FOR SALE - Drew and Alan's sidecar build

[Drew]

Secret squirrel....

I'm too dumb for secret squirrel. Can never remember who is meant to know, and who isn't.

[Drew]

Yeah, talk about long bike riders.:laugh:

It's a shorty, of that there is no doubt...cunt.

[Drew]

Started work on the Chivas chair last night. Gordie had begin the demuntification process and done all the fiddly annoying shit, so we just need to set the geometry on the wheels, space the motor correctly, put a base gasket in the motor so the valves clear the slugs, and hook up the new brake lines.

Then it's off for a test day to make sure we're ready for Suzuki series.

Good times.

[Kickaha]

, space the motor correctly,
What was the problem with that?

[sidecar bob]

What was the problem with that?

Muntage. . .

[Drew]

What was the problem with that?Well, nothing if I left the rear hub pissed as fuck to match it. But after I set that back to the specs you gave Gordie from LCR, it appears that the motor being on a lean to the right isn't exactly as required.


Muntage. . .Sooo, ^^^this.

[Kickaha]

He used to wonder why it kept throwing the chain

[sidecar bob]

He used to wonder why it kept throwing the chain

He should have run the problem past an engineering tutor.

[Drew]

He used to wonder why it kept throwing the chainThe sympathetic part of me could almost see how someone with little mechanical knowledge could end up where it was...


He should have run the problem past an engineering tutor.

But it's unfathomable given this ^^^

[Drew]

Add to that, he had the chain so tight it broke an engine mount brace. At least, I can't see another way it could have gotten over loaded.

Assuming of course, that it wasn't like that when he got it.

[merv]

Drew mate we love your attention to mechanical details, so are we going to see some pictures on this thread or are you going to start a new chair thread and show us your engineering skills there?

[Drew]

Drew mate we love your attention to mechanical details, so are we going to see some pictures on this thread or are you going to start a new chair thread and show us your engineering skills there?
There's nothing to make, other than some spacers with a 10mm hole through them.
Only one weld required.

I'll post up a couple pics when I clear some memory on the phone and take some.

[Drew]

Somethings just can't be helped. Motor is now in pieces beside the chair getting put back to as stock as I can make it without splitting the cases and investigating what's going on in there.

[Kickaha]

Somethings just can't be helped. Motor is now in pieces beside the chair getting put back to as stock as I can make it without splitting the cases and investigating what's going on in there.

That's an Harris works engine, I doubt you can improve on that

[sidecar bob]

That's an Harris works engine, I doubt you can improve on that
Is that a Harris Barely Works engine?

Seems it had some special one off Harris imaginary hot cams in it too.

[bucket boy]

Is that a Harris Barely Works engine?

Seems it had some special one off Harris imaginary hot cams in it too.

Hes just being fussy the guy told him its all good just dont rev it to hard because the valves hit the pistons

[old rig]

Hes just being fussy the guy told him its all good just dont rev it to hard because the valves hit the pistons
He also said that it's one owner and only taken out on Sundays

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[Drew]

Sump was baffled at least...by leaving the gasket paper over hanging an inch and a half into the sump all the way around. Qulaity.

[Drew]

Is that a Harris Barely Works engine?

Seems it had some special one off Harris imaginary hot cams in it too.
Very special, with no markings or evidence they're different to standard at all.

Hes just being fussy the guy told him its all good just dont rev it to hard because the valves hit the pistonsQuite.

But I dare say that there's every chance I'll peg it back too many gears at some point with the button shifter, and that would be the end of it all

[Kickaha]

Most of that stuff was pre fucked by the Lawrances before Harris got it as well

[Drew]

Most of that stuff was pre fucked by the Lawrances before Harris got it as well

The sump baffle Gordie sourced is pretty cool. I'm guessing the lack of one before is why the spare motor had a snapped crank, but I'll get that apart and see if the rest is salvageable.

[nodrog]

Most of that stuff was pre fucked by the Lawrances before Harris got it as well

That's quite funny, harris told me he had some of their stuff too. Richie knew nothing about it when i asked him.

I think he has a punch in the head coming.

[nodrog]

I think he has a punch in the head coming.

Turns out jesus is quite upset too, i think those earthquakes were a sign.

[old rig]

Turns out jesus is quite upset too, i think those earthquakes were a sign.
I thought it was some wheel nuts being done up on a LCR

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[Grumph]

Turns out jesus is quite upset too, i think those earthquakes were a sign.

Sacrifice a virgin, quick....You do realise that Harris actually started his own church a few years back ?

FWIW the only engine work I've ever done for Harris was diagnose a seized cam when one of his FZR1000's wouldn't run - and unseize it.

What is it with sidecar owners and FZR cam caps - can none of you read the marks ? Done two of the bastards now for chairs.

[Drew]

Sacrifice a virgin, quick....You do realise that Harris actually started his own church a few years back ?

FWIW the only engine work I've ever done for Harris was diagnose a seized cam when one of his FZR1000's wouldn't run - and unseize it.

What is it with sidecar owners and FZR cam caps - can none of you read the marks ? Done two of the bastards now for chairs.
It's because we stand in front of the motor to work on them, and we're too dumb to figure out left and right from there.

[Drew]

Jesus those brake bias thingies are a cunt. Couldn't see what is supposed to keep the rod accross the push rods level, so I just fashioned a guide.

Had no power so couldn't weld the broken mount and get the motor back in.

[roogazza]

Jesus those brake bias thingies are a cunt. Couldn't see what is supposed to keep the rod accross the push rods level, so I just fashioned a guide.

Had no power so couldn't weld the broken mount and get the motor back in.

Drew, I'm relying on you to keep me entertained till next March,No GPs.
At least two posts a day with attached pics please......

[sidecar bob]

Drew, I'm relying on you to keep me entertained till next March,No GPs.
At least two posts a day with attached pics please......

Yep, Harris muntage without photos is like drinking low alcohol beer.

[Drew]

Drew, I'm relying on you to keep me entertained till next March,No GPs.
At least two posts a day with attached pics please......
Been slack on the pictures. It's all just maintenance really, then go thrash it.

[Drew]

This was the motor out to give the valves some room.

Don't seem to have any others.

[Drew]

Here's a couple I took the day we unloaded it.

[nodrog]

Here's a couple I took the day we unloaded it.

Fucks thats flash.

[Grumph]

This was the motor out to give the valves some room.

Don't seem to have any others.

Have you got someone in Wgtn who can machine the pockets ?

[Drew]

Fucks thats flash.

Flash as a chow on a bike bro.

[Drew]

Have you got someone in Wgtn who can machine the pockets ?

Nah. I just chucked another base gasket in to take it back to stock.

[Drew]

Had a good yarn with Ian Staples at Manfeild on Friday.

His chair with the RSV1000 lump is pretty cool. The front end is pretty fucken different.

He was asking if it was ever discovered as to why our new chair had the chassis box shaped the way it is. I'd pondered the same thing, bit never asked. He thinks it was built for a 600 to have a supercharger hanging in the triangle space beside the motor.

That's a cool idea, but I don't really understand why anyone would do it.

The engine mounts support the idea that it's meant to be an F2. The rear mounts line up with the R1, but the top mount needs a plate to get the hole to line up.

[Grumph]

More likely a dry sump pump and plumbing. The ZX14 I rebuilt for Kicks sponsor had a multi stage pump driven off the side which was bleeding enormous.
I really wouldn't have wanted to package that in a chair - but a car, no probs.

[Drew]

More likely a dry sump pump and plumbing. The ZX14 I rebuilt for Kicks sponsor had a multi stage pump driven off the side which was bleeding enormous.
I really wouldn't have wanted to package that in a chair - but a car, no probs.
That's a reasonable thinking.

[sidecar bob]

Yes Drew, your outfit did have a supercharged 600, until the concept was banned & it was re powered.

[Drew]

Yes Drew, your outfit did have a supercharged 600, until the concept was banned & it was re powered.

Ah. There ya have it.

If we ever destroy the chassis, we'll make a straght one then.

[nodrog]

Ah. There ya have it.

If we ever destroy the chassis, we'll make a straght one then.

don't you listen to anything I say? I told you that.

and where would you put your leg if you made it straight? you might have to make it longer so your legs go in front of the motor, but I don't think that will catch on.

[Kickaha]

Ah. There ya have it.

If we ever destroy the chassis, we'll make a straght one then.

You don't need to make one, Harris had a LCR style tub his students made up out at Ruapuna today, I'll give him your number

Oh yeah, 2 year tech inpsection, 6 sidecars checked, guess who the only one to fail was?

[Kickaha]

Had a good yarn with Ian Staples at Manfeild on Friday.

His chair with the RSV1000 lump is pretty cool. The front end is pretty fucken different.

How will he get three signings before Wangas as I see he's entered?

[Drew]

How will he get three signings before Wangas as I see he's entered?

Dispensation is but an email away.

[sidecar bob]

Just thinking, & Not being a smart arse, but seeing as the outfit is an absolute one of, it may be worth doing a measure up & record of the vital chassis specs, so if in the unlikely event it got bent, you would have some numbers to straighten it out too.

[Drew]

Just thinking, & Not being a smart arse, but seeing as the outfit is an absolute one of, it may be worth doing a measure up & record of the vital chassis specs, so if in the unlikely event it got bent, you would have some numbers to straighten it out too.
Way ahead of ya bro.

[jellywrestler]

How will he get three signings before Wangas as I see he's entered?

he's had a few more wins than you there before..., never heard of his swinger though.

[jellywrestler]

and where would you put your leg if you made it straight? you sound very much like a thinking man, i've often wondered how a chair would look if your knees bent the other way, do you know?

[sidecar bob]

Dispensation is but an email away.

Lol, hello mnz steward viewing the thread.:shutup:

[nodrog]

you sound very much like a thinking man, i've often wondered how a chair would look if your knees bent the other way, do you know?

Probably like a front wheel drive car with the backwheels welded together in the middle. Somebody should make one.

[Drew]

The box could still be straight, just further in than that of a long chair.

[Kickaha]

Dispensation is but an email away.


he's had a few more wins than you there before..., never heard of his swinger though.

I was asking as Goober is trying the same but still waiting to hear back from GP

[Drew]

I was asking as Goober is trying the same but still waiting to hear back from GP

He got back to me the next day last year.

[jellywrestler]

Probably like a front wheel drive car with the backwheels welded together in the middle. Somebody should make one.

i mean a normal seat for sitting on, don't overcomplicate this please.

[nodrog]

i mean a normal seat for sitting on, don't overcomplicate this please.

Like a lay-z-boy, or more dining room?

[jellywrestler]

Like a lay-z-boy, or more dining room?

yip, you're onto it

[Drew]

This one should be mechanically ready to go this time tomorrow.

[old rig]

This one should be mechanically ready to go this time tomorrow.
See you at paeroa then[emoji12]

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[Drew]

See you at paeroa then[emoji12]

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I doubt we'll do many street races on it. Wanganui is shit, Pearoa has fuck all appeal. Hillclimb could well be our lot for public roads.

Getting close now.