Team GPR

[seymour14]

Sorry Crazyman, know you like your lasties thread! :laugh:

(500 replies to this thread if you can't work it out!)

[husaberg]

fixed that for your Crazymandad I suspect that no one will ever notice:innocent:

[seymour14]

fixed that for your Crazymandad I suspect that no one will ever notice:innocent:

Where's Wally?

[Bert]

Huummmm Interesting.

now that the GPR DYNO is up and running it was time to test the GPR100 (TZR).

At minefield the other weekend it was noticeable that the power dropped off during the mid range.
However none of us expected it to be as interesting as this.

Some work to do..... :facepalm:
Dyno plot is 6000 - 12000
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The ignition curve and servo opening are attached.

So we leaned it off by dropping the needle (which slightly improved things); but me thinks ignition and servo adjustments may be required.

Specs:
TZR100, 95-RS125 pipe, Exhaust duration = 198, Inlets = 123, comp 13.2:1, crankcase volume ratio 1.55.
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[F5 Dave]

Hey that's actually some pretty respectable power, but yes I expect the PV opening time might be juggled to lose some of that drop. Certainly felt like it revved pretty low when I rode it. I wonder if the ign is dropping off too steep suppressing the revs. An inch out of the pipe may be a good idea, maybe a couple, those Yam cranks should be good for a peak power increase of 1000rpm or more.

Pretty rounded transfers as an observation.

Edit, sorry do yuo mean the transfers are 123 deg? That's 37.5 deg blowdown which is huge. I'd raise those for certain.

[husaberg]

Hey that's actually some pretty respectable power, but yes I expect the PV opening time might be juggled to lose some of that drop. Certainly felt like it revved pretty low when I rode it. I wonder if the ign is dropping off too steep suppressing the revs. An inch out of the pipe may be a good idea, maybe a couple, those Yam cranks should be good for a peak power increase of 1000rpm or more.

Pretty rounded transfers as an observation.

Edit, sorry do yuo mean the transfers are 123 deg? That's 37.5 deg blowdown which is huge. I'd raise those for certain.

I think he does........
You can't fault your consistency Dave

why does it look like left & right front transfers are different sizes?

Transfers seem quite low. hmm, 38 deg blowdown is quite excessive, that will be quite peaky despite a tame ex port height. I'd be aiming for say 34.


http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=228625&d=1275867527

[F5 Dave]

have too much research time on your hands.

[husaberg]

have too much research time on your hands.


yip but that one i remembered and found in under 30 secs as it confused me at the time re the port timmings as they seemed mismatched and i also didn't realise it had a single ex port.
I will have some materials arriving soon to keep me out of mischief for a while.:msn-wink:


ps Brent ya bugger.... yours was even longer in planning than mine..............lol:innocent:

[F5 Dave]

He's been racing it for about a year

[husaberg]

He's been racing it for about a year

Only brent can answer when he started but i guess it was about 5years ago??????????????


Hi all.
I been slowly building up a new F4 100cc two stroke bucket motor (first new motor in at lease 10 years) and I've got a few questions regarding:

1. Sparkplugs, Standard spark-plug (NGK B9EGV or NDw29ES*) thread lengths are normally 3/4" long, has anyone found a 14mm pitch racing plug that is in the same heat range (~NGK 9-10) that has a longer thread (lets say ~22mm, I recall something about tz125s & rotaxs kart motors having longer threaded plugs, so temp sensors could be installed)?
(reason: I'm figuring out the best way to profile my head). I've download the NGK catalogue but can't seem to find anything useful.

2. Carbs, Do early RGV (1988-90ish) require vacuum pressure or pressurised air-box to work correctly? (reason, I've got a box of carbs but the RGV fits the best).
Was planning on sleeving it down to 30mm. any help on these carbs would be great (I've spend hours looking/googling for information on these to no avail, so its time to ask).

3. Rubber engine mounts, I've done a little bit of work to mount the engine directly to the swingarm pivot, so now I just need to make some new rubber bushes. This is not looking like an off the shelve solution, so I'm going to need to make something up. I was thinking about some rubber hose with a steal insert (which the swingarm bolt go's through); but I'm not sure if hose will be dense enough or even be suitable. any thoughts ??

cheers in advance.

Brent

[Bert]

Only brent can answer when he started but i guess it was about 5years ago??????????????

You should read the date on the post..

cheeky bugger.


Nope, the engine arrived from long term storage in ~Jan (but the plan had been worked through for a little longer than that).
Easter 2010 saw the final demise of the mighty TF100 (at that stage ~18 years old. read: had been used for bucket racing for ~18 years) So we ramped up the development.

Originally it was going in a TZ125 frame I had picked up from Japan. The Crazyman (after much convincing) started my TZR250 project (which just happened to fit the TZR125/100 as well).

Finished in time for the Taupo GP last year (in fact the Friday before driving up was the first run; after getting back from my honeymoon); and while I finished the 2011GP well down the order; i was one of the few Two strokers left running.... :woohoo:

The last 10 months have been sorting out all the little issues with an unknown build; incremental improvements...

so HUSA hows the NSR coming along?:innocent:

[husaberg]

You should read the date on the post..

cheeky bugger.


Nope, the engine arrived from long term storage in ~Jan (but the plan had been worked through for a little longer than that).
Easter 2010 saw the final demise of the mighty TF100 (at that stage ~18 years old. read: had been used for bucket racing for ~18 years) So we ramped up the development.

Originally it was going in a TZ125 frame I had picked up from Japan. The Crazyman (after much convincing) started my TZR250 project (which just happened to fit the TZR125/100 as well).

Finished in time for the Taupo GP last year (in fact the Friday before driving up was the first run; after getting back from my honeymoon); and while I finished the 2011GP well down the order; i was one of the few Two strokers left running.... :woohoo:

The last 10 months have been sorting out all the little issues with an unknown build; incremental improvements...

so HUSA hows the NSR coming along?:innocent:

I don't know if its the setting on the computer here but its not displaying the date?
There is some news on the NSR but it will have to wait just a little bit more. Vanessa has taken a bit of a twist.

[Bert]

I don't know if its the setting on the computer here but its not displaying the date?
There is some news on the NSR but it will have to wait just a little bit more. Vanessa has taken a bit of a twist.

What did you decide to go Yamaha :yes:

[husaberg]

What did you decide to go Yamaha :yes:

Twist not bent:laugh:

Out of interest Brent when did you start?

[Bert]

Twist not bent:laugh:

Out of interest Brent when did you start?

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

1994  was my first GP at Ohakea; not old enough to drink by a long shot (but have a memory of sitting in the mess afterwards)..:innocent:

Right the answer to the question about the TZR100:
Jan 2010 the wooden box arrived from the UK (from long term storage).
April-june 2010 the piston sorted and sleeve done.
September 2010 head machined for insert.
October2010 frame started
Jan 2011 Frame fitment resolved for TZR100
then the rest was history.
so only a year from ground up. the last year has been slow progress due to other things going on.

[husaberg]

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

1994  was my first GP at Ohakea; not old enough to drink by a long shot (but have a memory of sitting in the mess afterwards)..:innocent:

er i meant the Yamaha TZR100

[Bert]

Huummmm Interesting.

.......
Some work to do..... :facepalm:
Dyno plot is 6000 - 12000
277661

The ignition curve and servo opening are attached.

So we leaned it off by dropping the needle (which slightly improved things); but me thinks ignition and servo adjustments may be required.


Well slowly improved it (following everyones advice)

at least its not a hole any more.

three of the best: (needle lifted one groove to rich it up; while testing)
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Servo & ignition
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we tried to advance it more between 8-10k but didn't really seem to help (didn't take of photo).

servo closed to half open also didn't seem to be significantly different the bottom end; thus set it at half open; to reduce the open/closing required.

comparison to Crazyman's FXR.... more work required

[richban]

Well slowly improved it (following everyones advice)

at least its not a hole any more.

three of the best: (needle lifted one groove to rich it up; while testing)
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Servo & ignition
277767277768

we tried to advance it more between 8-10k but didn't really seem to help (didn't take of photo).

servo closed to half open also didn't seem to be significantly different the bottom end; thus set it at half open; to reduce the open/closing required.

comparison to Crazyman's FXR.... more work required



Is it the Pipe got another one you can bug on and test??????

[Bert]

My God its great having a dyno.
But we are still learning the software and the rescaling of the graphs (changes to weather conditions) had me a little stumped; at times we were going backwards...
hence great to over plot Crazymans FXR for a consistent comparison.


