compensated by the gyroscopic effect of the wheels.
You bike natuurally wants to stand up stright, sometimes you just have to trust your bike more than your skills.

great advise and remember not to panic neither slam the brakes at all which is the immediate thought when you feel tense or in front of a un expected situation. :facepalm: go through it and look up for your exit, those patches were rith ther as you were hitting the corner, feel the back wheel movement so you know you wont go down and its part of your riding.

Every ride is a learning opportuinty :yes: for me and others

[Tacoman]

I'm just glad that no one binned it (to my knowledge anyway). It would have been very easy to crash on some of those patches of gravel if the rider panicked and hit the anchors.

quite right bud our other wiser rider has reply with some pointers taken those on board myself:drinkup:

[SpeedMonger]

great advise and remember not to panic neither slam the brakes at all which is the immediate thought when you feel tense or in front of a un expected situation. :facepalm: go through it and look up for your exit, those patches were rith ther as you were hitting the corner, feel the back wheel movement so you know you wont go down and its part of your riding.

Every ride is a learning opportuinty :yes: for me and others

I thought that you were supposed to hit the gas on the gravel Tacoman... I seem to remember something about flying debris and high revs in the pub carpark.... :facepalm::oi-grr::nya:

[SMOKEU]

I thought that you were supposed to hit the gas on the gravel Tacoman... I seem to remember something about flying debris and high revs in the pub carpark.... :facepalm::oi-grr::nya:

I have heard the old saying "If in doubt, power out".

[KiwiPhoenix]

Good advice given there, especially for the likes of me, only just got my restricted about 6 weeks ago, that has enjoyed the roads all last summer (as a learner) with no problems then riding this year on the quake hit roads is definitely honing my riding skills further. I don't like gravel but it has been a good learning curve the last couple of weeks for me!

[Flip]

Wednesday 20th roure:http://maps.google.co.nz/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Moorhouse+Ave&daddr=-43.5399,172.643366+to:-43.53994,172.652786+to:-43.54335,172.66716+to:-43.58128,172.75599+to:-43.6033624,172.714963+to:-43.6372717,172.6469626+to:-43.7163185,172.6137585+to:Christchurch+Akaroa+Rd&hl=en&geocode=FUSiZ_0dUExKCg%3BFUSiZ_0dJlRKCimjekigHooxb THOf8asF4Qidg%3BFRyiZ_0d8nhKCik9J_UX9IkxbTGMGADaXk hNGQ%3BFcqUZ_0dGLFKCim1_KoI6YkxbTHrYrXP0oWBqg%3BFa AAZ_0dFgxMCim38rZZFSgybTG63thOxO46vg%3BFV6qZv0d02t LCinjKYpdNiYybTHt_g9aUGAOPQ%3BFeklZv0dMmJKCin52Kkr _yMybTEXw32VA15OaQ%3BFSLxZP0dfuBJCikdS4Pd0TwybTFm5 D7YS1lTaw%3BFb78Y_0dpmtMCg&mra=dpe&mrcr=0&mrsp=7&sz=13&via=1,2,3,4,5,6,7&sll=-43.71479,172.613411&sspn=0.040697,0.109692&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=13
OK GP?

[Dave-]

Wednesday 20th roure: http://maps.google.co.nz/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Moorhouse+Ave&daddr=-43.5399,172.643366+to:-43.53994,172.652786+to:-43.54335,172.66716+to:-43.58128,172.75599+to:-43.6033625,172.7149639+to:-43.637272,172.6469629+to:Christchurch+Akaroa+Rd&geocode=FUSiZ_0dUExKCg%3BFUSiZ_0dJlRKCimjekigHooxb THOf8asF4Qidg%3BFRyiZ_0d8nhKCik9J_UX9IkxbTGMGADaXk hNGQ%3BFcqUZ_0dGLFKCim1_KoI6YkxbTHrYrXP0oWBqg%3BFa AAZ_0dFgxMCim38rZZFSgybTG63thOxO46vg%3BFV6qZv0d02t LCinjKYpdNiYybTHt_g9aUGAOPQ%3BFeglZv0dMmJKCin52Kkr _yMybTEXw32VA15OaQ%3BFb78Y_0dpmtMCg&hl=en&mra=dpe&mrcr=0&mrsp=2&sz=16&via=1,2,3,4,5,6&sll=-43.540958,172.651134&sspn=0.01165,0.019248&ie=UTF8&ll=-43.614702,172.671432&spn=0.37235,0.615921&t=h&z=11

OK GP?

long gp...

[gloplg]

Wednesday 20th roure: http://maps.google.co.nz/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Moorhouse+Ave&daddr=-43.5399,172.643366+to:-43.53994,172.652786+to:-43.54335,172.66716+to:-43.58128,172.75599+to:-43.6033625,172.7149639+to:-43.637272,172.6469629+to:Christchurch+Akaroa+Rd&geocode=FUSiZ_0dUExKCg%3BFUSiZ_0dJlRKCimjekigHooxb THOf8asF4Qidg%3BFRyiZ_0d8nhKCik9J_UX9IkxbTGMGADaXk hNGQ%3BFcqUZ_0dGLFKCim1_KoI6YkxbTHrYrXP0oWBqg%3BFa AAZ_0dFgxMCim38rZZFSgybTG63thOxO46vg%3BFV6qZv0d02t LCinjKYpdNiYybTHt_g9aUGAOPQ%3BFeglZv0dMmJKCin52Kkr _yMybTEXw32VA15OaQ%3BFb78Y_0dpmtMCg&hl=en&mra=dpe&mrcr=0&mrsp=2&sz=16&via=1,2,3,4,5,6&sll=-43.540958,172.651134&sspn=0.01165,0.019248&ie=UTF8&ll=-43.614702,172.671432&spn=0.37235,0.615921&t=h&z=11

OK GP?

Thanks Tinkering Belle looks good. Destination Little River Pub.

Millers Rd to cut the Blue Duck corner, and anyone who wants to I'm sure Dave- will lead you up to the Hilltop and back if there is enough light.

Van drivers look out Mrs Neels will boot your vehicle if you get in her way.

[Flip]

Thanks Tinkering Belle looks good. Destination Little River Pub.

Millers Rd to cut the Blue Duck corner, and anyone who wants to I'm sure Dave- will lead you up to the Hilltop and back if there is enough light.

Van drivers look out Mrs Neels will boot your vehicle if you get in her way.

All fixed up

[FJRider]

Wednesday 20th route:

OK GP?

Might show up for this one ... :innocent:

Might have a friend with me .... on a "borrowed" XJ750 ... :gob:



... maybe .... :yes: ... if it all works out .... :sunny:

[SpeedMonger]

Looks good, would be a shame not to go up the hill, round the hill and down the hill, when you're right there....:innocent:

[gloplg]

Looks good, would be a shame not to go up the hill, round the hill and down the hill, when you're right there....:innocent:

Now now settle petal. You will get your chance:yes::yes::scooter::facepalm::facepalm:

[neels]

Dave- will lead you up to the Hilltop and back if there is enough light.

Van drivers look out Mrs Neels will boot your vehicle if you get in her way.
I'm thinking Akaroa and back, as long as there is a pint waiting when I get back.

Watch out for those boots, they mean business, particularly if theres already a helicopter on the way.

[gloplg]

I'm thinking Akaroa and back, as long as there is a pint waiting when I get back.

Watch out for those boots, they mean business, particularly if theres already a helicopter on the way.

As the WNR will be going to Akaroa this week, the Sunday ride I was suggesting will be overkill. I will have to ride somewhere else. Once a week to Akaroa is enough for me.:yes::yes:

[SpeedMonger]

As the WNR will be going to Akaroa this week, the Sunday ride I was suggesting will be overkill. I will have to ride somewhere else. Once a week to Akaroa is enough for me.:yes::yes:

I (and I think Neels) was referring to an additional trip going over the hill and then back to little river, not suggesting an alternative.

One dose of Lake Forsythe Flies a week is enough for me too, fishy little beggars. :sick:

Where are you posting the Sunday ride??

[neels]

I (and I think Neels) was referring to an additional trip going over the hill and then back to little river, not suggesting an alternative.

Yep, that's what I was thinking. Those that want to can carry on over the hill and back to Little River, those not so keen can put their feet up at the pub. I'd rather head out and back to Akaroa while it's still light and then just head home around the lake


One dose of Lake Forsythe Flies a week is enough for me too, fishy little beggars. :sick:
That reminds me, must go and clean the last batch of those off my visor, they are lovely aren't they. :dodge:

[Dave-]

Yep, that's what I was thinking. Those that want to can carry on over the hill and back to Little River, those not so keen can put their feet up at the pub. I'd rather head out and back to Akaroa while it's still light and then just head home around the lake


That reminds me, must go and clean the last batch of those off my visor, they are lovely aren't they. :dodge:

sunset is at 7:59 on wednesday, if we leave at 6:30, with no stops, and speed the whole way, you might make it to akaroa and back in 1.5 hours....

my preference would be to ride the hill in the dark, I like it.

