Dobbed in weed-growing parents

[Madness]

Should see the kids classrooms at primary.. 12 ipads per class.. fookin hell, pretty sure we had 1 overhead projector per school that had to be wheeled from class to class. and the best app on it was when I drew a penis on a clear sheet and left it beaming up on the blackboard while the teacher was out of class

You've seen 57 Bankwood Road Hamilton on Google (satellite) Maps?. Zoom is your friend.

[Mushu]

I had a pedophile try to tell me something like that once too....

Smoking dope = touching kids
No wonder the police seem to have their heads up their own asses.

There is a difference, a huge one, try telling your superiors.

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[Mushu]

You've seen 57 Bankwood Road Hamilton on Google (satellite) Maps?. Zoom is your friend.

Looked it up on google maps, can't see anything perhaps I need google earth so I can look at older photos.

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[scumdog]

Smoking dope = touching kids
No wonder the police seem to have their heads up their own asses.

There is a difference, a huge one, try telling your superiors.

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No, YOU try and tell me how it went...

[Madness]

Why thank you for pointing out the obvious to me, I sometimes miss it as I'm so narrowminded. You are indeed correct and all of those changes have been made, not by those that broke the law, more by those with the intelligence, education and gumption to work at making a change.
It is always good to question, I tell myself that every day, but, the law at the moment states that smoking/growing/selling pot is illegal. I used to think there was nothing really wrong with smoking pot, I used to smoke it and did so for many years. Since I ceased I came to realise that it is not the harmless drug I thought it once was. Amazing, how one can't see what's under one's nose, until one steps back.

Being narrow-minded is very common amongst senior citizens. You're forgiven.

Those changes were not made by those who broke the law, you are correct. However, the people who broke those old laws (impossible in the case of women voting I'm assuming) were the ones who prompted discussion that ultimately lead to change. The ones who made the changes were the politicians of the time, not necessarily any more intelligent than those who broke the laws or had the gumption to question them.

Thanks again for sharing your personal experiences and opinions. It's a shame that you couldn't see what was under your own nose. Often overlooked is the fact that what works for one doesn't necessarily work for another. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but it's not very nice when one sides views aren't always based on actual knowledge or apparent solid reason and directly impede the other sides ability to choose for themselves.

[Mushu]

Why thank you for pointing out the obvious to me, I sometimes miss it as I'm so narrowminded. You are indeed correct and all of those changes have been made, not by those that broke the law, more by those with the intelligence, education and gumption to work at making a change.
It is always good to question, I tell myself that every day, but, the law at the moment states that smoking/growing/selling pot is illegal. I used to think there was nothing really wrong with smoking pot, I used to smoke it and did so for many years. Since I ceased I came to realise that it is not the harmless drug I thought it once was. Amazing, how one can't see what's under one's nose, until one steps back.

I'd like to point out once again
I currently don't smoke cannabis, but I'd like the option to use it for both medical and recreational purposes





No, YOU try and tell me how it went...

I would but I'd get more from the proverbial bashing of my head on a brick wall

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[Edbear]

I would but I'd get more from the proverbial bashing of my head on a brick wall

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That would explain a lot... :rolleyes:

[Madness]

That would explain a lot... :rolleyes:

Please do yourself a favour and try to treat this thread with some respect as the other posters enjoy rational and meaningful discussion if you know what I mean. Sound familiar?

[Madness]

Looked it up on google maps, can't see anything perhaps I need google earth so I can look at older photos.

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Try zooming out a little. I don't really give a fuck what you use to post here either, for what that's worth.

[Edbear]

Please do yourself a favour and try to treat this thread with some respect as the other posters enjoy rational and meaningful discussion if you know what I mean. Sound familiar?

:lol: :lol: :lol: if that is your idea of rational and meaningful discussion I rest my case!!! :killingme: :killingme:

[Madness]

:lol: :lol: :lol: if that is your idea of rational and meaningful discussion I rest my case!!! :killingme: :killingme:

Unlike the IYKWIM thread, very meaningful thread that one - I might have to frequent it more often.

[Edbear]

Unlike the IYKWIM thread, very meaningful thread that one - I might have to frequent it more often.

LoL! That thread never claimed to be either rational or meaningful! It's all about humour, something you seem to know very little about. :weird:

[Madness]

LoL! That thread never claimed to be either rational or meaningful! It's all about humour, something you seem to know very little about. :weird:

Is humour the same as humor? I know a lot about humor. It's extremely subjective, much like opinions on Cannabis use and ones ability to operate a motor vehicle whilst under the effects of a powerful narcotic.

I personally don't find a bunch of boring, predominantly old, farts posting a load of dribble (I believe you call it innuendo) funny. Each to their own though, eh Ed?

[Fast Eddie]

You've seen 57 Bankwood Road Hamilton on Google (satellite) Maps?. Zoom is your friend.

I zoomed in and out from street view and birds eye view.. couldn't spot anything myself... But I'm a bit slow

[Madness]

I'm a bit slow

I've read that.

[Edbear]

Is humour the same as humor? I know a lot about humor. It's extremely subjective, much like opinions on Cannabis use and ones ability to operate a motor vehicle whilst under the effects of a powerful narcotic.

I personally don't find a bunch of boring, predominantly old, farts posting a load of dribble (I believe you call it innuendo) funny. Each to their own though, eh Ed?

You are so sad you don't even know how sad you are. Are you sure you and Katman aren't related? I think I'll just ignore you too, you're not even funny.

[Madness]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :killingme: :killingme:


you're not even funny.

You seem to be a little inconsistent in your posts Ed, a bit hot & cold. Perhaps you should go have a nap, it might be the drugs?

[Fast Eddie]

I've read that.

heard it here first.

[Madness]

heard it here first.

Actually it was in the sidecar thread, some time ago.

[Fast Eddie]

Actually it was in the sidecar thread, some time ago.

oh those c*nts, always hassling me. F*cking sidecar riders..

[Edbear]

You seem to be a little inconsistent in your posts Ed, a bit hot & cold. Perhaps you should go have a nap, it might be the drugs?

One final comment on your posting the side effects of Tramadol. I don't suffer any of those effects in any amount. Not that it will make a jot of difference to your prejudice of course. Now shall I post your reply for you? :sleep:

[Madness]

One final comment on your posting the side effects of Tramadol. I don't suffer any of those effects in any amount. Not that it will make a jot of difference to your prejudice of course. Now shall I post your reply for you? :sleep:

Post what you like Ed, it's an internet forum. You're of the opinion that you're in full control of all of your faculties so what's stopping you? I do struggle to believe you don't suffer from constipation though, you're just so full of shit.

[PrincessBandit]

I'm finding it quite intriguing, but not overly surprising, that those who support and endorse the use of dak for whatever purposes they feel justifies it are the ones most vehemently arguing that those who don't support it are closed minded and somehow the weird ones in the universe.

I'm entitled to my opinion and appreciate that others have a different viewpoint. I don't appreciate my opinion being dismissed as described above simply because I don't follow the hippie crowd.

Put that in your spliff and smoke it.

[Madness]

I'm finding it quite intriguing, but not overly surprising, that those who support and endorse the use of dak for whatever purposes they feel justifies it are the ones most vehemently arguing that those who don't support it are closed minded and somehow the weird ones in the universe.

I'm entitled to my opinion and appreciate that others have a different viewpoint. I don't appreciate my opinion being dismissed as described above simply because I don't follow the hippie crowd.

Put that in your spliff and smoke it.

Can you please be more specific as to where you feel your personal opinion has been dismissed?

Spliffs are for poms too, by the way.

[Mushu]

I'm finding it quite intriguing, but not overly surprising, that those who support and endorse the use of dak for whatever purposes they feel justifies it are the ones most vehemently arguing that those who don't support it are closed minded and somehow the weird ones in the universe.

I'm entitled to my opinion and appreciate that others have a different viewpoint. I don't appreciate my opinion being dismissed as described above simply because I don't follow the hippie crowd.

Put that in your spliff and smoke it.

Because none of us are trying to force you to smoke weed but those with your opinion (the against cannabis camp) are forcing your beliefs on us by taking our dak under fear of prison, how would you feel if the government said motorcycles are dangerous therefore they are illegal, anyone caught riding one goes to jail?

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[Madness]

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Screened last night. Take from it what you will, I take from it that prohibition isn't working and the current laws have created a sub-culture that could benefit from education and simply bringing the issue out into the open. I've also formed the opinion that the popo interviewed is a cock, but that's just my opinion of course.

The Maori Party do have significant influence in Parliament so there's a good chance we may see positive action before too long. Ka pai.

[Fast Eddie]

speaking of native affairs..

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[Katman]

I'm finding it quite intriguing, but not overly surprising, that those who support and endorse the use of dak for whatever purposes they feel justifies it are the ones most vehemently arguing that those who don't support it are closed minded and somehow the weird ones in the universe.

I'm entitled to my opinion and appreciate that others have a different viewpoint. I don't appreciate my opinion being dismissed as described above simply because I don't follow the hippie crowd.

Put that in your spliff and smoke it.

Nobody's asking you to support it and I don't think anyone has suggested that by not supporting it you're somehow weird.

Are you suggesting that statements like "all stoners are losers" shows any degree of open mindedness though?

[blackdog]

@bosslady

I work in a kitchen. I enjoy a good toot with the owner of the establishment most nights before starting work.

The only person who may be harmed is the poor child that eats the finger I cut off into their salad.

Oh wait, I still have all my fingers.

[Akzle]

how has this not been PDd?

[PrincessBandit]

Nobody's asking you to support it and I don't think anyone has suggested that by not supporting it you're somehow weird.

Are you suggesting that statements like "all stoners are losers" shows any degree of open mindedness though?

Not at all. I'm just surprised at the (by way of extrapolation) a person - whom we know next to nothing about (we know 3 facts: female, 18yo, and a daughter) - is being torn to shreds here over an action that we have no way of knowing exactly what precipitated it.

The ensuing ranting and raving is directed at her actions of "narking on her parents" rather than a lack of support of weed growing/smoking/eating. This I am aware of. It's just curious that those of us who are not siding with the she's-a-fucking-nark-bitch-who-deserves-a-lifetime-of-(insert whatever fate one likes) definitely seem to be seen as the weirdos here by some. In hindsight I think I can live with that though; I've never been afraid to be seriously uncool or considered a sheep (rather be a sheep than one of the goats!)

[oneofsix]

Not at all. I'm just surprised at the (by way of extrapolation) a person - whom we know next to nothing about (we know 3 facts: female, 18yo, and a daughter) - is being torn to shreds here over an action that we have no way of knowing exactly what precipitated it.

The ensuing ranting and raving is directed at her actions of "narking on her parents" rather than a lack of support of weed growing/smoking/eating. This I am aware of. It's just curious that those of us who are not siding with the she's-a-fucking-nark-bitch-who-deserves-a-lifetime-of-(insert whatever fate one likes) definitely seem to be seen as the weirdos here by some. In hindsight I think I can live with that though; I've never been afraid to be seriously uncool or considered a sheep (rather be a sheep than one of the goats!)

So what you are saying Princess is that for the sake of 2 and only 2 plants that you would be happy that your kids (young adults), which you had given the unsupervised run of your property to with their friends are right to air your laundry in public rather than speak to you first? Even if she had destroyed the plants and spoken to her parents it would have been fine. There is so much to this and little of it to do with the weed itself, relatively harmless by evidence even though I don't and never will use. The main issue for me is the Stazi informant bit. If they had had a stack of weapons, a P lab even or were producing kiddie porn then that would change my opinion as those have potential for real uncontrolled harm, P labs tend to blow up after all.

[PrincessBandit]

So what you are saying Princess is that for the sake of 2 and only 2 plants that you would be happy that your kids (young adults), which you had given the unsupervised run of your property to with their friends are right to air your laundry in public rather than speak to you first? Even if she had destroyed the plants and spoken to her parents it would have been fine. There is so much to this and little of it to do with the weed itself, relatively harmless by evidence even though I don't and never will use. The main issue for me is the Stazi informant bit. If they had had a stack of weapons, a P lab even or were producing kiddie porn then that would change my opinion as those have potential for real uncontrolled harm, P labs tend to blow up after all.

I think this conversation is going to end up going in circles. We don't know all the facts. Maybe there have been more plants in the past. Maybe she hates her parents guts (for some other reason). Maybe maybe maybe maybe.

But hey, this is the kb kangaroo court - we like to shoot first, bury the dead, then ask questions later.

In answer to your question, in case you think I'm avoiding it: first of all it wouldn't happen because I don't use or grow; second if I'm indulging in something that regardless of my opinion of whether it's harmless/useful/none of anyone else's damned business what i do is unlawful then I do it if full knowledge that it could come back to bite me in the arse one day. I go about my business prepared to take the rap if it comes down to that.

[PrincessBandit]

Oh, and would I dob anyone in? Highly unlikely. If I thought for one moment though that anyone I knew was putting others at unreasonable risk or in mortal danger by their actions (in this instance of this particular thread being pissed out of their brain and driving or being toked to the eyeballs and operating a lethal weapon - just as random, pulled-out-of-the-air examples) then I would certainly reconsider my options.

[Genie]

Being narrow-minded is very common amongst senior citizens. You're forgiven.

Those changes were not made by those who broke the law, you are correct. However, the people who broke those old laws (impossible in the case of women voting I'm assuming) were the ones who prompted discussion that ultimately lead to change. The ones who made the changes were the politicians of the time, not necessarily any more intelligent than those who broke the laws or had the gumption to question them.

Thanks again for sharing your personal experiences and opinions. It's a shame that you couldn't see what was under your own nose. Often overlooked is the fact that what works for one doesn't necessarily work for another. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but it's not very nice when one sides views aren't always based on actual knowledge or apparent solid reason and directly impede the other sides ability to choose for themselves.

'tis a shame sarcasm cannot be read.

[oneofsix]

I so love that opinion as it states you will accept all laws regardless of what they are, even banning of motorcycles ( for your own safety of course). You be just the sort of person governments love and societies hate. Interesting that you fell for the trolling that has gone on on both sides of this thread, or are you just out for your morning troll. :lol:

This is no court, just an on line discussion. You don't have to shout just because people disagree with you, it doesn't make your opinion any less wrong just because you type it in large bold font.

Now where did I leave my coffee? :apint:

[PrincessBandit]

I so love that opinion as it states you will accept all laws regardless of what they are, even banning of motorcycles ( for your own safety of course). You be just the sort of person governments love and societies hate. Interesting that you fell for the trolling that has gone on on both sides of this thread, or are you just out for your morning troll. :lol:

This is no court, just an on line discussion. You don't have to shout just because people disagree with you, it doesn't make your opinion any less wrong just because you type it in large bold font.

Now where did I leave my coffee? :apint:

I'm going to be magnanimous and overlook the above post. You are forgiven.





Yes, I am indulging in a little winding up before heading off to work :msn-wink:

[Katman]

I think this conversation is going to end up going in circles. We don't know all the facts. Maybe there have been more plants in the past. Maybe she hates her parents guts (for some other reason). Maybe maybe maybe maybe.



I think you're making way too much of the original subject Dawn. This thread has moved on from there to a discussion (among other things - i.e. Ed's addiction) of the pros and cons of cannabis reform. Hey, plenty of other countries are considering it - why shouldn't we.

Just to wind you up a bit further though - yes, the girl in the OP could just as easily be a vindictive bitch who was told that she couldn't attend a party that Saturday night.

And further furthermore, there seems to be more people in this thread vilifying the parents by questioning their morals and their parenting skills and calling them criminals (simply because TPTB choose to call them criminals) than there are criticizing the daughter.

[blue rider]

how has this not been PDd?

cause we are all well spoken and civil, and this thread contains nudity!

[SMOKEU]

Why thank you for pointing out the obvious to me, I sometimes miss it as I'm so narrowminded. You are indeed correct and all of those changes have been made, not by those that broke the law, more by those with the intelligence, education and gumption to work at making a change.
It is always good to question, I tell myself that every day, but, the law at the moment states that smoking/growing/selling pot is illegal. I used to think there was nothing really wrong with smoking pot, I used to smoke it and did so for many years. Since I ceased I came to realise that it is not the harmless drug I thought it once was. Amazing, how one can't see what's under one's nose, until one steps back.

Being gay was illegal in NZ, too until some time in the 1980s I think it was. Who do you think pushed for legalizing faggotory? The gays themselves who were committing a crime to begin with.

[Banditbandit]

53 PAGES YET !!!!

Definitely silly hats time

http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/hw4ed44424.jpg

[bogan]

Being gay was illegal in NZ, too until some time in the 1980s I think it was. Who do you think pushed for legalizing faggotory? The gays themselves who were committing a crime to begin with.

And the whole women voting thing, jeez, it has been a downhill slope for a while now.

[SMOKEU]

And the whole women voting thing, jeez, it has been a downhill slope for a while now.

The age-old question still remains; what is the woman doing out of the kitchen in the first place?

[oneofsix]

The age-old question still remains; what is the woman doing out of the kitchen in the first place?

How do you know she was out of the kitchen? perhaps some careless male left his smartphone where she could reach it.

[SMOKEU]

How do you know she was out of the kitchen? perhaps some careless male left his smartphone where she could reach it.

Good point...

[scissorhands]

Cannabis plants 'juiced'
Last updated 13:00 09/04/2013


A Collingwood bartender caught growing 122 cannabis plants told police he made juice out of the cannabis leaves to provide relief from a medical condition.

Police raided Krishna Mason's Puramahoi property in Golden Bay after spotting plants growing during their annual aerial search.

Police found 122 plants on the property, which had a caravan and several out buildings.

The plants ranged in size from 20cm to 2 metres tall. They were reasonably healthy, police said.

Mason showed police a banana box containing 125 grams of cannabis.

He told police he had a medical condition, and the plants were for his use.

He said he stripped the leaves off the plant and put them in a juicer.

He could get 60ml of juice from an ounce of cannabis.

Yesterday in the Nelson District Court he admitted charges of possessing cannabis and cultivating cannabis.

His lawyer David Holloway said Mason accepted it was a large number of plants, but most of them were around the 20cm mark.

Mason was a Christchurch earthquake refugee. He could pay a fine as he had savings from work he had in Christchurch.

Judge McKegg fined Mason $800.

[oneofsix]

Cannabis plants 'juiced'
Last updated 13:00 09/04/2013


A Collingwood bartender caught growing 122 cannabis plants told police he made juice out of the cannabis leaves to provide relief from a medical condition.



How did he have the juice, over ice with a dash of vodka? :banana:

[Grubber]

Thank you for your post. I would like to put to you that if people simply accepted the laws of the nation and never questioned them women in New Zealand would still not have the right to vote, retailers wouldn't be open on Sundays and pubs would close at 6pm. You might not give a flying razoo about any of that but the fact remains that some did and they challenged what was then the status quo. Laws of the land are unlike the laws of physics in that ultimately they are just words written on paper, by mere mortals who are part of society. Society changes over time as do peoples beliefs and accepted norms. Sorry to state the obvious but after reading your post I didn't think you'd mind. :niceone:

Ed's still coming to terms with the women voting thing too, no doubt.

I'd just like to point out that none of those changes have much to do with pain old 'gettin high'

[imdying]

She might have been abused and this is actually less than her parents deserve :chase:

[oneofsix]

She might have been abused and this is actually less than her parents deserve :chase:

then wtf was she doing there with her friends? at 18 she is old enough to get F outta there and could do them on abuse charges, just the investigation would have screwed their live AND found the plants. Your logic - well there isn't any.

[ducatilover]

Being gay was illegal in NZ, too until some time in the 1980s I think it was. Who do you think pushed for legalizing faggotory? The gays themselves who were committing a crime to begin with.
Not sure if being gay and smoking weed are comparable? But I see the point.
I do imagine it will be legal, one day. But will it open up debate for making other things lega? I think it will. But it doesn't mean coke and shit will be at the dairy any time soon.

In the meantime, the Maori party and their fat fuck leader will ban smoking, because they feel like it.
Motorcycle registration will become too expensive to afford.
Health insurance will be privatised
And I'll be somewhere else :2thumbsup

[Grubber]

I was with you today, right up until there, where you bought down the average intelligence, as predicted.

Women can have the vote, idiots should lose it

There may be something in pubs closing at 6 though

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Actually you don't sound like a bad bastard after all.
This is why i don't take to much into what Akzle (the jerk) has to say.

[SMOKEU]

This is why i don't take to much into what Akzle (the jerk) has to say.

That's only because you know he's right and you have nothing to refute his claims with, other than childish personal attacks.

[Grubber]

yes. believe in science. they held true that the earth revolved around the sun for a good half-millenia. but hell, that was a long time ago right? and fact is only fact as long as noone can prove you wrong, eh.

have you considered that your lifestyle choices are the cause? have you considered that god just doesn't love you?


they do have key indicators for drug seeking behaviour...

Ed! you're wasting so much money! next time you need an anesthetist, come see me, i'll knock you the fuck out real quick, and it wont cost the innocent, cannabis somking taxpayer a damn thing...

what a fucking quitter

have you considered that your lifestyle is the cause? have you considered that jesus hates you? that you should be dead? who the fuck are you, ed, to argue or fight god's will?

things ending in -pam are bad for you. unless you're taking a long shot on a cop with an airgun.

how does sugar affect you?

paracetamol is bad. the average maximum dose is about 1200mcg.(that's one tray) it's the only analine analgesic left on the market, due to their inherent bad-ness for human consumption. take it with booze. it's good for you. (and causes more deaths per capita in 'MURICA, hoo-rah, than heroin.

sent from my rugged//
ahh fuckit, your'e a dick.


big call. way big call. but coming from as big-an idiot as yourself, who's the judge?

yes, your daughter re-enforces your belief in yourself and your prejudiced outlook. it would be a better indicator if she had the capacity or want, to express to you an opinion contrary to your own, or at least think for herself. give her my number, i'll put my penis in her.

if your kids aren't better than you, you've failed as a parent.

there isn't enough rep, apparently....

(...)

yeah. sure. the sad thing is that you probably believe that.

naai. as in fuck. as in slut. as in easy lay. geez.

i'm only racist against the human race.

i'm a vagitarian...

you blow who in management?

What an amziing amount of shit.
1st) my daughter is very well adjusted and does very well at lending her own opinion. The difference between you and her is, she is perfect and you are ....well you are you, enough said. I would back her against you any day, she would probably kill you for some of the comments you have made, i would help too!
2nd) if you ever make disgusting comments such as you have just done regarding my daughter again, trust me fella, one day we will meet!

Basically you have crossed the line you fuckin retard!

What a sorry excuse for a human you are!

[Grubber]

That's only because you know he's right and you have nothing to refute his claims with, other than childish personal attacks.

Hahahaha another funny fuckin yarpee!
Whatever fella!
Him right....what a joke!

[imdying]

then wtf was she doing there with her friends? at 18 she is old enough to get F outta there and could do them on abuse charges, just the investigation would have screwed their live AND found the plants. Your logic - well there isn't any.Yeah, life is a simple as you're making out :killingme

[PrincessBandit]

I think you're making way too much of the original subject Dawn. This thread has moved on from there to a discussion (among other things - i.e. Ed's addiction) of the pros and cons of cannabis reform. Hey, plenty of other countries are considering it - why shouldn't we.

Which only a limited number of people keep referring to. In addition, I personally have no issue at all with reform and whether NZ should go the same way as other countries on this topic. For NOW though, as the law currently stands I have no problem whatsoever standing by the comments I've made.

Just to wind you up a bit further though - yes, the girl in the OP could just as easily be a vindictive bitch who was told that she couldn't attend a party that Saturday night.

Absolutely. I don't think I dismissed that possibility out of hand. All I ever said was We Don't Know

And further furthermore, there seems to be more people in this thread vilifying the parents by questioning their morals and their parenting skills and calling them criminals (simply because TPTB choose to call them criminals) than there are criticizing the daughter.

I think there's enough vilifying to go round everyone here - share the love.


I hope the colours I've chosen for my replies can be read...

[Madness]

I'd just like to point out that none of those changes have much to do with pain old 'gettin high'

I disagree. Pubs opening beyond 6pm was as much about getting high as Cannabis law reform. Sharpen up Champ.

[Madness]

one day we will meet!

You might, but the question is will you actually realise it if and when it ever happens?

[Mushu]

Actually you don't sound like a bad bastard after all.

Does this mean I'm allowed in your house?
You know I was formerly a very heavy dope smoker, to the point of excess. Smoking or not my attitude hasn't changed at all, we should be challenging the government on every stupid point they make, or they'll take everything off us before long (have you paid rego on your bike lately)



What an amziing amount of shit.
1st) my daughter is very well adjusted and does very well at lending her own opinion. The difference between you and her is, she is perfect and you are ....well you are you, enough said. I would back her against you any day, she would probably kill you for some of the comments you have made, i would help too!
2nd) if you ever make disgusting comments such as you have just done regarding my daughter again, trust me fella, one day we will meet!

Basically you have crossed the line you fuckin retard!

What a sorry excuse for a human you are!

Akzl spouts a ton of shit, but there is a lot of truth in what he says, it's his delivery that makes him look like a raving idiot.
I would assume that akzls mother thinks hes quite 'perfect' and can say for sure that your daughter isn't, threatening to kill someone for comments on a forum isn't what I'd call well adjusted.

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[PrincessBandit]

I think maybe a few people need to step away from the keyboard and take a few deep breaths.

This topic is very enlightening in many ways and most posts have been kept within acceptable boundries of expression, however the more inflammatory personal attacks or insinuations need to be toned down a little.

[oneofsix]

I think maybe a few people need to step away from the keyboard and take a few deep breaths.

This topic is very enlightening in many ways and most posts have been kept within acceptable boundries of expression, however the more inflammatory personal attacks or insinuations need to be toned down a little.

hay not fair, playing the mod card when you are involved in the discussion. :lol:

[Madness]

I think maybe a few people need to step away from the keyboard and take a few deep breaths.

This topic is very enlightening in many ways and most posts have been kept within acceptable boundries of expression, however the more inflammatory personal attacks or insinuations need to be toned down a little.

I'd just like to say that IMO this thread has been moderated extremely well thus far, allowing the dicussion to flourish in the way that it has. I for one will be taking this warning onboard. Keep up the great work.

[mashman]

Akzl spouts a ton of shit, but there is a lot of truth in what he says, it's his delivery that makes him look like a raving idiot.

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Funny... coz his delivery is your problem, not the other way around. After all, you're the one translating it the way YOU choose to.

Sent from the couch eating Doritos and drowning in the glow of a Tramadol rush

[PrincessBandit]

hay not fair, playing the mod card when you are involved in the discussion. :lol:

In know, but I'd be ignored-ed otherwise! :crybaby:

[bogan]

I think maybe a few people need to step away from the keyboard and take a few deep breaths.

Of what, fresh air or a green haze?

[SMOKEU]

What an amziing amount of shit.
1st) my daughter is very well adjusted and does very well at lending her own opinion. The difference between you and her is, she is perfect and you are ....well you are you, enough said. I would back her against you any day, she would probably kill you for some of the comments you have made, i would help too!
2nd) if you ever make disgusting comments such as you have just done regarding my daughter again, trust me fella, one day we will meet!

Basically you have crossed the line you fuckin retard!

What a sorry excuse for a human you are!

So do you really think that threatening and belittling people online makes you a tough guy? You're nothing more than a pathetic keyboard warrior who throws a tantrum when you don't get your own way. Whining on like an immature little child only reinforces the fact to myself and everyone else reading this thread that you have the intelligence akin to that of a baked potato.

PS. Post up some pics of your daughter, and give us her phone number.


Hahahaha another funny fuckin yarpee!
Whatever fella!
Him right....what a joke!

I rest my case.

You have nothing constructive to say, so now you're wanking on about my heritage (not that I find it the least bit insulting, it's amusing more than anything).

[nodrog]

I'd just like to say that IMO this thread has been moderated extremely well thus far, allowing the dicussion to flourish in the way that it has. I for one will be taking this warning onboard. Keep up the great work.

What a brown nose.

[Edbear]

The Trolls are strong in this thread, or simply don't know when the horse has died... :zzzz:

[Mushu]

I think maybe a few people need to step away from the keyboard and take a few deep breaths.

This topic is very enlightening in many ways and most posts have been kept within acceptable boundries of expression, however the more inflammatory personal attacks or insinuations need to be toned down a little.

Whilst I have "slung some shit" I've tried to keep it on topic as much as I can (although as I see it the topic has evolved from the OP to a debate on drug reform) it's hard to say what would get a thread to PD, on one hand there has been everything from assaults on peoples character to full on keyboard warrior threats. On the other hand the discussion does tend to revert back to the point often. I'd be sorry to see this thread die in PD as it has been very entertaining, but it's the threats and character assassination that makes it fun. It's not like there's anything to be gained here, convincing people that I have the right to decide what I put into my body here is not going to affect any change in the laws in this country.

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[Banditbandit]

In know, but I'd be ignored-ed otherwise! :crybaby:

How could we ignore someone with such attractive assets as ... err your bike ...???

[Mushu]

Funny... coz his delivery is your problem, not the other way around. After all, you're the one translating it the way YOU choose to.

Sent from the couch eating Doritos and drowning in the glow of a Tramadol rush

Just because I agree with him on a lot of issues doesn't mean I totally agree with everything he says, he does tend to twist facts and just rave, I've had this decision with him before and despite having very similar beliefs it turned onto an argument that I chose to just walk away from.

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[nodrog]

There was a horse? What page is that on? Is it a good horse or a dumb horse? I dont care much for horses, or maori tv, but there was a documentary about dolphins on lastnight. Since it contained no maori talk or horses i watched it. I imagine the japs dont like horses either, but since they have had quite bad luck and never caught a horse in their nets, they just take it out on the dolphins.

Its exactly like domestic violence when the netball is on.

[Madness]

I'm actually tempted to quit my (well paying, demanding) job so I can afford this the thread the attention I feel it truly deserves. Ed, will you pay my internet bill if I do this?

[Edbear]

There was a horse? What page is that on? Is it a good horse or a dumb horse? I dont care much for horses, or maori tv, but there was a documentary about dolphins on lastnight. Since it contained no maori talk or horses i watched it. I imagine the japs dont like horses either, but since they have had quite bad luck and never caught a horse in their nets, they just take it out on the dolphins.

Its exactly like domestic violence when the netball is on.

The horse died a few pages back but some keep flogging it. The personal attacks just get lame after a while, especially without any humour involved. :wait:

[Katman]

There was a horse?

No, Ed's just hallucinating again.

[Mushu]

The horse died a few pages back but some keep flogging it. The personal attacks just get lame after a while, especially without any humour involved. :wait:

I notice you're still here too, but please don't leave. Without your hypocrite point of view and Grubbers loose grasp on reality this thread would have been nothing

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[Banditbandit]

I notice you're still here too, but please don't leave. Without your hypocrite point of view and Grubbers loose grasp on reality this thread would have been nothing

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Yeah - it would . It would have pretentious posers who feel we need to know that you are using a co-dependency device called an XT535 which seems to run something called a Tapatalk 2 ... (Is that like a repeat conversation in a Spanish bar selling snacks?)

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[mashman]

Just because I agree with him on a lot of issues doesn't mean I totally agree with everything he says, he does tend to twist facts and just rave, I've had this decision with him before and despite having very similar beliefs it turned onto an argument that I chose to just walk away from.

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I was merely pointing out that your highlighting his choice of delivery as "unwarranted", was your issue and not his. Bit like being sent home from school because your hair is below your collar or being forced to wear a shirt and tie at a meeting in that does it really give the person who has the long hair and no shirt and tie any more or less credibility. The delivery shouldn't matter.

[Edbear]

I was merely pointing out that your highlighting his choice of delivery as "unwarranted", was your issue and not his. Bit like being sent home from school because your hair is below your collar or being forced to wear a shirt and tie at a meeting in that does it really give the person who has the long hair and no shirt and tie any more or less credibility. The delivery shouldn't matter.

Hey, KB is all about shooting the messenger, doncha know..? :rolleyes:

[Mushu]

I was merely pointing out that your highlighting his choice of delivery as "unwarranted", was your issue and not his. Bit like being sent home from school because your hair is below your collar or being forced to wear a shirt and tie at a meeting in that does it really give the person who has the long hair and no shirt and tie any more or less credibility. The delivery shouldn't matter.

I agree with akzl often but don't like him at all simply because of the way he puts his point across, I feel I am entitled to that opinion as he is entitled to put his across in whatever way he chooses. By the way, I have long hair and don't own a tie.

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[Mushu]

Yeah - it would . It would have pretentious posers who feel we need to know that you are using a co-dependency device called an XT535 which seems to run something called a Tapatalk 2 ... (Is that like a repeat conversation in a Spanish bar selling snacks?)

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I'm also entitled to wind up the idiots by simply refusing too delete the standard sig on my phone.

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[mashman]

Hey, KB is all about shooting the messenger, doncha know..? :rolleyes:

People discarding opinion based on how it's delivered, which Mushu didn't do (just alluded to it), is a pet peeve and generally un KB like behaviour.

[Madness]

People discarding opinion based on how it's delivered, which Mushu didn't do (just alluded to it), is a pet peeve and generally un KB like behaviour.

Then there's those who post with nothing to comment on at all except for the delivery itself. We can't all be beige :motu:

[mashman]

I agree with akzl often but don't like him at all simply because of the way he puts his point across, I feel I am entitled to that opinion as he is entitled to put his across in whatever way he chooses. By the way, I have long hair and don't own a tie.

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Shame his language offends you, but yup, you are welcome to your opinion. Ooooo you are a rebel.

[mashman]

Then there's those who post with nothing to comment on at all except for the delivery itself. We can't all be beige :motu:

You can be, you just choose not to :tugger:

[Mushu]

People discarding opinion based on how it's delivered, which Mushu didn't do (just alluded to it), is a pet peeve and generally un KB like behaviour.

I wouldn't discard his opinion, I even enjoy the opinions that challenge my own, in fact I was saying that he makes a lot of good points, I just don't agree with his delivery, I hold the same opinion of Katman.

Akzls language doesn't offend me, it just seems like his arguments get lost in a tirade of abuse.

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[Madness]

You can be, you just choose not to :tugger:

Free choice as an individual? Wash yout virtual mouth out (and then your keyboard) ;)

[Fast Eddie]

Being gay was illegal in NZ, too until some time in the 1980s I think it was. Who do you think pushed for legalizing faggotory? The gays themselves who were committing a crime to begin with.
haha I like that..


And the whole women voting thing, jeez, it has been a downhill slope for a while now.
haha, this reminded me of the 2011 election when after 15 minutes in a line waiting to vote, one guy throws up his hands shouts out "fuck this I've got salmon in the car" and storms out.


I'd just like to point out..
no..


Not sure if being gay and smoking weed are comparable? But I see the point.
Well smoking cigarettes and being gay certainly goes hand n hand since both groups spend most of their time trying to bum a fag


Sharpen up Champ.
There's not enough Lift Plus in the world to sharpen him up..

[mashman]

I wouldn't discard his opinion, I even enjoy the opinions that challenge my own, in fact I was saying that he makes a lot of good points, I just don't agree with his delivery, I hold the same opinion of Katman.

Akzls language doesn't offend me, it just seems like his arguments get lost in a tirade of abuse.

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I know. I posted as much above, but to Ed.

[mashman]

Free choice as an individual? Wash yout virtual mouth out (and then your keyboard) ;)

You're a cunt aren't you? :D

[Madness]

You're a cunt aren't you? :D

Well my mother used to call me that & very few people have known be better than she did so I'm going to have to say yes. Fuck me.

[Katman]

I just don't agree with his delivery, I hold the same opinion of Katman.


You're new here, aren't you?

[mashman]

Well my mother used to call me that & very few people have known be better than she did so I'm going to have to say yes. Fuck me.

God I hope that second sentence isn't an invitation. I like your manner but dunno if I'm ready to get that close to ya.

[PrincessBandit]

You're new here, aren't you?

What gives him away? :lol:

[Mushu]

You're new here, aren't you?

Nope, been here for a while, even been on the receiving end of your bullshit, you may be a cunt but in most cases I agree with you.

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[SMOKEU]

I'm still waiting for those pics of your daughter, Grubber.

[blackdog]

I'm still waiting for those pics of your daughter, Grubber.

I'd give you a description Smokey, but I've never met her.

(Contrary to Grubber's imagination)

[scissorhands]

http://static.stuff.co.nz/1303104516/371/4902371.jpg

Supervision for man who grew cannabis
05:00 09/04/2013

A Washdyke timberyard worker has been sentenced to six months' supervision after 20 cannabis plants were discovered at his home.

Jason Troy Sadler, 34, pleaded guilty yesterday in the Timaru District Court to cultivating cannabis.

Police visited Sadler's Washdyke property on February 26. He admitted he had been growing cannabis and in the garage a large tent was discovered with 20 cannabis plants, between 30cm to 40cm high, under two heat lamps.

His lawyer said Sadler had a cannabis addiction and would like to address that. Previous counselling had failed because he was deaf and had no interpreter and had not been able to call to make appointments.

Judge Joanna Maze noted the charge had not been laid indictably as the plants were for Sadler's own use and not to be sold. The plants were well short of harvest.

[_Gina_]

You're a cunt aren't you? :D
I am all cunt no orgasm :devil2:

[scissorhands]

http://www.legalhighs.co.nz/synthetic-cannabis/legal-highs-users-showing-up-in-emergency-departments/2013

Legal Highs users showing up in Emergency Departments

Written by Legal Highs NZ on April 5, 2013. Posted in Legal Highs, Synthetic Cannabis, Synthetic Cannabis News

Users that are concerned that they have overdosed on “Legal highs” are starting to become more and more prevalent in emergency departments.

Although alcohol is still by far the most serious problem according to Nelson Specialist Dr Tom Jerram.

Legal Highs are apparently becoming more problematic than illicit drugs say some frontline emergency medics.

There has been an increase in people going to the Nelson Hospital emergency department with symptoms brought on by synthetic cannabis products according to Dr Jerram. He was apparently concerned by the “legal anomaly” that allowed these drugs to be sold at dairies and other accessible outlets.

“It’s becoming more and more regular” Dr Jerram said, “In the last week I can think of five or six cases that I have been involved with that presented to ED as a direct result of these legal herbal highs, mostly synthetic marijuana”.

Nelson St John team leader Gary Tobin agreed with Dr Jerram and said paramedics had been treating more patients who had adverse reactions to, or had taken too many tokes of a herbal high.

The demographic is apparently young adults whom are abusing and not just ‘using’ the legal highs.

Dr Jerram said patients showed symptoms ranging from general agitation, to vomiting and altered behaviour. To his knowledge one patient had been admitted to intensive care.

Paramedics had seen patients become hyper-excited, psychotic or emotional, or show other mental disturbances, Mr Tobin said.

Dr Jerram said doctors were seeing more and more “cannabis hyperemesis” at the hospital – a condition causing repeated, protracted vomiting that affected heavy cannabis users after they quit smoking. “It took people a long time to realise that it was generally heavy marijuana users who got this. It seems like people who use the synthetic cannabis get a similar thing.”

Dr Jerram claims that legal highs posed a bigger problem for Nelson than illicit drugs such as cannabis or even methamphetamine, which he said was not all that common. “Compared with the amount of problems we see from marijuana, which is actually pretty minimal, we see a lot more with these legal highs,” he said.

One industry insider says that this is clearly because people are not comfortable going to hospital when they have issues stemming from illicit drug use, as they are concerned about the repercussions, so Dr Jerrams observation is somewhat accurate but doesn’t really show the full picture.

“I think alcohol still causes far and away most of our problems. But, in Nelson anyway, the legal highs would be significantly more of a problem than illicit drugs.” says Dr Jerram.

That was both because they were more readily available and more people seemed to be using synthetic drugs, some thinking it was a good way to quit illicit substances.

Mr Tobin said St John’s staff were concerned about the trend too, noting that most cases of drug abuse are never seen by medical professionals.

“If we are getting called to a few there will be a hell of a lot more we don’t see, people who self present, or whose friends or family take them up to A and E, or people who are just cared for at home or in the community by their friends until they recover.”

Paramedics were specialists in recognising and dealing with symptoms rather than attributing symptoms to a cause, he said. “It’s not so much having an antidote for a herbal high, it’s seeing somebody who is in distress and doing what you can to keep them safe until they get better.”

Generally the main issues seem to be when people are abusing the products, consuming too much in one sitting or mixing with large amounts of alcohol.



Advice – What do to if you have an over dose on synthetic cannabis or legal highs?

Stay calm
Focus on your breathing and try to relax, think of something happy
Go for a small walk, spend some time with a pet or go lie down
Remember that the effects will wear off within 20 minutes and continue to drop off for up to 45 – 60 minutes
Consume a sugary or caffeinated drink or something to eat, this can help move the cannabinoids out your system
Relaxing teas, chamomile, peppermint, green tea or a milk drink can help relax you
Sometimes an alcoholic beverage may help lower anxiety, but is not recommended to consume heavy amounts of both
Anti-anxiety medication such as benzodiazepines can help in severe cases

[scissorhands]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/nelson-mail/news/8508926/Medics-slam-legal-highs


Medics slam 'legal highs'
JAMES GREENLAND
Last updated 13:00 04/04/2013

"Legal highs" have become more problematic than illicit drugs, say frontline emergency medics.

More people are going to the Nelson Hospital emergency department with symptoms brought on by synthetic cannabis products, specialist Tom Jerram said. He was concerned by the "legal anomaly" that allowed drugs to be sold at dairies and other accessible outlets.

"Working in the emergency department you are almost sort of a canary in a coalmine.

"You get an idea of what's going on and trends, and we are seeing more and more problems with young people who use these [synthetic marijuana products].

"It's becoming more and more regular. In the last week I can think of five or six cases that I have been involved with that have presented to ED as a direct result of these legal herbal highs, mostly synthetic marijuana," Dr Jerram said.

Synthetic drug analogues or "legal highs" have been under scrutiny this week after a Nelson user was admitted to intensive care and concerns were raised about dairies selling them to young people.

Nelson St John team leader Gary Tobin agreed with Dr Jerram and said paramedics had been treating more patients who had adverse reactions to, or taken too many tokes of, a herbal high.

Mr Tobin said he conducted a straw poll of six paramedics and all but one had been to a job on their last shift "where a major contributing factor has been the use of herbal highs like Kronic or K2".

He was unsure whether St John treated more males or females for legal high symptoms, but said "the demographic is certainly teenagers and young adults, from 14 up to 22, that sort of range".

He said legal highs were catching up on alcohol, which was still the most common cause of substance abuse-related callouts for ambulance staff.

Dr Jerram had noticed no obvious demographic of legal high abusers turning up at Nelson Hospital.

He said patients showed symptoms ranging from general agitation, to vomiting and altered behaviour. To his knowledge one patient had been admitted to intensive care.

Paramedics had seen patients become hyper-excited, psychotic or emotional, or show other mental disturbances, Mr Tobin said.

"Hyper ventilation is quite common. We have had episodes where they have had convulsions, brief episodes of unconsciousness or seizures, nervous twitching."

Dr Jerram said doctors were seeing more and more "cannabis hyperemesis" at the hospital - a condition causing repeated, protracted vomiting that affected heavy cannabis users after they quit smoking. "It took people a long time to realise that it was generally heavy marijuana users who got this. It seems like people who use the synthetic cannabis get a similar thing."

Dr Jerram said legal highs posed a bigger problem for Nelson than illicit drugs such as cannabis, or even methamphetamine, which he said was not all that common. "Compared with the amount of problems we see from marijuana, which is actually pretty minimal, we see a lot more with these legal highs," he said.

"I think alcohol still causes far and away most of our problems. But, in Nelson anyway, the legal highs would be significantly more of a problem than illicit drugs."

That was both because they were more readily available and more people seemed to be using synthetic drugs, some thinking it was a good way to quit illicit substances.

"As a healthcare professional and as a parent it really worries me," Dr Jerram said.

Mr Tobin said St John's staff were concerned about the trend too, noting that most cases of drug abuse are never seen by medical professionals.

"If we are getting called to a few there will be a hell of a lot more we don't see, people who self present, or whose friends or family take them up to A and E, or people who are just cared for at home or in the community by their friends until they recover."

Paramedics were specialists in recognising and dealing with symptoms rather than attributing symptoms to a cause, he said. "It's not so much having an antidote for a herbal high, it's seeing somebody who is in distress and doing what you can to keep them safe until they get better."

[Edbear]

Just proves it is all about availability. If dope was as readily available as Alcohol and the "legal highs" it would be the same issue. As I said a long time and many pages ago, for every person who exercises restraint and self control there are a million others who don't. This is why I don't support the legalisation of Cannabis.

[nodrog]

Bring back the horse!

My little pony, i love my little pony.

Brrrrregh brrrregh.

Giddy up.

[Mushu]

Just proves it is all about availability. If dope was as readily available as Alcohol and the "legal highs" it would be the same issue. As I said a long time and many pages ago, for every person who exercises restraint and self control there are a million others who don't. This is why I don't support the legalisation of Cannabis.

Or maybe its to do with people treating unsafe, untested legal drugs in the same fashion as tested and well known marijuana, the places where it is legal have not seen these problems, also marijuana is quite available if you look in the right places and is quite prevalent (atleast 75% of those I know under 40 years old use it, even occasionally)

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[Banditbandit]

I'm also entitled to wind up the idiots by simply refusing too delete the standard sig on my phone.

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And that is exactly why you will always be a pretentious poser ..

[mashman]

Just proves it is all about availability. If dope was as readily available as Alcohol and the "legal highs" it would be the same issue. As I said a long time and many pages ago, for every person who exercises restraint and self control there are a million others who don't. This is why I don't support the legalisation of Cannabis.

If you can't stop people using legislation and you can't afford to police and treat those who "use" (irrespective of usage), then you're going to have to change something. As the people won't change, freedom of choice n all that, then I suggest the next step is to move towards collecting money to police and treat as well as educating people and potentially keeping them away from more harmful substance. Current policy hasn't worked. Let's try something a little less repressive given its widespread use. Let's do a Portugal, well one better, and deal with it instead of sweeping it underground.

[mashman]

I am all cunt no orgasm :devil2:

Need a hand with that?

[Edbear]

Or maybe its to do with people treating unsafe, untested legal drugs in the same fashion as tested and well known marijuana, the places where it is legal have not seen these problems, also marijuana is quite available if you look in the right places and is quite prevalent (atleast 75% of those I know under 40 years old use it, even occasionally)

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No they have the same issue with alcohol as well. Cannabis is well tested and well known, yes, and it's effects are also well known and it is not an innocuous, harmless drug as much as you would like to claim it is.

[Edbear]

If you can't stop people using legislation and you can't afford to police and treat those who "use" (irrespective of usage), then you're going to have to change something. As the people won't change, freedom of choice n all that, then I suggest the next step is to move towards collecting money to police and treat as well as educating people and potentially keeping them away from more harmful substance. Current policy hasn't worked. Let's try something a little less repressive given its widespread use. Let's do a Portugal, well one better, and deal with it instead of sweeping it underground.

What makes you think it will work any better than it does with alcohol abuse? Millions of dollars are spent trying to combat alcohol related problems, including raising taxes on it and that doesn't seem to be doing a lot.

[SMOKEU]

If dope was as readily available as Alcohol and the "legal highs" it would be the same issue.

Synthetic cannabis products commonly available in NZ generally affect the body and mind in a much different way than normal weed. I have witnessed several dope smokers who can handle a few tokes of pot just fine, but once they are under the influence of these synthetic cannabis products there is a huge difference in their behaviour compared to smoking normal weed.

Many of these synthetic cannabis products are dangerous and personally I don't smoke that crap since I have no idea what's in it or where it comes from (other than a factory somewhere in China).


Cannabis is well tested and well known, yes, and it's effects are also well known and it is not an innocuous, harmless drug as much as you would like to claim it is.

Cannabis is harmless when you compare it to many "drugs" that are readily available in supermarkets. Try overdosing on nutmeg or poppy seed tea.

[Madness]

Time for a nap yet Ed?, if you know what I mean.

[Mushu]

Time for a nap yet Ed?, if you know what I mean.

Ed doesn't need a nap, he's all hoped up on painkillers and hypocracy again

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[Banditbandit]

Need a hand with that?


"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to mashman again."

[Mushu]

What makes you think it will work any better than it does with alcohol abuse? Millions of dollars are spent trying to combat alcohol related problems, including raising taxes on it and that doesn't seem to be doing a lot.

nobody ever said weed doesn't have an effect, and we'll even agree that it can lead to problems like cancer, but do some research and find out what happens when you make alcohol illegal, when somethings illegal it can't be controlled, taxed or subject to standardization.

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[Katman]

Just proves it is all about availability. If dope was as readily available as Alcohol and the "legal highs" it would be the same issue. As I said a long time and many pages ago, for every person who exercises restraint and self control there are a million others who don't. This is why I don't support the legalisation of Cannabis.

It most certainly is readily available Ed.

I'd hazard a guess that if it was not a criminal offense to use cannabis there would be virtually no market for the 'legal highs' that are so prevalent (and are causing harm that won't be fully known about for some time yet to come).

And no-one is asking for the legalisation of cannabis. As far as I'm aware, all that's being called for is the decriminalisation of it.

[Madness]

And no-one is asking for the legalisation of cannabis. As far as I'm aware, all that's being called for is the decriminalisation of it.

Please don't ask Ed to understand the complex differences between legalisation & decriminalisation, you know his faculties are somewhat impeded.

[_Gina_]

Need a hand with that?

And we have a taker...:lol:

[blackdog]

And we have a taker...:lol:

And here was me thinking he was a giver.

[mashman]

What makes you think it will work any better than it does with alcohol abuse? Millions of dollars are spent trying to combat alcohol related problems, including raising taxes on it and that doesn't seem to be doing a lot.

You can always threaten to take the "right" away again. Perhaps there will be less who will abuse it, in fact there may be more who turn to mj and away from booze to get their high. Something that I reckon TPTB are more than aware of and why we have the status quo. And what alcohol prevention methods are there Ed? Pamphlets? Advertising? You are assuming that there will be an orgy of drug taking if it is made legal. I don't think that will be the case. I could be wrong, but evidence from Portugal and given the fact that mj is readily available should you want it would lead me to believe that it won't be anywhere near as bad. If you're willing to waste millions of $ of locking people up for the offences, policing the offences and dealing with the offences in hospital even though it's illegal. Then why not waste million of $ dealing with the issues and not turning people into criminals at the same time. At some point we're going to have to give people their personal responsibility back from those who just say that we can't. I think mj is a perfect candidate for a start.

[mashman]

And here was me thinking he was a giver.

Dammit ya beat me to it.

[_Gina_]

Dammit ya beat me to it.
Are you as hot as your bike? Can you stunt at all? Cause maybe I do need a hand lol

[blackdog]

Are you as hot as your bike? Can you stunt at all? Cause maybe I do need a hand lol

He is hotter. Full of cunning stunts and has hands. What more could you ask for?

[Banditbandit]

But I do believe he is "married with children" ...

[mashman]

Are you as hot as your bike? Can you stunt at all? Cause maybe I do need a hand lol

As my orifice bitch says...


He is hotter. Full of cunning stunts and has hands. What more could you ask for?

although you sound a little demanding and high maintenance, not sure you deserve me

[Mushu]

It most certainly is readily available Ed.

I'd hazard a guess that if it was not a criminal offense to use cannabis there would be virtually no market for the 'legal highs' that are so prevalent (and are causing harm that won't be fully known about for some time yet to come).

And no-one is asking for the legalisation of cannabis. As far as I'm aware, all that's being called for is the decriminalisation of it.

Decriminalization would be preferable to the current system, but really doesn't solve much, just removes the threat of jail.
I'd prefer to see full legalization and all the things that go along with it, education, better testing procedures, major reduction of the black market including making it harder for minors to aquire and reduction in gang incomes and the violent crime associated with it, and a huge new source of tax for the government.

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[Edbear]

You can always threaten to take the "right" away again. Perhaps there will be less who will abuse it, in fact there may be more who turn to mj and away from booze to get their high. Something that I reckon TPTB are more than aware of and why we have the status quo. And what alcohol prevention methods are there Ed? Pamphlets? Advertising? You are assuming that there will be an orgy of drug taking if it is made legal. I don't think that will be the case. I could be wrong, but evidence from Portugal and given the fact that mj is readily available should you want it would lead me to believe that it won't be anywhere near as bad. If you're willing to waste millions of $ of locking people up for the offences, policing the offences and dealing with the offences in hospital even though it's illegal. Then why not waste million of $ dealing with the issues and not turning people into criminals at the same time. At some point we're going to have to give people their personal responsibility back from those who just say that we can't. I think mj is a perfect candidate for a start.

My point was specifically that the great unwashed couldn't care less about legislation and many will abuse whatever is available, including glue, solvents, alcohol, drugs- legal or not, and if MJ was freely available, that too.

While current laws are not being utilised and advertising isn't working for these people, why add to the mix? Contrary to some nuts here, Cannabis is hardly readily available as is alcohol and legal highs.

The ONLY thing that works is early education to change attitudes and when combined with severe and consistent penalties, behaviour. This covers all areas of concern including cell phone use in cars, as another example.

[mashman]

But I do believe he is "married with children" ...

I'm thinking I should be allowed to conform to Brehon Law. I'll run it past the wife first of course.

[blackdog]

although you sound a little demanding and high maintenance, not sure you deserve me

Get back in the kitchen and brew me some beer bitch.

[Genie]

Not much changes round here, does it?

Thread starts with an interesting topic to discuss and then before you know it, the nasties are out and the shit starts flying.

Far too many cunts on here.

... fancy calling oneself a cunt, fancy calling anybody a cunt.

Most of you deserve a severe spanking.

[Edbear]

I'm thinking I should be allowed to conform to Brehon Law. I'll run it past the wife first of course.

Have to wait until February, too.

[Maha]

The ONLY thing that works is early education to change attitudes and when combined with severe and consistent penalties, behaviour.

Very similar to Katmans stance and delivery on an unrelated matter...oh the irony in that!

[Banditbandit]

I'm thinking I should be allowed to conform to Brehon Law. I'll run it past the wife first of course.

What ??? As clergy you should be exempt from paying your share of your family's eraic payments ???

[_Gina_]

although you sound a little demanding and high maintenance, not sure you deserve me
I am responsible though not sensible...it has been said that I am "dangerous" and an enigma.

Oh and did I mention full of my own self importance?

But not high maintenance, just hard to keep up for most mere males.

[Edbear]

Not much changes round here, does it?

Thread starts with an interesting topic to discuss and then before you know it, the nasties are out and the shit starts flying.

Far too many cunts on here.

... fancy calling oneself a cunt, fancy calling anybody a cunt.

Most of you deserve a severe spanking.

As I keep telling Mrs. Bear... :rolleyes:

[Madness]

Decriminalization would be preferable to the current system, but really doesn't solve much, just removes the threat of jail.
I'd prefer to see full legalization and all the things that go along with it, education, better testing procedures, major reduction of the black market including making it harder for minors to aquire and reduction in gang incomes and the violent crime associated with it, and a huge new source of tax for the government.

Decriminisation is the logical first step, just as Civil Unions were the first step towards equality and fairness for Homosexuals. There are still a lot of Kiwis, predominantly from Ed & Grubbers generation that have been rounded up like sheep into believing what they do and it will take a long time for that to wash out. Decriminalisation with strict limits for age/posession, better testing technology to test for actual impairment and quality education and awareness right through our society. It's a big job but it's gotta be better than creating 30,000 criminals each year. The cost could be offset somewhat by saving all the money currently being wasted from pops through to courts and prisons.

The liquor companies stand to lose and the legal highs industry would disappear. Foodstuffs & Progressive might be able to offset their losses in liquor with buds at the checkout. :niceone:

[Banditbandit]

Not much changes round here, does it?

Thread starts with an interesting topic to discuss and then before you know it, the nasties are out and the shit starts flying.

Far too many cunts on here.

... fancy calling oneself a cunt, fancy calling anybody a cunt.

Most of you deserve a severe spanking.


60 pages of bullshit - it was getting boring ... so the thread got hi-jacked :lol:

[Edbear]

Very similar to Katmans stance and delivery on an unrelated matter...oh the irony in that!

Shhh... I was waiting for his response! :rolleyes:

[_Gina_]

... fancy calling oneself a cunt, fancy calling anybody a cunt.

Most of you deserve a severe spanking.
Each to their own Miss...and online antics are that simply are they not?

[Maha]

Not much changes round here, does it?

Thread starts with an interesting topic to discuss and then before you know it, the nasties are out and the shit starts flying.

Far too many cunts on here.

... fancy calling oneself a cunt, fancy calling anybody a cunt.

Most of you deserve a severe spanking.

KB is still yet to end up on TV News..unlike FB, which is on there at least once a week with drug smoking bully bastard homosexuals still living at home with mum...:niceone:

[Maha]

Shhh... I was waiting for his response! :rolleyes:

Truth is Ed...you are consistent with your beliefs...as are the likes of Katman/Madness etc, you are very much alike in the respect. :rolleyes:

[Madness]

My point was specifically that the great unwashed couldn't care less about legislation and many will abuse whatever is available, including glue, solvents, alcohol, drugs- legal or not, and if MJ was freely available, that too.

Waffle, waffle.

You raise an interesting point Ed, although it doesn't help you argue your case any. If I get caught smoking a joint in my living room, doors locked & curtains drawn - I might get a criminal conviction. If I stand on K Road all day & night sniffing a bag of glue until I'm a dribbling mess and annoying people walking past and tax-paying retailers I cannot be charged with a criminal offence and would be treated as a health patient, if I recieve anything other than a popo-funded car ride to under the bridge away from view. Remember BlanketMan?

Fucking hypocrisy, innit?

Thanks again for pointing that out.

[mashman]

My point was specifically that the great unwashed couldn't care less about legislation and many will abuse whatever is available, including glue, solvents, alcohol, drugs- legal or not, and if MJ was freely available, that too.

While current laws are not being utilised and advertising isn't working for these people, why add to the mix? Contrary to some nuts here, Cannabis is hardly readily available as is alcohol and legal highs.

The ONLY thing that works is early education to change attitudes and when combined with severe and consistent penalties, behaviour. This covers all areas of concern including cell phone use in cars, as another example.

MJ is freely available. It really isn't hard to hook yourself up with a dealer. You simply ask someone the question et voila. Sure it's easier than walking down to the dairy to pick up legal highs, but they shouldn't be stocking them and I'm very much up for the Dutch model of Cafes etc... But make no mistake, it is readily available. If, as is reported, 400,000 people smoke mj then it's hardly a hard to obtain resource is it? I came off the boat and found someone who smoked within the first day.

Severe and consistent penalties don't work. 400,000 people remember. The who thing is getting ridiculous and the reasons for mj being illegal are a nonsense given the availability of legal highs and alcohol. I agree with education, but I was educated in the just say no era and still went on to take drugs. Why keep pushing shit up hill when you know the core message of the education, i.e. don't take drugs, isn't working, let alone the hypocrisy of legally available substances and their side affects compared to that of mj.

There are perceived to be more positives than negatives if you look at the issue dispassionately. Give me my freedom to choose and if I fuck up, then by all means punish me. If I don't, then leave me the fuck alone to indulge. My wife has no issues with me using and being around the kids, why shouldn't the govt?

[Madness]

MJ is freely available.

Bro, you holding?

[blackdog]

Bro, you holding?

Hope so. I'll be round in an hour Mashy.

[blackdog]

Hope so. I'll be round in an hour Mashy.

Fuck I can't. Forgot I sniffed all the petrol outta the beemer.

[mashman]

Get back in the kitchen and brew me some beer bitch.

Oh fuck, sorry dear, would you like it warmed between my thighs as per?


Have to wait until February, too.

Bit archaic, was gonna bring them into the 21st century.


What ??? As clergy you should be exempt from paying your share of your family's eraic payments ???

Just that of my wives


I am responsible though not sensible...it has been said that I am "dangerous" and an enigma.

Oh and did I mention full of my own self importance?

But not high maintenance, just hard to keep up for most mere males.

A woman of mystery eh... nothing new there as you're all bleeding enigmas.

You missed that bit out, but hopefully we won't talk much and I can always bring duct tape just in case.

Dammit, as a mere male I thought I was in there for a moment.

[Mushu]

Decriminisation is the logical first step, just as Civil Unions were the first step towards equality and fairness for Homosexuals. There are still a lot of Kiwis, predominantly from Ed & Grubbers generation that have been rounded up like sheep into believing what they do and it will take a long time for that to wash out. Decriminalisation with strict limits for age/posession, better testing technology to test for actual impairment and quality education and awareness right through our society. It's a big job but it's gotta be better than creating 30,000 criminals each year. The cost could be offset somewhat by saving all the money currently being wasted from pops through to courts and prisons.

The liquor companies stand to lose and the legal highs industry would disappear. Foodstuffs & Progressive might be able to offset their losses in liquor with buds at the checkout. :niceone:

I stand corrected, you make a good point, I shall move over to the decriminalization camp. Although I do stand behind my previous argument and would like to see it reach the point of it being my decision completely.

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[Madness]

When I speak of education around Cannabis use I don't suggest the message should be "Pot is bad, Mmmmmmkay?". Instead, the message should IMO be one of moderation; "it's not the smoking - it's how we're smoking". I feel also that benefit could be had by educating people that smoking cabbage is a waste of time, one paper is enough and stalks should always, always be removed. Then there's other Cannabis-related nasties like spotting oil made with Isopropyl Alcohol or Acetone and the old favourite of melting aluminium foil, inhaling Aluminium Oxide fumes as you go.

Smoke smarter, New Zealand.

[Madness]

I shall move over to the decriminalization camp.


Welcome. Pleae leave your XT535 at the door.

[Banditbandit]

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[mashman]

Bro, you holding?

Nah man, I can't find any.


Hope so. I'll be round in an hour Mashy.


Fuck I can't. Forgot I sniffed all the petrol outta the beemer.

There's pre-bottled beer in the fridge and Tramadol in a box. Could make for an interesting way to pass an evenink or indeed dull the sense enough to enjoy the MIL's company for 6 weeks.

[Mushu]

MJ is freely available. It really isn't hard to hook yourself up with a dealer. You simply ask someone the question et voila. Sure it's easier than walking down to the dairy to pick up legal highs, but they shouldn't be stocking them and I'm very much up for the Dutch model of Cafes etc... But make no mistake, it is readily available. If, as is reported, 400,000 people smoke mj then it's hardly a hard to obtain resource is it? I came off the boat and found someone who smoked within the first day.

Severe and consistent penalties don't work. 400,000 people remember. The who thing is getting ridiculous and the reasons for mj being illegal are a nonsense given the availability of legal highs and alcohol. I agree with education, but I was educated in the just say no era and still went on to take drugs. Why keep pushing shit up hill when you know the core message of the education, i.e. don't take drugs, isn't working, let alone the hypocrisy of legally available substances and their side affects compared to that of mj.

There are perceived to be more positives than negatives if you look at the issue dispassionately. Give me my freedom to choose and if I fuck up, then by all means punish me. If I don't, then leave me the fuck alone to indulge. My wife has no issues with me using and being around the kids, why shouldn't the govt?

When I got back after 7 years in Australia, I was able to get a 50 within 2 hours of getting off the plane, and half of that was waiting for the guy to come down and meet me at KFC in Riccarton.

The reason 'just say no' 'hugs not drugs' and d.a.r.e never worked was we all knew it was bullshit propaganda even at primary school.

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[Mushu]

MJ is freely available. It really isn't hard to hook yourself up with a dealer. You simply ask someone the question et voila. Sure it's easier than walking down to the dairy to pick up legal highs, but they shouldn't be stocking them and I'm very much up for the Dutch model of Cafes etc... But make no mistake, it is readily available. If, as is reported, 400,000 people smoke mj then it's hardly a hard to obtain resource is it? I came off the boat and found someone who smoked within the first day.

Severe and consistent penalties don't work. 400,000 people remember. The who thing is getting ridiculous and the reasons for mj being illegal are a nonsense given the availability of legal highs and alcohol. I agree with education, but I was educated in the just say no era and still went on to take drugs. Why keep pushing shit up hill when you know the core message of the education, i.e. don't take drugs, isn't working, let alone the hypocrisy of legally available substances and their side affects compared to that of mj.

There are perceived to be more positives than negatives if you look at the issue dispassionately. Give me my freedom to choose and if I fuck up, then by all means punish me. If I don't, then leave me the fuck alone to indulge. My wife has no issues with me using and being around the kids, why shouldn't the govt?

When I got back after 7 years in Australia, I was able to get a 50 within 2 hours of getting off the plane, and half of that was waiting for the guy to come down and meet me at KFC in Riccarton.

The reason 'just say no' 'hugs not drugs' and d.a.r.e never worked was we all knew it was bullshit propaganda even at primary school, well those of us that had been taught to think for ourselves, anyway.

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[_Gina_]

A woman of mystery eh... nothing new there as you're all bleeding enigmas.

You missed that bit out, but hopefully we won't talk much and I can always bring duct tape just in case.

Dammit, as a mere male I thought I was in there for a moment.

An enigma is someone who is 'yet to become' are you being deliberately obtuse? *jokes*


Because I think you are funny and would appreciate it I will share a joke I was told today...

I hate double standards.
Some girl gets a vibrator and it's seen as a bit of naughty fun,
but when I ordered my 240volt FuckMaster Pro5000 blowup latex doll with 6 speed revolving
pussy, elasticated anus with imitation shit dribble and breast nipple discharge, non-drip semen collection tray,
together with optional built in realistic rape scream sound system...
I'm apparently a dirty fucken pervert :devil2:

[mashman]

When I got back after 7 years in Australia, I was able to get a 50 within 2 hours of getting off the plane, and half of that was waiting for the guy to come down and meet me at KFC in Riccarton.

The reason 'just say no' 'hugs not drugs' and d.a.r.e never worked was we all knew it was bullshit propaganda even at primary school.

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Similarly when I got back to Glasgow a few years ago. Went out for dinner and a friend threw some my way for free without me asking. Great to go to what used to be home sometimes eh.

[Banditbandit]

An enigma is someone who is 'yet to become' are you being deliberately obtuse? *jokes*


Because I think you are funny and would appreciate it I will share a joke I was told today...

I hate double standards.
Some girl gets a vibrator and it's seen as a bit of naughty fun,
but when I ordered my 240volt FuckMaster Pro5000 blowup latex doll with 6 speed revolving
pussy, elasticated anus with imitation shit dribble and breast nipple discharge, non-drip semen collection tray,
together with optional built in realistic rape scream sound system...
I'm apparently a dirty fucken pervert :devil2:



That's a joke ????

[mashman]

An enigma is someone who is 'yet to become' are you being deliberately obtuse? *jokes*


Because I think you are funny and would appreciate it I will share a joke I was told today...

I hate double standards.
Some girl gets a vibrator and it's seen as a bit of naughty fun,
but when I ordered my 240volt FuckMaster Pro5000 blowup latex doll with 6 speed revolving
pussy, elasticated anus with imitation shit dribble and breast nipple discharge, non-drip semen collection tray,
together with optional built in realistic rape scream sound system...
I'm apparently a dirty fucken pervert :devil2:

I make no pretense that my Mrs doesn't consistently surprise me. Keep 'em mean ;)

let me know when the 12v version comes out as I don't want the wife to find out when she reads the electricity bill.

[Grubber]

Decriminisation is the logical first step, just as Civil Unions were the first step towards equality and fairness for Homosexuals. There are still a lot of Kiwis, predominantly from Ed & Grubbers generation that have been rounded up like sheep into believing what they do and it will take a long time for that to wash out. Decriminalisation with strict limits for age/posession, better testing technology to test for actual impairment and quality education and awareness right through our society. It's a big job but it's gotta be better than creating 30,000 criminals each year. The cost could be offset somewhat by saving all the money currently being wasted from pops through to courts and prisons.

The liquor companies stand to lose and the legal highs industry would disappear. Foodstuffs & Progressive might be able to offset their losses in liquor with buds at the checkout. :niceone:

Finally some sensible conversation.
Would just like to add that it is not only "my generation" Madness that really have no interest in drugs and would prefer it eradicated if ever possible.
My kids have a huge bunch of mates that wouldn't have a bar of it, and for the record, they have different parents the lot of them. Age ranging between 15 and around 30 at a guess. I haven't heard any of them say different.
So it's not just a generational thing to be fair.
But in part i can agree with some portions of your statement. If you are sitting at home sensibly having a toke, or for that matter drinking a few ales with ya mates, then so be it and leave you alone. Not totally comfortable, but near enough. I don't necessarily have to invite you to my place or like you for it, but it's your choice.
If i ever find out you have arrived at my place after the effect without asking my permission then you will get my foot up your arse, my choice. I actually find that pretty damn offensive to be honest.
If you ever drive on the same road as me under the influence or work with me ( not like that will happen, cause i won't let it) then don't expect me to show you any mercy either, as i don't suffer fools gladly.
so i'm somewhere in between, but have to say, i have never seen any good come from pot or any other substance, and i have been around and in some very dark places at times, so i do have some links one way or another.
Not so sure it's anything to do with being rounded up like sheep, we just have a far different train of thought on these things for different reasons.
Do you ot think also that the money could be saved by people just getting their highs from more life substance, that way we wouldn't have to chase the users around all day, if they weren't interested in using that is. There is more to life than chasing an artificial high, you can get a rush from all sorts of natural daily chores or passions. You ride a bike, surely you must get some rush out of that! At no cost to your health either! Or anyone else's for that matter. (accidents under the influence)
Thanks anyway for the well written statement.

[Banditbandit]

Fuck me - this thread has gone from page 53 this morning to page 61 at 4.40pm ... I'll bet by tomorrow it wil be passed page 70 ... and it's not even on a motorcycle topic !!!

[blackdog]

Post of the thread Grubber.

Fucking back-pedal much?

[Fast Eddie]

Cannabis is well tested
I'm not so sure that it is..


Cannabis is hardly readily available as is alcohol and legal highs.
hm, probably easier to get actually. especially for kids who aren't old enough to be allowed to buy alcohol or cigarettes yet.

[nodrog]

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[Grubber]

Post of the thread Grubber.

Fucking back-peddle much?

Not really Dude, your still not comin to my place again.
read it more carefully and you will see it for what it is.
I detest the shit and those who use it, for reasons i have given and plenty more i haven't, nothings changed.
But what i do see now is someone who has not sat there and said it's my way or the highway but at least offered up some kind of solution for his part.
For me, don't see the need for it in society as a general and i'm the same with alcohol just in case you were wondering.
Only difference is, i can have a couple of beers and be fine, i can't with dope, and that's not just me either fella, that's you and anyone else who indulges. Never mind the legal parts either, cause that's got nothing to do with it.
So you can back pedal right up my arse mate!

And for the record, i have little or no respect for someone i offer a place to stay arriving stoned at my family home. As i wouldn't if they were pissed.
You really have no idea!

[bogan]

Fuck me - this thread has gone from page 53 this morning to page 61 at 4.40pm ... I'll bet by tomorrow it wil be passed page 70 ... and it's not even on a motorcycle topic !!!

One might comment on the correlation between the topic at hand, and the prevalence of posts during work hours. :innocent:

[Madness]

Finally some sensible conversation.
Would just like to add that it is not only "my generation" Madness that really have no interest in drugs and would prefer it eradicated if ever possible.
My kids have a huge bunch of mates that wouldn't have a bar of it, and for the record, they have different parents the lot of them. Age ranging between 15 and around 30 at a guess. I haven't heard any of them say different.
So it's not just a generational thing to be fair.
But in part i can agree with some portions of your statement. If you are sitting at home sensibly having a toke, or for that matter drinking a few ales with ya mates, then so be it and leave you alone. Not totally comfortable, but near enough. I don't necessarily have to invite you to my place or like you for it, but it's your choice.
If i ever find out you have arrived at my place after the effect without asking my permission then you will get my foot up your arse, my choice. I actually find that pretty damn offensive to be honest.
If you ever drive on the same road as me under the influence or work with me ( not like that will happen, cause i won't let it) then don't expect me to show you any mercy either, as i don't suffer fools gladly.
so i'm somewhere in between, but have to say, i have never seen any good come from pot or any other substance, and i have been around and in some very dark places at times, so i do have some links one way or another.
Not so sure it's anything to do with being rounded up like sheep, we just have a far different train of thought on these things for different reasons.
Do you ot think also that the money could be saved by people just getting their highs from more life substance, that way we wouldn't have to chase the users around all day, if they weren't interested in using that is. There is more to life than chasing an artificial high, you can get a rush from all sorts of natural daily chores or passions. You ride a bike, surely you must get some rush out of that! At no cost to your health either! Or anyone else's for that matter. (accidents under the influence)
Thanks anyway for the well written statement.

I'm glad you liked my post and I'm glad you're adjusting your position somewhat after reading the views expressed by others with what must be an open-mind to some degree.

I'd like to come back in response to the bit about people getting high from life & not "needing" Cannabis or chasing artificial highs. For me Cannabis is like a cold beer after work, salt on my fries or sauce on my mince pie. It adds to the experience, enhances it, makes it even more fucking awesome than it might have been without it. Cannabis for me isn't like Heroin is to a junkie, I get up every morning & go to work and function fine without it, without those I interact with realising I might have been a bit potted the night before.

I'd like to respond to you & your mates not having a bar of it also. I wouldn't want to have a bar of homosexuality (that sounded bad, huh?) but I wouldn't let that get in the way of others who choose to root others with the same bits. I find the inequality towards Gay Marriage deplorable in this day & age and struggle to believe that homosexuality itself was a crime not that long ago. Stll, the changes to our laws to date in this area do give me hope that further steps towards being able to call New Zealand a fair country to all are not far away.

As an aside, I haven't hd a good smoke for more than a week now and I'm not crawling the walls or poking anybodys eyes out. Yet.

[_Gina_]

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Nah - this is definitely post of the thread!!!

:first:

[blackdog]

... i can have a couple of beers and be fine, i can't with dope... (sic)

So you have smoked then.

[Katman]

Only difference is, i can have a couple of beers and be fine, i can't with dope, and that's not just me either fella, that's you and anyone else who indulges.

Really? So now your judging everyone else by your own short-comings?

The mere fact that you can't handle cannabis in no way indicates anyone else's ability to do so.

I doubt even Ed could beat that post for sheer stupidity.

[Fast Eddie]

..you can get a rush from all sorts of natural daily chores..

:rolleyes:

shagging is about the only one I can think of.

[Madness]

:rolleyes:

shagging is about the only one I can think of.

Dunno 'bout you but I hate shagging when I'm stoned, not that I'd turn one down.

[blackdog]

:rolleyes:

shagging is about the only one I can think of.

The missus will be rapt to hear it's a chore!

[_Gina_]

The missus will be rapt to hear it's a chore!

Yeah you should let her know- maybe she can start getting some of her chores done while doing you !

[mashman]

The missus will be rapt to hear it's a chore!

ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaa.... must spread before giving it to my master again

[mashman]

Yeah you should let her know- maybe she can start getting some of her chores done while doing you !

In which case I'd make sure she was in the bathroom with a rag in her hand so that she doesn't have an excuse for not cleaning the bath.

[Fast Eddie]

The missus will be rapt to hear it's a chore!
hehe, glad the post registered with someone


Dunno 'bout you but I hate shagging when I'm stoned, not that I'd turn one down.
Sometimes you just have to do the lawns even when its raining..

[sidecar bob]

Fuck me - this thread has gone from page 53 this morning to page 61 at 4.40pm ... I'll bet by tomorrow it wil be passed page 70 ... and it's not even on a motorcycle topic !!!

Yep, people are passionate about weed, fuck knows, its not that special.
If it was about Tomatoes it wouldnt have made it past three posts.

[SMOKEU]

You ride a bike, surely you must get some rush out of that! At no cost to your health either! Or anyone else's for that matter. (accidents under the influence)


I had a great rush out of riding a dirt bike, till I binned it and fucked my hand up to the point that I failed exams because I couldn't write properly. That was 2.5 years ago and I still get occasional pain from it. So much for no cost to my health, ay?

There are plenty of others on here who are far worse off than me due to bike crashes.

[blackdog]

I don't think Grubber will be back after his pot smoking hypocrisy was exposed.

A bit hard to crucify anyone after admitting that you had in fact partaken in the evil you are so vehemently opposed to.

[Akzle]

Women can have the vote, idiots should lose it

There may be something in pubs closing at 6 though
a) voting is for dumb c*nts.
b) there are no voting booths in kitchens, so it's fairly obvious god didn't intend women to vote.


Excellent! The new popo iPads have apparently raised popo productivity levels already.
isn't that an oxymoron?

Not at all. I'm just surprised at the (by way of extrapolation) a person - whom we know next to nothing about (we know 3 facts: female, 18yo, and a daughter) - is being torn to shreds here over an action that we have no way of knowing exactly what precipitated it.
we know at least one other thing: she snitched to the pigs.

who gives a fuck what precipitated it? going back to my kicking ed in the nuts analogy, is my being stoned any justification for it?
is my date screaming "rape" any reason not to gag her and chuck her in the boot?
like, i was going to do it anyway...
i feel similarly toward child-molestation victims, who go on to perpetuate it as adults - there comes a time when you need to act for yourself and you can't blame it on the past or what has happened to you ("what precipitated it") at 18, despite a bleeding crotch, the bitch can deal for herself, snitching on your whanau for a victimless crime is bitch in any language.


She might have been abused and this is actually less than her parents deserve :chase:
then, shirley, she might have reported.... the abuse? no?

The difference between you and her is, she is perfect and you are ....well you are you, enough said.
I would back her against you any day, she would probably kill you for some of the comments you have made, i would help too!
2nd) if you ever make disgusting comments such as you have just done regarding my daughter again, trust me fella, one day we will meet!

Basically you have crossed the line you fuckin retard!

What a sorry excuse for a human you are!
you're so fucking exemplary i can hardly read that.
i think you might be a bit precious for this forum there sunshine, it is Kiwi Biker, not Knitting Bitches...

you're welcome to come to my pad, prejudices and all, bring your daughter, and a box (and her box), and a bag of weed. we'll have a fire and toast marshmallows and sing kum-bai-yah.

then i'll rape you.



I would assume that akzls mother thinks hes quite 'perfect' and can say for sure that your daughter isn't, threatening to kill someone for comments on a forum isn't what I'd call well adjusted.
you think i have a mother?! (no, she didn't think i was perfect, at any point in time, i have fond memories of being told to go and play in traffic as a kid...)

sent to a pigless son of a bitch.


The Trolls are strong in this thread, or simply don't know when the horse has died... :zzzz:
horse? i thought it was a donkey, the separation was mutual and we agreed not to speak of it again.


I feel I am entitled to that opinion as he is entitled to put his across in whatever way he chooses. By the way, I have long hair and don't own a tie.

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this is KB, round here, you're entitled to MY opinion.

sent from behind the bushes outside grubber's house.


You're new here, aren't you?
have a pic with that:
http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/207/234/you-must-be-new-here-willy-wonka.jpg

He is hotter. Full of cunning stunts and has hands. What more could you ask for?
stunning what?

As I keep telling Mrs. Bear... :rolleyes:
freud would have a fucking field day with you, mate.

The cost could be offset somewhat by saving all the money currently being wasted from pops through to courts and prisons.
no no no!
you're looking at it from the plebian side of things, that "waste" and "court costs" is actually "lawyers fees" and "judge's salaries.
the status quo is highly fucking profitable, if you're on the right side of the bank.


A woman of mystery eh... nothing new there as you're all bleeding enigmas.

you spelled "vaginas" wrong...


Do you ot think also that the money could be saved by people just getting their highs from more life substance, that way we wouldn't have to chase the users around all day, if they weren't interested in using that is. There is more to life than chasing an artificial high, you can get a rush from all sorts of natural daily chores or passions. You ride a bike, surely you must get some rush out of that! At no cost to your health either! Or anyone else's for that matter. (accidents under the influence)
Thanks anyway for the well written statement.

it's called speed. there's two kinds, one is a white powder that you mix in a teaspoon with some spit, the other is what happens when you crank your right wrist back. people can be just as easily addicted to either. i would suggest that in public, ie on a road, the latter is more dangerous to society at large, and science/statstics would probably agree



// but seriously, are all the mods at an orgy or something?

[gwigs]

Please,please God Stop This Thread ...its gone on too long,
its taken up too much of my spare time following ...been good had a few laughs,
And I am pot smoker and I,ve just come out on KB ,have been for 40 yrs,
I think alcohol is the most destructive drug on the planet.
Alcohol has only ever caused me trouble...for most of my life.
Pot has never got me into trouble and I get enthusiastic about life
when I smoke,it doesnt make you stupid,Ive pulled cars too bits and fixed em,
stripped my bike engine down and fixed transmission,under the influence of pot.
Far from being a drug of lethergy I find I want to do stuff after a smoke ,
wether it be workin gon my bike or teaching myself how to weld or using photoshop.
Just Sayin,

[onearmedbandit]

Please,please God Stop This Thread ...its gone on too long,
its taken up too much of my spare time following ...been good had a few laughs,
And I am pot smoker and I,ve just come out on KB ,have been for 40 yrs,
I think alcohol is the most destructive drug on the planet.
Alcohol has only ever caused me trouble...for most of my life.
Pot has never got me into trouble and I get enthusiastic about life
when I smoke,it doesnt make you stupid,Ive pulled cars too bits and fixed em,
stripped my bike engine down and fixed transmission,under the influence of pot.
Far from being a drug of lethergy I find I want to do stuff after a smoke ,
wether it be workin gon my bike or teaching myself how to weld or using photoshop.
Just Sayin,


Plus fucking 2. Only about 23yrs for me though, I've got a bit of catching up to do.

[mashman]

Plus fucking 2. Only about 23yrs for me though, I've got a bit of catching up to do.

Plus 3. Except a few years on then a few years off as and when I feel over the past 26 years

[Madness]

http://i.qkme.me/36dw3n.jpg

10mfhalc..

[unstuck]

Drugs are bad.:devil2:

[blue rider]

Please,please God Stop This Thread ...its gone on too long,
its taken up too much of my spare time following ...been good had a few laughs,
And I am pot smoker and I,ve just come out on KB ,have been for 40 yrs,
I think alcohol is the most destructive drug on the planet.
Alcohol has only ever caused me trouble...for most of my life.
Pot has never got me into trouble and I get enthusiastic about life
when I smoke,it doesnt make you stupid,Ive pulled cars too bits and fixed em,
stripped my bike engine down and fixed transmission,under the influence of pot.
Far from being a drug of lethergy I find I want to do stuff after a smoke ,
wether it be workin gon my bike or teaching myself how to weld or using photoshop.
Just Sayin,

here you need munchies...

[SMOKEU]

Please,please God Stop This Thread ...its gone on too long,
its taken up too much of my spare time following ...been good had a few laughs,
And I am pot smoker and I,ve just come out on KB ,have been for 40 yrs,
I think alcohol is the most destructive drug on the planet.
Alcohol has only ever caused me trouble...for most of my life.
Pot has never got me into trouble and I get enthusiastic about life
when I smoke,it doesnt make you stupid,Ive pulled cars too bits and fixed em,
stripped my bike engine down and fixed transmission,under the influence of pot.
Far from being a drug of lethergy I find I want to do stuff after a smoke ,
wether it be workin gon my bike or teaching myself how to weld or using photoshop.
Just Sayin,

Plus 4 to that.

But, this thread needs to keep going! It's been my main source of entertainment for the past few days.

[Laava]

Thinking of starting a poll with the following options. What do you think?
1, yes, she should be kicked out of home for being a dobbing bitch
2, no she has done the right thing to those no good, drughead loser parents
3, what was the OP about again? I am finding everyone has a different opinion to me and I am getting very angry about it!

[Madness]

Thinking of starting a poll with the following options. What do you think?
1, yes, she should be kicked out of home for being a dobbing bitch
2, no she has done the right thing to those no good, drughead loser parents
3, what was the OP about again? I am finding everyone has a different opinion to me and I am getting very angry about it!

Go for it. What's the worst that can happen - another 60 pages? Make the votes visible too :corn:

[mashman]

Thinking of starting a poll with the following options. What do you think?
1, yes, she should be kicked out of home for being a dobbing bitch
2, no she has done the right thing to those no good, drughead loser parents
3, what was the OP about again? I am finding everyone has a different opinion to me and I am getting very angry about it!

What about, she should come on to KB to explain why she snitched on mum and dad. I demand an answer and she should be forced to answer for 60 pages of my life.

[scissorhands]

Just proves it is all about availability. If dope was as readily available as Alcohol and the "legal highs" it would be the same issue. As I said a long time and many pages ago, for every person who exercises restraint and self control there are a million others who don't. This is why I don't support the legalisation of Cannabis.


Your a freaking moron

[SMOKEU]

This thread needs to continue for at least another 63 pages.

[PrincessBandit]

This thread needs to continue for at least another 63 pages.

pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaasssssssseeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeee nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

[Madness]

pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaasssssssseeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeee nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

But you've changed your settings so that's probably like another 3 or 4 for you.

Pussy.

[Virago]

Your a freaking moron

*You're...

[SMOKEU]

pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaasssssssseeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeee nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

You could just try ignoring the thread if you want.

[Edbear]

[COLOR="#139922"]freud would have a fucking field day with you, mate]

I confused my Psychiatrist... :rolleyes:

[Madness]

I confused my Psychiatrist... :rolleyes:

You only have the one? I'd have thought there'd be a whole team of 'em.

[Edbear]

You only have the one? I'd have thought there'd be a whole team of 'em.

It was a long time ago and I haven't been asked to see another one since.. :rolleyes:

It gave me incentive to do futher study on human psychology though, he was a very interesting bloke. :yes:

[Grubber]

I don't think Grubber will be back after his pot smoking hypocrisy was exposed.

A bit hard to crucify anyone after admitting that you had in fact partaken in the evil you are so vehemently opposed to.

Not really fella.
Point is i grew up!
Didn't take too long to realise it was a waste.
If you had read carefully you would see i hadn't said i never did, so expose..nah...hypocrisy...nah i just plain came to my senses, which it appears you still haven't.
At 40ish one would have thought you were over it by now!

[Grubber]

I had a great rush out of riding a dirt bike, till I binned it and fucked my hand up to the point that I failed exams because I couldn't write properly. That was 2.5 years ago and I still get occasional pain from it. So much for no cost to my health, ay?

There are plenty of others on here who are far worse off than me due to bike crashes.

Shit happens when you ride bikes and drive cars etc etc. Got nothing to do with being doped.
Not really relevant here i don't think.

[Grubber]

a) voting is for dumb c*nts.
b) there are no voting booths in kitchens, so it's fairly obvious god didn't intend women to vote.


isn't that an oxymoron?

we know at least one other thing: she snitched to the pigs.

who gives a fuck what precipitated it? going back to my kicking ed in the nuts analogy, is my being stoned any justification for it?
is my date screaming "rape" any reason not to gag her and chuck her in the boot?
like, i was going to do it anyway...
i feel similarly toward child-molestation victims, who go on to perpetuate it as adults - there comes a time when you need to act for yourself and you can't blame it on the past or what has happened to you ("what precipitated it") at 18, despite a bleeding crotch, the bitch can deal for herself, snitching on your whanau for a victimless crime is bitch in any language.


then, shirley, she might have reported.... the abuse? no?

you're so fucking exemplary i can hardly read that.
i think you might be a bit precious for this forum there sunshine, it is Kiwi Biker, not Knitting Bitches...

you're welcome to come to my pad, prejudices and all, bring your daughter, and a box (and her box), and a bag of weed. we'll have a fire and toast marshmallows and sing kum-bai-yah.

then i'll rape you.


you think i have a mother?! (no, she didn't think i was perfect, at any point in time, i have fond memories of being told to go and play in traffic as a kid...)

sent to a pigless son of a bitch.


horse? i thought it was a donkey, the separation was mutual and we agreed not to speak of it again.



this is KB, round here, you're entitled to MY opinion.

sent from behind the bushes outside grubber's house.


have a pic with that:
http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/207/234/you-must-be-new-here-willy-wonka.jpg

stunning what?

freud would have a fucking field day with you, mate.

no no no!
you're looking at it from the plebian side of things, that "waste" and "court costs" is actually "lawyers fees" and "judge's salaries.
the status quo is highly fucking profitable, if you're on the right side of the bank.

you spelled "vaginas" wrong...


it's called speed. there's two kinds, one is a white powder that you mix in a teaspoon with some spit, the other is what happens when you crank your right wrist back. people can be just as easily addicted to either. i would suggest that in public, ie on a road, the latter is more dangerous to society at large, and science/statstics would probably agree



// but seriously, are all the mods at an orgy or something?


Your such a dick i can't believe you actually survive on this planet.

[Banditbandit]

Your such a dick i can't believe you actually survive on this planet.

He doesn't - he's on a different one and just visits for Kiwi Biker ..

[_Gina_]

Has anyone here eaten MJ?

And if so how did you find the difference between that and smoking it?

[Banditbandit]

Has anyone here eaten MJ?

And if so how did you find the difference between that and smoking it?

Eating it takes a little longer to ingest and feel the effects .. which are more intense in the body from smoking - which is quicker and can be a more mind-stone than a body stone ... Swallowing the glucose capsules that oil has been stored in is even more intense ..

But it depends on the quality of the cannabis as well ... different batches can give you different results .. so it is hard to make a comparison ...

[Mushu]

Has anyone here eaten MJ?

And if so how did you find the difference between that and smoking it?

Friends show up with fudge or muffins every now and then, and they definitely get me wasted as, but you can never be sure how wasted because you finish the lot before it hits you so I tend to leave that for at night.
They kind of taste funny too, so I prefer to use my vaporizer, just as 'safe' but far easier (once you work out the proper heat setting)

Sent from my XT535 using Tapatalk 2

[SMOKEU]

SWIM told me that making butter from cab and then swallowing the chunks of butter or adding them to chocolate pancakes is pretty good.

[imdying]

Has anyone here eaten MJ?Nope, I'm wasn't 8 so he wasn't interested :crybaby:

[_Gina_]

Nope, I'm wasn't 8 so he wasn't interested :crybaby:

Dude- I am not worthy... that is pure gold! :niceone:

[imdying]

Would be if the grammar wasn't akin to seventh day adventists mental health :(

[_Gina_]

Would be if the grammar wasn't akin to seventh day adventists mental health :(
Look, it was that great I was willing to overlook that (which is not my norm) :2thumbsup

[Grubber]

He doesn't - he's on a different one and just visits for Kiwi Biker ..

that kinda makes sence!
wonder no one has set fire to his arse by now!

[Fast Eddie]

Would be if the grammar wasn't akin to seventh day adventists mental health :(

thought you were just talking about yourself in the third person...

[Edbear]

Hey, this is KB where grammar and spelling are foreign concepts. Even using the correct words is beyond many on here. :lol:

[Maha]

Hey, this is KB where grammar and spelling are foreign concepts. Even using the correct words is beyond many on here. :lol:

Bullhip.....:killingme

[Edbear]

Bullhip.....:killingme

Ah well, them's the brakes, eh..? :msn-wink:

[Akzle]

3, what was the OP about again? I am finding everyone has a different opinion to me and I am getting very angry about it!
don' git aangry mun.. smoke da 'erb mun!

Your such a dick i can't believe you actually survive on this planet.
:

*You're...

:motu:

[scissorhands]

Hey, this is KB where grammar and spelling are foreign concepts. Even using the correct words is beyond many on here. :lol:

Okay fuck it
I admit it
I'm a retard with
they're their
your you're
Now that you've had your fun
Who else is going to admit there sins?
Mr Perfect?

[Edbear]

Okay fuck it
I admit it
I'm a retard with
they're their
your you're
Now that you've had your fun
Who else is going to admit there sins?
Mr Perfect?

You're not a retard, it is merely a matter of learning. It may not be so easy for some to learn but it is not a reflection on intelligence. You know you could learn if you gave it the time and effort.

[scissorhands]

Thanks Mr ed prefect
We are all retarded in some way or another....
Except those who are perfect

[Edbear]

Thanks Mr ed prefect
We are all retarded in some way or another....
Except those who are perfect

I thought I had an imperfection once, but it polished out... :cool:

[Katman]

I thought I had an imperfection once, but it polished out... :cool:

A spot on the end of your dick, was it?

[Akzle]

Who else is going to admit there sins?
Mr Perfect?

*their sins

:D

and i'm fucking perfec!

[SMOKEU]

Who else is going to admit there sins?


I sense a "catholic priest, little boy" scenario brewing.

[blackdog]

I sense a "catholic priest, little boy" scenario brewing.

Or maybe a Jehovah's Witness and a bondage mistress.

[Edbear]

Or maybe a Jehovah's Witness and a bondage mistress.

Nah, I showed her some fluffy cuffs but she wasn't keen on the idea... :rolleyes:

[Edbear]

A spot on the end of your dick, was it?

Some of us don't need to wank... :msn-wink:

[SMOKEU]

Or maybe a Jehovah's Witness and a bondage mistress.

Ohhh that could be pretty kinky.

[blackdog]

Nah, I showed her some fluffy cuffs but she wasn't keen on the idea... :rolleyes:

She's obviously not catering to your needs then Ed. Kick her to the kerb and find yerself one that will give you the punishment you have so often stated you feel you deserve.

[Edbear]

She's obviously not catering to your needs then Ed. Kick her to the kerb and find yerself one that will give you the punishment you have so often stated you feel you deserve.

Actually she prefers hands-free and so do I... :msn-wink:

[blackdog]

Actually she prefers hands-free and so do I... :msn-wink:

Amateurs...

[Edbear]

Amateurs...

Speaking from 35 years married here. How about you? :cool:

[blackdog]

Speaking from 35 years married here. How about you? :cool:

Trust me mate, I know I have more fun than you.

Sent while hanging from the ceiling in stocks, with bleeding cane marks.

[SMOKEU]

Speaking from 35 years married here. How about you? :cool:

Try sparking up a cone before you do your "thing" behind closed doors. It's guaranteed to enhance the experience.

[scumdog]

Try sparking up a cone before you do your "thing" behind closed doors. It's guaranteed to enhance the experience.

Works every time for you eh Smokey??:msn-wink:

[Akzle]

Works every time for you eh Smokey??:msn-wink:

yeah. it's not weird that he's all alone behind the closet door though... is it?

[PrincessBandit]

oh ffs, just when this thread looked like it was starting to wilt...........

[blackdog]

oh ffs, just when this thread looked like it was starting to wilt...........

I couldn't let it die. Am doing my best to send to PD though.

[SMOKEU]

This thread needs more trolls.

[mashman]

Works every time for you eh Smokey??:msn-wink:

Of all the people to ask for advice in this thread, SmokeU? Yes it might even work for you.

[Akzle]

This thread needs more trolls.

*looks left...




...*looks right



...



i thought we were all accounted for....



how many trolls could a troll troll if a troll could troll trolls?

[Edbear]

*looks left...

...*looks right
...
i thought we were all accounted for....

how many trolls could a troll troll if a troll could troll trolls?

A Troll would troll as many Troll's as a Troll could troll if a Troll could troll Troll's... :cool:

[Akzle]

A Troll would troll as many Troll's as a Troll could troll if a Troll could troll Troll's... :cool:

:doh:

plurals don't require an apostrophe, or capitalisation.


/o wait. i see what you did there...

(okay, i know you're actually an idiot and didn't actually mean it, but i'm giving you the benefit of this one.)

[Zedder]

oh ffs, just when this thread looked like it was starting to wilt...........

It's a one of those...

[Edbear]

:doh:

plurals don't require an apostrophe, or capitalisation.


/o wait. i see what you did there...

(okay, i know you're actually an idiot and didn't actually mean it, but i'm giving you the benefit of this one.)

:rolleyes:


..............

[Mushu]

This thread needs more trolls.

*Hello*

Sent from my XT535 using Tapatalk 2

[Brian d marge]

right ,this whole drugs thing sux balls

1, I dont have any
2 , fk off and leave me alone , if I want to i will and I will wear the consequences
3. I still dont have any
4 why do people waste so much time and effort on something that’s not important ( unless its to distract from other issues )


oh stoned at work , like that’s never happened before , ( half your motorbikes are designed by stoners )

Stephen

[Fast Eddie]

oh ffs, just when this thread looked like it was starting to wilt...........

never break the...

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[Usarka]

half your motorbikes are designed by stoners


And at least one world champion has been a stoner.

[Maha]

:doobey:...post 1000.