So; over the past week Crazyman and myself have been making some changes and have managed to improve things a little (60 odd dyno runs later; toooo very tempting to make gross changes).

Change 1. Session 2
Following Wobs advice better regarding setting up the Ignitech... and bulked up the advance a little and changed the way the servo opens.


Change 2. Session 3
Modified the stinger tube (added in a reducer, stepping it down to 20mm ID from 24mm ID).
it is still a standard RS125 pipe & it seems to still be only recording ~400 degrees in the header; so there is still work to be done I think (more reading to be done about this).

Change 3. Session 3
Swaped to a modified 31mm PWK (re-profiled bell mouth) and improved the response in the mid range (worked on finding the correct pilot, needle & main jet combo).


Session 2. Sunday vs. last week
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Session 3. So here's a comparison with the best run we achieved monday night:
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And well the target is Crazymans FXR so here's the slow improvements:
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Still got a hole; but its slowly getting better as we uncover the different issues.

Staggering to think that I've been racing this around for nearly a year in this state. But at least it has forced me to ride harder in the corners and sort out myself..

[F5 Dave]

Looking good. Every bit as good as my 100 last time I had it out.

[Bert]

Team GPR Race Date Calendar

Click me (http://www.gprnz.com/GPR-Race-Date.html)

Only did it as wifey keeps wanting to know all the dates..... then forgets and asks again... then again.... then again.... you get the picture....

Looks like March might get me in the dog box.....

[seymour14]

Team GPR Race Date Calendar

Click me (http://www.gprnz.com/GPR-Race-Date.html)

Only did it as wifey keeps wanting to know all the dates.....

Great stuff, very partial to buckets of beer and bullshit! :drinkup:

Looks like you might have a GP to put on soon as well.

[Henk]

Team GPR Race Date Calendar

Click me (http://www.gprnz.com/GPR-Race-Date.html)

Only did it as wifey keeps wanting to know all the dates..... then forgets and asks again... then again.... then again.... you get the picture....

Looks like March might get me in the dog box.....

Stick her birthday and your wedding anniversary in there as well. Might save some grief later on.

[seymour14]

Seeing there has been a lot of debate on rules and such, time for me to revert to enjoying Buckets for what it is.

So being the least motorcycle sports minded of the Griffiths boys, I am building (along with grateful help from my bro the Crazyman) a new FX125/FXR 150 hybrid.

It's only a hybrid because I am using leftovers from another FXR in the shed, and a Suzuki FX125 scooter that I picked up for nicks (this is my donor engine). First thing of note is that outwardly the engine seems the same, but once out of the scooter and being "negotiated" into it's new home, it became apparent that the oil cooler is mounted ever so slightly higher in the scooter and will need dropping down, more annoyingly was the fact that the engine sprocket only protrudes about half the distance out from the engine as an FXR's one does!

Combination of work on the front sprocket to bring it outwards, and the rear hub to move the rear sprocket inboard , should account for this and get me good chain alignment again.

(Just noting all this as we go for anyone who finds themselves doing a similar experiment).

My donor fuel tank is dented and has the "Swiss cheese" factor along the bottom, some work to do there!

Otherwise it is worth noting that the usual alterations and disc grinder work is going to happen soon, remove all the Mig wire strands that are poking out of the usual FXR frame! Work so far amounts to 4 hours. Nice for anyone who wonders how long a build might take, and I am a novice at this.

In the long run the engine will get worked, for now I want to use it under powered as is (13hp on Dyno). Better to work on good racing technique then to have it all from day one in my view! You learn how to get the most out of an under powered bike before the move to something better.

Interestingly, an FX125 has a five speed box, with slightly different gearing in 3rd and 4th from memory, might prove good on smaller tracks, but will struggle at Taupo me thinks!

Couple of photos, me and my boys, and the FX125.

[Henk]

Just nylon up the 125, will look way better than all those rough looking FXRs and hybrids out there at the moment.

[Yow Ling]

Just nylon up the 125, will look way better than all those rough looking FXRs and hybrids out there at the moment.

And imagine the embarrassment of getting done by a step thru.

[Kickaha]

And imagine the embarrassment of getting done by a step thru.
I'd have to crash out before that happened

[seymour14]

I'd have to crash out before that happened

Yes, crash into me while I'm being lapped!

[crazy man]

brock footpeg and crashed bike bugger it . now it wont change gears( more work)

[Henk]

Easy fix, I assume it's the usual. Lie the bike down on its side, take off the RH engine cover, put the selector forks back in the right place. Reassembly is a simple reversal of the dis assembly process.

But you knew all that.

[Bert]

Seeing there has been a lot of debate on rules and such, time for me to revert to enjoying Buckets for what it is.

So being the least motorcycle sports minded of the Griffiths boys, I am building (along with grateful help from my bro the Crazyman) a new FX125/FXR 150 hybrid.

It's only a hybrid because I am using leftovers from another FXR in the shed, and a Suzuki FX125 scooter that I picked up for nicks (this is my donor engine). ......

Combination of work on the front sprocket to bring it outwards, and the rear hub to move the rear sprocket inboard , should account for this and get me good chain alignment again.

Couple of photos, me and my boys, and the FX125.

The next generation of GPR in the making; get them hooked young....
Have you had a chance to teach them how to clean & polish yet.

We better start planning on how we are going to transport all these Team GPR bikes, maybe we all chip in for a truck:
Click Me (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=561651863)

[crazy man]

Easy fix, I assume it's the usual. Lie the bike down on its side, take off the RH engine cover, put the selector forks back in the right place. Reassembly is a simple reversal of the dis assembly process.

But you knew all that.did not know but just going to find out as l went . now l know l dont use a big hammer lol thanks (-;

[crazy man]

The next generation of GPR in the making; get them hooked young....
Have you had a chance to teach them how to clean & polish yet.

We better start planning on how we are going to transport all these Team GPR bikes, maybe we all chip in for a truck:
Click Me (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=561651863)that is not a bad truck

[husaberg]

that is not a bad truck

If it is a horse truck the indicators don't work for a start. Also it for some reason is never able to pull over in passing lanes and won't be able to exceed 70kph someone is trying to pass it:lol:

[crazy man]

If it is a horse truck the indicators don't work for a start. Also it for some reason is never able to pull over in passing lanes and won't be able to exceed 70kph someone is trying to pass it:lol:sounds like my bucket a slow heap of crap

[husaberg]

sounds like my bucket a slow heap of crap

no its not, and as well as being faster than berts unlike mine it is assembled and all the bits are located on only one of New Zealand's islands

[Pumba]

......maybe we all chip in for a truck:
Click Me (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=561651863)

don't be such a cheap arse. Reckon this would make a pretty mean race transporter for a weekend away

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/trucks/horse-trucks/auction-526625045.htm

[koba]

Gotta love: "has some rust in it but it is surface"...:killingme

[seymour14]

Right, here we go, shaky as ever, but better then nothing!


http://youtu.be/XCcWCpjpoiQ

[crazy man]

l like the race were rich takes of and hits f5dave and looks like dave puts the punch in lol classic

[seymour14]

l like the race were rich takes of and hits f5dave and looks like dave puts the punch in lol classic

Yeah that ones coming, got to have some agro to get the job done! Ding ding, round two is coming!! :cool:

[F5 Dave]

erm huh? Must have missed that. He hit us in the first race when Regan all but stopped out of the hairpin & All I saw was the curved tailpipe & thought best I avoid that. Rich assumed there was a gap. Opps.


The above race I was just hoping the bike wouldn't cut out so was going just enough to get on front row.

[seymour14]

Took two hours to upload, so I will give the others a rest tonight, will get them up over the coming days.


http://youtu.be/5EM0eB7Sdb4

Yep, there is a punch thrown, lets get it on!!!!!!

[seymour14]

Yep, there is a punch thrown, lets get it on!!!!!![/QUOTE]

I think more to the point we need a booze bus to test Richban (or maybe his bike? Running on alcohol maybe?).

Please walk a straight line number 45! :eek:

[kel]

I think more to the point we need a booze bus to test Richban (or maybe his bike? Running on alcohol maybe?).

Rich and exotic fuels, word spreads fast.
Apparently its just plain old Av gas (5% toxic Tetraethyllead and all), a bit of extra compression and an ignitech for a few more revs. At least thats the info the bucket rumour vine has been plied with.
And does he get away in that first race or what!