[gloplg]

I (and I think Neels) was referring to an additional trip going over the hill and then back to little river, not suggesting an alternative.

One dose of Lake Forsythe Flies a week is enough for me too, fishy little beggars. :sick:

Where are you posting the Sunday ride??

Sunday ride was posted a couple of weeks ago on the SatRide thread.

And :yes::yes: I took it that Neels was suggesting some of the group extend the :ride::ride: to Akaroa and back to the Little River pub.:2thumbsup:2thumbsup:drinknsin:drinknsin

I don't have any problems with that idea. I might even join in if there is enough daylight left. :sunny::chase::chase::scooter:

Will have to find out what time the fish and chip shop closes in Akaroa. They do GF fish and chips.

[KiwiPhoenix]

Might show up for this one ... :innocent:

Might have a friend with me .... on a "borrowed" XJ750 ... :gob:



... maybe .... :yes: ... if it all works out .... :sunny:

If I'm on this "750" I'll be stopping at Little River, not wanting to push myself to far just quite yet! :yes:

[SpeedMonger]

Will have to find out what time the fish and chip shop closes in Akaroa. They do GF fish and chips.

Sounds like a good ride indeed, also wonder when the Petrol Station closes there,l don't quite have the range that I used to :facepalm:

[gloplg]

Sounds like a good ride indeed, also wonder when the Petrol Station closes there,l don't quite have the range that I used to :facepalm:

Google maps gives our route as 96Km to Akaroa. I'm not sure but I think the service station closes at 19.00 to 20.00hrs. I will try to confirm that.

170 to 180km return at the outside. If you topup before you leave town??????? What range does your new bike have???

[Dave3362]

ok gloplug.. what the site for saturday rides again so i can see sundays ride

[gloplg]

ok gloplug.. what the site for saturday rides again so i can see sundays ride

Saturday Winter (not the WNR) Is the thread I posted on. I'm not sure if anybody will be going as this was the first SunRide I had posted.

[Dave3362]

Well id like to.. got nothing else on and get bored sundays

[SpeedMonger]

Google maps gives our route as 96Km to Akaroa. I'm not sure but I think the service station closes at 19.00 to 20.00hrs. I will try to confirm that.

170 to 180km return at the outside. If you topup before you leave town??????? What range does your new bike have???

It holds 2 litres less than the old Hornet @ 17 litres, and is averaging about 7 litres / 100km. So in theory about 240km maximum. Might be running on fumes on the way back if I get a bit too vigorous :scooter::scooter:.... oh well, theres always the AA :shit:

The worst economy I got on the Hornet was 230km (after a rapid WNR to Duvauchelles) on which I would normally get 250 - 280, ran out of gas on the way to work the next day 10km short of petrol station! Mr AA brought out gas but wanted cash for it. I thought that they would just send you a bill, felt a bit guilty as he gave me enough gas to get to the petrol station anyway. :woohoo:

[gloplg]

It holds 2 litres less than the old Hornet @ 17 litres, and is averaging about 7 litres / 100km. So in theory about 240km maximum. Might be running on fumes on the way back if I get a bit too vigorous :scooter::scooter:.... oh well, theres always the AA :shit:

The worst economy I got on the Hornet was 230km (after a rapid WNR to Duvauchelles) on which I would normally get 250 - 280, ran out of gas on the way to work the next day 10km short of petrol station! Mr AA brought out gas but wanted cash for it. I thought that they would just send you a bill, felt a bit guilty as he gave me enough gas to get to the petrol station anyway. :woohoo:

I was wrong:blink::shit:the servo in Akaroa closes at 18.00.

Little River Hotel is expecting us:yes::drinkup::drinknsin:apint::innocent:weather permitting.

[Flip]

I have a few litres of gas in a tin in the back of the side car, and in a pinch I could get some out of the Harley.

Ummmmmm draining my Harley's vital fluids to feed a young predator........

[JMemonic]

If I am reading the map right you intend heading through Sumner and over Evans pass, just so you know that is still currently closed, might pay for someone to check aa roadwatch, of if you want I can check on the day up to the time I leave work.

[SpeedMonger]

I have a few litres of gas in a tin in the back of the side car, and in a pinch I could get some out of the Harley.

Ummmmmm draining my Harley's vital fluids to feed a young predator........

Sounds like a good theme for a horror movie eh :devil2: Hopefully she'll be right, but I remember thinking that just before I ran out the first and last time ....:facepalm: I presume the big BP station in Halswell is open late? Should make it there ok.

[Gibbo89]

I have a few litres of gas in a tin in the back of the side car, and in a pinch I could get some out of the Harley.

Ummmmmm draining my Harley's vital fluids to feed a young predator........

how many k's does the harley get out of a tank, roughly?

[gloplg]

If I am reading the map right you intend heading through Sumner and over Evans pass, just so you know that is still currently closed, might pay for someone to check aa roadwatch, of if you want I can check on the day up to the time I leave work.

Yes I rang the council on Wednesday and they said that the road was open. Was over that way today, I wanted to check the condition of the road and the road is still closed.

Hmmmmmmmmm!!!!:facepalm::facepalm::angry::angry:Mu tter mutter mutter F mutter mutter mutter

Oh well if Evans Pass is still closed next Wed, we can either go through the tube or over Dyers Pass.

[Flip]

how many k's does the harley get out of a tank, roughly?

I think 300 to empty.

6.5 l/100km X 20 litres.

[neels]

I think 300 to empty.

6.5 l/100km X 20 litres.
About the same as the Duc, 250k to reserve light when it takes about 17 litres to full again on a 21l tank.

Who'd have thought Italian and American economy would be the same, must be a twin thing.

[Gibbo89]

Had an interesting experience today, was going through gebbies pass, wheatshief side heading up the hill. Was going up a right hand bend and some dude on a bike was overtaking a car on a blind corner (for him) coming towards me. I could tell he almost shat himself because I saw him wobble around a bit. Luckily for him, and me, I could move to the left more so he didn't do something else a bit stupid. :facepalm:

[Gibbo89]

I think 300 to empty.

6.5 l/100km X 20 litres.

ahh i see.

on a different matter, what is up with your blog?? :blink:

[SpeedMonger]

About the same as the Duc, 250k to reserve light when it takes about 17 litres to full again on a 21l tank.

Who'd have thought Italian and American economy would be the same, must be a twin thing.

Jeez, my thirsty NipWog beast is feeling a bit inadequate. Will have to stow some siphon hose under the seat....:shifty::innocent:

[Flip]

ahh i see.

on a different matter, what is up with your blog?? :blink:

Just hit the wrong button. I'm not a blog kind of guy.

[Flip]

About the same as the Duc, 250k to reserve light when it takes about 17 litres to full again on a 21l tank.

Who'd have thought Italian and American economy would be the same, must be a twin thing.

It's all got to do with how much fuel they burn pulling them selves through the air. The Duke has a few more HP and the Harley carries a bit more weight, they also have similar sized tanks. Is the Duke fuel injected? from its mpg I would say it is, the Harley is

[Vgygrwr]

Just goes to show what you pay for the character of a v twin. My TDM usually does closer to 350 km in its 17 l to reserve. Open road only and 400 km is easy on the 20 tank.

[neels]

Is the Duke fuel injected? from its mpg I would say it is, the Harley is
Yep, fuel injected, no more fiddling with carbies :woohoo:(on that bike anyway)


Just goes to show what you pay for the character of a v twin.
I reckon it's worth it...

[Flip]

QUOTE=Vgygrwr;1129886064]Just goes to show what you pay for the character of a v twin. My TDM usually does closer to 350 km in its 17 l to reserve. Open road only and 400 km is easy on the 20 tank.[/QUOTE]

Hell thats 4.9 l/100km. The best I ususlly do is 6 on the open road up to 7 if I am 2 up with a load of gear and are pushing it along.

I had a 1200 triumph trophy that used to do 7.5 l/100km, but it used to have a 24 litre tank.

I am interested in all your opinions on this, thinking about a solo?

221568

The top speed is about 130 and mine will be the same colour but I will have a carrier fitted, and will have the side valve motor.

[Subike]

I am interested in all your opinions on this, thinking about a solo?

221568

The top speed is about 130 and mine will be the same colour but I will have a carrier fitted, and will have the side valve motor.[/QUOTE]

are you going to start a breeding farm.......
If so I will buy the first three wheeler that pops out

[Tacoman]

I thought that you were supposed to hit the gas on the gravel Tacoman... I seem to remember something about flying debris and high revs in the pub carpark.... :facepalm::oi-grr::nya:

ups for a moment I thought I was on my dirt bike my bad:facepalm:

[Tacoman]

Looks good, would be a shame not to go up the hill, round the hill and down the hill, when you're right there....:innocent:

yea good idea, I am in by the time they all ordered drinks we shuld be back :scooter: I ve seen the post on the petronl tank my gixa goes 240km per tank reserve lights up at around 190km took a ride to aka on sunday tunnel-gebbies-little river aka and back with plently left weather should be good so hope to see you there:yes:

[Gibbo89]

Hell thats 4.9 l/100km. The best I ususlly do is 6 on the open road up to 7 if I am 2 up with a load of gear and are pushing it along.

I had a 1200 triumph trophy that used to do 7.5 l/100km, but it used to have a 24 litre tank.

I am interested in all your opinions on this, thinking about a solo?

221568

The top speed is about 130 and mine will be the same colour but I will have a carrier fitted, and will have the side valve motor.

Can I ask what it is?

[Flip]

Can I ask what it is?

Ex military PLA CJ750, The same as my side car bike (minus the chair).

Copy of Ural M72 and BMW R75.

[leopardskin]

that bike looks great (even without the chair on side) - buy it. Need some variety from all the ZX6R's, common as bloody muck on the WNR!

[Gibbo89]

Ex military PLA CJ750, The same as my side car bike (minus the chair).

Copy of Ural M72 and BMW R75.

ahh ok, will you attach it to the other side of the sidecar? :facepalm:

but it does look pretty sweet

[Gibbo89]

on a side note, i like the tags this thread now comes with :yes:

[gloplg]

I am interested in all your opinions on this, thinking about a solo?


221568

The top speed is about 130 and mine will be the same colour but I will have a carrier fitted, and will have the side valve motor.

Mmmmmmmmmmm!!!! Very nice!!!!!!!! What's the fuel economy like???:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[gloplg]

are you going to start a breeding farm.......
If so I will buy the first three wheeler that pops out

Now you just settle down!!!!!!!

You may be somewhere in the queue

[Subike]

Now you just settle down!!!!!!!

You may be somewhere in the queue

as long as its not behind Far Q I will happy

[SpeedMonger]

as long as its not behind Far Q I will happy
Being in front of Far Q could be worse :buggerd:

The Bike looks cool, is that a flux capacitor sitting on the engine block??

[gloplg]

The Bike looks cool, is that a flux capacitor sitting on the engine block??

Probably a JATO bottle

[Flip]

Probably a JATO bottle

No its the impulse manifold.

[KiwiPhoenix]

According my my source, who went on a Friday ride to Akaroa, the road is free of grit over the hilltop. Should be a good ride as long as the weather holds out!

[neels]

Bugger.

No riding for me tomorrow night, I has to go to work. :angry:

[KiwiPhoenix]

Bugger.

No riding for me tomorrow night, I has to go to work. :angry:

Bugger! :facepalm::facepalm:

[Tacoman]

According my my source, who went on a Friday ride to Akaroa, the road is free of grit over the hilltop. Should be a good ride as long as the weather holds out!

I can back that one up I did a ride on sunday via tunnel= bays(patch of gravel ) =gebbies the only gravel around is after passing the top of the hill almost getting to akaroa (when u turn left to get to hickory bay I think its called long bay road second left hander :shit:

Hope this makes sense

[Flip]

Anybody know if evans pass is open yet?

[gloplg]

Anybody know if evans pass is open yet?

I will ring the council in the morning, but if anyone is over that way (JM) could they please have a look and post the news. Or ring or txt me 366 5593, 0220 372 569.

I think all those who want to go to Akaroa should leave BK by 18.15.

The rest of us will leave at 18.30 as usual.

[SpeedMonger]

I will ring the council in the morning, but if anyone is over that way (JM) could they please have a look and post the news. Or ring or txt me 366 5593, 0220 372 569.

I think all those who want to go to Akaroa should leave BK by 18.15.

The rest of us will leave at 18.30 as usual.

Yep going even earlier, f&C at Akaroa then stop at little river on way back and wait for you lot. See you there! :innocent:

[JMemonic]

Anybody know if evans pass is open yet?

Nope not yet, I will have a look as I leave work today and post here about 1500 hours.

http://maps.aa.co.nz/traffic/roadwatch You could try this site as well.

[KiwiPhoenix]

So if Evans isn't open as yet, what is the alternate route, through the tunnel or via Tai Tapu??

[Dave-]

cash funds dictate that I'll only be going as far as little river....fuck

[gloplg]

Yes I rang the council on Wednesday and they said that the road was open. Was over that way today, I wanted to check the condition of the road and the road is still closed.

Hmmmmmmmmm!!!!:facepalm::facepalm::angry::angry:Mu tter mutter mutter F mutter mutter mutter

Oh well if Evans Pass is still closed next Wed, we can either go through the tube or over Dyers Pass.

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[KiwiPhoenix]

My vote is for the tube! I wanna see what this exhust sounds like in the tube!:shutup:

[Gibbo89]

I don't think the tunnel does the bikes justice, too many trucks and shit in there 24/7 when it comes to hearing the bikes. :shutup:

[KiwiPhoenix]

I don't think the tunnel does the bikes justice, too many trucks and shit in there 24/7 when it comes to hearing the bikes. :shutup:

You don't know the bike that I'm turning up on! :rofl:

[tupelo]

Just been round the bays via Tai Tapu and Gebbies. Still alot of gravel etc on the roads and looks like some fresh damage. Plenty of warning signs so shouldn't be an issue.

Evans pass rd is definitely CLOSED...I had to come back through the tube....

[tupelo]

You don't know the bike that I'm turning up on! :rofl:

Sounds like you got Full... good on ya!

[Tacoman]

So if Evans isn't open as yet, what is the alternate route, through the tunnel or via Tai Tapu??

I reckon through the tube, bays- gebbies, etc so meet up 6pm leave as soon the crew going to aka is ready? see ya there :woohoo:

[Tacoman]

Yep going even earlier, f&C at Akaroa then stop at little river on way back and wait for you lot. See you there! :innocent:

what time you arriving at bk hornet?, u want to wait 6pm? will give the rest about 5-10min turn up

[gloplg]

Just been round the bays via Tai Tapu and Gebbies. Still alot of gravel etc on the roads and looks like some fresh damage. Plenty of warning signs so shouldn't be an issue.

Evans pass rd is definitely CLOSED...I had to come back through the tube....

It is my understanding from the Lyttleton Area Maintenance Supervisor that Sumner Road will be opened at 17.00 today.

According to him, the Sumner Road is in better condition than the Govonors Bay Road.

:facepalm:Therefore I will chance my luck and post tonight's route.

BK, Ferry Rd, Sumner (regroup outside Van Asch [School for deaf]), Evans Pass, around the bays, Gebbies Pass, Millers Rd (regroup Millers near Akaroa Hiway), Little River Pub.

I am going to look at Sumner Road before 18.00 tonight.:yes::yes:

What is the weather going to do?????? :innocent::innocent:

[helenoftroy]

cash funds dictate that I'll only be going as far as little river....fuck

My boys riding tonight,we will prolly only go to Little River too....

a) cause I miss the Ducati when you do the rides with straight bits:weep:
b)Sams XR would'nt make it to Akaroa & back unless he carries fuel!!:facepalm:

[cruza]

what time you arriving at bk hornet?, u want to wait 6pm? will give the rest about 5-10min turn up

We are leaving ex my house in hornby at 530ish . With me being solo dad this week and Hornet having several run in's with oxford cop of late, it will be a quietish scoot ova the hill , fnc at akar's and beer with da' tribe at little river on return , Still racing the sun at this time of year.

[cruza]

According to him, the Sumner Road is in better condition than the Govonors Bay Road.

I quess with the amount of geli they used it is basically a new road now ......:facepalm: nothing like over doing it :innocent:

[Tacoman]

We are leaving ex my house in hornby at 530ish . With me being solo dad this week and Hornet having several run in's with oxford cop of late, it will be a quietish scoot ova the hill , fnc at akar's and beer with da' tribe at little river on return , Still racing the sun at this time of year.

will be very keen to join at horby departure however I invited:scooter: a mate whos going to be at BK 6pm but will see us at aka might just be behind us'

Weather is holding nicely 16c at mo no indication of rain just cloud

[cruza]

will be very keen to join at horby departure however I invited:scooter: a mate whos going to be at BK 6pm but will see us at aka might just be behind us'

Weather is holding nicely 16c at mo no indication of rain just cloud

cool and dry. gasing at bp halswell on way .
were you the guy who did the burn out on the shingle at taitapu pub?

[JMemonic]

I give up, next time someone wants info about Lyttelton and whats going on there DONT look at me, as requested I actually went and asked people in the know then sent a txt to the number posted earlier in the form to have the information yet again ignored, this is not the first time this sort of information has been ignored so I say fuck it.

[Tacoman]

cool and dry. gasing at bp halswell on way .
were you the guy who did the burn out on the shingle at taitapu pub?

good as gold, were u the dude who cover it ?? heheh silly me

:innocent:

[Tacoman]

I give up, next time someone wants info about Lyttelton and whats going on there DONT look at me, as requested I actually went and asked people in the know then sent a txt to the number posted earlier in the form to have the information yet again ignored, this is not the first time this sort of information has been ignored so I say fuck it.

Fair enough JMnic specially if you are making an effort to find info then people ignore :angry:it :facepalm:

[Tacoman]

fantastic ride, I had to bail again early the boss asked me to be home at good time:blink:

hope everyone enjoyed themselves :sunny:

[gloplg]

Anyway.........

Moving on!!!!!!!

Very good ride tonight inspite of the lake flies. Some 40 odd bikes at BK tonight plus the ones that left early to go to Akaroa.

Nice pub at Little River. How was the food folks?????

Flip wants to go to Greta Valley next week.

[tupelo]

Hi all...somewhere along the way I have dropped my wallet bugger!:angry:
Unfortunately I didn't discover this until after I had filled up at the BP in Halswell...
Had no idea what I was going to do then a lady in shining Armour, or at least leather, appeared and saved me big time...Thanks HOT your a life saver. I am going to have to learn to zip me pockets up now that I have switched to a sports bike.Earlier in the day it was my cell phone that dropped out on the road. If by chance someone has come across a wallet give me a yell.

[tupelo]

Anyway.........

Moving on!!!!!!!

Very good ride tonight inspite of the lake flies. Some 40 odd bikes at BK tonight plus the ones that left early to go to Akaroa.

Nice pub at Little River. How was the food folks?????

Flip wants to go to Greta Valley next week.

Yeah I'd been keen on the Greta next week.

[Booswap]

Frances decided to go for a tiki tour of diamond harbour and missed the turn. Went back to look and only went to godly house and i think she must have been further down. Came back home to find a text saying she was on her way home going through dyers so she took an hour longer to get home.

Oh well will remember to take a mobile with me for the future. And at least she got home lol.

[helenoftroy]

Sam & I had a great night!I am so lucky to get to ride with my boy:yes:

Subike thought he was on a grasstracker.....:shit:

A nameless cibby rider lost his wallet....bad luck buddy

[helenoftroy]

Frances decided to go for a tiki tour of diamond harbour and missed the turn. Went back to look and only went to godly house and i think she must have been further down. Came back home to find a text saying she was on her way home going through dyers so she took an hour longer to get home.

Oh well will remember to take a mobile with me for the future. And at least she got home lol.
Oh no!Was great to see Frances,wondered what had happened to her!

tupelo....happy to help out:yes:

[Gibbo89]

Frances decided to go for a tiki tour of diamond harbour and missed the turn. Went back to look and only went to godly house and i think she must have been further down. Came back home to find a text saying she was on her way home going through dyers so she took an hour longer to get home.

Oh well will remember to take a mobile with me for the future. And at least she got home lol.

good to hear she has returned from the bays, she must have been pretty focused and seen me (i will sit on the corner more too when in the same situation again next time).

Good ride tonight. RIP bugs near the lake, got a heap on my visor and jacket (i think i dominated a bumble bee too, heavy wee buggers them bees).

[Flip]

I think I would rather loose my wallet than my wife.

Seems to be the day for loosing things........

[Spuds1234]

Yes on Greta next week. That way I can join you guys in Amberly.

[Freespaceage]

Excellent ride again this evening (even with the curtain of bugs - must remember to bring bug spray next time :yes:). We really enjoyed the ride and company. Unfortunately we couldn't stay for a drink - but definately will next time.

[Subike]

lesson learnt never assume that freshly mowen grass is a flat surface.
I did a u turn onto the footpath, decided to ride up the nice flat looking grass verge,
only it was not flat, there was a 300mm high ridge, hidden under the nice flat mowen grass. The front wheel decided to turn the opp direction that I was moving ,,, very suddenly,
Owch
on me bum , bike on side in the grass, me looking very sheepish.
One bent handle bar, bent front brake lever, bent rear signal lamp mount.
All fixable.
Bent pride...... bugger
So a slow ride home for me, front brake difficult to reach because of bent lever.
Other than that a really good ride, even though the bike was wollowing in the corners, front tyre pressues low I bet.
Will be there next week no worries.

[gloplg]

Owch
on me bum , bike on side in the grass, me looking very sheepish.
One bent handle bar, bent front brake lever, bent rear signal lamp mount.
All fixable.
Bent pride...... bugger


Mmmmmmmmmmmm, you too huh!!!!

Ask Donna aka kiwipheonix about the aged knight in a rusty tin suit that allowed her steed to fall over last night!!!!:blink::facepalm::yes::shit::shutup::bye: :violin::sick::innocent::innocent::innocent::innoc ent:

[Transalper]

So how was Evans Pass?
I was at work and looking like I'll be there (at work) again next week too.:bye:

[Dave-]

So how was Evans Pass?
I was at work and looking like I'll be there (at work) again next week too.:bye:

dull as shit on a sportsbike....a transalp would be choice.

[Subike]

So how was Evans Pass?
I was at work and looking like I'll be there (at work) again next week too.:bye:

road surface good, but dusty, had to stop at traffic lights half way down.
ok in the dry, but I think with rain the volcanic dust on the road could turn very slippery, so even though it is open, and good to ride, I would be very wary of dampness making it dangerous for bikes.
I advise caution traveling it untill we have had several rains on it to wash away that dust

[Flip]

Mmmmmmmmmmmm, you too huh!!!!

Ask Donna aka kiwipheonix about the aged knight in a rusty tin suit that allowed her steed to fall over last night!!!!:blink::facepalm::yes::shit::shutup::bye: :violin::sick::innocent::innocent::innocent::innoc ent:

As I said it was the day for loosing things, like ones footing.

[KiwiPhoenix]

Mmmmmmmmmmmm, you too huh!!!!

Ask Donna aka kiwipheonix about the aged knight in a rusty tin suit that allowed her steed to fall over last night!!!!:blink::facepalm::yes::shit::shutup::bye: :violin::sick::innocent::innocent::innocent::innoc ent:

Yep, he dropped the "borrowed" bike!! the real owner being FJRider, I was only allowed a play on it, won't be out of the garage for a big run for a while, except for the wee trip to the shop and back!! You think FJ would know better than to leave his bike in my garage and leave the keys :blink: :rofl:

I won't be along next week, have a fashion show prep to do, me being the model, this could be interesting! So have a great and safe ride guy!

[Tacoman]

dull as shit on a sportsbike....a transalp would be choice.

Agree on that Dave some one say it was " rideable " peace of crap :facepalm: I wont touch that road for a while till becomes real rideable :scooter:

[cruza]

Trailer hooked up . chillybin packed . Junior and me off to nelson tomorrow , hopefully bringing back a bike for rummie. could be a surprise as she still in aust on holiday :innocent:

[KiwiPhoenix]

Trailer hooked up . chillybin packed . Junior and me off to nelson tomorrow , hopefully bringing back a bike for rummie. could be a surprise as she still in aust on holiday :innocent:

Nice, have a safe trip and looking forward to seeing it! :woohoo:

[jimichelle]

via waikari?
ive been meaning to come on one for awhile

[SpeedMonger]

RIP bugs near the lake, got a heap on my visor and jacket (i think i dominated a bumble bee too, heavy wee buggers them bees).

Yep same here, absolutlely plastered with them. Guess that's what happens when you ride Zealously :facepalm:

Great ride to Akaroa, leaving early was definitely worthwhile.:yes:

[SpeedMonger]

Trailer hooked up . chillybin packed . Junior and me off to nelson tomorrow , hopefully bringing back a bike for rummie. could be a surprise as she still in aust on holiday :innocent:

Good luck with that, is junior the relief driver??? :ride:

[leopardskin]

enjoyed the ride last night - mrs leopardskin did too - her first ride on the back on ninja - another bonus was the vastly improved mileage with wifey on the back - how does that work?? we were late home from work so left our place at 6.30 thinking we'd see you's on the way but guess Evans slowed you lot down and we got to Little River pub...and was outnumbered by the locals! not for long tho

[cruza]

Good luck with that, is junior the relief driver??? :ride:

LOL ,no he's working the spotlight ,we going up the middle, be checkin a couple of spots we see deer during spring on way up . a couple spotted last week early morning ,:innocent: so rangefinder and longrange smoke pole is packed.

[Flip]

LOL ,no he's working the spotlight ,we going up the middle, be checkin a couple of spots we see deer during spring on way up . a couple spotted last week early morning ,:innocent: so rangefinder and longrange smoke pole is packed.

Bambi on the BBQ at your house next weekend?

[Gibbo89]

I think it was Cruza, followed by Mr hornet who overtook me (i slowed down and let you pass me :not:) on the way back to Chch and Cruza almost tamed a Mother duck and her young ones, Cruza then braked quite hard, with mr hornet just behind him.

I think it was you two :scratch: