Dobbed in weed-growing parents [Archive] - Page 3

Edbear

8th April 2013, 18:14

fuckin druggie driver :shifty:. I wouldn't trust myself behind the wheel on Tramadol to be honest, but as you say it all depends on how it affects one. And I take it you're a double pill man?

Yeah, I do take two when required, but I'm trying to manage the pain better without so many drugs, by taking more rest periods. Not easy when running your own business and it's growing fast.

Sorry, but to me this reads that you wouldn't drive on Ketamine but would happily drive on either Tremadol or morphine, I can't comment on tremadol, but if you go anywhere near a car on morphine you deserve to be shot, I don't even like the idea of driving on codiene (i had to once, in an emergency) I would much rather use cannabis for pain if I intend to drive.

Edit: just saw the above post where you clarify the statement I quote here, please ignore the claim you should be shot.

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I appreciate that, although I have suggested to Mrs. Bear from time to time that I need a good spanking... :rolleyes:

But as I said, painklllers affect each person differently so you should consult your Dr. in the first instance.

Funnily enough I fail to see it that way... but each to their own.

Yeah, there are three members I put in the same little box, no interest in anything but denigrating me personally, silly boys, but if that gets them their jollies, their tiny minds obviously need it.

Edbear

8th April 2013, 18:17

I agree, and in reference to the last sentence, since I can't legally have one of those, I'll have one of these
Since it's legal it must be better for me, lol, yea right

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Hmmmm... maybe four?

http://health.msn.co.nz/healthnews/8638908/magic-mushrooms-could-treat-depression-expert

Wonder how Ed and Grubber feel about this then?

If you've read my posts at all, you would know exactly how I feel about it. Prove you have by telling us all how I feel about it.

SMOKEU

8th April 2013, 18:20

You've just shown yourself up to be the biggest hypocrite on KB so who's irrelevant & has worthless opinions? Oh, that's right - that would be you.

This thread has been like having all your christmases at once. I'd like to thank Ed & Grubber for providing us with such quality entertainment today - you both deserve an Oscar. I'd smoke a joint in your honour but that would be illegal.

:clap:

Fucking oath, nothing like seeing the haters get served...again and again! Good effort. :first:

Sent from inbetween my spotting knives.

Akzle

8th April 2013, 18:30

where was the insult?

Best you read your previous posts.
troll? you're insulted by the word troll?

are you, bychance, a fucking homo?

Oh please, now you cant even tell the difference between a high and a sugar rush in a kid.
Try again! this time at least try and be sensible about it and then i might be prepared to at least read another post.
fun fact, sugar affects the brain the same way as heroin, in children. consider the effects:
high, increased blood flow, increased metabolism, diuretic/dehydrates ya, increases lactic acid production, analgesic, low/come down - irritable, irrational, cranky, dissociative.

you've never seen a fun kids party, i guess. not surprising, really, given that you sound like a dick.

(hint, NOW i'm insulting you)

Do you have any morals at all? no, i sold them for crack.

Yeah, I do take two when required, but I'm trying to manage the pain better without so many drugs, by taking more rest periods. Not easy when running your own business and it's growing fast.
try cannabis.

I appreciate that, although I have suggested to Mrs. Bear from time to time that I need a good spanking...
you're going to hell.

Madness

8th April 2013, 18:31

Yeah, there are three members I put in the same little box, no interest in anything but denigrating me personally, silly boys, but if that gets them their jollies, their tiny minds obviously need it.

Not true Ed, I have many interests, including riding motorcycles and looking at pictures of hot lesbians kissing. Keep digging mate, you'll hit China eventually, then you might like to visit the Shorai factory while you're there.

Edbear

8th April 2013, 18:31

Fucking oath, nothing like seeing the haters get served...again and again! Good effort. :first:

Sent from inbetween my spotting knives.

Five..? They're lining up to be counted.. :lol:

Edbear

8th April 2013, 18:35

[COLOR="#139922"] no, i sold them for crack.

try cannabis.

you're going to hell.

The question was obviously directed at Katman of course.

If they develop Cannabis into an effective, (and legal), painkiller and it is recommended by my Dr. sure.

Sorry, don't believe in Hell as per the popular myths.

Madness

8th April 2013, 18:37

Five..? They're lining up to be counted.. :lol:

Like the Apostles?

SMOKEU

8th April 2013, 18:37

Sorry, don't believe in Hell as per the popular myths.

I thought you're Christian.

mashman

8th April 2013, 18:39

Yeah, I do take two when required, but I'm trying to manage the pain better without so many drugs, by taking more rest periods. Not easy when running your own business and it's growing fast.

Yeah, there are three members I put in the same little box, no interest in anything but denigrating me personally, silly boys, but if that gets them their jollies, their tiny minds obviously need it.

I can imagine it ain't that much fun. I'd hate to be in such consistent pain, but if mj works for folks, shirley they should be allowed to use it? even if they do enjoy the high too?

Not at all. I can see where they're coming from and to a degree I agree with them in regards to the hypocrisy. However I understand both sides of the "argument". Driving wasted is one thing, but driving mildly stoned is another thing entirely and people do it day in and day out without littering the pavements with body's. A dose of mj can be managed to be all but negligible in regards to cognitive impairment.

Edbear

8th April 2013, 18:42

Not true Ed, I have many interests, including riding motorcycles and looking at pictures of hot lesbians kissing. Keep digging mate, you'll hit China eventually, then you might like to visit the Shorai factory while you're there.

You should work for the media, you are so fond of selective quoting to give a false impression. Sorta like lying, really. :cool: Add to that your inability to back your stupid allegations with reference and fact and you really are of no consequence.

blackdog

8th April 2013, 18:43

Um, how many states in the US already consider it an effective painkiller and has it prescribed by doctors?

Is there something about our geography that makes it less effective here?

Myself, OAB and many others on here will attest to it's efficacy as an analgesic. Perhaps (since it's legal and that seems to be the crux of your argument) you should pop down the dairy and try some cannibinoids. Man made them, unlike the good 'erb that was made by god. Who do you trust?

Madness

8th April 2013, 18:46

You should work for the media, you are so fond of selective quoting to give a false impression. Sorta like lying, really. :cool: Add to that your inability to back your stupid allegations with reference and fact and you really are of no consequence.

Yet you keep quoting me?

You'll be pleased to know Ed that I just took you off ignore. For some strange reason I have had this feeling for the past half hour or so that I don't want to miss anything you post. I'm literally on the edge of my seat, waiting for the next confession. Do you have any tattoos, Ed?

bogan

8th April 2013, 18:47

Um, how many states in the US already consider it an effective painkiller and has it prescribed by doctors?

Is there something about our geography that makes it less effective here?

Hole in the ozone layer makes the THCs a bit more angry, which makes it less medicinal. Incidentally, its why many growers prefer to use closets with artificial light sources contain no ozone holes. When you're growing medicine it pays not to fuck around doing things as nature intended :rolleyes:

Usarka

8th April 2013, 18:49

All around us is the concerning part and "in my home" you say. I can guarantee, without exception, that i haven't. I don't surround myself with people of this nature.

I know I'm way behind in the thread, but :lol: bahahahaaahahahahaa!

OMG hold on I just saw this:

For me, I am fine on Tramadol and Morphine, but I wouldn't trust myself to walk, let alone drive, on Ketamine. Unfortunately, Panadol isn't strong enough.

You drive on tramadol and morphine and yet you have the unmitigated audacity to judge people for driving while under the influence of drugs? Winner!

Madness

8th April 2013, 18:51

I know I'm way behind in the thread, but :lol: bahahahaaahahahahaa!

OMG hold on I just saw this:

You drive on tramadol and morphine and yet you have the unmitigated audacity to judge people for driving while under the influence of drugs? Winner!

I know, right? He doesn't actually drive on Morphine though - just Tramadol. He's probably paranoid of getting caught on the Morph. It'd be a cunt to lose your licence being self-employed in a very, very successful small business, especially one that's "going off".

blackdog

8th April 2013, 18:51

Do you have any tattoos, Ed?

I'll bet no, but by his own confession has a penchant for a bit of BDSM. Wonder what Yaweh would have to say about that?

Edbear

8th April 2013, 18:54

But as I said, painklllers affect each person differently so you should consult your Dr. in the first instance.

Yeah, there are three members I put in the same little box, no interest in anything but denigrating me personally, silly boys, but if that gets them their jollies, their tiny minds obviously need it.

I can imagine it ain't that much fun. I'd hate to be in such consistent pain, but if mj works for folks, shirley they should be allowed to use it? even if they do enjoy the high too?

Not at all. I can see where they're coming from and to a degree I agree with them in regards to the hypocrisy. However I understand both sides of the "argument". Driving wasted is one thing, but driving mildly stoned is another thing entirely and people do it day in and day out without littering the pavements with body's. A dose of mj can be managed to be all but negligible in regards to cognitive impairment.

What hypocrisy? Please post a hypocritical example. Shirley, to use an expression I saw somewhere...:rolleyes:, their comments are totlaly lacking in credibility and are purely a personal attack. I couldn't care less what they thjink of me, it's just highly amusing to see them without anything of relevance to contribute.

Um, how many states in the US already consider it an effective painkiller and has it prescribed by doctors?

Is there something about our geography that makes it less effective here?

Myself, OAB and many others on here will attest to it's efficacy as an analgesic. Perhaps (since it's legal and that seems to be the crux of your argument) you should pop down the dairy and try some cannibinoids. Man made them, unlike the good 'erb that was made by god. Who do you trust?

As I have always said, if I can get the analgesic effects without the side effects and it is developed legally I have no problem with it. Curently there are a whole bunch of legal panikillers that are effective, just need to sort out with your Doc. which ones suit you with the least side effects.

I thought you're Christian.

You confuse being Christian with believing the false teachings of the mainstream churches. They teach bollocks that has nothing to do with the Bible at all. Be careful;, though, the mods will put this thread into PD... :shutup: Mind you... <_<

Madness

8th April 2013, 18:57

Be careful;, though, the mods will put this thread into PD... :shutup: Mind you... <_<

You'd like that, wouldn't you Ed. Don't worry though, your hypocrasy has been etched into cyberspace for future generations to see.

Usarka

8th April 2013, 18:58

As I have always said, if I can get the analgesic effects without the side effects and it is developed legally I have no problem with it. Curently there are a whole bunch of legal panikillers that are effective, just need to sort out with your Doc. which ones suit you with the least side effects.

a) your arguments against drugs have been more than about the legality

b) it is illegal to drive under the impairment of drugs *including* prescription drugs

c) most people who drive after booze or weed think they are fine to drive, just like you think you are fine to drive on tramadol

Akzle

8th April 2013, 19:00

err, all you anti guys.

what are the cannabanoid receptors in a human's brain for?

Edbear

8th April 2013, 19:02

I know I'm way behind in the thread, but :lol: bahahahaaahahahahaa!
OMG hold on I just saw this:

You drive on tramadol and morphine and yet you have the unmitigated audacity to judge people for driving while under the influence of drugs? Winner!

Like you said, you are way behind in this thread and obviously haven't read it all, so you fail.

Yet you keep quoting me?

You'll be pleased to know Ed that I just took you off ignore. For some strange reason I have had this feeling for the past half hour or so that I don't want to miss anything you post. I'm literally on the edge of my seat, waiting for the next confession. Do you have any tattoos, Ed?

Sigh... I guess you just can't fix stupid after all. Carry on, your ego needs it.

I'll bet no, but by his own confession has a penchant for a bit of BDSM. Wonder what Yaweh would have to say about that?

Only advice for married couples is to "give each other their due and not be depriving each other of it." What happens in the bedroom between husband and wife is not mentioned otherwise, except to be loving to each other at all times, and not to be "bitterly angry" with each other. :Offtopic:

Katman

8th April 2013, 19:03

I'd just like to take a moment to give a heart-felt thanks to Laava for providing us with a thread that just keeps on giving.

How can so much win be packed into a single thread?

Edbear

8th April 2013, 19:04

a) your arguments against drugs have been more than about the legality

b) it is illegal to drive under the impairment of drugs *including* prescription drugs

c) most people who drive after booze or weed think they are fine to drive, just like you think you are fine to drive on tramadol

But as I said, painklllers affect each person differently so you should consult your Dr. in the first instance..

Did you miss this bit too?

Madness

8th April 2013, 19:05

I'd just like to take a moment to give a heart-felt thanks to Laava for providing us with a thread that just keeps on giving.

How can so much win be packed into a single thread?

I was starting to think you were going to miss the most epic KB moment, possibly ever.

Madness

8th April 2013, 19:07

Carry on

OK then. Have you ever had an abortion?

PrincessBandit

8th April 2013, 19:13

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/album.php?albumid=3438&attachmentid=204351

Have you checked out your boy's eyes?

You should be sitting him down and asking him some very serious questions.

Hell even I look like that sometimes.

scumdog

8th April 2013, 19:19

Hell even I look like that sometimes.

Flat-chested but with big eye-lashes??:confused:

bogan

8th April 2013, 19:22

I was starting to think you were going to miss the most epic KB moment, possibly ever.

That's a bold claim, there's not enough surprise factor in here for that title; its just same old edbear...

... and there certainly not enough lesbians to make up for the beigeness of it.

But still, it makes a good effort at it!

blackdog

8th April 2013, 19:23

More lesbians!

PrincessBandit

8th April 2013, 19:24

Flat-chested but with big eye-lashes??:confused:

You've met me. Was that the impression I made on you!!! :eek:

Madness

8th April 2013, 19:24

That's a bold claim, there's not enough surprise factor in here for that title; its just same old edbear...

... and there certainly not enough lesbians to make up for the beigeness of it.

But still, it makes a good effort at it!

I did say possibly. You do have a point though, perhaps the winningest moment since DB went hang-gliding.

http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/487173_579351785425851_2082790072_n.jpg

PrincessBandit

8th April 2013, 19:24

More lesbians!

They keep popping up everywhere in this thread...

blackdog

8th April 2013, 19:26

They keep popping up everywhere in this thread...

That isn't being very nice to Ed and Grubber.

SMOKEU

8th April 2013, 19:27

What's everyone doing this coming 4/20?

Sent from deep within the realms of a spliff.

Edbear

8th April 2013, 19:28

They keep popping up everywhere in this thread...

Poor frustrated people. Fantasy is all they have. :(

Madness

8th April 2013, 19:31

Poor frustrated people. Fantasy is all they have. :(

We have you Ed and you've provided more entertainment tonight than a whole bunch of lesbians.

mashman

8th April 2013, 19:34

What hypocrisy? Please post a hypocritical example. Shirley, to use an expression I saw somewhere...:rolleyes:, their comments are totlaly lacking in credibility and are purely a personal attack. I couldn't care less what they thjink of me, it's just highly amusing to see them without anything of relevance to contribute.

See the sig of Madness for the hypocrisy. It's contextual of course, but legalities aren't actually part of the context imho.

A personal attack on KB? No way Ed, I think you're making it up. No one would take whatever they wanted to read out of an argument and use it for such a purpose.

Mushu

8th April 2013, 19:35

We have you Ed and you've provided more entertainment tonight than a whole bunch of lesbians.

TBH, give me the lesbians any day, but in the absence of hot girls kissing (at my place anyway), this thread is keeping me quite entertained.

I did have some comments about eds reference to mainstream religion and the Bible but in an effort to keep the thread out of PD I'll just say, have you read that document, there's some crazy shit in there, and even then, which Bible is the true Bible, there are several versions (the Kuran has most of the same characters, but way more virgins, death to the infidels, lol)

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Brian d marge

8th April 2013, 19:40

aahhh drugs
love em to bits
trouble is , I cant take em anymore

weed , unless Im drinking gets me paranoid ,and does my head in

single malt, there isnt enough movies on the internet

Heroin , been there done that , itchy back

speed , love it in all its forms

coffee love it more than speed

sex , cant get enough , and after 40 ,cant get it up

Datura , awesome , but scary

anyways ,

here is a bbc doco, After being in the "scene" as it were London squatting , Ive been there and done that .......this documentary
is pretty much on the money

If you see a polly talking about banning drugs , ask him about his drinking , ,,,,

Stephen
fk , forgot to add link , must stop drinking hahahaha
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/QC_nrLIc2Zk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Madness

8th April 2013, 19:46

What's everyone doing this coming 4/20?

Going to see Black Sabbath with a brain full of Cannabinoids, you?

mashman

8th April 2013, 19:47

Poor frustrated people. Fantasy is all they have. :(

Only coz it'd cost too much to make it a reality.

Edbear

8th April 2013, 19:56

Only coz it'd cost too much to make it a reality.

Lol! There are distinct advantages to being happily married... :rolleyes:

SMOKEU

8th April 2013, 19:58

Going to see Black Sabbath with a brain full of Cannabinoids, you?

Probably just going to eat some "special" pancakes and have a couple of buckies.

mashman

8th April 2013, 20:00

Lol! There are distinct advantages to being happily married... :rolleyes:

hmmmmmm... and sometimes there are very distinct disadvantages, like having kids that hate you and dob you in to the cops for growing weed.

Brian d marge

8th April 2013, 20:02

Going to see Black Sabbath with a brain full of Cannabinoids, you?

oh black sabath

reminds me of DONNA SUMMER

yeah baby

http://findit yourself

Stephen

Akzle

8th April 2013, 20:04

Evaluation criteria and their definitions

Drug-specific mortality
Intrinsic lethality of the drug expressed as ratio of lethal dose and standard dose (for adults)
...there is no such thing as LD50 for cannabis?
there's also no such thing as a standard dose (for adults)
Drug-related mortality
The extent to which life is shortened by the use of the drug (excludes drug-specific mortality)—eg, road traffic accidents, lung cancers, HIV, suicide
about three thousand and four percent speculative.
Drug-specific damage
Drug-specific damage to physical health—eg, cirrhosis, seizures, strokes, cardiomyopathy, stomach ulcers
accepted.
Drug-related damage
Drug-related damage to physical health, including consequences of, for example, sexual unwanted activities and self-harm, blood-borne viruses, emphysema, and damage from cutting agents
again, while I turn into a drug addled pedophile incestual rapist kidnapping shotgun weilding streaking homicidal self harming maniac, common observation would suggest it's not common to all users.
Dependence
The extent to which a drug creates a propensity or urge to continue to use despite adverse consequences (ICD 10 or DSM IV)
half n half. again, subjective, some people say cocaine is addictive. i havent had it in years, i can binge and then leave it for years, some say tobbacco is addictive, but when i don't have it, i don't smoke it.the whole "addictive personality" comes into it and is quite seperate from "chemical addiction" which creates a change in the physiology so the body craves it.
Drug-specific impairment of mental functioning
Drug-specific impairment of mental functioning—eg, amfetamine-induced psychosis, ketamine intoxication
would need to know the "impairment tests" and thresholds to comment. i can thread a needle and hem my baggy (and slightly itchy) hemp hippy pants while stoned, something i cant be fucked doing sober.
tests done by the evil british government show that drivers do (statistically) improve after 1-4 standard drinks.
Drug-related impairment of mental functioning
Drug-related impairment of mental functioning—eg, mood disorders secondary to drug-user's lifestyle or drug use
as above, with the addition of: "mood disorders" tend to be pre-existing and drug use exacerbates, but does not cause, them.
Loss of tangibles
Extent of loss of tangible things (eg, income, housing, job, educational achievements, criminal record, imprisonment)
i did sell my morals for crack...
the loss of job and therefore everything else money related is probably more related to the criminal element (drug tests etc) and enforcement/penalties/fines for the drug's legal status. certainly the "criminal record, imprisonment" arises solely because of the legal status.
the price is allowed to remain inflated due to the limited supply.
i don't see how you can loose an educational achievement.
Loss of relationships
Extent of loss of relationship with family and friends
on a scale of one to ten? one where you only slightly loose your family, and ten where your so high you can't find your way home?
Injury
Extent to which the use of a drug increases the chance of injuries to others both directly and indirectly—eg, violence (including domestic violence), traffic accident, fetal harm, drug waste, secondary transmission of blood-borne viruses
speculative and subjective.
Crime
Extent to which the use of a drug involves or leads to an increase in volume of acquisitive crime (beyond the use-of-drug act) directly or indirectly (at the population level, not the individual level)
according to whom/ who is to say that the little black cunt wouldn't have robbed you anyway? he just enjoys smoking dope and so did that before breaking in.
Environmental damage
Extent to which the use and production of a drug causes environmental damage locally—eg, toxic waste from amfetamine factories, discarded needles
and so if we could have biohaz bags in our kitchen next to the compost, and could drop our needles there after pinning up with breakfast, the situation would be worse?
yes, large amounts of chemicals are used in the manufacture of certain drugs, but with all the other capitalist industry that exists, surely thre are bigger fish to fry? not to mention that (legal) psycho-pharma companies produce WAY HEAPS MORE environmental damage than illegal ones. consider the indian medico manufacturers.
Family adversities
Extent to which the use of a drug causes family adversities—eg, family breakdown, economic wellbeing, emotional wellbeing, future prospects of children, child neglect
well, if you have dicks like grubby in your family, you probably can do without the relationship anyway, innit.
given the amount of social disorder/harmony and family breakdown encouraged by the feminised "family" court system, (and the bitch that gave rise to the article that gave rise to this awesome thread)... trying to pin any of those events on drug/substance use is fucking silly.
International damage
Extent to which the use of a drug in the UK contributes to damage internationally—eg, deforestation, destabilisation of countries, international crime, new markets
bwahahahahahahahhaa.

OR, like the US invading afghanistan for a secure heroin.morphine supply, eh?
Economic cost
Extent to which the use of a drug causes direct costs to the country (eg, health care, police, prisons, social services, customs, insurance, crime) and indirect costs (eg, loss of productivity, absenteeism)
if we remove the illegality we can cross police, prisons, social services, customs off that list, leaving health care, which i'd need ot see some stats on, insurance, which seems irrelevant, it's a scam and has more to do with thievery, and crime, which is probably largely unrelated, as above.
Community
Extent to which the use of a drug creates decline in social cohesion and decline in the reputation of the community
BUAHAHAAAMUUUAhAHHAHAHABAHAHAHABAHHHHAAAAAAAAAA.

yes. no. drugs are the cause of all the world's problems concerning social cohesion.

BUAHAHAAAMUUUAhAHHAHAHABAHAHAHABAHHHHAAAAAAAAAA.

I'd just like to take a moment to give a heart-felt thanks to Laava for providing us with a thread that just keeps on giving.

How can so much win be packed into a single thread?

:clapclap:
hear hear.
but at the end of the day, the winner is rugby. or cannabis.

Madness

8th April 2013, 20:14

Definitely if they affect you that way, you shouldn't drive or operate machinery. ...some have had very bad reactions to Tramadol, my daughter, for one.

For me, I am fine on Tramadol and Morphine, but I wouldn't trust myself to walk, let alone drive, on Ketamine.

Do you drive on Tramadol and Morphine?

Only on Tramadol because it doesn't affect me adversely. I made the comment that I would not trust myself on Ketamine. Even though I tolerate Morphine well I won't drive on it either. If I am in that much pain, I'd not be safe behind the wheel anyway.

Serious question for you Ed, I am honestly curious to the answer. Considering the bad reactions to Tramadol your daughter has experienced, how does she feel about you driving on it? Does she accept that you are able to judge the affect the drug is having on your mental faculties for yourself and without risk to either yourself or other motorists? It would be terrible to think that she was scared or frightened for you as a result of the situation that's been created. Maybe now I am starting to see how the girl whose parents got dobbed in for over having two weeds growing in their garden may have possibly felt in her own situation. Just maybe.

PrincessBandit

8th April 2013, 20:18

Holy monkey nuts Batman, i think we might be about to begin on a reverse loop through this thread

Laava

8th April 2013, 20:23

Holy monkey nuts Batman, i think we might be about to begin on a reverse loop through this thread

Oh noes! I hope that doesn't mean that Mashie and Madness are going to start posting pics of men kissing!

Madness

8th April 2013, 20:26

Oh noes! I hope that doesn't mean that Mashie and Madness are going to start posting pics of men kissing!

Wash your virtual mouth out with soap!

http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/602905_553410208020009_538211036_n.jpg

Woodman

8th April 2013, 20:28

hmmmmmm... and sometimes there are very distinct disadvantages, like having kids that hate you and dob you in to the cops for growing weed.

That wouldn,t happen surely??

You got any examples of such appalling behaviour??

bogan

8th April 2013, 20:28

Oh noes! I hope that doesn't mean that Mashie and Madness are going to start kissing!

Lock it, lock the thread quickly! :chase:

mashman

8th April 2013, 20:32

Oh noes! I hope that doesn't mean that Mashie and Madness are going to start posting pics of men kissing!

http://www.whatsonningbo.com/news_images/ac239f723d462c36_World%20leaders%202.jpg

mashman

8th April 2013, 20:36

Serious question for you Ed, I am honestly curious to the answer. Considering the bad reactions to Tramadol your daughter has experienced, how does she feel about you driving on it? Does she accept that you are able to judge the affect the drug is having on your mental facilities and reactions for yourself and without risk to either yourself or other motorists? It would be terrible to think that she was scared or frightened for you as a result of the situation that's been created. Maybe now I am starting to see how the girl whose parents got dobbed in for over having two weeds growing in their garden may have possibly felt in her own situation. Just maybe.

Exceptional point... and indeed you've got me thinking along the lines of concern too. She'll make a great politician some day.

scumdog

8th April 2013, 20:41

Edbear

8th April 2013, 20:46

hmmmmmm... and sometimes there are very distinct disadvantages, like having kids that hate you and dob you in to the cops for growing weed.

I blame the parents. My three kids are all adults, two daughters married and son now 37. (Yes he has left home...). We are a very close family and the kids were brought up in an atmosphere of mutual respect, open honesty and trust.

She is 33 and mother of our two current grandsons, she has been through a lot and has a good medical understanding along with her trust in me. She trusts me completely based on both her own knowledge and her history in knowing me that I wouldn't do something so stupid.

Serious question for you Ed, I am honestly curious to the answer. Considering the bad reactions to Tramadol your daughter has experienced, how does she feel about you driving on it? Does she accept that you are able to judge the affect the drug is having on your mental faculties for yourself and without risk to either yourself or other motorists? It would be terrible to think that she was scared or frightened for you as a result of the situation that's been created. Maybe now I am starting to see how the girl whose parents got dobbed in for over having two weeds growing in their garden may have possibly felt in her own situation. Just maybe.

Madness

8th April 2013, 20:47

So, to keep the hilarity and convivial chit-chat flowing...

IF it was legal to grow cannabis do you think:

Everybody would grow enough for themselves?

or

There would be lazy-arses couldn't be naffed growing the stuff who would still find somebody to buy it from? (or steal it from)

I don't know abiut the Riviera District but up here you'd only have to drive along all State Highways throwing seeds out the window for it to take off like Gorse. There'd be enough for everyone and you wouldn't need an economy around it. Come to think of it, those Scottish settlers were dumb fucks, weren't they?

I think most middle-aged habitual users (those with jobs that exist in the real world as closet smokers) would grow their own if it were legal. Wouldn't you grow your own tomatoes if your tomato habit was costing you upwards of $2,000 - $3,000 a year due to prohibition?

mashman

8th April 2013, 20:53

So, to keep the hilarity and convivial chit-chat flowing...

IF it was legal to grow cannabis do you think:

Everybody would grow enough for themselves?

or

There would be lazy-arses couldn't be naffed growing the stuff who would still find somebody to buy it from? (or steal it from)

Both. Not everyone makes their own booze... and there is a social element of going out and tying different beers so I assume similar would happen in regards to weed.

I blame the parents. My three kids are all adults, two daughters married and son now 37. (Yes he has left home...). We are a very close family and the kids were brought up in an atmosphere of mutual respect, open honesty and trust.

I blame the daughter. She has taken it upon herself to come up with an answer that is brutal anyway you look at it. She is getting her way and to hell with the wishes of her parents.

Edbear

8th April 2013, 20:53

Madness

8th April 2013, 20:55

She is 33 and mother of our two current grandsons, she has been through a lot and has a good medical understanding along with her trust in me. She trusts me completely based on both her own knowledge and her history in knowing me that I wouldn't do something so stupid.

Thanks for replying Ed.

For what it's worth I'm 39 going on 40 and I've probably been through a lot, but who hasn't? I have a good understanding of the effects of Cannabis on myself and I trust my ability to make sensible decisions, both under the influence and not. I kind of like myself and enjoy life with no intentions of getting off the planet by doing something stupid. Let me share your burden, you've been man enough to admit driving on Tramadol. I sometimes drive whilst enjoying the effects of Cannabis (sssshhhhh! :niceone: )

We're not so different after all are we Ed?

Edbear

8th April 2013, 20:56

Both. Not everyone makes their own booze... and there is a social element of going out and tying different beers so I assume similar would happen in regards to weed.

I blame the daughter. She has taken it upon herself to come up with an answer that is brutal anyway you look at it. She is getting her way and to hell with the wishes of her parents.

How can you make a fair judgement without knowing anything about the family? You don't know what her parents are like or anything about her relationship with them. You make sweeping assumptions simply because you support dope.

Brian d marge

8th April 2013, 20:58

Edbear

8th April 2013, 21:00

Thanks for replying Ed.

For what it's worth I'm 39 going on 40 and I've probably been through a lot, but who hasn't? I have a good understanding of the effects of Cannabis on myself and I trust my ability to make sensible decisions, both under the influence and not. I kind of like myself and enjoy life with no intentions of getting off the planet by doing something stupid. Let me share your burden, you've been man enough to admit driving on Tramadol. I sometimes drive whilst enjoying the effects of Cannabis (sssshhhhh! :niceone: )

We're not so different after all are we Ed?

You are funny, hilariously wrong but funny! We couldn't be more different. Of course you have discussed side effects of Cannabis with your Dr. and worked out which drug is best for you and it's side effects per dose?

Fergus

8th April 2013, 21:04

One stoners uninformed rant

:niceone: Cool story bro, I'll forward it to the Lancet ("one of the world's best known, oldest, and most respected general medical journals" BBC news) I'm sure they'll retract the research and send you a nice thank you letter for setting them straight.

:facepalm:

Madness

8th April 2013, 21:06

You are funny, hilariously wrong but funny! We couldn't be more different. Of course you have discussed side effects of Cannabis with your Dr. and worked out which drug is best for you and it's side effects per dose?

My doctor (I don't actually have a doctor - they're for sick people) wouldn't have a fucking clue what's best for me. Last time I saw a doctor they tried to get me to cease using Cannabis and put me on prescription pharmaceuticals, it was the worst couple of weeks ever before I figured bugger the doctor & resumed normal service.

The fact is, you're happy to judge when you're "in control" and where the limits are for you. The same can be said for someone who has been using Cannabis for a long time. It's as dangerous as having an extra teaspoon of sugar in your tea/coffee. If you disagree with this then how can you stand by your own assertion and please don't bring the doctors into it because the doctors aren't inside your head.

By the way, the girl in the OP is still a cunt. I changed my mind.

Edbear

8th April 2013, 21:06

Oh, PS. I suffer a chronic illness that among other not nice symptoms causes fatigue so I have to consider several factors when driving. Managing both the illness and after effects of major spinal surgery means I have to be very knowledgable medically and plan my activities around my limitations.

I can't afford to do anything that impairs my mental faculties more than absolutely necessary. If for any reason I feel unsafe I won't drive. My ego has no problem in asking others to take over the wheel.

mashman

8th April 2013, 21:06

How can you make a fair judgement without knowing anything about the family? You don't know what her parents are like or anything about her relationship with them. You make sweeping assumptions simply because you support dope.

I'm trying to find a situation where dobbing the folks in for the plants is a logical outcome. I can't think of one. You can?

Edbear

8th April 2013, 21:09

My doctor (I don't actually have a doctor - they're for sick people) wouldn't have a fucking clue what's best for me. Last time I saw a doctor they tried to get me to cease using Cannabis and put me on prescription pharmaceuticals, it was the worst couple of weeks ever before I figured bugger the doctor & resumed normal service.

The fact is, you're happy to judge when you're "in control" and where the limits are for you. The same can be said for someone who has been using Cannabis for a long time. It's as dangerous as having an extra teaspoon of sugar in your tea/coffee. If you disagree with this then how can you stand by your own assertion and please don't bring the doctors into it because the doctors aren't inside your head.

By the way, the girl in the OP is still a cunt. I changed my mind.

Ever heard of withdrawal symptoms?

mashman

8th April 2013, 21:11

if you can afford the bandwidth have a look at the bbc prog I posted

Weed , natural pretty mutch ok

man made , not good to be home made

Stephen

It doesn't play for me :(

Edbear

8th April 2013, 21:11

I'm trying to find a situation where dobbing the folks in for the plants is a logical outcome. I can't think of one. You can?

Without knowing all the facts I reserve judgement and remain neutral and open minded. Shame everyone can't be that way inclined.

Madness

8th April 2013, 21:11

Ever heard of withdrawal symptoms?

People get those when they're addicted. I am addicted to nicotine, not Cannabis.

Mate, I'm really worried now, you're a bit of a time bomb.

http://safetyincentives.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/safety-time-bomb.png

Edbear

8th April 2013, 21:14

People get those when they're addicted. I am addicted to nicotine, not Cannabis.

Mate, I'm really worried now, you're a bit of a time bomb.

:lol: :killingme: :clap:

Of course you're not addicted, you can stop any time... :rolleyes:

mashman

8th April 2013, 21:16

Without knowing all the facts I reserve judgement and remain neutral and open minded. Shame everyone can't be that way inclined.

I have thought about it and see no reason for the outcome. Til then she will remain one of many negative things for me. However that does not stop me from changing my mind where someone can offer me 1 valid reason. So I'm still open minded, but I have made a decision given situations that I can think of.

Madness

8th April 2013, 21:16

Of course you're not addicted, you can stop any time...

Correct, I think you're starting to get it. Keep it up. I wish I could go without tobacco as easily as I can go without Cannabis, evil shit that nicotine.

Katman

8th April 2013, 21:17

:lol: :killingme: :clap:

Of course you're not addicted, you can stop any time... :rolleyes:

Like you and tramadol?

Edbear

8th April 2013, 21:21

Like you and tramadol?

If the Doc can come up with something better with no side effects, why not? I have already said I can cut way down by simply resting instead of getting up and doing stuff. I take it for pain, what is do hard about that to understand?

Madness

8th April 2013, 21:23

Tick... Tick... Tick...

Katman

8th April 2013, 21:24

I take it for pain, what is do hard about that to understand?

Sounds like a convenient excuse.

Edbear

8th April 2013, 21:29

Sounds like a convenient excuse.

Oh sorry, you don't agree with taking painkillers when required? I know first hand what it means to be addicted to prescription painkillers. Not that you would care of course. No wonder I decided to ignore you for a while.

Katman

8th April 2013, 21:31

Oh sorry, you don't agree with taking painkillers when required?

Throughout the numerous injuries I've inflicted on my body over the years I've never taken painkillers.

Maybe you're just a soft cock though.

Katman

8th April 2013, 21:36

You know the funny thing about doctors prescribing pain killers Ed?

They actually don't know whether the patient is just lying (or at the very least exaggerating) just to get access to the drugs.

Edbear

8th April 2013, 21:37

Throughout the numerous injuries I've inflicted on my body over the years I've never taken painkillers.

Maybe you're just a soft cock though.

Oh you are so tough! I am in awe of you! :rolleyes:

Madness

8th April 2013, 21:39

You know the funny thing about doctors prescribing pain killers Ed?

They actually don't know whether the patient is just lying (or at the very least exaggerating) just to get access to the drugs.

It's how Heroin addicts support their addiction in this country, through Morphine Sulphate tablets either sold by the prescription holder or stolen. Ed could be sitting on a little gold mine.

Edbear

8th April 2013, 21:39

You know the funny thing about doctors prescribing pain killers Ed?

They actually don't know whether the patient is just lying (or at the very least exaggerating) just to get access to the drugs.

Wow, you know more than Drs. too! Even my own GP, my surgeon, my Osteopath, my Anaesthetist, and all the senior nurses! My awe of you grows by the minute! :scratch:

Katman

8th April 2013, 21:41

Wow, you know more than Drs. too! Even my own GP, my surgeon, my Osteopath, my Anaesthetist, and all the senior nurses! My awe of you grows by the minute! :scratch:

Do they have a little machine that they plug into you Ed that measures your pain level?

Or do they just take your word for it?

Edbear

8th April 2013, 21:41

It's how Heroin addicts support their addiction in this country, through Morphine Sulphate tablets either sold be the prescription holder or stolen. Ed could be sitting on a little gold mine.

Don't use it. Stronger than I need.

Madness

8th April 2013, 21:44

Don't use it. Stronger than I need.

I hope you handed back any leftovers. It's not good stuff to be in posession of, particularly now that you've advertised the fact that you've been on it. In fact I'd rather be in posession of a few Cannabis plants illegally than a jar of Morphine Sulphate tabs with a script.

Were they the big green ones?

Edbear

8th April 2013, 21:47

Do they have a little machine that they plug into you Ed that measures your pain level?

Or do they just take your word for it?

Ok so I was teasing... I am not in awe of you, you're too dumb. My very highly qualified Drs. and surgeon, senior nurses, in fact all who treated me are also very experienced in my operation and the extent of my injuries. They have no trouble in assessing my level of pain and disability. CT scans and X-rays, my level of movement are enough for them to believe my own assessment of how much doing whatever hurts. My surgeon even warned me that I would live with pain from then on.

Laava

8th April 2013, 21:54

People get those when they're addicted. I am addicted to nicotine, not Cannabis.

Mate, I'm really worried now, you're a bit of a time bomb.

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+1 I had no trouble giving up the weed, free to me as it goes, but the tobacco was a whole nother story. I had three cracks at it before stopping for good.

Katman

8th April 2013, 21:55

Ok so I was teasing... I am not in awe of you, you're too dumb. My very highly qualified Drs. and surgeon, senior nurses, in fact all who treated me are also very experienced in my operation and the extent of my injuries. They have no trouble in assessing my level of pain and disability. CT scans and X-rays, my level of movement are enough for them to believe my own assessment of how much doing whatever hurts. My surgeon even warned me that I would live with pain from then on.

Ed, the reality with doctors is that if you go "ouch" they'll give you a painkiller for it.

The reality is though that they don't actually know exactly how much need you have for your pain relief.

You could just as easily be simply feeding a habit.

Edbear

8th April 2013, 21:56

I hope you handed back any leftovers. It's not good stuff to be in posession of, particularly now that you've advertised the fact that you've been on it. In fact I'd rather be in posession of a few Cannabis plants illegally than a jar of Morphine Sulphate tabs with a script.

Were they the big green ones?

Small white ones. Raiding my first aid cupboard would be a waste of time. I return unused meds to the Pharmacy. I only get enough Tramadol on script to last about a month and the side effects are so diverse only an idiot would try it in any significant dosage. Oh, wait...

bosslady

8th April 2013, 21:58

grrrrrrrrrrowl, yea baby, hot!

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Gowl0_VGPLA/TrS3dvNex9I/AAAAAAAAAFw/2_G83qsTfBw/s1600/stock-photo-two-gay-men-at-the-beach-kissing-22187956.jpg

Edbear

8th April 2013, 21:58

Ed, the reality with doctors is that if you go "ouch" they'll give you a painkiller for it.

The reality is though that they don't actually know exactly how much need you have for your pain relief.

You could just as easily be feeding a habit.

Well if you can respond with that after reading my post I will go back to ignoring you.

ducatilover

8th April 2013, 22:00

err, all you anti guys.

what are the cannabanoid receptors in a human's brain for?

For Jebus my good sir, have you found him?

Katman

8th April 2013, 22:00

Well if you can respond with that after reading my post I will go back to ignoring you.

Don't be like that Ed.

We need to talk about your addiction.

Edbear

8th April 2013, 22:02

Don't be like that Ed.

We need to talk about your addiction.

Leave my wife out of it...

Laava

8th April 2013, 22:03

grrrrrrrrrrowl, yea baby, hot!

dis fucken turbing

Stop! Just stop! And off topic! And stuff!
OMfG it's in your avatar and everything!

Katman

8th April 2013, 22:04

Have you ever considered managing your pain with meditation Ed?

Madness

8th April 2013, 22:05

I only get enough Tramadol on script to last about a month and the side effects are so diverse only an idiot would try it in any significant dosage. Oh, wait...

You don't want to over do things, eh Ed. This is why I only roll race-horses these days, no more 3-papers for me - I'm getting too old for that malarkey. I see you've been helping the doctors with their pain research, very noble of you.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m01afkbR3X1qdzlu6o1_1280.jpg

ducatilover

8th April 2013, 22:05

Have you ever considered managing your pain with meditation Ed?

Could have blocked chacras
And everyone know that shit's fucked.

Madness

8th April 2013, 22:06

OMfG it's in your avatar and everything!

She reckons Hitcher has consented to his photo being used too. I seriously doubt this in light of how testy Hitch became after the pics of him dressed in his Tron suit emerged.

Katman

8th April 2013, 22:07

This may be of help if you want to break your addiction Ed.

http://www.webmd.com/pain-management/hypnosis-meditation-and-relaxation-for-pain-treatment

Edbear

8th April 2013, 22:09

Have you ever considered managing your pain with meditation Ed?

I have explored pretty much all avenues. Having nearly died five times in my adult life and with a hospital file you could use as a step stool there is not much I haven't experienced. I still use meditation and relaxation techniques among a range of coping mechanisms for pain and other symptoms of my illness.

Laava

8th April 2013, 22:09

Madness

8th April 2013, 22:10

I have explored pretty much all avenues. Having nearly died five times in my adult life and with a hospital file you could use as a step stool there is not much I haven't experienced.

Except Cannabis. Wouldn't it be great if it weren't illegal?

Laava

8th April 2013, 22:11

She reckons Hitcher has consented to his photo being used too. I seriously doubt this in light of how testy he became after the pics of him dressed in his Tron suit emerged.

Haha ewwww! I remember that, he dresses to the left!

Mushu

8th April 2013, 22:11

You know the funny thing about doctors prescribing pain killers Ed?

They actually don't know whether the patient is just lying (or at the very least exaggerating) just to get access to the drugs.

Good point (damn, I hate agreeing with katman), my old flatmate was an expert at getting whatever he wanted out of his GP, through him I experienced all of the most intense highs of my life, he introduced me to codiene, morphene, diazepam, dexamphetemine, triazepam, valium, oxycontin and plenty if other drugs I can't remember, all of which had a far stronger effect than cannabis, a couple of these I took over long periods (codiene, to relieve pain and valium to relieve insomnia) and found long term use had some pretty bad downsides, on the other hand weed did the job of both these drugs, with no apparent side effects over an extremely long period and with far less withdrawl than the others. Every stoner knows what it's like not to be able to find weed, doesn't matter how connected you are, it just happens sometimes and it's not that big of a deal.

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Katman

8th April 2013, 22:12

I still use meditation and relaxation techniques among a range of coping mechanisms for pain and other symptoms of my illness.

But nothing beats the drugs, ay Ed?

Edbear

8th April 2013, 22:16

But nothing beats the drugs, ay Ed?

You are like a dog with a bone, a very dumb dog. :weird:

I'm tired now, I'm going to sleep.

Madness

8th April 2013, 22:17

I'm tired now, I'm going to sleep.

Goodnight Ed! Sweet dreams.

ducatilover

8th April 2013, 22:18

Good point (damn, I hate agreeing with katman), my old flatmate was an expert at getting whatever he wanted out of his GP, through him I experienced all of the most intense highs of my life, he introduced me to codiene, morphene, diazepam, dexamphetemine, triazepam, valium, oxycontin and plenty if other drugs I can't remember, all of which had a far stronger effect than cannabis, a couple of these I took over long periods (codiene, to relieve pain and valium to relieve insomnia) and found long term use had some pretty bad downsides, on the other hand weed did the job of both these drugs, with no apparent side effects over an extremely long period and with far less withdrawl than the others. Every stoner knows what it's like not to be able to find weed, doesn't matter how connected you are, it just happens sometimes and it's not that big of a deal.

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Codeine did nothing for me except lower my kidney function :lol:

Katman

8th April 2013, 22:26

We can still see you peeking Ed.

It's ok - you can go to sleep.

We'll still be here in the morning.

Mushu

8th April 2013, 22:27

Codeine did nothing for me except lower my kidney function :lol:

Works quite well for me, you gotta get the good ones though 30mg or more. In NZ doctors seem to prefer to give out the 7mg pills (15mg panadiene is avaliable over the counter in Australia) which require taking atleast 6 to get the job done, not recommended due to the fact they all have 500mg of paracetamol in them, which tends to play havok on my kidneys too and my research suggests the liver as well.

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bosslady

8th April 2013, 22:28

We can still see you peeking Ed.

It's ok - you can go to sleep.

We'll still be here in the morning.

You've spent so much time arguing you haven't responded to my text. Disgraceful. I thought you were a 24hr service. Don't you love me anymore? Did you ever? :lol:

ducatilover

8th April 2013, 22:30

Works quite well for me, you gotta get the good ones though 30mg or more.
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2x50mg four times a day was my recommended dosage
Something to do with a broken thing and some other damaged stuff I did once.
Did sweet f.a for the pain, but it constipated me pretty well. Then stomach issues and kidneys got gay.
Bloody good times I tell ya :cool:

bogan

8th April 2013, 22:31

Works quite well for me, you gotta get the good ones though 30mg or more. In NZ doctors seem to prefer to give out the 7mg pills (15mg panadiene is avaliable over the counter in Australia) which require taking atleast 6 to get the job done, not recommended due to the fact they all have 500mg of paracetamol in them, which tends to play havok on my kidneys too and my research suggests the liver as well.

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You gotta read the fine print on that shit though (or get a doctor who actually bothers to tell you things). Was taking some pills for chest pain, then they fucked up my guts but with the heartburn it still felt like chest pain so I took some more.

cunty fucking things, ended up in hospital over that one.

Katman

8th April 2013, 22:32

You've spent so much time arguing you haven't responded to my text. Disgraceful. I thought you were a 24hr service. Don't you love me anymore? Did you ever? :lol:

Thank-you for bringing it to my attention that I've left my mobile at work.

bosslady

8th April 2013, 22:34

Thank-you for bringing it to my attention that I've left my mobile at work.

Phew, I can relax...

Madness

8th April 2013, 22:35

42 pages. Scummy will be so proud of us.

Mushu

8th April 2013, 22:40

You gotta read the fine print on that shit though (or get a doctor who actually bothers to tell you things). Was taking some pills for chest pain, then they fucked up my guts but with the heartburn it still felt like chest pain so I took some more.

cunty fucking things, ended up in hospital over that one.

Yea, I actually went back to weed because of the effect it had on my gut and the tightness in the chest they seem to give after a few days, these days I just go completely without, which means a cunt of a pain in my shoulder and back to major problems sleeping (while certain sleeping pills do knock me out I wake up feeling like shit) that's why I often post at 3 or 4am

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Edbear

9th April 2013, 06:50

Nothing much overnight, I see.

I did sleep well and apart from a weird dream about making a blanket for the ocean I had a good night.

Grubber

9th April 2013, 09:14

Because if you had ever had a sesh, you wouldn't be proving to everyone what an idiot you are by making such stupid comments.

There's a big difference between a casual toker and "dope head", just like there is a difference between a casual drinker and an alcoholic. If that's too difficult for you to comprehend, then you're clearly not as smart as you think you are.

There is no difference between a dope head and a full on drinker. Once they partake they are fizzed one way or another and if you can't or don't want to figure that out then you are a way bigger idiot than i am.

SMOKEU

9th April 2013, 09:18

There is no difference between a dope head and a full on drinker. Once they partake they are fizzed one way or another and if you can't or don't want to figure that out then you are a way bigger idiot than i am.

The difference between the two is like night and day. Alcohol, taken in large quantities, has a far greater effect on the cognitive abilities of the user in comparison to cannabis. It's a well known fact, based on millions of users of both substances around the world.

http://www.mercedescla.org/forum/attachments/413d1363734357-tons-mercedes-benz-cla45-pictures-available-facepalm.jpeg

Grubber

9th April 2013, 09:20

Dinner was delicious, a nice cold Speights together and all while I was warm and fuzzy on cannabis. Sorry dude.

Guess I'm not getting invited back now.

Just as an amusing aside.
I talked to my daughter last night regarding this forum subject and then asked her if she remembered you when you dropped in.
Her answer was "Yea i remember him, he was a bit weird to be honest"
I then informed her that you made tha comment that you had been smoking pot before you arrived and she replied with
" now that all makes sence, he seemed a bit dodgy"
Not my words but my well adjusted 25 year old.

Which reinforces my thoughts on dope users.
They are commonly disrespectful of other people and very self centred at the best.

SMOKEU

9th April 2013, 09:26

Just as an amusing aside.
I talked to my daughter last night regarding this forum subject and then asked her if she remembered you when you dropped in.
Her answer was "Yea i remember him, he was a bit weird to be honest"
I then informed her that you made tha comment that you had been smoking pot before you arrived and she replied with
" now that all makes sence, he seemed a bit dodgy"
Not my words but my well adjusted 25 year old.

Which reinforces my thoughts on dope users.
They are commonly disrespectful of other people and very self centred at the best.

"Well adjusted 25 year old"? :rofl: :rofl:

Well adjusted at what? Being a judgmental, hypocritical fool like yourself? Nice job of parenting.

Katman

9th April 2013, 09:29

Just as an amusing aside.
I talked to my daughter last night regarding this forum subject and then asked her if she remembered you when you dropped in.
Her answer was "Yea i remember him, he was a bit weird to be honest"
I then informed her that you made tha comment that you had been smoking pot before you arrived and she replied with
" now that all makes sence, he seemed a bit dodgy"
Not my words but my well adjusted 25 year old.

Which reinforces my thoughts on dope users.
They are commonly disrespectful of other people and very self centred at the best.

Dude, you're just making yourself look more and more foolish.

Edbear

9th April 2013, 09:31

The difference between the two is like night and day. Alcohol, taken in large quantities, has a far greater effect on the cognitive abilities of the user in comparison to cannabis. It's a well known fact, based on millions of users of both substances around the world.]

References would be good.

SMOKEU

9th April 2013, 09:32

References would be good.

Some things are so obvious that they don't need references. Do you also expect me to reference the fact that water is wet and that fire is hot?

Edbear

9th April 2013, 09:35

Some things are so obvious that they don't need references. Do you also expect me to reference the fact that water is wet and that fire is hot?

Ah, so it is your personal opinion, not researched fact. Funny how the most "vocal" supporters tend to state personal opinion and anecdotal evidence as absolute fact, eh? :rolleyes:

SMOKEU

9th April 2013, 09:39

Ah, so it is your personal opinion, not researched fact. Funny how the most "vocal" supporters tend to state personal opinion and anecdotal evidence as absolute fact, eh? :rolleyes:

If you do some Googling you will find that the effects of consuming cannabis and alcohol are vastly different. Ethanol and the various psychoactive cannabinoids present in cannabis affect the body in completely different ways.

You should just have a sesh and compare it to being pissed. Go on, you know you secretly want to. I dare you. Be a rebel for once.

Katman

9th April 2013, 09:40

Funny how the most "vocal" supporters tend to state personal opinion and anecdotal evidence as absolute fact, eh? :rolleyes:

Once again Ed, that's you to a T.

Edbear

9th April 2013, 09:54

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2722956/

"Attentiveness, vigilance, perception of time and speed, and use of acquired knowledge are all affected by marijuana;18–21 in fact, a meta-analysis of 60 studies concluded that marijuana causes impairment in every performance area that can reasonably be connected with safe driving of a vehicle, such as tracking, motor coordination, visual functions, and particularly complex tasks that require divided attention..."

"Not all deficits can be compensated for through the use of behavioral strategies, however. Both alcohol and marijuana use increase reaction time and the number of incorrect responses to emergencies.43 Drivers under the influence of marijuana were not able to compensate for standard deviation of lateral position (SDLP, a measure of staying within lane), which increased with increasing doses of THC. This is a measure that is not subject to conscious compensatory mechanisms in the way that other aspects of driving are. Other studies have found poorer monitoring of the speedometer under the influence of marijuana,54 increased decision time when passing,52 increased time needed to brake when a light suddenly changes,55 and increased time to respond to a changing light45, 56 or sudden sound.57 Drivers also crashed more frequently into a sudden obstacle on a high dose of marijuana, although this did not happen at a low dose."

Mixed issues in this report and yes, I did note the obvious points users will highlight. The comments I have quoted are in spite of those factors, these remain.

"One weakness of driving studies is that subjects are aware of being observed and assessed, so such studies are generally a better measure of what drivers are capable of doing rather than what they actually do. Epidemiological studies attempt to assess the actual risk that a driver may cause an accident under the influence of a drug, relative to that of a sober person driving under similar conditions."

"In summary, laboratory tests and driving studies show that cannabis may acutely impair several driving-related skills in a dose-related fashion, but that the effects between individuals vary more than they do with alcohol because of tolerance, differences in smoking technique, and different absorptions of THC. Driving and simulator studies show that detrimental effects vary in a dose-related fashion, and are more pronounced with highly automatic driving functions, but more complex tasks that require conscious control are less affected, which is the opposite pattern from that seen with alcohol. "

So a lot of argument about the subject yet to come and more accurate studies are required. One factor I noted was the rapidity with which THC leaves the body which meant that by the time the accident victim is tested their levels may be significantly lower than at the time of the accident or even gone completely.

bogan

9th April 2013, 09:56

Edbear

9th April 2013, 09:57

Wow; KB must hove some super duper irony protection upgrades for the servers not to have imploded after that statement :whistle:

See above for a starter... :calm:

Grubber

9th April 2013, 10:31

"Well adjusted 25 year old"? :rofl: :rofl:

Well adjusted at what? Being a judgmental, hypocritical fool like yourself? Nice job of parenting.

Typical dope smoking response!
No surprises there!

She doesnt touch drugs, drink very little, has huge scores at al levels from uni and previous school experience and is the Mother of 2 amazing kids.

That makes her better than a racist, dope smoking faggot like you in my books.

Grubber

9th April 2013, 10:33

SMOKEU

9th April 2013, 10:38

blackdog

9th April 2013, 10:41

Have you been smoking dope Grubber?

Your 25 year old daughter wasn't even there.

Katman

9th April 2013, 10:45

Oops.

Busted again.

:facepalm:

bogan

9th April 2013, 10:51

Have you been smoking dope Grubber?

Your 25 year old daughter wasn't even there.

Look, if weed makes you not see 25yo women, who knows what you'll miss if driving when under the pot :laugh:

SMOKEU

9th April 2013, 10:59

ducatilover

9th April 2013, 11:31

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2722956/

"Attentiveness, vigilance, perception of time and speed etc etc rare insightful post to do with fact stuff. .

Good post Ed. I'm pretty sure we all knew that can-a-bish does impair ones ability to function normally and increases with dosage, and I'll be surprised to see any reasonable argument over this. Or any reasonable argument at all?

And where the hell are my clones?

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imdying

9th April 2013, 11:58

Have you been smoking dope Grubber?

Your 25 year old daughter wasn't even there.What would you know you dirty dope smoking hippy! :laugh:

Mushu

9th April 2013, 12:09

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2722956/
Blah blah blah..........

Nobody ever said weed doesn't have an effect, smokeu has a point that you can get way more fucked up on alcohol, it doesn't impare motor function in the same way.
Even extreme amounts of cannabis just results it an intense lethargy, I have tested the non-toxicity of cannabis many times with incredible doses, and I'm always able to get myself to bed unassisted.

I believe even the pro cannabis camp would be happy to be subject to similar rules in regard to driving as alcohol and prescription medication, my preferance would be a sobriety test much like they use in America.

Grubber, lol, keep digging that hole, you are providing most of the entertainment in this thread.

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ducatilover

9th April 2013, 12:27

Nobody ever said weed doesn't have an effect, smokeu has a point that you can get way more fucked up on alcohol, it doesn't impare motor function in the same way.
Even extreme amounts of cannabis just results it an intense lethargy, I have tested the non-toxicity of cannabis many times with incredible doses, and I'm always able to get myself to bed unassisted.

I believe even the pro cannabis camp would be happy to be subject to similar rules in regard to driving as alcohol and prescription medication, my preferance would be a sobriety test much like they use in America.

Grubber, lol, keep digging that hole, you are providing most of the entertainment in this thread.

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Cannabis does more than make one lethargic
There are many, many articles on the adverse effects of cannabis, as there are quite a few on the positives.

I'm overly sure if personal experience should be used in a rational argument? If we can, I've smoked plenty of pot and it never did me any good, and I can say I was fucking useless on it.

Fast Eddie

9th April 2013, 12:42

Mushu

9th April 2013, 12:46

Cannabis does more than make one lethargic
There are many, many articles on the adverse effects of cannabis, as there are quite a few on the positives.

I'm overly sure if personal experience should be used in a rational argument? If we can, I've smoked plenty of pot and it never did me any good, and I can say I was fucking useless on it.

Not just personal experience, I have smoked with many, many people, and have seen the absolute worst effects if the drug (drug induced psychosis and emphysema), even this is subjective but I do stand by my statement that the effects of extreme dosages of alcohol are worse than extreme dosages of pot, I have been paralytic from too much alcohol, throwing up and incapable of anything at all, and I have seen it dozens of times even in those with a massive tolerance, I have also felt and seen the effects of extreme cannabis use and never lost even close to that level of function, still capable of carrying on a conversation, making myself a coffee or playing video games, but wouldn't consider driving in that state, hence roadside testing should be employed to allow the cops to do something about those who are happy to drive in that state.

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Mushu

9th April 2013, 12:58

Well since we all have the ability to grow our own fruit and veges yet most don't and rather go buy it from a shop ready to go.. (or steal it) I'm guessing most people are lazy arses that will go and buy it..

Yes, that is true, that is the basis for my argument that it should be grown commercially and sold, regulated and taxed under similar rules to alcohol, undercut the gangs and remove their ability to make a profit (I would suggest that cannabis would be the biggest source of income to a gang, as it's easy and quite safe to grow aswell as popular enough to have a huge customer base)

Of course this would seriously affect police budget (freeing up that money for education or healthcare swell as providing more), and force them to spend their time actually catching criminals, but who wants that, certainly not the police.

Who the hell steals fruit and veges? Is this a major problem? Perhaps the police should organize a task force to eradicate this scourge of hardened criminals stealing apples and pumpkins, bring back capital punishment do we can give em the chair.

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SMOKEU

9th April 2013, 13:02

and have seen the absolute worst effects if the drug (drug induced psychosis and emphysema),

Those would have been preexisting conditions that are not necessarily related to cannabis consumption.

Fast Eddie

9th April 2013, 13:10

..dope users...They are commonly disrespectful of other people and very self centred at the best.

ha! so you DO use dope

Mushu

9th April 2013, 13:11

Those would have been preexisting conditions that are not necessarily related to cannabis consumption.

Yep, agreed, every cannabis smoker who I have seen with emphysema also smoked atleast a pack a day of cigarettes, and the psychosis episode I'm talking about was exasperated by (extremely heavy) pot use, but was preexisting.

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Fast Eddie

9th April 2013, 13:13

(I would suggest that cannabis would be the biggest source of income to a gang, as it's easy and quite safe to grow aswell as popular enough to have a huge customer base)
I would have thought winz was their biggest source of income..

hehe just kidding

Mushu

9th April 2013, 13:16

I would have thought winz was their biggest source of income..

hehe just kidding

Touche. lol

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Fast Eddie

9th April 2013, 13:27

... then you are a way bigger idiot than i am.
woo, bold claim.

..has huge scores at al levels from uni and previous school experience.

huge scores at all levels from uni? That doesn't even make sense. It's not a football match.

I take it she has a PhD then at least? and got a scholarship or two? I'd hope so because even a dope head can manage that..

imdying

9th April 2013, 13:35

I take it she has a PhD then at least? and got a scholarship or two? I'd hope so because even a dope head can manage that..Yeah you'd hope so... even a cannabis user can get a degree with honours whilst running their own business, so surely little Miss Straight Up Her Arse can sort a PhD?

Mushu

9th April 2013, 13:40

Typical dope smoking response!
No surprises there!

She doesnt touch drugs, drink very little, has huge scores at al levels from uni and previous school experience and is the Mother of 2 amazing kids.

That makes her better than a racist, dope smoking faggot like you in my books.

Would you say she is smarter more driven and more successful than Richard Branson, a very well noted 'dope smoker' and public marijuana activist http://m.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/jan/24/cannabis-tax-branson-mps-virgin

Also, I note that you refer to smokeu as typical, a racist and a faggot, are your whole family as small minded as you, I know plenty of stoners and am yet to figure out what a typical dope smoker is, I have yet to see a racist comment from smokeu and if he is a fag, how is that important here?

I pray those grandkids if yours figure out what a small minded, lying moron you are and learn to think for themselves, or they're doomed to a life of hate, like yourself.

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Madness

9th April 2013, 13:42

:corn:

Like sands in the hourglass....

Grubber

9th April 2013, 13:47

Is that really the best you can come up with? You can't fabricate a reasonable explanation to refute my statement(s), so you have to resort to petty personal attacks. It really says more about you than it does about me.

Oh, and please post some pics of your daughter if she's a MILF.

And my response is worse than your immature one, oh please!
Like i would ever let you anywhere near my family.
Not that i would have to tell her that, she already figured you for a wanker!

Grubber

9th April 2013, 13:48

Have you been smoking dope Grubber?

Your 25 year old daughter wasn't even there.

Have you! they were both there. One for only a short time.

Grubber

9th April 2013, 13:53

Grubber, if you're going to keep lying, then do yourself a favour and keep your story straight. Failing to do so only removes any credibility you may have left (not that you really had any to begin with). Served!

Sorry but she was there, me thinks somebody may have missed that bit. Served yourself.
And considering you were no where to be found on the day, i don;t reckon you can make comment.
Oh that's right, your a dope head too so you need to stick together.

Grubber

9th April 2013, 13:55

Grubber

9th April 2013, 14:15

Would you say she is smarter more driven and more successful than Richard Branson, a very well noted 'dope smoker' and public marijuana activist http://m.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/jan/24/cannabis-tax-branson-mps-virgin

Also, I note that you refer to smokeu as typical, a racist and a faggot, are your whole family as small minded as you, I know plenty of stoners and am yet to figure out what a typical dope smoker is, I have yet to see a racist comment from smokeu and if he is a fag, how is that important here?

I pray those grandkids if yours figure out what a small minded, lying moron you are and learn to think for themselves, or they're doomed to a life of hate, like yourself.

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Your obviously not reading many of his posts, he most certainly is racist, but your welcome to jump on his dopey bandwagon if you wish.
Small minded??? It's called picking your friends wisely. And guess what, your also not one of them, and guess what also, I don't care if you don't care either.
Branson also tried to fly a balloon and see how successful that was!
Still not sure where you get the lying from, but who really cares.
Don't worry, my kids are in great hands, they know very well not to trust thier lives in dope!

SMOKEU

9th April 2013, 14:24

Branson also tried to fly a balloon and see how successful that was!

What is that meant to prove? Most people who ride motorbikes and don't smoke dope end up crashing at some stage as well. Does that mean that every crash can be attributed to illegal drugs, or does that only apply to hot air balloons?

ducatilover

9th April 2013, 14:52

Not just personal experience, I have smoked with many, many people, and have seen the absolute worst effects if the drug (drug induced psychosis and emphysema), even this is subjective but I do stand by my statement that the effects of extreme dosages of alcohol are worse than extreme dosages of pot, I have been paralytic from too much alcohol, throwing up and incapable of anything at all, and I have seen it dozens of times even in those with a massive tolerance, I have also felt and seen the effects of extreme cannabis use and never lost even close to that level of function, still capable of carrying on a conversation, making myself a coffee or playing video games, but wouldn't consider driving in that state, hence roadside testing should be employed to allow the cops to do something about those who are happy to drive in that state.

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YOou do raise a few good point.
I do think excessive consumption of alcohol is far owrse and more dangerous than pot.

Those would have been preexisting conditions that are not necessarily related to cannabis consumption.
You cannot say that for sure can you? In one of the articles I have linked here before shows evidence that smoking teh potz can lead to many respiratory issues. No surprise, as it's swallowing smoke. Although, I do not think the risks are as high (pun!) as sucking fags.

gwigs

9th April 2013, 14:53

Fuck this thread is funny...havent laughed some much for ages..
Grubbers a laugh eh ?....:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

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SMOKEU

9th April 2013, 14:56

You cannot say that for sure can you? In one of the articles I have linked here before shows evidence that smoking teh potz can lead to many respiratory issues. No surprise, as it's swallowing smoke. Although, I do not think the risks are as high (pun!) as sucking fags.

Inhaling all the pollution from exhaust fumes is worse for the respiratory system than smoking buds. Try hotboxing a garage or other enclosed space with exhaust smoke and see how you feel after. Actually, don't. You might die.

Mushu

9th April 2013, 15:02

Your obviously not reading many of his posts, he most certainly is racist, but your welcome to jump on his dopey bandwagon if you wish.
Small minded??? It's called picking your friends wisely. And guess what, your also not one of them, and guess what also, I don't care if you don't care either.
Branson also tried to fly a balloon and see how successful that was!
Still not sure where you get the lying from, but who really cares.
Don't worry, my kids are in great hands, they know very well not to trust thier lives in dope!

Even if smokeu us racist (with a post count of over 3000 I certainly haven't read everything he's written but I see no reference to it in this thread) its about as important to the point as his sexual orientation.
Please be my friend, I find people like you to be very entertaining.
Branson tried to fly a balloon around the world, quite an achievement if he had succeeded. (personally I think it stupid but who am I to judge, I ride a motorcycle.) and look at all the other things he has achieved, the fact he actually owns a spaceship is enough for me.

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ducatilover

9th April 2013, 15:08

Inhaling all the pollution from exhaust fumes is worse for the respiratory system than smoking buds. Try hotboxing a garage or other enclosed space with exhaust smoke and see how you feel after. Actually, don't. You might die.

Inhaling anthrax is worse.

Mushu

9th April 2013, 15:10

YOou do raise a few good point.
I do think excessive consumption of alcohol is far owrse and more dangerous than pot.

You cannot say that for sure can you? In one of the articles I have linked here before shows evidence that smoking teh potz can lead to many respiratory issues. No surprise, as it's swallowing smoke. Although, I do not think the risks are as high (pun!) as sucking fags.

That's the point though, the biggest problem with smoking pot is smoking it, which you don't have to do, and even if you do smoke it, the sheer amount smoked makes it less harmful than tobacco, the average 'stoner' wouldn't smoke 20 to 25 joints a day, not many would be able to smoke 50g a week which seem to be common enough amounts for nicotine lovers.

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imdying

9th April 2013, 15:12

Even if smokeu us racist (with a post count of over 3000 I certainly haven't read everything he's written but I see no reference to it in this thread)He's not, he just hates niggers is all. Wants to know why they're on that neigh.

Mushu

9th April 2013, 15:22

He's not, he just hates niggers is all. Wants to know why they're on that neigh.

What's a neigh? I have been labeled as a racist (it can be hard to get your full point across effectively in the internet) but I hate all ethnic groups, including the ones I find myself part of. And my position is nobody should be treated better or worse because of their ancestry, so I resent the fact there are often different rules for the groups who claim to have been "wronged" in the past. All people are fucked in the head when viewed as a group.

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Maha

9th April 2013, 15:42

Even if smokeu us racist (with a post count of over 3000 I certainly haven't read everything he's written but I see no reference to it in this thread)

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His actual post count total is 7547....take away the ones that count (3170) and he is left with 4377 posts that don't count....

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imdying

9th April 2013, 15:42

What's a neigh?Quote from Django Unchained. Apparently it's what coons called horses way back when.

Mushu

9th April 2013, 15:48

Quote from Django Unchained. Apparently it's what coons called horses way back when.

Ah, haven't seen that yet, must get around to watching it.

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mashman

9th April 2013, 16:12

oneofsix

9th April 2013, 16:16

yeah, but you can go without a cig for 4 days ya fuckin weirdo. When I smoke I wanna get up and attem and do something, I reserve sitting on the couch for when I'm straight.

Are you saying smoking cannabis makes you gay? really :weird:

bosslady

9th April 2013, 16:16

I am curious what profession those who are active/regular cannabis partakers are in? Purely curiosity, I don't actually care what you do as long as it doesn't affect me, children (any) or kill people! Personally I can't afford to get caught with illegal drugs in my system as I often work with equipment in situations where I could kill people and even if it wasn't the "drugs" that was the cause of any accident, I could still lose my job. I can also lose my job if I come to work under the influence of drugs or alcohol. If I am on painkillers etc. I am obligated to inform my employer as it could put the safety of others I work with, in jeopardy. Furthermore, if there are any truck drivers that come on to site under the influence of drugs or alcohol their supervisor(s) are called immediately and we refuse to take shipments. Is everybody here just paper pushers or what, no real consequences for you if you're caught out?

mashman

9th April 2013, 16:18

Are you saying smoking cannabis makes you gay? really :weird:

:rofl: it does turn me into a raving lesbian.

Mushu

9th April 2013, 16:24

I am curious what profession those who are active/regular cannabis partakers are in? Purely curiosity, I don't actually care what you do as long as it doesn't affect me, children (any) or kill people! Personally I can't afford to get caught with illegal drugs in my system as I often work with equipment in situations where I could kill people and even if it wasn't the "drugs" that was the cause of any accident, I could still lose my job. I can also lose my job if I come to work under the influence of drugs or alcohol. If I am on painkillers etc. I am obligated to inform my employer as it could put the safety of others I work with, in jeopardy. Is everybody here just paper pushers or what?

you will find cannabis users in every industry, even those that test for it (people have found plenty of work arounds) I have even smoked with police, pilots and military personnel.

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Edbear

9th April 2013, 16:36

ha! so you DO use dope

Where did you get that from? That was not my post. :scratch:

SMOKEU

9th April 2013, 16:45

its about as important to the point as his sexual orientation.

BTW, when he called me a faggot it was just wishful thinking on his part.

bosslady

9th April 2013, 16:53

you will find cannabis users in every industry, even those that test for it (people have found plenty of work arounds) I have even smoked with police, pilots and military personnel.

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I wasn't talking about other people. I meant the people posting in this thread. I don't see how you smoking with police has anything to do with what I asked. The implications of my actions can have serious consequences for myself, the ppl I work with and the company I work for. Also, as senior management its my job to be an example to my team. Coming to work under the influence of drugs or alcohol is considered serious misconduct. I mean I guess what I'm saying is there can be other repercussions from use of alcohol and drugs. Not just the stuff that's being slagged around in this thread. I've had to fire someone for drinking at work. It happens, you know.. For me, its just not worth it.

Madness

9th April 2013, 16:53

I am curious what profession those who are active/regular cannabis partakers are in?

I'm a chainsaw juggler. I also do a bit of coach driving on the side but mostly just in winter, driving busloads of tourists up to the ski fields.

Madness

9th April 2013, 16:56

Also, as senior management its my job to be an example to my team. I've had to fire someone for thinking at work. It happens, you know.. For me, its just not worth it.

Senior Management huh? Best you don't go leading with a bad example by thinking at work.

bosslady

9th April 2013, 16:56

I'm a chainsaw juggler. I also do a bit of coach driving on the side but mostly just in winter, driving busloads of tourists up to the ski fields.

Are you serious? I thought you were a professional Lesbian and did a bit of shit stirring on the side?

bosslady

9th April 2013, 16:57

Senior Management huh? Best you don't go leading with a bad example by thinking at work.

Fucking predictive text fail on my phone. Don't tell them I said that they aren't allowed to think!

Madness

9th April 2013, 17:01

Are you serious? I thought you were a professional Lesbian and did a bit of shit stirring on the side?

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I hope you're not at work as you obviously had to think about my reply.

bosslady

9th April 2013, 17:04

I hope you're not at work as you obviously had to think about my reply.

Nah. Sitting in my car waiting for you to come outside. Why are you taking so long?

Madness

9th April 2013, 17:06

Nah. Sitting in my car waiting for you to come outside. Why are you taking so long?

Don't wait any longer. I don't want the rest of the guys to see me fraternising with senior management, it'll blow my reputation.

bosslady

9th April 2013, 17:08

Don't wait any longer. I don't want the rest of the guys to see me fraternising with senior management, it'll blow my reputation.

Don't worry. I'm a cool boss. That's what my boys say. Of their own free will too, I swear.

SMOKEU

9th April 2013, 17:25

I wasn't talking about other people. I meant the people posting in this thread. I don't see how you smoking with police has anything to do with what I asked. The implications of my actions can have serious consequences for myself, the ppl I work with and the company I work for. Also, as senior management its my job to be an example to my team. Coming to work under the influence of drugs or alcohol is considered serious misconduct. I mean I guess what I'm saying is there can be other repercussions from use of alcohol and drugs. Not just the stuff that's being slagged around in this thread. I've had to fire someone for drinking at work. It happens, you know.. For me, its just not worth it.

Don't confuse what people do recreationally outside of work hours and work premises with someone showing up to work peeled as.

bosslady

9th April 2013, 17:35

Don't confuse what people do recreationally outside of work hours and work premises with someone showing up to work peeled as.
I'm not. But drugs and alcohol, especially drugs, doesn't disappear from your system instantaneously.

Mushu

9th April 2013, 17:35

I wasn't talking about other people. I meant the people posting in this thread. I don't see how you smoking with police has anything to do with what I asked. The implications of my actions can have serious consequences for myself, the ppl I work with and the company I work for. Also, as senior management its my job to be an example to my team. Coming to work under the influence of drugs or alcohol is considered serious misconduct. I mean I guess what I'm saying is there can be other repercussions from use of alcohol and drugs. Not just the stuff that's being slagged around in this thread. I've had to fire someone for drinking at work. It happens, you know.. For me, its just not worth it.

Very few of the pro cannabis side if this debate would be willing to say what they do for a job because if the legal implications. As anonymous as the internet is you can never be 100% sure.

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Mushu

9th April 2013, 17:38

I'm not. But drugs and alcohol, especially drugs, doesn't disappear from your system instantaneously.

I see the anti drug propaganda has been hard at work, the length of time certain drugs effect you in some cases are far shorter than alcohol.

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Akzle

9th April 2013, 17:43

:niceone: Cool story bro, I'll forward it to the Lancet ("one of the world's best known, oldest, and most respected general medical journals" BBC news) I'm sure they'll retract the research and send you a nice thank you letter for setting them straight.

:facepalm:
yes. believe in science. they held true that the earth revolved around the sun for a good half-millenia. but hell, that was a long time ago right? and fact is only fact as long as noone can prove you wrong, eh.

Oh, PS. I suffer a chronic illness that among other not nice symptoms causes fatigue so I have to consider several factors when driving. Managing both the illness and after effects of major spinal surgery means I have to be very knowledgable medically and plan my activities around my limitations.

I can't afford to do anything that impairs my mental faculties more than absolutely necessary. If for any reason I feel unsafe I won't drive. My ego has no problem in asking others to take over the wheel.
have you considered that your lifestyle choices are the cause? have you considered that god just doesn't love you?

You know the funny thing about doctors prescribing pain killers Ed?

They actually don't know whether the patient is just lying (or at the very least exaggerating) just to get access to the drugs.
they do have key indicators for drug seeking behaviour...

Wow, you know more than Drs. too! Even my own GP, my surgeon, my Osteopath, my Anaesthetist, and all the senior nurses! My awe of you grows by the minute! :scratch:
Ed! you're wasting so much money! next time you need an anesthetist, come see me, i'll knock you the fuck out real quick, and it wont cost the innocent, cannabis somking taxpayer a damn thing...

+1 I had no trouble giving up the weed, free to me as it goes, but the tobacco was a whole nother story. I had three cracks at it before stopping for good.
what a fucking quitter

I have explored pretty much all avenues. Having nearly died five times in my adult life and with a hospital file you could use as a step stool there is not much I haven't experienced. I still use meditation and relaxation techniques among a range of coping mechanisms for pain and other symptoms of my illness.
have you considered that your lifestyle is the cause? have you considered that jesus hates you? that you should be dead? who the fuck are you, ed, to argue or fight god's will?

Good point (damn, I hate agreeing with katman), my old flatmate was an expert at getting whatever he wanted out of his GP, through him I experienced all of the most intense highs of my life, he introduced me to codiene, morphene, diazepam,
things ending in -pam are bad for you. unless you're taking a long shot on a cop with an airgun.

Codeine did nothing for me except lower my kidney function :lol:
how does sugar affect you?

Works quite well for me, you gotta get the good ones though 30mg or more. In NZ doctors seem to prefer to give out the 7mg pills (15mg panadiene is avaliable over the counter in Australia) which require taking atleast 6 to get the job done, not recommended due to the fact they all have 500mg of paracetamol in them, which tends to play havok on my kidneys too and my research suggests the liver as well.

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paracetamol is bad. the average maximum dose is about 1200mcg.(that's one tray) it's the only analine analgesic left on the market, due to their inherent bad-ness for human consumption. take it with booze. it's good for you. (and causes more deaths per capita in 'MURICA, hoo-rah, than heroin.

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ahh fuckit, your'e a dick.

There is no difference between a dope head and a full on drinker. Once they partake they are fizzed one way or another and if you can't or don't want to figure that out then you are a way bigger idiot than i am.
big call. way big call. but coming from as big-an idiot as yourself, who's the judge?

Just as an amusing aside.
I talked to my daughter last night regarding this forum subject and then asked her if she remembered you when you dropped in.
Her answer was "Yea i remember him, he was a bit weird to be honest"
I then informed her that you made tha comment that you had been smoking pot before you arrived and she replied with
" now that all makes sence, he seemed a bit dodgy"
Not my words but my well adjusted 25 year old.

Which reinforces my thoughts on dope users.
They are commonly disrespectful of other people and very self centred at the best.
yes, your daughter re-enforces your belief in yourself and your prejudiced outlook. it would be a better indicator if she had the capacity or want, to express to you an opinion contrary to your own, or at least think for herself. give her my number, i'll put my penis in her.

if your kids aren't better than you, you've failed as a parent.

"Well adjusted 25 year old"? :rofl: :rofl:

Well adjusted at what? Being a judgmental, hypocritical fool like yourself? Nice job of parenting.
there isn't enough rep, apparently....

Some things are so obvious that they don't need references. Do you also expect me to reference the fact that water is wet and that fire is hot?
(...)

Don't worry, my kids are in great hands, they know very well not to trust thier lives in dope!
yeah. sure. the sad thing is that you probably believe that.

What's a neigh? I have been labeled as a racist (it can be hard to get your full point across effectively in the internet) but I hate all ethnic groups,
naai. as in fuck. as in slut. as in easy lay. geez.

i'm only racist against the human race.

:rofl: it does turn me into a raving lesbian.
i'm a vagitarian...

Don't wait any longer. I don't want the rest of the guys to see me fraternising with senior management, it'll blow my reputation.
you blow who in management?

nodrog

9th April 2013, 17:52

Fuck you stoners are funny, all precious and shit.

At least Alcoholics couldnt give a rats arse about trying to defend themselves.

Madness

9th April 2013, 18:04

Fuck you stoners are funny, all precious and shit.

At least Alcoholics couldnt give a rats arse about trying to defend themselves.

Alcoholics probably couldn't put a half-sensible sentence together to defend their habit. Just look at the Sidecar thread.

bosslady

9th April 2013, 18:05

I see the anti drug propaganda has been hard at work, the length of time certain drugs effect you in some cases are far shorter than alcohol.

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Assume what you will. People will always find a way to argue any point to support their own beliefs and find any way to justify what they say and do. Works for both sides. I'm not knocking people who do drugs, legal or not, But seems unless I do drugs, I'm not allowed an opinion, I'm a sheep etc. Oh well.

Madness

9th April 2013, 18:05

I'm not. But drugs and alcohol, especially drugs, doesn't disappear from your system instantaneously.

This is the problem with the flawed testing methods currently available for screening Cannabis. Because trace elements are present in ones system does not mean one is under the influence, quite unlike alcohol.

mashman

9th April 2013, 18:06

Well I was pretty smashed at work today. Learned not to take Tramadol on an empty stomach as it took me on a rather nasty journey of hot flushes to bitter chills to the lav to hurl my guts up whilst clutching my chest in pain at the same time. I'm ill. I look ill. It is commented on how ill I look. It is noted that I'm pretty smashed. Was I sent home? No, the client had to come first. Wonder what the outcome would have been had I said that I was using mj as my pain relief/relaxant of choice?

Mushu

9th April 2013, 18:07

fuck the internet. i reply later.

Don't feel you need to, the average IQ of kb doubles when you're not here

Fuck you stoners are funny, all precious and shit.

At least Alcoholics couldnt give a rats arse about trying to defend themselves.

They have little to defend and your legally allowed a drink, id be happy to conform to all the restrictions applied to alcohol if I was allowed to end my day with a couple of spots

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mashman

9th April 2013, 18:07

Fuck you stoners are funny, all precious and shit.

At least Alcoholics couldnt give a rats arse about trying to defend themselves.

True... the alkies would just lay you out.

nodrog

9th April 2013, 18:09

Alcoholics probably couldn't put a half-sensible sentence together to defend their habit. Just look at the Sidecar thread.

Don't feel you need to, the average IQ of kb doubles when you're not here

They have little to defend and your legally allowed a drink, id be happy to conform to all the restrictions applied to alcohol if I was allowed to end my day with a couple of spots

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True... the alkies would just lay you out.

I cant be arsed defending myself.

Mushu

9th April 2013, 18:12

Assume what you will. People will always find a way to argue any point to support their own beliefs and find any way to justify what they say and do. Works for both sides. I'm not knocking people who do drugs, legal or not, But seems unless I do drugs, I'm not allowed an opinion, I'm a sheep etc. Oh well.

I never said you weren't allowed an opinion, just don't force it on me. (my opinion is that alcohol is quite evil in the way it is overused and contributes to violence far to much, but I still defend your right to have a drink, I'll just leave when I feel you're over doing it)

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Katman

9th April 2013, 18:15

I'm a brain surgeon.

Madness

9th April 2013, 18:16

nodrog

9th April 2013, 18:24

I'm a brain surgeon.

you will go broke in here

scumdog

9th April 2013, 18:26

I have yet to see a racist comment from smokeu and .......?

I guess you've only read about three of his posts then....

mashman

9th April 2013, 18:27

I'm guessing you got a lift into work today?

You'd have to be fuckin nuts to drive with them things in your system. I did get a lift in.

Mushu

9th April 2013, 18:32

I guess you've only read about three of his posts then....

How about you do some reading and check out my next few posts after the one you quote, but, given your profession I won't hold my breath or expect you to get the point if you do read them.

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awayatc

9th April 2013, 18:36

you got to wonder why the f*ck you would be wanted at work in a state like that...........

Akzle

9th April 2013, 18:43

Don't feel you need to, the average IQ of kb doubles when you're not here

don't wallow in it too long mate, i was actually going to speak in favour of your trotters...

I'm a brain surgeon.

i'm a sir braingeon.

Edbear

9th April 2013, 18:46

fuck the internet. i reply later.

We'll wait.. :baby:

I'm a brain surgeon.

Sorry, you need a brain of your own first. :killingme

Mushu

9th April 2013, 18:57

don't wallow in it too long mate, i was actually going to speak in favour of your trotters...

I know you were, we've had this conversation before, still don't feel you'll have anything constructive to add

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scumdog

9th April 2013, 18:58

How about you do some reading and check out my next few posts after the one you quote, but, given your profession I won't hold my breath or expect you to get the point if you do read them.

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Why the fuck should I bother to check any of your posts dufus??

And hold your breath all you want - the oxygen depletion probably won't affect your thought process any...

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Genie

9th April 2013, 19:01

Madness

9th April 2013, 19:01

you got to wonder why the f*ck you would be wanted at work in a state like that...........

He's obviously talented at something.

mashman

9th April 2013, 19:06

you got to wonder why the f*ck you would be wanted at work in a state like that...........

If that's directed at me... I told them I'd be fine and the client was there. I mentioned to the client that I was a wee bit dolally and it's only painkillers after all.

Akzle

9th April 2013, 19:10

yes. believe in science. they held true that the earth revolved around the sun for a good half-millenia. but hell, that was a long time ago right? and fact is only fact as long as noone can prove you wrong, eh.

^that, and shit

awayatc

9th April 2013, 19:11

no not quite specificly directed as such... more just randomly slung wide....

bit like a haymaker,

sometimes you hit something,

or even somebody.....:rolleyes:

mashman

9th April 2013, 19:18

no not quite specificly directed as such... more just randomly slung wide....

bit like a haymaker,

sometimes you hit something,

or even somebody.....:rolleyes:

heh heh heh... you must be an alky

awayatc

9th April 2013, 19:19

parenting is serious business

Can't blame kids for expecting parents to take parenting serious

smoking dope is not serious,

makes one dopey.....

Should have used condom....

No kid deserves dopey parents.

F*ck em

Mushu

9th April 2013, 19:21

Why the fuck should I bother to check any of your posts dufus??

And hold your breath all you want - the oxygen depletion probably won't affect your thought process any...

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Atleast I'm thinking for myself I know it's frowned upon where you work but some of you boys do it (although rarely) although, I've read enough if your posts to know you're not the sort to think at all.

Charley Murphy once coined a phrase that describes you perfectly, 'high functioning retard.'

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Madness

9th April 2013, 19:23

Interesting comments and then there's some that are crap.
At the end of the day, this young woman was not impressed with what her parents did. We know nothing of their background but what I know is that everytime my mother found pot growing in my garden she promptly ripped it out, I'm thankful she never reported me, for she was well within her rights.
Smoking and growing pot is illegal in our country, whether one agrees with it or not that is the law. To be prosecuted is the risk that one takes, like speeding, stealing, drink driving, child abuse, violence, the list is endless, all are illegal and the consequneces are what one must face if one is caught.
If one doesn't wish to feel the long arm of the law, then one shouldn't break the law.

Thank you for your post. I would like to put to you that if people simply accepted the laws of the nation and never questioned them women in New Zealand would still not have the right to vote, retailers wouldn't be open on Sundays and pubs would close at 6pm. You might not give a flying razoo about any of that but the fact remains that some did and they challenged what was then the status quo. Laws of the land are unlike the laws of physics in that ultimately they are just words written on paper, by mere mortals who are part of society. Society changes over time as do peoples beliefs and accepted norms. Sorry to state the obvious but after reading your post I didn't think you'd mind. :niceone:

Ed's still coming to terms with the women voting thing too, no doubt.

Akzle

9th April 2013, 19:24

No kid deserves dopey parents.

F*ck em

i'd like to say that no parent deserves bitch kids. but some people are dicks. so... meh.

i'd still side with tha parents on this one.

awayatc

9th April 2013, 19:25

heh heh heh... you must be an alky

Just because I have the urge at times to hurt, maim or kill something....?

Akzle

9th April 2013, 19:27

Thank you for your post. I would like to put to you that if people simply accepted the laws of the nation and never questioned them women would still not have the right to vote, retailers wouldn't be open on Sundays and pubs would close at 6pm. You might not give a flying razoo about any of that but the fact remains that some did and they challenged what was then the status quo.

OI. you fucking moron! you've just shot a hole in our waka's hull.

women shouldn't be allowed to vote, shops should be shut on weekends and pubs should close at "6 pm".

...women voting. fucking rabblerabblerabble, rahrahrah. HURRMUPHF!

betcha if women couldn't vote dope would be legal.

Madness

9th April 2013, 19:29

mashman

9th April 2013, 19:33

Just because I have the urge at times to hurt, maim or kill something....?

I'm just using KB thread logic, nothing personal.

Edbear

9th April 2013, 19:39

I'm just using KB thread logic, nothing personal.

KB? Logic? Are you serious..?

Mushu

9th April 2013, 19:42

OI. you fucking moron! you've just shot a hole in our waka's hull.

women shouldn't be allowed to vote, shops should be shut on weekends and pubs should close at "6 pm".

...women voting. fucking rabblerabblerabble, rahrahrah. HURRMUPHF!

betcha if women couldn't vote dope would be legal.

I was with you today, right up until there, where you bought down the average intelligence, as predicted.

Women can have the vote, idiots should lose it

There may be something in pubs closing at 6 though

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mashman

9th April 2013, 19:48

KB? Logic? Are you serious..?

I'm always serious.

scumdog

9th April 2013, 19:58

Atleast I'm thinking for myself I know it's frowned upon where you work but some of you boys do it (although rarely) although, I've read enough if your posts to know you're not the sort to think at all.

Charley Murphy once coined a phrase that describes you perfectly, 'high functioning retard.'

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Waa-waa-fuckin' waa...

I win - your taxes pay this 'high functioning retard'.:niceone:

Whether I work or not!:clap::killingme

Sent from my tax-payer paid for i-pad.

Usarka

9th April 2013, 20:03

KB? Logic? Are you serious..?
Except for your posts of course Ed

I'm always serious.
Don't call me shirley

Madness

9th April 2013, 20:06

Sent from my tax-payer paid for i-pad.

Excellent! The new popo iPads have apparently raised popo productivity levels already.

Mushu

9th April 2013, 20:11

Waa-waa-fuckin' waa...

I win - your taxes pay this 'high functioning retard'.:niceone:

Whether I work or not!:clap::killingme

Sent from my tax-payer paid for i-pad.

Our tax money goes to all sorts of stupid crap, why not a stupid cunt.

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Edbear

9th April 2013, 20:18

Madness

9th April 2013, 20:20

Laava

9th April 2013, 20:25

Haha, a popopad! Something good comes from this thread after all.

Usarka

9th April 2013, 20:26

Madness

9th April 2013, 20:26

Haha, a popopad! Something good comes from this thread after all.

lol. Sounds like an incontinence product.

Edbear

9th April 2013, 20:27

And this post has relevance to the discussion being had?

Ha ha! Your (lack of) powers of observation follow you from thread to thread! :2thumbsup

scumdog

9th April 2013, 20:28

and shortly thereafter the thread is consigned to PD.

And not before time...

Madness

9th April 2013, 20:30

Ha ha! Your (lack of) powers of observation follow you from thread to thread! :2thumbsup

My powers of observation are capable enough to identify your hypocrisy and irrelevance from a mile away Ed, if you know what I mean.

Mushu

9th April 2013, 20:30

How the thread turns in the KB way. It is KB tradition that those without anything of relevance to say, degenerate the thread into a slanging match and shortly thereafter the thread is consigned to PD.

It's not entirely off topic to poke at scummy, he is among those enforcing this bullshit, as I said some do think for themselves, there are those that can overlook that stupid law, as surprising as it is when it happens.

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Fast Eddie

9th April 2013, 20:30

Quote from Django Unchained. Apparently it's what coons called horses way back when.
I liked that movie, the soundtrack was odd. I like the actor who freed Django, also played the Jew Hunter in the movie inglorious basterdz (or however they spelt it, with Bradolf Pittler)

Where did you get that from? That was not my post. :scratch:
Cats prefer chef

Fuck you, stoners are funny
With just a little bit of editing, you too can be a fan

Excellent! The new popo iPads have apparently raised popo productivity levels already.
Should see the kids classrooms at primary.. 12 ipads per class.. fookin hell, pretty sure we had 1 overhead projector per school that had to be wheeled from class to class. and the best app on it was when I drew a penis on a clear sheet and left it beaming up on the blackboard while the teacher was out of class

scumdog

9th April 2013, 20:33

he is among those enforcing this bullshit, as I said some do think for themselves, there are those that can overlook that stupid law, as surprising as it is when it happens.

Sent from my ass

I had a pedophile try to tell me something like that once too....

Genie

9th April 2013, 20:33

Thank you for your post. I would like to put to you that if people simply accepted the laws of the nation and never questioned them women in New Zealand would still not have the right to vote, retailers wouldn't be open on Sundays and pubs would close at 6pm. You might not give a flying razoo about any of that but the fact remains that some did and they challenged what was then the status quo. Laws of the land are unlike the laws of physics in that ultimately they are just words written on paper, by mere mortals who are part of society. Society changes over time as do peoples beliefs and accepted norms. Sorry to state the obvious but after reading your post I didn't think you'd mind. :niceone:

Ed's still coming to terms with the women voting thing too, no doubt.

Why thank you for pointing out the obvious to me, I sometimes miss it as I'm so narrowminded. You are indeed correct and all of those changes have been made, not by those that broke the law, more by those with the intelligence, education and gumption to work at making a change.
It is always good to question, I tell myself that every day, but, the law at the moment states that smoking/growing/selling pot is illegal. I used to think there was nothing really wrong with smoking pot, I used to smoke it and did so for many years. Since I ceased I came to realise that it is not the harmless drug I thought it once was. Amazing, how one can't see what's under one's nose, until one steps back.