[F5 Dave]

Haha, yeah it sort of looks like that doesn't it. Certainly punching him was the last thing on my mind, I have little recollection but I think I was just trying to fend him off as he veered into me & I didn't want him to fall on me. Did scupper my start a bit.

My son is sitting on my knee having not seen me race & pointing at the dots on the screen saying "Little Moitorboike, Little Moitorboike". Pah, kids, hard to impress.

[seymour14]

[QUOTE=F5 Dave;1130506123]Haha, yeah it sort of looks like that doesn't it. Certainly punching him was the last thing on my mind, I have little recollection but I think I was just trying to fend him off as he veered into me & I didn't want him to fall on me. Did scupper my start a bit.

I think you were just giving him a gentle reminder of which direction he should be going.

Speaking of which, what were you doing Crazyman? That start looked a little intoxicated!!

[F5 Dave]

yeah ideally not over me. My bike is lower & smaller than most so you do feel like a mini with a lorry passing close by. The lorry is Rich:lol:

[richban]

Yep, there is a punch thrown, lets get it on!!!!!!

I think more to the point we need a booze bus to test Richban (or maybe his bike? Running on alcohol maybe?).

[/QUOTE]


The rider runs on caffeine and sugar. Good old coca cola. Bike runs on ground up 2 strokes and avgas. About a 10 / 90 mix works well.

[seymour14]

GPRNZ at Kaitoke & Crazyman proudly starting a new fashion trend of tiedown trouser belts! :lol:

[seymour14]

First B-Grade race from Kaitoke, 24th February, 2013.


http://youtu.be/gF3eBJiug6A

Bit of motard stuff to gain a spot or two!

[Str8 Jacket]

GPRNZ at Kaitoke & Crazyman proudly starting a new fashion trend of tiedown trouser belts! :lol:

Better than the arse crack look he was sporting at the beginning of the day! :)

[crazy man]

Better than the arse crack look he was sporting at the beginning of the day! :)crap! but bert was another matter lol

[seymour14]

crap! but bert was another matter lol

Don't worry bro, I think your look will catch on.

Great race Bert, talk about a tight finish, good job in getting a back marker in the way at the right moment. Well done!

[Bert]

First B-Grade race from Kaitoke, 24th February, 2013.

Bit of motard stuff to gain a spot or two!

That one got a little closer at the end than I thought; engine slowly getting hotter and slower each lap... only just managed to hold George out on the line...

Great vid work Seymour; keep them coming.


Don't worry bro, I think your look will catch on.

Great race Bert, talk about a tight finish, good job in getting a back marker in the way at the right moment. Well done!

Would have been toast without the back marker...

[crazy man]

yes Great vid work Seymour , when we are in a rest home one day we will think of you watching this

[seymour14]

yes Great vid work Seymour , when we are in a rest home one day we will think of you watching this

I'm already in a rest home, I work at Massey.

Eeeeeeaaassy Money!!! :cool:

[koba]

It is really cool that you take time to video these events.

I'm just getting old enough now to understand nostalgia.
This will definitely help colour some fond memories in the future.

[seymour14]

I am watching too much of that My Kitchen Rules, bloody Indian Cows!!!! Ha Ha, waiting for some backlash.

Here comes the second A-Grade race from the weekend, get your race face on lads!! ;)

http://youtu.be/-AOvJXYqaGs

[richban]

I am watching too much of that My Kitchen Rules, bloody Indian Cows!!!! Ha Ha, waiting for some backlash.

Here comes the second A-Grade race from the weekend, get your race face on lads!! ;)

http://youtu.be/-AOvJXYqaGs


God I am shit at starts these days. Must work on that. I am looking forward to number 3. Hope you captured the dodgy move on Regan around the outside. I was not sure it was going to work out. bloody great fun.

[kel]

Bike runs on ground up 2 strokes and avgas. About a 10 / 90 mix works well.

I guess that makes for a cheap fuel what with all the readily available broken 2 strokes :pinch:

[seymour14]

Just a snippet of this. After realizing I was fast running out of tape, I made an executive decision to keep enough for the A-Grade race and hopefully enough for some of the third B-Grade.

Tallyho!!


http://youtu.be/-Cosl1pAMUE

[seymour14]

All go I hope, this downloaded for three hours or more over two days! Don't ask me how, but when I signed in to have another go at it, this video just carried on uploading from where it left off the night previous, I am hopeful there is no disjointed parts in this film.


http://youtu.be/kkOGMyQ8M6g

[Rick 52]

Great vids Seymour cheers

[seymour14]

Third B-Grade race that was red flagged about 10 seconds after my tape ran out! Two front runner fallers coming down off the hill causing a red card. Restarted race was not tapable without wiping another race, so bededbedebede that's all folks!


http://youtu.be/RAcGA57BpVU

[crazy man]

yay just bought me a bucket

[seymour14]

yay just bought me a bucket

Watcha got this time Crazybro?

[crazy man]

Watcha got this time Crazybro?a stock fxr150

[crazy man]

just put it on the dyno, 13.7 hp. at lease i know the dyno reads a bit lower than higher. the 2 stock ones l had on my old dynojet 150 were 14.2 and 14.3

[F5 Dave]

clean the airfilter

[crazy man]

clean the airfiltersounds like hard work (-; need to start on my new framr for it somtime after berts

[crazy man]

279464my new f3 bike . will be like riding a grunty bucket

[Rick 52]

Now that looks cool...want one!!

[seymour14]

279464my new f3 bike . will be like riding a grunty bucket

Seen this in the flesh, watch out F3, Crazyman's a coming!! :crazy::crazy::ar15::brick::crazy:

[crazy man]

Now that looks cool...want one!!its such a nice little motor for the size of it

[seymour14]

its such a nice little motor for the size of it

What's your time frame like for the build? Love to see this little beastie on your Dyno!

[Bert]

279464
my new f3 bike . will be like riding a grunty bucket

Nice; Bloody hell mate that is soooo cool now rolling.
:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::c lap::clap:

[NOID]

that is so cool crazy man :cool::cool::cool::cool: !!! new wall paper on my PC at work ;)

[NOID]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/manawatu-standard/sport/8393890/Racing-family-has-buckets-of-power

[crazy man]

get rid of that wight up it could not be more wrong if they tryed

[NOID]

i had the same thing last week, got to love the Press for there twisting of the truth/facts to make the news more interesting / sell more papers etc

Soon they will say that you are all running for a spot on NZ got talent also :lol: :lol: :lol:

[crazy man]

i had the same thing last week, got to love the Press for there twisting of the truth/facts to make the news more interesting / sell more papers etc

Soon they will say that you are all running for a spot on NZ got talent also :lol: :lol: :lol:yer and some how we have won 10 gp's

[NOID]

yer and some how we havent won 10 gp's

what it should say

[F5 Dave]

At least the 2 strokes are most visible. Result.

[NOID]

are my eyes playing tricks with me ( or how meny bikes have spawned/populated in your shed since i was last out there) ? ? or is one of those bikes Berts ? ?

[GSVR]

Is this the thread for Team Torque Up ?

[crazy man]

Is this the thread for Team Torque Up ?yes it is old man ? may put your face over mine

[seymour14]

If you saw what I wrote into the paper and what they have written you would cry! What a complete and utter balls up!

I have rung up the Standard and given them a blast, and they (I hope) will change the write up online. I told them that Palmerston North had more National Titles then any other part of the country, and somehow they wrote they we had 10 titles and were better then everyone else put together! I almost cried.

My apologies, if you saw my write up compared with theirs you would see no resemblance at all. I am off to hang myself! :(:facepalm:

I hope they at least amend the online one.

[NOID]

[QUOTE]I am off to hang myself! :(:facepalm:.[QUOTE]


Can i have your bike then ? ? :2thumbsup

[seymour14]

[QUOTE]I am off to hang myself! :(:facepalm:.[QUOTE]


Can i have your bike then ? ? :2thumbsup

I am riding over a cliff on it with a noose round my neck. By all means salvage what you can.

See you in Bucket Heaven, oh hang on....I smell burning.......:bye::bye:

[bogan]

Apart from the titles bit (did they think there was only one title every 2 years :facepalm:) its not too shabby. I've seen em butcher worse anyway.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/manawatu-standard/sport/8393890/Racing-family-has-buckets-of-power

[jasonu]

If you saw what I wrote into the paper and what they have written you would cry! What a complete and utter balls up!

I have rung up the Standard and given them a blast, and they (I hope) will change the write up online. I told them that Palmerston North had more National Titles then any other part of the country, and somehow they wrote they we had 10 titles and were better then everyone else put together! I almost cried.

My apologies, if you saw my write up compared with theirs you would see no resemblance at all. I am off to hang myself! :(:facepalm:

I hope they at least amend the online one.

Mate any and all publicity is good publicity.

[husaberg]

get rid of that wight up it could not be more wrong if they tryed

so three bikes @ $1000 each thats $3000
Can you tee up the freight for me as well :2thumbsup


Shit happens the actual fact's are normally irrelevant to reporters and editors.

[crazy man]

so three bikes @ $1000 each thats $3000
Can you tee up the freight for me as well :2thumbsup


Shit happens the actual fact's are normally irrelevant to reporters and editors.meant to be the price for a cheap bucket but ok you have have my xl125 for 1 grand

[chrisc]

I'm wondering:
a) how your GPR FXR bike isn't ridiculously loud? (unless the exhaust has been changes since this photo)
b) why the exhaust is quite long? Compared to an estimate from this calculator (http://www.mez.co.uk/mezporting/exhaust_length.html) based on "Four-stroke Performance Tuning by Graham Bell". I'd love to know more where possible :D

http://www.gprnz.com/blogs/files/GPR004b.jpg

[crazy man]

I'm wondering:
a) how your GPR FXR bike isn't ridiculously loud? (unless the exhaust has been changes since this photo)
b) why the exhaust is quite long? Compared to an estimate from this calculator (http://www.mez.co.uk/mezporting/exhaust_length.html) based on "Four-stroke Performance Tuning by Graham Bell". I'd love to know more where possible :D

http://www.gprnz.com/blogs/files/GPR004b.jpga new muffer has been made but that did look cool at the time . l built 2 engines the same one in my bike and that one . mine has the short exharst but is down 1.5 hp through the hole range but that one has a biggger carb so until l try both l dont know whats giving it the extra power

[GSVR]

While on the subject what do these exhaust bits do?

[NOID]

my nice FMF power core that Ive got siting in my shed of a CRF150 has a chamber like that, am hoping to test it on the dyno to see if makes any more/less power

[F5 Dave]

Extract money from dirtbike riders

[Pumba]

While on the subject what do these exhaust bits do?

I know when I built my exhaust it was discussed, but it never happened. Something about scavanging and pressure realease, or energy waves, meh somthin like that.

From what I read after that I link the same affect can be achieved in a different way, but my memory is way sketcy on the details.

Daves comment is probally the most acurate one. That and it somthing to wank on about int the pits.

[F5 Dave]

I think the main question most dirtbike riders would ask during purchase is "What kind of sticker set comes with it?"

PS before people take offence, I'm a dirt rider too. but please take offence, that's the point of the internerd.

[husaberg]

I think the main question most dirtbike riders would ask during purchase is "What kind of sticker set comes with it?"

PS before people take offence, I'm a dirt rider too. but please take offence, that's the point of the internerd.

Much as it pains me i sure do agree with Dave there. (maybe no driving for me tonight then:drinkup:
Those stickers sure make it look fast LOL

I have posted how the bombs work before plus the other style canisters but the biggest gains are... they are a little quieter.

Trainee at work just bought himself some Ti valves for his CRF i tried to tell him it an't going to make him as fast a fixing the leaking suspension would, but obviously wasn't as cool.
I don't think he has noticed yet he will need new guides and seats yet either (springs and retainer too likely as well lol)

[Henk]

Best way to make your dirt bike faster? Spend the time riding it instead of snickering it up. My poor old 2001 400exc looks like shit, didn't't stop me peeling past a guy on a mint 08 version of the same bike that was six months old at the time. He mentioned it to a mutual friend along the lines of "guy on a seriously ratty old one of these just made me look stupid" response was "yeah I think I know him, has cut most of the tracks in this part of the forest and spent way too much time riding here" shiny shit doesn't make you faster, just makes your bike heavier.

[Bert]

Best way to make your dirt bike faster? Spend the time riding it instead of snickering it up. My poor old 2001 400exc looks like shit, didn't't stop me peeling past a guy on a mint 08 version of the same bike that was six months old at the time. He mentioned it to a mutual friend along the lines of "guy on a seriously ratty old one of these just made me look stupid" response was "yeah I think I know him, has cut most of the tracks in this part of the forest and spent way too much time riding here" shiny shit doesn't make you faster, just makes your bike heavier.

too true; my lovely old 98 SX125 untouched since new (apart from the required engine works) and showing every year its age; but is a barrel of laughs and use to make a significant number of modern bikes look silly (and probability the best performing bike in the shed)....
but lack of time has pushed her further back in the dark corner....:weep:


Anyway; stop talking about MX bikes; this is a bucket thread.

Team Talk up :nya: has pushed their way north yesterday and I believe likely to be set up and ready to go. Can't wait to see the videos.

[chrisc]

42.955s! What a freakish time!

[crazy man]

42.955s! What a freakish time!thats one for regan for the record book (-: l did not think he could do it

[richban]

thats one for regan for the record book (-: l did not think he could do it

Sweet. Plug that one in the lap record thread.

[seymour14]

A-Grade 10 lapper. (1st race).


http://youtu.be/TJBSClpppGY

[seymour14]

A-Grade 10 lapper. (1st race).


http://youtu.be/TJBSClpppGY

Second video in about 20 minutes. (6:30ish). Best of the three races. Good tussle between Ken & Crazyman, amongst others.

[crazy man]

yes somthing biting with my cluch but put my body ford later on

[seymour14]

Great teatime viewing. Te Puke, second A-Grade race (15 laps).


http://youtu.be/gEzQqfYxhsg

[crazy man]

279848the real pic

[seymour14]

279848the real pic

This is obviously the photo of us before they doctored it up in the Manawatu Standard. Grab your banjo's brothers!!!! :bleh:

[saxet]

Once again, great vidoes.Thanks for filming and posting.
That track looks like fun.

[seymour14]

This is race three from Te Puke, taped it until the results looked foregone and everyone had gapped their rivals. Some taping at Roys Hill and I think that will be a job well done, shall try and get a lot of our GP also. Don't know if I can keep this up next season, it may take a lot of liquor therapy to regenerate those filming hands of mine! :drinknsin


http://youtu.be/rGfKIHpjYy8

[Bert]

Ladies and Gentlemen.

We will be putting in an order for some Vortex Honda Rs125 sprockets (415) from the States (next Friday).

As per normal; the larger the order size, the better the overall shipping cost per unit will work out.

$72 NZD (unless the dollar asses out). plus proportion of shipping.

Tooth/sizes: 30-57.

279943

PM or drop past out website....:niceone:

EDIT

Watch this space I might have a better price...

[seymour14]

Some more "blasts from the past", some more old Mitre 10 Videos from Palmy North from 1999.


http://youtu.be/w7Kf1UyKBko

Off to my sister's 21st today, shall recover before Roys Hill (touch wood). Have a great day all. :cool:

[Henk]

You guys bringing the trike to Roy's Hill? If not ours will probably stay at home as well.

[seymour14]

You guys bringing the trike to Roy's Hill? If not ours will probably stay at home as well.

Have had a word with Crazyman, he is going to have another crack at sorting the steering out, all being equal we should be able to make Roys Hill. I will leave the last word with him, but I am keen. May need to give him the week to see if he can fit it in.:corn:

[seymour14]

First A-Grade race from Roys Hill. :yes:


http://youtu.be/I2XBB_welHg

Sorry about the shaking, it was windy in the tower and Rapunzel could not keep her hands off me. :blink:

[richban]

First A-Grade race from Roys Hill. :yes:


http://youtu.be/I2XBB_welHg

Sorry about the shaking, it was windy in the tower and Rapunzel could not keep her hands off me. :blink:

Ooh man that looked like fun. Regan the hole shot king, what a start.

[seymour14]

Ooh man that looked like fun. Regan the hole shot king, what a start.

Yeah, really is his thing alright, shame about Kieran's little indescretion at the start, but he and Brian certainly had a major collision on that front straight, it was good to see them both bounce back up in a hurry, quite the crash!

Did not get Regan's big off in the second race, but I will see what he captures on his onboard camera, you'll notice that Regan just disappears from the footage a few laps in, he is in fact standing at the end of the main straight after a real stinger of a fall, bet his knee ain't to flash today! Notice too that there is no such thing as team orders in our camp either, as Crazyman and Reg almost have a coming together at the end of the front straight on the first lap (half hour till that footage is posted).

See ya all soon.

[kel]

Regan the hole shot king, what a start.
Very cool start, the grass obviously had great traction! What about the jump start from row 4, looks like the rider thought the green flag being placed up in the air meant go :no:

[seymour14]

Very cool start, the grass obviously had great traction! What about the jump start from row 4, looks like the rider thought the green flag being placed up in the air meant go :no:

Yes, Kieran said his clutch was slipping badly and just had to go, he was the inside faller on the front straight crash, the two locked handlebars it appears.

[seymour14]

Tighten your helmet and away we go again.


http://youtu.be/GelucG89IUs

[crazy man]

Very cool start, the grass obviously had great traction! What about the jump start from row 4, looks like the rider thought the green flag being placed up in the air meant go :no:lol yer he must be from:facepalm: Auckland

[wildman]

Hey Crazyman you going to bring your tricycle to Tokoroa, fixed the back end of mine and hopefully the chain stays on now. Have even fitted the big bore kit so should have at least 10 hp:killingme

[seymour14]

Hey Crazyman you going to bring your tricycle to Tokoroa, fixed the back end of mine and hopefully the chain stays on now. Have even fitted the big bore kit so should have at least 10 hp:killingme

The bro is extremely busy leading up to the event, did not sound hopeful, will offer my woeful talents to help push it along!

Meanwhile, here is a slightly different view for Race 3 from Roys Hill.


http://youtu.be/0Udv646QAoM

[Bert]

Crash protection Option: Fairings.... it seems to me that even nylon will cause issues as the bigger the impact (on the smaller number of points) the bigger the mess.

lets make up some rotary moulded fairings and spread the impact load. nice simple shape like these Metrakits Pre125; but make them 4 panels so they can be replaced easily.
Add this to the swingarm covers & top triple clamp covers; that we have discussed..

Sounds like another winter project.

Weight... who give 2 F##ks if we can't race on tracks then we have 80kgs of wasted weight anyway....


http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=78600&d=1326403497

http://www.motormadrid.com/fotos/metrakit/preGP_125_2006.jpg

OK so for my next bit of thinking is track damage...
As a group of riders we are all responsible for this happening. so we need to come up with a solution that we can offer up when by chance (and all best intentions) the worst happens.
The repair option that comes to mind is some form of epoxy or rubber sealing compound that can be used to not only fill the gouge but bond the side surfaces to reduce the risk of further "break away" asphalt.

it might be worth looking into something like this:
https://pass.partsmaster.com/webimages/miscfiles/DownloadLink/EntertainMega-Patch.pdf

or have a look at the AK10 (rubber compound melter); don't think this would offer any grip...
http://www.asphaltkingdom.com/video-center.html

Ramsets two pot epoxy:
http://www.ramset.co.nz/products/products_constructionchemicals_crack_injection.htm l

polyurea joint filler (designed to be mixed with dried aggregates to form a textured fill):
http://www.chemcosystems.com/ccs_grouts.html

More to come on this topic

[worm13]

Yeah, really is his thing alright, shame about Kieran's little indescretion at the start, but he and Brian certainly had a major collision on that front straight, it was good to see them both bounce back up in a hurry, quite the crash!

Did not get Regan's big off in the second race, but I will see what he captures on his onboard camera, you'll notice that Regan just disappears from the footage a few laps in, he is in fact standing at the end of the main straight after a real stinger of a fall, bet his knee ain't to flash today! Notice too that there is no such thing as team orders in our camp either, as Crazyman and Reg almost have a coming together at the end of the front straight on the first lap (half hour till that footage is posted).

See ya all soon.

so nothings changed over the last 14 years then?? pretty talented crashers them boys :P

[crazy man]

it lives ! the gt 50 fired up for the first time sints the foxton gp! and sounds good

[seymour14]

it lives ! the gt 50 fired up for the first time sints the foxton gp! and sounds good

Don't flip it on the road Crazybro! You know what a mean beastie that GT was!!

Great stuff, better get the GPRNZ Stig all fired up to ride it! :woohoo:

[crazy man]

Don't flip it on the road Crazybro! You know what a mean beastie that GT was!!

Great stuff, better get the GPRNZ Stig all fired up to ride it! :woohoo:it was the rd that did the road damage. ok first dyno run after that time . timed up the shit and killed 2 plugs it made 11.5 hp and 5.5 foot pound torque. so aiming for 14 like i was told it had

[seymour14]

it was the rd that did the road damage. ok first dyno run after that time . timed up the shit and killed 2 plugs it made 11.5 hp and 5.5 foot pound torque. so aiming for 14 like i was told it had

14HP sounds alright, who told you that? I thought 11HP out of a 50 sounded alright.

Does the old man want me round to do that train cam tomorrow? That thing weighs the same as an FXR motor!

[koba]

14HP sounds alright, who told you that? I thought 11HP out of a 50 sounded alright.


11 was how much ponies my 100 packed for quite some time.
Now it's fallen back down to zero.

[F5 Dave]

it lives ! the gt 50 fired up for the first time sints the foxton gp! and sounds good
Awesome, good to hear. 14?!:gob: That might have been Mr King salesman talking.

[crazy man]

Awesome, good to hear. 14?!:gob: That might have been Mr King salesman talking.pete said as well but hey it was not the best of dyno's

[crazy man]

280957at 12.5 hp now . could someone with this kind of hp let me no ruffy what size main jet to run? was 11.35 with a 132 main now just over 12.5 with a 122 main . just dont have the time to play with it as l need to get some better wheels and tires on it than the 20 year old ones on it

[worm13]

280957at 12.5 hp now . could someone with this kind of hp let me no ruffy what size main jet to run? was 11.35 with a 132 main now just over 12.5 with a 122 main . just dont have the time to play with it as l need to get some better wheels and tires on it than the 20 year old ones on it

hahahaha thats never stoped you before..... with that sorta HP you better use the the 750 wheels just so you can have the twin disc to pull her up with :)

[F5 Dave]

280957at 12.5 hp now . could someone with this kind of hp let me no ruffy what size main jet to run? was 11.35 with a 132 main now just over 12.5 with a 122 main . just dont have the time to play with it as l need to get some better wheels and tires on it than the 20 year old ones on it
Yer kidding right? There isn't another engine like that in existence & you want me to guess mainjet size?

If it helps my 50 runs a 240. Just throw some jets at it & make sure its not too lean. That's great 50 power & will be right up there.

[crazy man]

Yer kidding right? There isn't another engine like that in existence & you want me to guess mainjet size?

If it helps my 50 runs a 240. Just throw some jets at it & make sure its not too lean. That's great 50 power & will be right up there.thanks l just want to know if its close . always thought it had a 120 in it .

[jasonu]

Yer kidding right? There isn't another engine like that in existence & you want me to guess mainjet size?

If it helps my 50 runs a 240. Just throw some jets at it & make sure its not too lean. That's great 50 power & will be right up there. in the F4 class

[crazy man]

at 13hp now so will leave it at that . just wheels now. think with some time 14hp is achevable

[seymour14]

Just found this little humdinger from 2000? Feel really old looking at that pic, notice we never got the sponsored rides boys?

I think having read this, it may be the same reporter who did my latest report, some of it sounds a bit dodgy!

[crazy man]

not the wright up l remember but do remember it

[F5 Dave]

at 13hp now so will leave it at that . just wheels now. think with some time 14hp is achevable

that old thing's a honey, probably about 2 more than mine currently, but hopefully will redress that with non leaking seals.

[seymour14]

Havn't had some onboard stuff for a while, so here's Crazyman's first race from Roys Hill.

Grab a grappling hook, and go catch that #92.:scooter:


http://youtu.be/xkNk_GiFArk

[Bert]

The aftermath of Roys Hill; a cold (not enough Port or rum me thinks) and a gearbox fill of yoghurt (a stuffed impossible to find waterpump shaft seal) which explained the over heating and filled catch bottle.
The engine has been removed and stripped again this week (I should just come back from racing and pull the engine out as a matter of course).

Managed to find some smaller seals at SKF Palmerston North (right on closing; big ups to the only staff member there, whom stayed open and solve the problem on a Saturday).
Afternoon spent machining up a shim to accept the smaller seal size and making new gaskets (thanks Crazyman for the Lathe).
Small adjustment to the Barrel (lifted to sort out the transfers) and modification to head to suit
Motor back in the frame. Half the bolts left to tighten up then back on the dyno to reduce the HOLE some more....

gotta love buckets... :headbang:

SideNote: Friday night there was a very happy man (will remain nameless) from Wellington; whom picked up his newly built GPR150 motor (from GPR headquarters) and did a few Dyno runs after installing it in his frame. Sounds great and performed smack on the targeted output (with big broad torque curve with real punch down low)... I suspect he will be in A-grade very soon (I'm not going back to Welly until he is)....

[crazy man]

no rear tire no 50 coming . need a 18inch rear , front l can put a 17 rg wheel on it . think the bike was made to go strate and not around corners going of the crazy fork angle

[F5 Dave]

Thats a shame indeed, had a good dunlop but that went with the H a few years ago.

[crazy man]

Thats a shame indeed, had a good dunlop but that went with the H a few years ago.always next year l guess

[Gigglebutton]

I have some Yokohama Sprints that have been under the house if they are any good to you. Gave them to Speedpro for his Mb50 but his boy has moved on to F4 and he gave them back

[crazy man]

I have some Yokohama Sprints that have been under the house if they are any good to you. Gave them to Speedpro for his Mb50 but his boy has moved on to F4 and he gave them backthink l even have some new ones lying around . was thinking of putting them on but still 15 years old . a pain riding 2 bikes with way diffent grip

[seymour14]

Looks like it is F4 or nothing then. Sidecar and 50 a non starter, shame, but I think Regan is happier concentrating on his favourite machine.

Still going to be a lot of fun and I think that F4 race will be a cracker!

[Henk]

Get that sidecar sorted or it may just be two of us wobbling around again.

[husaberg]

I was looking for something today and came across this i though Scott might get a giggle out of it.

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4012/4300516152_e656a2866b.jpghttp://farm3.staticflickr.com/2769/4300516154_e7bcb9d094.jpg
http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4027/4300516148_178497d23b.jpghttp://farm3.staticflickr.com/2448/4300516150_4cc547e532.jpg
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2792/4300516142_c0fc7fa82a.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/46826289@N07/


<img src="http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=275166&d=1356589339" height="340px"/><img src="http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=265979&d=1341568758" height="340px"/>
<img src="http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=265008&d=1339646262" height="340px"/><img src="http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=264695&d=1339142381" height="340px"/>

[crazy man]

what am l looking for . to tired to think

[Bert]

what am l looking for . to tired to think

What Husa is suggesting is that you lovely frames are nicer than someone elses.... :niceone:



no rear tire no 50 coming . need a 18inch rear , front l can put a 17 rg wheel on it . think the bike was made to go strate and not around corners going of the crazy fork angle

Pull the 50 out and put it in my frame (grab my other swingarm and make some mounts)....

[F5 Dave]

The Yokos will be fine, slam em on, free to race another class, just do it..

[crazy man]

The Yokos will be fine, slam em on, free to race another class, just do it..may just do that

[F5 Dave]

Could try find some of that kart tyre doping stuff.

[jasonu]

The Yokos will be fine, slam em on, free to race another class, just do it..

Tru dat sista!!!

[crazy man]

Could try find some of that kart tyre doping stuff.dont think your allowed to use that stuff

[F5 Dave]

not in karting no.

Was a cost saving exercise. People were doping up already stupidly sticky kart tyres & using them for one race, now have to be limited to 1 new set a meeting.

No such rule in MNZ rulebook I've ever seen.

[seymour14]

Any good news Crazybro? What's the story with the 50?

Are we having our usual last minute meeting, where we drink too much, and forget what we talked about in the meeting?

[Bert]

Take at look see at Damien's Photos


Link to photos:
http://flic.kr/s/aHsjEH5bxR
I have over 3000 photos :).
I'll be uploading many more over the next few days.
Damien



look forward to seeing the rest.
So Team GPR members finished well.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/dty1/8648482814/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dty1/8648482814/

[seymour14]

Take at look see at Damien's Photos





look forward to seeing the rest.
So Team GPR members finished well.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/dty1/8648482814/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dty1/8648482814/

We are really happy with the results, Regan even said he was nervous of this one! That first dive into the top corner was a real make or break moment.

Scott is equally delighted, you could throw a blanket over the first two for just about the entire 30 laps of that Formula Tokoroa race!

Real big ups to all the Auckland folks who put this on, it was a true success. Though I'm not sure what it is about you lot that you feel you have to climb every bloody thing that points up from the ground!!! King Kong Camille swatting planes out of the pine tree (no shit), and the usual lets get sozzled and climb the nearest tall thing you can find!!

Sweet weekend, videos and photos are going through a different process this time, and I think Koba, Rich and myself will collude on knocking up a disc or two with all the different footage captured. Keep you all posted on that one.

:woohoo::Punk::wari::sunny::yes:

[Dutchee]

I think whomever booked the weather did pretty good, a bit cooler would've been better, but could live with that, rather than what is looming lol

I'd hoped I could get my head into a better space but figured that watching paint dry was more fun than riding, and the thought of having to wait however long for Henk to lap me a second time was too much agony as he hadn't lapped me the first time, and I hadn't even done 10 laps. It seemed like a practice session, and as I wasn't having any joy with different lines, could not get my brain to move my braking markers, I just needed to get the hell off the track and out of my leathers.

formula Tokoroa was the best race, and well done to the top two on your clean passing, even though some of it looked a bit hairy for those being passed, it was awesome.

Oh, thanks also to everyone for cleaning up after yourselves, much appreciated. Only thing I figured was stupid was me not putting rubbish bags in the toilets, instead of having to empty the bins into bags at the end of the day yesterday.

BTW, it is Kamil :) lol

[seymour14]

Video to come in about 10min. Did not get all, but enough to get a good tasting.

Some pics first.

[seymour14]

Enjoy lads!


http://youtu.be/vN8y29Aq0Fw

[seymour14]

My shot of the chequered flag was not a good one. So here's one of the white flag of surrender to the people chasing F5 Dave!

I will carry on with the other two video's over the next few days (big uploads) and we can splice something at the end as a disc if need be.

[F5 Dave]

Cheers thanks.

[seymour14]

Found some more F5 stuff.

Had a crack at uploading Formula Tokoroa, it told me 366 minutes and I near shit myself. Will have a go tonight and wake up in the morning I think to check for success (or not).

Have watched this race a couple of times now, it is truly riveting, what a battle between Steve and Scott! PM me Steve with some mailing details, and I will flick you a copy of this and Scotty's rear view camera.

Some F5 stuff.

[seymour14]

Some preliminary Formula Tokoroa pics. These I think were qualifying.

[seymour14]

Qualifying and Practise Race images.

[F5 Dave]

Ripper, sadly Telecoma is so slow atm its like trying to download porn on dial up, or so I've heard.

[seymour14]

Ripper, sadly Telecoma is so slow atm its like trying to download porn on dial up, or so I've heard.

Poor old Crazyman is on dull up (dial up) too. Expect he won't get to see much of this till he makes a visit. Heaps more pics, it only lets me put up six at a time.

So here's another 6.

[seymour14]

By all means open the pictures with a double click and then use the right click "save image" if you want a copy.

However, if you need good quality stuff then I suggest you take a good look at Damien's thread. As soon as he pulled out his camera I had an "inferiority" moment!! My camera slunk back into its bag and only came out in covert moments.

Am going to have a crack at uploading Formula Tokoroa race now, see you all tomorrow morning. Fingers crossed.

[seymour14]

This is a beaut!:cool:


http://youtu.be/skM3hx4-H80

[seymour14]

Had a look at Crazyman's rear camera shots tonight...........f*****n awesome!!!

Will make an attempt at getting those up tonight. Some more pics meanwhile....

[seymour14]

Hope to upload Crazyman's rear camera by tomorrow, some GP stuff to follow afterwards.

Regan's onboard took only a few minutes of film before expiring, so several minutes warming up and getting on the grid, and the grand total of only one minute of the race! It is a forward facing shot of the start and that is good enough for me!

[quallman1234]

Great pics Seymour!
But i see a-lot of not enough nylon on some of those bikes. Number 22 and 36. Inconsistent scruinteering eh.

Looks like a really cool event! Wish i could of been ther!

[koba]

But i see a-lot of not enough nylon on some of those bikes.



It might seem a downer to mention this but we really do need to be on top of protecting tracks if we want to keep on doing this.

The pics show quite a few more bike lacking even basic protection, go nuts guys/gals protect everything, all axle ends need nylon, 'bars and pegs are normally protected but make sure its good. Another area I notice lacking is gear/brake foot levers, make them nylon or something.

Spread the word, not everyone reads this so we need it to get around as we don't want to loose any more track privileges!

[seymour14]

Time to ride pillion. Formula Tokoroa.


http://youtu.be/lVIxdlR3AG4

[seymour14]

Taken over the two days of the competition.

[seymour14]

Copy and use what you like.

[richban]

Copy and use what you like.

Hurry up with the GP vid would yah.

[seymour14]

And a few more shots of the fun day racing.

[seymour14]

Hurry up with the GP vid would yah.


Apologies, been a busy weekend, only just getting back onto all this now.

[seymour14]

More F4 action, GP video will be at least 11pm tonight at current upload speeds.

[seymour14]

GP in about 1/2 hour or less.

[seymour14]

Got about 50%, usual issue with my camera batteries, so got the last couple of laps before the batteries went flat. Enjoy.


http://youtu.be/tbYPIk6pvm8

[seymour14]

Tough race, and some well deserved results. Congrats to one and all.

[codgyoleracer]

It might seem a downer to mention this but we really do need to be on top of protecting tracks if we want to keep on doing this.

The pics show quite a few more bike lacking even basic protection, go nuts guys/gals protect everything, all axle ends need nylon, 'bars and pegs are normally protected but make sure its good. Another area I notice lacking is gear/brake foot levers, make them nylon or something.

Spread the word, not everyone reads this so we need it to get around as we don't want to loose any more track privileges!


Got told the other day that the New Plymouth Kart club is seriously considering buckets and motards to be let onto their track on a regular basis , but dependent on nylon skid shit being present.

[koba]

Got told the other day that the New Plymouth Kart club is seriously considering buckets and motards to be let onto their track on a regular basis , but dependent on nylon skid shit being present.

I hope that is more than another rumour...

Skit shit being present is part way there, it also has to work well!

[codgyoleracer]

I hope that is more than another rumour...

Skit shit being present is part way there, it also has to work well!

Nope, came from a local club connected source. Someone in buckets might want to follow up on that.

[seymour14]

Quoting Hitler on Anzac day? I truly have sunk to a new low. :laugh:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MP9oNPzr2Vg

[saxet]

Never thought I'd agree with Hitler.

[richban]

Quoting Hitler on Anzac day? I truly have sunk to a new low. :laugh:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MP9oNPzr2Vg



Pure gold. I gave up on sky 2 years ago.

[F5 Dave]

Or those stupid neanderthals kicking a ball in a paddock before rogering each other in the showers & going home to beat up their missus' after appearing in anti violence campaigns.

[crazy man]

someone needs to change the end saying at least i still have my good old bucket racer videos to watch blar blar :niceone:

[kel]

Quoting Hitler on Anzac day? I truly have sunk to a new low. :laugh:

Hmm not sure about the timing but it is bloody funny (although it did feel a little too fimiliar). I've been telling the mrs the same thing the last couple of years, dump sky, get freeview and motogp.com. But hey I enjoy talking to myself.
I use http://www.vipboxsports.me/sports/moto-gp.html its free! fairly low definition but you get all the practice sessions, qualifying and the races.
Fucking sky sport, the year Simoncelli won the 250 title in Malaysia Sky decided not to show the scheduled race and instead graced our screens with fucking golf!

[crazy man]

http://www.kartsporttaranaki.co.nz/gallery/
looks a new track

[crazy man]

Taken over the two days of the competition.blow up calabs bike it looks like it has a wooden rocker cover on it lol

[seymour14]

blow up calabs bike it looks like it has a wooden rocker cover on it lol

That is a true bucket!

[Rick 52]

blow up calabs bike it looks like it has a wooden rocker cover on it lol
It's bloody fast I know that much, wooden rocker or not !!

[crazy man]

It's bloody fast I know that much, wooden rocker or not !!bloody fast filntstones bikes your right lol

[husaberg]

<img src="http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=281775&d=1366541598" height="420px"/><img src="http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=281774&d=1366541551" height="420px"/>
Spill on this bike please?

[F5 Dave]

Its already got its own thread, owner is intersected by a pole, but that's a trick of the camera

[husaberg]

Its already got its own thread, owner is intersected by a pole, but that's a trick of the camera

Are you going to post a link.... or do i have to look at old police mug shots?

Whanganui came through......http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/157599-Team-ESE-the-darkside/page3

I thought in the time honored KB we would just talk about building a bike for a couple of years.........

PS Dave i have a NSR50 engine. I haven't picked it up but it is likely barks.
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/158261-F5-Dave-s-F5-challenge/page2

[Henk]

Its already got its own thread, owner is intersected by a pole, but that's a trick of the camera

Or the owner is quite good with poles.

[kel]

Are you going to post a link.... or do i have to look at old police mug shots?
They promised the record would be wiped after 7 years ....
This is Gigglebuttons NX4 FXR running Lectron carb, Wiseco piston, GPR cams, ported head (done by yours truly after a couple of beers) see "ESE darkside" thread.
As a side note this is only the base build. Giggles should be happy enough having Jaden Hassan and Glen Orwin as riders, but no, for some reason he thinks he has to arm them with crazy hp to boot.

[husaberg]

They promised the record would be wiped after 7 years ....
This is Gigglebuttons NX4 FXR running Lectron carb, Wiseco piston, GPR cams, ported head (done by yours truly after a couple of beers) see "ESE darkside" thread.
As a side note this is only the base build. Giggles should be happy enough having Jaden Hassan and Glen Orwin as riders, but no, for some reason he thinks he has to arm them with crazy hp to boot.

To tell you the truth i thought it was the Guy from Midnight Oil.
<img src="http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2009/02/24/va1237356690897/Peter-Garrett-6501622.jpg" width="140px"/>

[seymour14]

To tell you the truth i thought it was the Guy from Midnight Oil.

Scott and Regan were decoys while I took covert pictures.

Always been a fan of midnight oil. :headbang:

[jasonu]

Or those stupid neanderthals raceing sidecars before rogering each other in the showers & going home to beat up their missus' after appearing in anti violence campaigns.

Fixed it mate

[F5 Dave]

What are you trying to get me in trouble for now?

PS in NZ there was a rugby player in the news last week who smacked up his missus & of course was the face of an anti violence campaign, it was all a bit Doh.

[seymour14]

But if you saw this guy yesterday, I'd be freaking the f**k out!!!!

[TZ350]

I notice the clock in the background is different to the advertised time in the forground. Whats with that ???? is Marty late or early, are they on daylight saving, does it matter:scratch:

[Gigglebutton]

They promised the record would be wiped after 7 years ....
This is Gigglebuttons NX4 FXR running Lectron carb, Wiseco piston, GPR cams, ported head (done by yours truly after a couple of beers) see "ESE darkside" thread.
As a side note this is only the base build. Giggles should be happy enough having Jaden Hassan and Glen Orwin as riders, but no, for some reason he thinks he has to arm them with crazy hp to boot.

If it gets to hard for Frodo he cry's. Just like in the F&^King movie

[Gigglebutton]

Or the owner is quite good with poles.

Took up Pole Dancing when the chemo wrecked my voice

[seymour14]

Took up Pole Dancing when the chemo wrecked my voice

I miss your singing. :cry:

[crazy man]

I miss your singing. :cry:and l had 3 goes at posting that computer playing up l love midnight oil

[crazy man]

282585a oldy 1999

[seymour14]

282585a oldy 1999

Geez Louise, where was that photo taken?

[crazy man]

Geez Louise, where was that photo taken?manfeild in revese at the hair pin

[seymour14]

When you're about to become a Dad, it pays to check the family jewels are where you left them! :rolleyes:

[richban]

When you're about to become a Dad, it pays to check the family jewels are where you left them! :rolleyes:

Is this the start of a caption competition?

[husaberg]

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=282613&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1368177296
I think it moved Jerry
Not that there's anything wrong with that................

[crazy man]

282636who's sick of 2 strokes:clap:

[seymour14]

282636who's sick of 2 strokes:clap:

How will he live with only half as many heartbeats?

[Bert]

I'm offline for a while and you do this too me: you Sh!T stirring bastards.... :spanking: :nono:

Nice to see my new F3 GPR frame (GPR009) fits a FXR :drinknsin
(seems as I'm not allowed to race my 250 TZR/GPR in F3/superlight, even though 400cc specials are...grrr...)... no I'm not really bitter...

[Rick 52]

When you're about to become a Dad, it pays to check the family jewels are where you left them! :rolleyes:

I didn't know this, congratulations Reagan, that will slow you down a bit Haha

The conversation went like this , " how was the race" Reagan " I had to ride my balls off to get:third:"

[Henk]

Bert, since you have obviously seen the light and gone over to the dark side you won't have any use for that steaming pile of line trimmer engined thing you have been riding. I'll do you a favour and take it off your hands for fifty bucks.

[richban]

282636



Hell yeah GPR 009 looks super cool. Skills

[NOID]

that engine doenst look familiar !!:msn-wink:

[Bert]

What about something like this for the next project.. F5 bikes...

http://www.eurospares.com/graphics/andex500c.jpg

Interesting KTM (http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&langpair=auto|en&rurl=translate.google.com&tbb=1&u=http://www.omnimoto.it/foto/popup/48115/ktm-690-supermono-team-hkr&usg=ALkJrhhZN_XUQpdiowuaY0CiST03njeZBQ) quite like the look of the oval spars

[jasonu]

Nice to see my new F3 GPR frame (GPR009) fits a FXR :drinknsin
(seems as I'm not allowed to race my 250 TZR/GPR in F3/superlight, even though 400cc specials are

Why not????

[Yow Ling]

Why not????

I think the frame needs to be production based, so RS250 is OK GPR is not so OK

5 Specifications for up to 400cc two stroke production based machines:
The machine must be based on a production motorcycle. No homologation is necessary however the Road Race Commission or Technical Steward shall have the power to rule whether or not a machine is eligible.

[crazy man]

I think the frame needs to be production based, so RS250 is OK GPR is not so OK

5 Specifications for up to 400cc two stroke production based machines:
The machine must be based on a production motorcycle. No homologation is necessary however the Road Race Commission or Technical Steward shall have the power to rule whether or not a machine is eligible.l wonder what is considered production based for a one man band ? l remembered benelli motorcycles only needed 3 bikes to race in super bikes. was given 2-3 years to get 10 bikes a year made.

[kel]

I think the frame needs to be production based, so RS250 is OK GPR is not so OK

5 Specifications for up to 400cc two stroke production based machines:
The machine must be based on a production motorcycle. No homologation is necessary however the Road Race Commission or Technical Steward shall have the power to rule whether or not a machine is eligible.

What an utterly ridiculous rule.
So who's going to bore and stroke a 2006 Honda RS250 to 400cc

[crazy man]

think the aprilia rs250 is fine but so i,v been told the sp frame is the same as the race frame. but insaying that the honda no matter how look at it, its still a production bike. you would think they would support more home made stuff

[husaberg]

282636who's sick of 2 strokes:clap:


I think the frame needs to be production based, so RS250 is OK GPR is not so OK

5 Specifications for up to 400cc two stroke production based machines:
The machine must be based on a production motorcycle. No homologation is necessary however the Road Race Commission or Technical Steward shall have the power to rule whether or not a machine is eligible.


think the aprilia rs250 is fine but so i,v been told the sp frame is the same as the race frame. but insaying that the honda no matter how look at it, its still a production bike. you would think they would support more home made stuff

Its a shame, i do note that it appears you have started numbering the frames though Scott (first PIC)
In the Mini MX at least you can apply to the mnz for Holomogation based on 10 bikes (http://www.mnz.co.nz/regulations/rules/homologations---mini-motorcycles).

[Bert]

What an utterly ridiculous rule.
So who's going to bore and stroke a 2006 Honda RS250 to 400cc

No just a production frame not the engine; no you can build up a old RZ with very expensive aftermarket big bore kits and/or find a quad engine and put it into a RS250 production frame; But you can't do the old fashion Kiwi thing and build your own frame and slot in a +20 year old 250cc road production motor brought for $20...
But you can slot in a stinky heavy 4 stroke 650 into a one off special frame... Rules damn...

The entire build (not including Crazy man's time) would have only added up to < $2k (RS125 Forks, wheels, rear end, fairing + controls, ignitech, pipes and pistons).
but it is built and can be used in other forms and parts can be used in other projects...



I think the frame needs to be production based, so RS250 is OK GPR is not so OK
5 Specifications for up to 400cc two stroke production based machines:
The machine must be based on a production motorcycle. No homologation is necessary however the Road Race Commission or Technical Steward shall have the power to rule whether or not a machine is eligible.
yip; thats the catch. based on a production motorcycle...


Its a shame, i do note that it appears you have started numbering the frames though Scott (first PIC)
In the Mini MX at least you can apply to the mnz for Holomogation based on 10 bikes (http://www.mnz.co.nz/regulations/rules/homologations---mini-motorcycles).

All the bikes have been numbered. but not sure if that would wash as each frame has a different intended purpose/engine/size etc.
but given there might be 10 frames by the end of the year...

Not sure whom would give a two hoots anyway (I have been told to turn up with it at club level; likely as I suck and would only be making up numbers).. someone has to come last.:wait:
It was more of a diversion from where the other conversation was going,,,,

[jasonu]

I think the frame needs to be production based, so RS250 is OK GPR is not so OK

5 Specifications for up to 400cc two stroke production based machines:
The machine must be based on a production motorcycle. No homologation is necessary however the Road Race Commission or Technical Steward shall have the power to rule whether or not a machine is eligible.

But isn't the GPR frame based on the RS125 NX4 frame? That is a production frame isn't it? One could use the arguement that your frame is based on the RS125 frame which is a production frame and therefore fits the (dumb) rule.

[husaberg]

following on from the rediscovery of the dude from midnight oil.
this guy's been seen peddling "mountain man" oysters and it maybe why bro was checking his the other day.




<img src="http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=279021&d=1361775713" height="306px"/><img src="http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02216/WK-Xanthe-Grubs1_2216728b.jpg" height="306px"/>
<img src="http://www.kapcha.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Katherine-Kearsley-Mountain-Oysters-290x290.jpg" height="384px"/><img src="http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=282613&d=1368177296" height="384px"/>

[Grumph]

No just a production frame not the engine; no you can build up a old RZ with very expensive aftermarket big bore kits and/or find a quad engine and put it into a RS250 production frame; But you can't do the old fashion Kiwi thing and build your own frame and slot in a +20 year old 250cc road production motor brought for $20...
But you can slot in a stinky heavy 4 stroke 650 into a one off special frame... Rules damn...

The entire build (not including Crazy man's time) would have only added up to < $2k (RS125 Forks, wheels, rear end, fairing + controls, ignitech, pipes and pistons).
but it is built and can be used in other forms and parts can be used in other projects...
All the bikes have been numbered. but not sure if that would wash as each frame has a different intended purpose/engine/size etc.
but given there might be 10 frames by the end of the year...

Not sure whom would give a two hoots anyway (I have been told to turn up with it at club level; likely as I suck and would only be making up numbers).. someone has to come last.:wait:
It was more of a diversion from where the other conversation was going,,,,

You can put an up to 500cc two stroke single into it....Flettner got enough bits for another Bighorn motor ?

As an aside I've built 13 Aermacchi replca frames now - maybe I should apply for homologation....lol.

[crazy man]

bye everyone thanks for your good info . l should of lisen to jason ..

[Bert]

bye everyone thanks for your good info . l should of listened to jason ..

Well its been a few months away from posting (mainly due to life sh!t getting in the way and crazyman getting chased off the KB forum)...

Anyway; the GPR workshop has been humming. And seems as I'm now back from overseas; I thought I'd post up a few photos.

Crazyman has finished his new GPR150-008 2013(and had a play at the last wellington round).
285819


The Sister bike is my new toy another GPR150-009 2013
Some would say I've seen the light; I say I'm temporarily blinded by actually finishing a days racing without a headache...
The TZR100 has gone under the bench until I can figure out what to do with the slipped sleeve.
This also allows me to build up my 250 track toy to play with Crazyman's SXV550...

285820

So; should see you all shortly and roll on summer.

[mr bucketracer]

puts order in . i want a britton front end with a 25000 rpm engine twin thank you

[husaberg]

Well its been a few months away from posting (mainly due to life sh!t getting in the way and crazyman getting chased off the KB forum)...


The TZR100 has gone under the bench until I can figure out what to do with the slipped sleeve.


Send me a pic of the Stud spacing on the TZR Brent i might have something to suit here:msn-wink:.....
but I am guessing your sleeve wasn't shouldered then?

Come on it only KB Scott wasn't chased off was he? he just got in an argument with Robert .. Doubt he was the first that's done that.
I am guessing they were both fueled up on ethanol as well....:beer: