MotoGP 2016

[EJK]

I think that was like 3-4 times MM saved himself from washing out the front this season.

Dude doesn't know how to crash!!

[Moise]

Vinales could have been second in the race if he'd stayed on the track. But then almost everyone had their own dramas - a pity there isn't good video of Marquez's latest save.



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[george formby]

I think that was like 3-4 times MM saved himself from washing out the front this season.

Dude doesn't know how to crash!!

His reactions and instincts are off the hook. His ability this season to maintain pace and manage tires on the Honda at a pretty ragged edge is unsettling. When Honda get their form back........
MV on the Yamaha? Well, that will probably come down to the engine performance against the Ducs and Honda.

Caveat. I could be talking absolute cobblers. Moto GP is turning into a very tough and relatively even contest. It's getting really, really hot. Gladiatorial again.

And the big question... How much more does Vale have in the tank. I struggle to believe he is still at the pointy end on the track and his post racing empire is already well established. Love or hate him, he just loves racing and winning.

[Dadpole]

How much more does Vale have in the tank. I struggle to believe he is still at the pointy end on the track.

I reckon Rossi is as fast as the top riders there. What he lacks in outright speed he makes up in other ways. We are lucky we have Marquez and Lorenzo on the same level or it could be racing with gaps you could measure with an egg timer.

I doubt we will see that combination of talent, drive, experience and thinking ability again unless Marquez races into his thirties.

[ellipsis]

I reckon Rossi is as fast as the top riders there. What he lacks in outright speed he makes up in other ways. We are lucky we have Marquez and Lorenzo on the same level or it could be racing with gaps you could measure with an egg timer.

I doubt we will see that combination of talent, drive, experience and thinking ability again unless Marquez races into his thirties.


...there has never been a time when stories haven't been written about every seasons duels between the top nutters...and history unfolds before us every day...MV is hot as now, I hope to see the revelation of a new alien, but that has nothing to do with Yamaha or Suzuki, that is purely in the lap of the Gods...

[george formby]

...there has never been a time when stories haven't been written about every seasons duels between the top nutters...and history unfolds before us every day...MV is hot as now, I hope to see the revelation of a new alien, but that has nothing to do with Yamaha or Suzuki, that is purely in the lap of the Gods...

Yep, more fuel to the fire with MV. A couple of others trying, but failing, to get consistency, too. Exciting times.
That's what I meant by VR's post racing future, his academy, he has invested in the future of racing and quite happily trains and mentors the future riders. Kenny Roberts keep springing to mind but I think VR has learned from KR's failings. Ciao Fenati.

[sharky]

Looks like sky is playing the moto 3 race tonight.

[Dadpole]

Looks like sky is playing the moto 3 race tonight.

About bloody time too. What are you people paying your money for? Just Crossfit Games and WWE?

[Moise]

About bloody time too. What are you people paying your money for? Just Crossfit Games and WWE?
No practice sessions either apart from FP4. I'm sure Sky could show them but just don't bother.

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[Crasherfromwayback]

You fucking homos that wank on about Sky failing you...do it year in, year fucking out. Save your fucking money, and go to MotoGP.fucking com. Sick of hearing about it.

[eelracing]

Rossi has also commented in the past that MV "does not close the throttle". So he's clearly sizing him up.
Gunna be interesting indeed!


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Good call.

My take...Vinales will be regularly beating Rossi by the second half of next season,if not before.He will suit the Yamaha but Honda/Marquez are on fire now so to be 0-17 champ will require a Honda balls-up...always a poss.
Jorge on the Duke is a mouth watering prospect and I hope he comes good.
MV 2018 Champ.

[malcy25]

You fucking homos that wank on about Sky failing you...do it year in, year fucking out. Save your fucking money, and go to MotoGP.fucking com. Sick of hearing about it.

Lol, so true. Worth the money - never bothered with SKY.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Lol, so true. Worth the money - never bothered with SKY.

Aye. They're a bit slow on the uptake some of these folks...

[Drew]

I like the Sky coverage. I get more than just the sport too.

[ellipsis]

...I have a dreamweaver, woven from local flax and festooned with cheap cut glass hanging from my defunct sky dish...this generates the needed wave pattern to enable me to watch all the drivel leading up to the main event...toss up whether it's M3 or GP...by the end of all them wanks dribbling shit from friday through to monday I sometimes wonder if I could spend my time better...and the result of the big two races is somewhat of an anticlimax...especially as the M3 shit is now somewhat deemed a race for second best and no matter how hard I squeeze my sphincter and moan like I have a sore left nut, I can see another season of waiting for a 10th...unless my dreamweaver can reverse it's wave and make MM's Honda seize , three times...

[BMWST?]

No practice sessions either apart from FP4. I'm sure Sky could show them but just don't bother.

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they did show qualifying on saturday night which includes moto gp fp4/For reasons that escape me it didnt show up on the sky tv guide when i looked on the laptop on saturday afternoon.I just though i would check at 11 30 pm and it was on.I have given sky a tune up.Why have a electronic guide if its not accurate! Surely the same data fees the guide nad the actual tv on screen guide

[Moise]

they did show qualifying on saturday night which includes moto gp fp4/For reasons that escape me it didnt show up on the sky tv guide when i looked on the laptop on saturday afternoon.I just though i would check at 11 30 pm and it was on.I have given sky a tune up.Why have a electronic guide if its not accurate! Surely the same data fees the guide nad the actual tv on screen guide
That's another Sky annoyance - their TV guide is not always up to date. But if you have MySky and set it to record MotoGP qualifying and races as series, then it automatically records everything. So even though they showed Moto3 delayed, the box recorded it! If the race is red flagged, then the end time adjusts automatically. So there are some smarts in the system.

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[Kornholio]

Was paying $2.50 when I got him... :shifty:

Ha nice, I put my cash on Vinales to win and get in top 3.... also put a sneaky fiver on Lorenzo to get top 3 :shifty:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Ha nice, I put my cash on Vinales to win and get in top 3.... also put a sneaky fiver on Lorenzo to get top 3 :shifty:

Pedro for Japan.

MM for Phillip Island.

Pedro for Sepang.

MM for Valencia.

[BMWST?]

That's another Sky annoyance - their TV guide is not always up to date. But if you have MySky and set it to record MotoGP qualifying and races as series, then it automatically records everything. So even though they showed Moto3 delayed, the box recorded it! If the race is red flagged, then the end time adjusts automatically. So there are some smarts in the system.

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i am not paying them even more bloody money than i already do.They came and disconected my dvd recorder and replaced with a non fuctional my sky box because they coudnt figure out why we had rain fade just about every night!

[Moise]

Fair enough, I hate paying the Sky bill every month. And they still charge $10 a month for HD!

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[EJK]

Only 4 races to go. Anybody betting Rossi to catch up on 40 points?

[Kornholio]

Only 4 races to go. Anybody betting Rossi to catch up on 40 points?

At the start of the year I put $15 on Rossi to take out championship... Fingers crossed :wacko:

[Autech]

Pedro for Japan.

MM for Phillip Island.

Pedro for Sepang.

MM for Valencia.

No arguments there except maybe MV or AI in Phillip Island


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[roogazza]

Only 4 races to go. Anybody betting Rossi to catch up on 40 points?

Yeah, it'll rain for japan and Austruckingfailure,that'll bugger Horhay. MM will have a slip off or two or a blowup.
Hey presto 10 Titles for Vale !!!! easy !. :yes::shifty::sweatdrop

[Dadpole]

Yeah, it'll rain for japan and Austruckingfailure,that'll bugger Horhay. MM will have a slip off or two or a blowup.
Hey presto 10 Titles for Vale !!!! easy !. :yes::shifty::sweatdrop

You may have to slip over to PI and nobble Marquez. The meal SWMBO made last night :puke: would put him out for a couple of races. I will courier some to you.

[pritch]

. But if you have MySky and set it to record MotoGP qualifying and races as series, then it automatically records everything.

Mine bloody doesn't. It automatically records Qualifying but I have to set it manually to record races no matter how many times I press the "series" icon.

Gazza, the BT Sport MotoGP Podcast has Suzi Perry interviewing Rossi - worth a listen. Well, worth a listen for thee and me, less so for Pete perhaps?

[Moise]

Mine bloody doesn't. It automatically records Qualifying but I have to set it manually to record races no matter how many times I press the "series" icon.

Gazza, the BT Sport MotoGP Podcast has Suzi Perry interviewing Rossi - worth a listen. Well, worth a listen for thee and me, less so for Pete perhaps?
So I'm just lucky that it works.

As for the Aussie V8 coverage, the EPG doesn't tell what anything is. You either have to guess or cross reference to the race schedule.

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[Dadpole]

BT Sport MotoGP Podcast has Suzi Perry interviewing Rossi - worth a listen.

I caught the second part of that. It is quite clear that Rossi will never forgive what he referred to a a "stolen" title.

He had his full focus on this year and it went pear shaped. He will certainly take no prisoners next year. I wonder if he will be willing to throw away the Rossi legacy and 'nice guy' image to get the title?

[Drew]

I caught the second part of that. It is quite clear that Rossi will never forgive what he referred to a a "stolen" title.

He had his full focus on this year and it went pear shaped. He will certainly take no prisoners next year. I wonder if he will be willing to throw away the Rossi legacy and 'nice guy' image to get the title?Nobody thinks Rossi is a nice guy on the track, and most don't see him that way off the track.

[Dadpole]

By that I meant nice guy off track. There are few - if any - nice guys on track at the top level.

Rossi still has a massive fan base, though diminished after the shenanigans of last year. If he spits the dummy big time next year he may end up less popular than Lorenzo. :devil2:

[george formby]

Nobody thinks Rossi is a nice guy on the track, and most don't see him that way off the track.

Yup. Despite being a Rossi fan I've never doubted that he is a driven man. He wants to win, he wants to be the best, he wants the crowd roaring for him. I've met people with that kind of drive throughout my career. None of whom I would care to have as a friend. They are boring, and callous at times.
I guess it's shades of grey across the GP paddock in that respect, nobody is on the grid for being nice.

I think a big clue to the racing psyche is the immediate post race interviews with the venerable Dylan. Quite often I'm still trying to get my breath back on the couch and the riders sound more like reviewers than racers. Well, then we have Jack Miller, bless him.

[pritch]

Nobody thinks Rossi is a nice guy on the track, and most don't see him that way off the track.

Half right. How would you explain the sea of yellow that we see on TV? Have you been to a GP? The tent that I saw selling his merchandise was twice the size of the one that sold everybody else's. Do you think all the people who buy that stuff do it 'cause he comes across as an arsehole?

[Drew]

Half right. How would you explain the sea of yellow that we see on TV? Have you been to a GP? The tent that I saw selling his merchandise was twice the size of the one that sold everybody else's. Do you think all the people who buy that stuff do it 'cause he comes across as an arsehole?
He is a flamboyant spectacle. He is a God on a bike. He is an aggressive sportsman. With a drive to not only beat, but destroy anyone around him.

Of course the bloody crowd respond. Of course he's the most popular rider around the globe. If ya didn't know anything about bike racing, he would still make the season exciting.

"Because he comes accross as an arsehole". Not at all.

Even though he is an arsehole. That's a better way to put it.

That's him and racing. Total cunt. Bet he's a fucken hoot to hit the piss with away from the track though.

[Moise]

You could say there's been some karma for Rossi this year.

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[BMWST?]

Not karma.He is facing a rival who has more speed,at least as much determination,and no desire to play any games.MM scaringly seems to learn very quickly.He is much changed from last year, willing to take points at every opportunity.In fact MM has scored points in every race this season.VR has had THREE zeroes.

[Crasherfromwayback]

You could say there's been some karma for Rossi this year.



Not karma.He is facing a rival who has more speed,at least as much determination,and no desire to play any games.MM scaringly seems to learn very quickly.He is much changed from last year, willing to take points at every opportunity.In fact MM has scored points in every race this season.VR has had THREE zeroes.


You're both correct I feel.

[george formby]

I re-watched a couple of Brad Binders races last night, particularly Jerez (I think) when he started last.........

Any thoughts / speculation on his future? I can only say he seems very fast and very smart at this stage. Lady luck has been on his side, too, admittedly but not in a freaky way.

[Cosmik de Bris]

I re-watched a couple of Brad Binders races last night, particularly Jerez (I think) when he started last.........

Any thoughts / speculation on his future? I can only say he seems very fast and very smart at this stage. Lady luck has been on his side, too, admittedly but not in a freaky way.

Yeah, he's freaky good at getting through the field, but we've seen it before, guys who are world champions in Moto3 and Moto2 languish at the back in MotoGP. Maybe it just takes time?

[pritch]

Yeah, he's freaky good at getting through the field, but we've seen it before, guys who are world champions in Moto3 and Moto2 languish at the back in MotoGP. Maybe it just takes time?

Latest example: Danny Kent hasn't exactly set the Moto2 world on fire this year.

Thing is there is currently no logical progression in riding style from one class to another. I read recently that the Moto3 bikes have more in common with the GP bikes than Moto2 as regards set up. The point was made that riders who spend too long in Moto2 lose whatever skills they had gained in Moto3.

The riding style in Moto2 is completely different to Moto3 and to MotoGP. A possible consolation is that Moto2 now provides a stepping stone from Supersport whereas the 250s were completely alien to a rider from the SBK paddock. Even so it has taken Sam Lowes a while to adjust.

Meanwhile Motegi is only a week away...

[James Deuce]

Yeah, he's freaky good at getting through the field, but we've seen it before, guys who are world champions in Moto3 and Moto2 languish at the back in MotoGP. Maybe it just takes time?
Yes it does. Mick Doohan took three years to get to the pointy end reliably and on a regular basis. No one questions his skill.

There's too much pressure to perform instantly when moving between classes now. Brad Binder has the best racecraft of anyone I've seen since Rossi started. That is arguably more important for a long, successful career than freakish bike control skills. Marquez and Schwantz have a lot in common except the type of luck they experience. Schwantz got hurt over and over and over and over. Marquez bounces right up and gets on with it and learns rapidly as a result. Both rode and won with bikes that were not for everyone and certainly not the pick of the field.

[Reckless]

There is far too much sense and reasoned thought being cast in this thread.
I'm really beginning to doubt Im logging on to Kiwibiker:crazy::eek5:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Bring on the next three rounds I say. The ones we can watch at home live at a civil hour!

[ellipsis]

...Monday mornings are a good day off to watch the main events...half the weekends already been lost to the P's & Q's, whats another lost day...

[pritch]

To introduce some mathematical calculations for anyone interested?

MM can win the title next week if:
A, 46 finshes 14th or lower, and
B, 99 is 4th or lower.

That'd probably need a DNF for Rossi, but on current form the 4th for JL is somewhat more likely.

If that doesn't do it, Phillip Island might?

[BMWST?]

To introduce some mathematical calculations for anyone interested?

MM can win the title next week if:
A, 46 finshes 14th or lower, and
B, 99 is 4th or lower.

That'd probably need a DNF for Rossi, but on current form the 4th for JL is somewhat more likely.

If that doesn't do it, Phillip Island might?
i assume this is based on MM winning?

[pritch]

i assume this is based on MM winning?

Good guess.

[george formby]

To introduce some mathematical calculations for anyone interested?

MM can win the title next week if:
A, 46 finshes 14th or lower, and
B, 99 is 4th or lower.

That'd probably need a DNF for Rossi, but on current form the 4th for JL is somewhat more likely.

If that doesn't do it, Phillip Island might?

Did you do the math or .... .
I'm kidding, yup, we are at the nail biting bit again. That's why I was watching moto 3, needed a fix and the tiddlers give a big hit.

If MM maintains his calculated approach I doubt he can be beaten but race after race we have seen the unexpected. Sounds a bit cliched, but it's really exciting! I expect it to go to the last race, just a feeling, so many stalkers. Iannone should be back, Lorenzo is gritting his teeth, Pedro has some form and on it goes. Vinales, Dovi, er, Crutchlow......... A lot of riders can mess with the championship table. That old Italian dude, who knows?

Re BB and Danny Kent. I was so rooting for DK, being an ex pom and all that, but I was amazed at how he folded in the second half of his last moto 3 season. No pressure..... BB has chewed this season like a well bred Terrier, pretty much every race, and that takes some guts.
BB has shown considered brilliance but had the benefit of Navarro's ill fortune in a few races. I will take a punt now, rashly, a potential Alien? He's very smart and has ability, bravery and speed. And teeth.

Somebody mentioned the old Gods shining on less than perfect bikes, I put MM in that category. It looks like he is riding the nuts off that Honda every race, if everybody else is 99%, he looks 99.9%, it's not pretty, a bit heart in mouth for me at times. He's found a very fine line and learned to stick to it. Honda will improve the ride, probably quite drastically.

Caveat, my racing experience is all settee based.... :laugh:

Moto 2? Um, er, um. Zarco is great in the class, I like what he does off track and he is good on the day, usually. Limited future, he's not getting fresher. Rins always gets my support, another rider Lady luck passes over, but has put in some incredible laps. I hope he goes forward somehow, hints of great talent.

Ok, a week to go. Feel free to point out my ignorance and emotive thoughts.:mellow:

[James Deuce]

[Zoidberg Voice] Hooray! I'm somebody! [/Zoidberg Voice]

[Moise]

Bathurst and Suzuka this weekend so not missing MotoGP too much ...

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[Metastable]

Hope Marquez get's a mechanical DNF in Japan and Phillip Island.... then runs out of good engines. :D

[pritch]

Rins always gets my support, another rider Lady luck passes over, but has put in some incredible laps. I hope he goes forward somehow, hints of great talent.


IIRC he got ESA's ride at Suzuki? Once he adjusts he should be OK.

[Drew]

With a new engine supplier and hopefully more horsepower, Moto2 may become a breeding ground for Motogp.

The problem at the moment being that Honda supply a less powerful motor than WSS bikes. It's not grand prix racing.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Hope Marquez get's a mechanical DNF in Japan and Phillip Island.... then runs out of good engines. :D

Yeah man. That'd make for an incredibly exciting and interesting end to the season.







































Not.

[pritch]

The problem at the moment being that Honda supply a less powerful motor than WSS bikes.

Dorna wanted more power but Honda didn't want the bikes blowing up.
As Tim "the toolman" Taylor might say, "It doesn't matter what the question is, the answer is more power."

Dominic Aegerter hasn't had a great year, but just when things were looking up it got a whole lot worse. Aegerter announced that he has signed to ride with the Leopard team next year. Interwetten have now made their own announcement. They say Aegerter had verbally agreed to ride for them, since he has now signed for Leopard though he will be replaced, he will not be riding the remaining four rounds.

Bring on the lawyers?

[jasonu]

With a new engine supplier and hopefully more horsepower, Moto2 may become a breeding ground for Motogp.

The problem at the moment being that Honda supply a less powerful motor than WSS bikes. It's not grand prix racing.

Moto2 is more like a hottted up street bike class than a full blown GP line up. That's the problem.

[Metastable]

Yeah man. That'd make for an incredibly exciting and interesting end to the season.


Not.

I'd just rather not see someone with a lisp win MotoGP this year.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I'd just rather not see someone with a lisp win MotoGP this year.

Never noticed he has one. And even if he was mute, I'd love to see him win it for his on the limit approach to racing. Guess you'd rather see paint dry.

[ellipsis]

...I don't give a fuck about how it happens, I just want to see Vale with 10 titles...I love the young fellow MM, his ultimate drive, dream and alien shit...next year will be his, if he can head off MV...emotive it may be be, but VR deserves that title...but such is life, some little cunt is gonna take your favourite seat and you can only fight over it...

[Metastable]

Never noticed he has one. And even if he was mute, I'd love to see him win it for his on the limit approach to racing. Guess you'd rather see paint dry.

People from Spain speak Ethpanish with a Lithp..... folks from Central and South America actually speak Spanish the rest of the world can understand.

I like MM for his on the limit style, his bike control is insane..... his attitude .... well he's an entitled brat. How JL and MM handled the last few races of the year last year was a disgrace to racing. Since those 2 are the only Spanish riders left with a chance to win the Championship, I'd rather they didn't. Plus considering the points differential, if some sort of crazy set of consequences actually happened and Marquez DNF'ed the next 2 races.... it would actually make for an exciting end of the season. Not too sure, maybe you're the one who likes to watch paint dry.

Not to mention if Cal hit MM at 200mph, MM would need a little Cheese to go with his whine.

[pritch]

People from Spain speak Ethpanish with a Lithp.....


The lithp is mentioned in the book "Driving Over Lemons", although he refers to it as being specific to a region. It has also been mentioned that the Catalan speakers in the north don't like hearing their riders speaking a foreign language - meaning Spanish.

[Reckless]

I like MM for his on the limit style, his bike control is insane..... his attitude .... well he's an entitled brat. How JL and MM handled the last few races of the year last year was a disgrace to racing. Since those 2 are the only Spanish riders left with a chance to win the Championship.

Gotta agree with this statement. I'm generally a Rossi fan and would love to see him get 10. And havent been a MM fan in the past.
But the way he held his head and handled things after being knocked of the track by Rossi last year and the way he had ridden and managed this season you gotta give the boy credit he's the best rider out there ATM.
Even if the rest of the races become predictable we have had one of the best seasons ever Dorna got it pretty well right with all these changes :)
Grudgingly: MM for Champ the little shit deserves it!
Rossi second and DP to overtake JL in the standings :msn-wink:

[Crasherfromwayback]

.... well he's an entitled brat.
Not to mention if Cal hit MM at 200mph, MM would need a little Cheese to go with his whine.

Odd. The most entitled brat to ever race Moto GP, is a certain Mr Rossi. Same goes for the crying like a bitch...

[Drew]

They're all entitled brats. It comes from every one of tem believing beyond a shadow of a doubt that they are the best guy on the grid.

Anything less, they couldn't race at that level.

To the racing though.

Rossi
Marquez
Dovi

[onearmedbandit]

Odd. The most entitled brat to ever race Moto GP, is a certain Mr Rossi. Same goes for the crying like a bitch...

I'd have to agree (somewhat reluctantly), but I wonder how much of that has come about because of the 'power' he's been given by Dorna etc.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I'd have to agree (somewhat reluctantly), but I wonder how much of that has come about because of the 'power' he's been given by Dorna etc.

Yeah, they've certainly help build the legend. Pays well you know! But he was also born into it. Not so for MM etc etc.

[Dadpole]

Born into it? His dad was a GP racer. I think VR had to do a bit of work too.

You could level that charge at Roberts Snr & Jnr and the Gardener boys too. Looking through the three classes you find a lot of offspring of top level riders.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Born into it? His dad was a GP racer. I think VR had to do a bit of work too.

You could level that charge at Roberts Snr & Jnr and the Gardener boys too.

Yeah I would. How many GP doors opened for Aaron Slight?

[husaberg]

Yeah I would. How many GP doors opened for Aaron Slight?

Likely the same number as did for Stroud and Crafer.
Both of which accepted lesser rider than a works Honda ride, for the opportunity to race in GPs and then break into a works team.
Which they both did, to differing levels of success.
Slight at least got to ride a NSR500 a few times.

[Drew]

Yeah I would. How many GP doors opened for Aaron Slight?

As many as he deserred I reckon.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Likely the same number as did for Stroud and Crafer.
.

Stroud was a bit player on a Harris framed YZR, Crafer at least did well enough on a superbike to get noticed. But either way...how many doors were opened for them, as compared to one who is born into GP's?

[pritch]

The Spanish riders have been racing pretty much since they could walk which is almost being born into it.

Gardner, Ajo, and Marini all have advantageous family connections, and there are several "sons of" in British circuit racing currently. Once the lights go out though it's all up to the rider, it doesn't matter what their name is.

[Crasherfromwayback]

The Spanish riders have been racing pretty much since they could walk which is almost being born into it.

Gardner, Ajo, and Marini all have advantageous family connections, and there are several "sons of" in British circuit racing currently. Once the lights go out though it's all up to the rider, it doesn't matter what their name is.

Can't agree with you there mate. Starting out as soon as you can walk (Stoner, MM etc etc) is not *born into it* It's working incredibly hard from the get go to get where you want to. Rossi, Gardner etc etc have doors opened for them from the get go.

[Motig]

Can't agree with you there mate. Starting out as soon as you can walk (Stoner, MM etc etc) is not *born into it* It's working incredibly hard from the get go to get where you want to. Rossi, Gardner etc etc have doors opened for them from the get go.

Thats interesting, any chance you could explain how opening doors make you a world champion ? Silly me thought that riding ability had something to do with it.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Thats interesting, any chance you could explain how opening doors make you a world champion ? Silly me thought that riding ability had something to do with it.

Show me where I said it did? But how many incredibly talented kids, will never get the chance to be world champion, as the doors don't get opened for them.

[husaberg]

Stroud was a bit player on a Harris framed YZR, Crafer at least did well enough on a superbike to get noticed. But either way...how many doors were opened for them, as compared to one who is born into GP's?

Err Stroud did 20 GP's i actually thought he did a stint on 250GP Suzuki as well, but i could be wrong on that one.
Crafer prior to going back to superbikes to ride the RC45 for Rumi, was racing for Harris in the 500cc World Championship before joining the Suzuki factory racing team in the 250 class. ie a works ride.
The Suzuki 250, yeah it was a bit of a dog, but it was the same dog as Kokinski had at a similar time.
The WCW yamaha he won a race on, was effectively a works ride.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Crafer prior to going back to superbikes to ride the RC45 for Rumi, was racing for Harris in the 500cc World Championship before joining the Suzuki factory racing team in the 250 class. ie a works ride.
The Suzuki 250, yeah it was a bit of a dog, but it was the same dog as Kokinski had at a similar time.


I think he took over from Kozinski on the RGV250 when he purposely blew the gearbox up no?

And yep...his YZR was full house for sure. I don't remember Stroud riding 250 gp's though. But again...how many people get an easier ride into GP's (especially now), because of who they know?

[Dadpole]

To be fair to Crasher, one could argue that the Pons lads might be hard-pressed to get a ride without the family connections.

Marquez, Lorenzo et al are at the top due to talent, hard work and many other reasons. Family connections can only help so much. You need something else to get to the top.

[pritch]

Can't agree with you there mate. Starting out as soon as you can walk (Stoner, MM etc etc) is not *born into it* It's working incredibly hard from the get go to get where you want to. Rossi, Gardner etc etc have doors opened for them from the get go.

It's similar to what they say about how to win an Olympic gold medal, "Pick your parents very carefully".

They still have to do the job though, the current names we have mentioned don't seem to be setting the world on fire. Hailwood, Rossi, and to a lesser extent Roberts Jr are the successes that spring to mind. That's not a long list.

[Crasherfromwayback]

They still have to do the job though, the current names we have mentioned don't seem to be setting the world on fire. Halewood, Rossi, and to a lesser extent Roberts Jr are the successes that spring to mind. That's not a long list.

Oh for sure mate! Doesn't matter how many doors get opened if you can't ride to save yourself. But even at a lesser level it goes on. Always will. I was never given a bike to race, but lots pf people way slower that I had 'em handed to them on a platter.

Still reckon the final four races are gonna go as I guessed a coupla pages back...

[husaberg]

I think he took over from Kozinski on the RGV250 when he purposely blew the gearbox up no?

And yep...his YZR was full house for sure. I don't remember Stroud riding 250 gp's though. But again...how many people get an easier ride into GP's (especially now), because of who they know?

Not sure, similar time, but my understanding was lil John took the suzuki out the back and revs its nuts off for a few minutes until it blew up.
A few did and still do mainly on account of there country of origion and sponsorship being worth enough money to buy a ride, the same can be said for F1
Barros is one that stands out in my memory.
Criville is another.


It's similar to what they say about how to win an Olympic gold medal, "Pick your parents very carefully".
They still have to do the job though, the current names we have mentioned don't seem to be setting the world on fire. Hailwood, Rossi, and to a lesser extent Roberts Jr are the successes that spring to mind. That's not a long list.
Foggy and Sheene fit that list as well. Kevin Schwantz as well maybe..... oh Haslam as well

[Crasherfromwayback]

Not sure, similar time, but my understanding was lil John took the suzuki out the back and revs its nuts off for a few minutes until it blew up.
.

Think he revved the nuts off it and stomped it into gear without the clutch a couple of times to destroy it after finishing badly on it.

[husaberg]

Think he revved the nuts off it and stomped it into gear without the clutch a couple of times to destroy it after finishing badly on it.

Not sure ,i have read quite a few different accounts, but yes he was know to be a little impetuous.
Shame, as his attitude rather than talent prevented him from winning a lot more championships.
The RGV250 wasn't a total dog either, Kevin when asked to ride it posted some very good times on it.
That said, no one else could do well on it though. A private Aprilia was faster.

[Crasherfromwayback]

The RGV250 wasn't a total dog either, Kevin when asked to ride it posted some very good times on it.
That said, no one else could do well on it though. A private Aprilia was faster.

Didn't Troy Bayliss get a wild car on it at the Australian GP and finish 8th or summat pretty good for a first time out? Or am I confusing that with Crafar?

[husaberg]

Didn't Troy Bayliss get a wild car on it at the Australian GP and finish 8th or summat pretty good for a first time out? Or am I confusing that with Crafar?

I don't recall that, i remember Micks brother Scott Doohan getting one somewhere.
Garry McCoy got one in the 125 and did very well before fading out for a few years then returning as a total wildman
Magee was robbed of his career, for unknown reasons on one.
His results (when given a ride) were better than anyone that replaced him.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I don't recall that, .

Bayliss and the RGV250. Thought it was Johnnys one...obviously not.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy_Bayliss

[husaberg]

Bayliss and the RGV250. Thought it was Johnnys one...obviously not.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy_Bayliss

Jamie Robinson rode one for a year.
There is a guy that f-ed up when given a oportunity by Kenny Roberts,
He was given a test during some euro race and crashed it.
Kenny just walked past him in the pits muttered something along the lines of Cocksucker and walked off.

[James Deuce]

Magee was robbed of his career, for unknown reasons on one.

Magee fucked Bubba Shobert up at a time when it was politically indiscreet to threaten US involvement in top level GP racing. What he did to cause that accident was indescribably stupid. The punishment was out of all proportion though.

[husaberg]

Magee fucked Bubba Shobert up at a time when it was politically indiscreet to threaten US involvement in top level GP racing. What he did to cause that accident was indescribably stupid. The punishment was out of all proportion though.

Yeah I vaguely remembered it but thought it was much earlier, but yes it was at the same time highly likely what caused him to fall out of favour with Kenny.
It sickening to watch even now. But you can see his immediate remorse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIt3bLNb9Y8

[jasonu]

But how many incredibly talented kids, will never get the chance to be world champion, as the doors don't get opened for them.

Like me???

[jasonu]

Didn't Troy Bayliss get a wild car on it at the Australian GP and finish 8th or summat pretty good for a first time out? Or am I confusing that with Crafar?

Yep Bayliss in '97ish. He was dead slow on the straights but did a lot of wicked out braking and out cornering. It was just after that race (got noticed on the world stage) he got his world super bike seat.

[jasonu]

I don't recall that, i remember Micks brother Scott Doohan getting one somewhere.
Garry McCoy got one in the 125 and did very well before fading out for a few years then returning as a total wildman
Magee was robbed of his career, for unknown reasons on one.
His results (when given a ride) were better than anyone that replaced him.

Kevin Magee smashed his head in the Laguna Seca GP. Didn't see much of him in GP's after that. IIRC another prominent Aussie (Gardener maybe) was also hurt on the same corner that had white painted lines on the racing line.

[jasonu]

Magee fucked Bubba Shobert up at a time when it was politically indiscreet to threaten US involvement in top level GP racing. What he did to cause that accident was indescribably stupid. The punishment was out of all proportion though.

Shobert publically took the blame for that one.

[Metastable]

Odd. The most entitled brat to ever race Moto GP, is a certain Mr Rossi. Same goes for the crying like a bitch...

Maybe entitled is the wrong word here.... what would you call a rider who purposely sandbags in order to prevent another rider from finishing higher up in the standings? All the while.... allowing a rider from a rival manufacturer to take victory unchallenged? To be honest..... not even sure what that word might be. A rider with:
- Poor sportsmanship
- Unethical work ethic towards his team


I never saw Mr. Rossi do anything like that. He always did his best and didn't purposely go out of his way just to slow down another rider. Yup entitled is the wrong word..... not that it doesn't fit MM .... it just doesn't explain the full story.

Regarding getting a chance to race in GPs.... sure some guys have had doors open for them. Spanish riders have some of the WIDEST doors open for them because they have a development program geared towards getting kids to high level racing. As a whole very few countries actually have this kind of a development program. Also, Spanish and Italian passports have always been favoured in GP racing. That's one of the reasons I have always liked seeing non-Europeans winning races. Jack Miller winning - awesome.... Cruthchlow - awesome (OK European, but not from mainland Europe).

[KawasakiKid]

Odd. The most entitled brat to ever race Moto GP, is a certain Mr Rossi. Same goes for the crying like a bitch...


Yeah I would. How many GP doors opened for Aaron Slight?


But even at a lesser level it goes on. Always will. I was never given a bike to race, but lots pf people way slower that I had 'em handed to them on a platter.

.

Are you always such a cunt? ......actually reading more of your posts the answer is obvious.

And as for Aaron Slight, a great rider who could never challenge Fogarty mentally.

Maybe your potential sponsors read you well and didn't wish to be associated with you.

[jasonu]

Odd. The most entitled brat to ever race Moto GP, is a certain Mr Rossi. Same goes for the crying like a bitch...


Are you always such a cunt? ......actually reading more of your posts the answer is obvious.

And as for Aaron Slight, a great rider who could never challenge Fogarty mentally.

Maybe your potential sponsors read you well and didn't wish to be associated with you.
325011 Crasher you got bitched out by a dago!!!!!

[Crasherfromwayback]

Are you always such a cunt? ......actually reading more of your posts the answer is obvious.

And as for Aaron Slight, a great rider who could never challenge Fogarty mentally.

Maybe your potential sponsors read you well and didn't wish to be associated with you.

If you'd like to see a cunt, check a mirror fuckface. As for Fogarty...yeah, he showed Aaron REAL good when they were team mates on the RC45 eh! So yeah, went like a sniveling bitch back to the bike that was 250cc bigger to beat him again. What a hero!

As for sponsors, I didn't need 'em to win. Just would've made it cheaper. But I'm not expecting you to know anything about that. Because you're too busy tonguing Fogartys butthole to actually race motorcycles.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Crasher you got bitched out by a dago!!!!!

Fogarty's BF no less.

[KawasakiKid]

If you'd like to see a cunt, check a mirror fuckface. As for Fogarty...yeah, he showed Aaron REAL good when they were team mates on the RC45 eh! So yeah, went like a sniveling bitch back to the bike that was 250cc bigger to beat him again. What a hero!

As for sponsors, I didn't need 'em to win. Just would've made it cheaper. But I'm not expecting you to know anything about that. Because you're too busy tonguing Fogartys butthole to actually race motorcycles.

Actually I've been involved with motorcycle racing for over 45 years, as a racer (winning in roadrace, mx and drag racing incl 2 World records) trainer, organiser and sponsor. You should make an attempt to know your target when you make wild statements.

I am very fortunate to know (or have known) many of the great racers from Hailwood to the present Aliens. I am proud to say I even raced against the GOAT Mike Hailwood.....yes and I lost, but no shame in that.

So are the present racers better than Mike or Ago ?? I don't think so, particularly with all the electronic aids. Today all the MotoGP racers are incredible riders, most of them good sportsmen...but money rules GPs in all forms now, if you think otherwise you are a fool.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Actually I've been involved with motorcycle racing for over 45 years, as a racer (winning in roadrace, mx and drag racing incl 2 World records) trainer, organiser and sponsor. You should make an attempt to know your target when you make wild statements.

I am very fortunate to know (or have known) many of the great racers from Hailwood to the present Aliens. I am proud to say I even raced against the GOAT Mike Hailwood.....yes and I lost, but no shame in that.

So are the present racers better than Mike or Ago ?? I don't think so, particularly with all the electronic aids. Today all the MotoGP racers are incredible riders, most of them good sportsmen...but money rules GPs in all forms now, if you think otherwise you are a fool.

Good for you. The fastest homosexual in the world is not a record I could compete for.

And for the record numnuts...where did I mention anything about the current crop being better than the old school crew? Mick Doohan is THE man in my eyes. No TC there. And it's awesome that Mike the Bike blew you away. That's something I have over you then. I've beaten a reg IOM champion many times. Another thing Limpdick...I still work in the motorcycle industry after 30 years, and am still being head hunted by other shops. Must be doing something right.

So go fuck yourself.

[jasonu]

Actually I've been involved with motorcycle racing for over 45 years, as a racer (winning in roadrace, mx and drag racing incl 2 World records) trainer, organiser and sponsor. You should make an attempt to know your target when you make wild statements.

I am very fortunate to know (or have known) many of the great racers from Hailwood to the present Aliens. I am proud to say I even raced against the GOAT Mike Hailwood.....yes and I lost, but no shame in that.

So are the present racers better than Mike or Ago ?? I don't think so, particularly with all the electronic aids. Today all the MotoGP racers are incredible riders, most of them good sportsmen...but money rules GPs in all forms now, if you think otherwise you are a fool.

Who are you? Reveal yourself!

[KawasakiKid]

Good for you. The fastest homosexual in the world is not a record I could compete for.

And for the record numnuts...where did I mention anything about the current crop being better than the old school crew? Mick Doohan is THE man in my eyes. No TC there. And it's awesome that Mike the Bike blew you away. That's something I have over you then. I've beaten a reg IOM champion many times. Another thing Limpdick...I still work in the motorcycle industry after 30 years, and am still being head hunted by other shops. Must be doing something right.

So go fuck yourself.

I think you need to see a psychiatrist. You obviously have a passion for calling people homosexuals. Maybe you were dropped on your head as a baby

[KawasakiKid]

Who are you? Reveal yourself!

No sorry, I stay as a keyboard warrior

[Crasherfromwayback]

I think you need to see a psychiatrist. You obviously have a passion for calling people homosexuals. Maybe you were dropped on your head as a baby

It's actually the first time I've used that word today. Seemed a good fit.


No sorry, I stay as a keyboard warrior

So lets get this straight. You come on here, randomly call me a cunt, tell me no wonder I don't have sponsors, as they've obviously seen my conduct here, yet refuse to reveal your indentity, so you can randomly call people cunts, hiding behind your screen name, in case you get in trouble?

So you are indeed a cunt, as well as a homosexual. Hypocritical to boot.

[KawasakiKid]

It's actually the first time I've used that word today. Seemed a good fit.



So lets get this straight. You come on here, randomly call me a cunt, tell me no wonder I don't have sponsors, as they've obviously seen my conduct here, yet refuse to reveal your indentity, so you can randomly call people cunts, hiding behind your screen name, in case you get in trouble?

So you are indeed a cunt, as well as a homosexual. Hypocritical to boot.

I never said I wasn't a cunt.....better to be a cunt and know it than an idiot and have no fucking idea.

I think I'm done with this, you can play on if you wish

[Crasherfromwayback]

I never said I wasn't a cunt.....better to be a cunt and know it than an idiot and have no fucking idea.

I think I'm done with this, you can play on if you wish

You've got all three bases covered.

Call again.

[Reckless]

There is far too much sense and reasoned thought being cast in this thread.
I'm really beginning to doubt Im logging on to Kiwibiker:crazy::eek5:

Further to my last post in here:pinch:

Aahhh yep Kiwibiker it is :brick: :nya: :yes: :calm:

[Dadpole]

Aahhh yep Kiwibiker it is :brick: :nya: :yes: :calm:

Meanwhile: In a Galaxy far, far away a MotoGP race is set to break out this weekend. Any brave picks?

[george formby]

Further to my last post in here:pinch:

Aahhh yep Kiwibiker it is :brick: :nya: :yes: :calm:

I'm chuckling. SNAFU.

Re one of the recent posts. I think the modern vernacular would be "tossing Fogarty's salad".

Just sayin.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Meanwhile: In a Galaxy far, far away a MotoGP race is set to break out this weekend. Any brave picks?

Pedro.

MM.

Rossi.

Crazy Joe.

Lorenzo.

[Drew]

Pedro.

MM.

Rossi.

Crazy Joe.

Lorenzo.That's a big call chief. Gotta be worth a cheeky $20 at the TAB if you're confident.

[Dadpole]

Brave call on Pedrosa there. I would be inclined to agree given his recent form. I may reconsider later due to weather though..:crazy:

[Crasherfromwayback]

That's a big call chief. Gotta be worth a cheeky $20 at the TAB if you're confident.

Dirty cunts won't let you box bets on Moto GP unfortunately.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Brave call on Pedrosa there. I would be inclined to agree given his recent form. I may reconsider later due to weather though..:crazy:

Yeah often rains there I guess. But I doubt MM will want to toss it away in front of Mr Honda at his track. Better to show you've matured and have the eyes on the grand prize which he can win at PI instead!

[jasonu]

Dirty cunts won't let you box bets on Moto GP unfortunately.

Is everyone a cunt to you?:msn-wink:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Is everyone a cunt to you?:msn-wink:

Workshop language mate. You know how it is. Dopey cunt.

[pritch]

Pedro.

MM.

Rossi.

Crazy Joe.

Lorenzo.

Motegi like PI can be a bit changeable temperature wise. Pedro might be a good pick at Sepang but...

JL

MM

VR

DP

MV

If it rains though???

Bring it on!

[husaberg]

Are you always such a cunt? ......actually reading more of your posts the answer is obvious.

And as for Aaron Slight, a great rider who could never challenge Fogarty mentally.

Maybe your potential sponsors read you well and didn't wish to be associated with you.

whoo there...
Fogarty could never match Aarron on the same bike, neither could Polen for that matter.
Both were flattered by their Ducatis.

[boman]

Gotta agree with this statement. I'm generally a Rossi fan and would love to see him get 10. And havent been a MM fan in the past.
But the way he held his head and handled things after being knocked of the track by Rossi last year and the way he had ridden and managed this season you gotta give the boy credit he's the best rider out there ATM.
Even if the rest of the races become predictable we have had one of the best seasons ever Dorna got it pretty well right with all these changes :)
Grudgingly: MM for Champ the little shit deserves it!
Rossi second and DP to overtake JL in the standings :msn-wink:

I echo what he has said. MM has ridden with a mature head upon his shoulders this year.

[BMWST?]

Maybe entitled is the wrong word here.... what would you call a rider who purposely sandbags in order to prevent another rider from finishing higher up in the standings? All the while.... allowing a rider from a rival manufacturer to take victory unchallenged? To be honest..... not even sure what that word might be. A rider with:
- Poor sportsmanship
- Unethical work ethic towards his team


I never saw Mr. Rossi do anything like that. He always did his best and didn't purposely go out of his way just to slow down another rider. Yup entitled is the wrong word..... not that it doesn't fit MM .... it just doesn't explain the full story.

Regarding getting a chance to race in GPs.... sure some guys have had doors open for them. Spanish riders have some of the WIDEST doors open for them because they have a development program geared towards getting kids to high level racing. As a whole very few countries actually have this kind of a development program. Also, Spanish and Italian passports have always been favoured in GP racing. That's one of the reasons I have always liked seeing non-Europeans winning races. Jack Miller winning - awesome.... Cruthchlow - awesome (OK European, but not from mainland Europe).
sand bags by winning the australian GP ?The whoel thing is a figment of someones over active imagination .I ceased having any respect for VR when he bulldozed Sete Gibernau of the track.He didnt even try to be subtle about that one.

[Crasherfromwayback]

sand bags by winning the australian GP ?The whoel thing is a figment of someones over active imagination .I ceased having any respect for VR when he bulldozed Sete Gibernau of the track.He didnt even try to be subtle about that one.

You're wasting your time mate. They're all that fucking blind to his blatant on track indiscretions it's not even fucking funny.

[pritch]

Iannone declared unfit and will not race at Motegi.

Yamaha have apparently announced Lorenzo will not be given dispensation to test Ducati at Valencia. Your conspiracy theories are invited... :whistle:

[Metastable]

sand bags by winning the australian GP ?The whoel thing is a figment of someones over active imagination .I ceased having any respect for VR when he bulldozed Sete Gibernau of the track.He didnt even try to be subtle about that one.

Can't say what Rossi did to Sete was cool. Just like the way Loris Capirossi won his 250 title was a disgrace (go check the last lap of the last race.... I think it was 2 or 3 corners ... maybe the last corer? from the end). Or why did Hopkins get penalized so badly for a turn 1 pile-up when I believe Capirossi did the same thing a year or two previously.

Hey no doubt - if you are a big name with an Italian or Spanish passport..... you get away with a lot more stuff.

However, if you don't think MM was sandbagging at Phillip Island or at Sepang..... not sure if you watched the races. How did MM all the sudden pick up so much pace at Phillip Island at the end of the race? He just found his mojo all the sudden?

[jasonu]

Yamaha have apparently announced Lorenzo will not be given dispensation to test Ducati at Valencia. Your conspiracy theories are invited... :whistle:

Why would that be a conspiracy? He is still on the Yamaha payroll after all.

[swarfie]

.I ceased having any respect for VR when he bulldozed Sete Gibernau of the track.He didnt even try to be subtle about that one.


You're wasting your time mate. They're all that fucking blind to his blatant on track indiscretions it's not even fucking funny.

MM has my vote to take the title this year. He's been riding with a good head on his shoulders and after that shit with VR last year he deserves to stick it up him. I wouldn't mind VR getting his ten either but the dickhead lost my respect with his selfish BS.
Bring it on....

[roogazza]

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/234293/1/japanese-motogp-tv-coverage.html

[Dadpole]

Selfish?

Entertain me with a list of current MotoGP riders who would not feed their grannies through a mincer to get the title.

For me only Hayden, Pedro and Bautista. Possibly Petrucci as he would have to arrest himself.

[pritch]

Why would that be a conspiracy? He is still on the Yamaha payroll after all.

The factories have normally permitted the departing rider to test for their new factory following the last race. Yamaha permitted Rossi to test the Ducati but have apparently said they will not permit Lorenzo to do the same. I'm not sure of the legal niceties but assume that permission is required because riders are contracted to the end of the year as you say.

Theories advanced so far include, but are not limited to:
Lorenzo has pissed off someone at Yamaha, or
Ducati have pissed off someone at Yamaha, or
Yamaha are concerned at how good Lorenzo will be on the Ducati.

Having invested $20,000,000 or whatever in Lorenzo, it is safe to bet that Ducati are also concerned how good he will be.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Pedro.

MM.

Rossi.

Crazy Joe.

Lorenzo.

Now that Joe is out...

Pedro.

MM.

Rossi.

Lorenzo.

Dovi.

[Dadpole]

I would put it down to a total breakdown between Yamaha and Lorenzo. He has all but said that they had 'done the dirty' on him after the Sepang shambles and he cannot trust them. I think Yamaha see it as a way to have him leave with a boot print on his arse.

Crasher will think Rossi was behind it. :dodge:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Crasher will think Rossi was behind it. :dodge:

Nah. Lorenzo's needed no help in burning bridges mate!

[roogazza]

Rossi's gunna have to try and make MM fight (which should be easy ?).
As I think Crasher said, can rain there a lot? Hope there are no f..ken pit stops.

Go Vale !!!!!!!! :shifty:

[Crasherfromwayback]

However, if you don't think MM was sandbagging at Phillip Island or at Sepang..... not sure if you watched the races. How did MM all the sudden pick up so much pace at Phillip Island at the end of the race? He just found his mojo all the sudden?

MM stated he had some moments from the front tyre mid race, so slowed a lil to conserve it. Hardly a new tactic there. Come the end of the race, he had enough tyre to go hard, and go hard he did. End of story really. Unless you believe everyone that beat Rossi last year (and the list is quite a long one) was out to help Lorenzo win the title. I somehow doubt that. :facepalm:

[jasonu]

Workshop language mate. You know how it is. Dopey cunt.

We Americans (and The Donald) prefer the term 'locker room banter'.

[Crasherfromwayback]

We Americans (and The Donald) prefer the term 'locker room banter'.

Long as you don't try and grab me pussy!

[trustme]

Long as you don't try and grab me pussy!


Wot . that dried old prune , so Drew tells me :msn-wink:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Wot . that dried old prune , so Drew tells me :msn-wink:

Nothing a bit of saliva wouldn't fix!

[jasonu]

Wot . that dried old prune , so Drew tells me :msn-wink:

Apparently it is like pulling apart a chest toasted sandwich :niceone:

[Drew]

The fuck? How am I being included in this?

[george formby]

A chest toasted sandwich?

I need to check the urban dictionary when I pluck up the courage.

[Drew]

A chest toasted sandwich?

I need to check the urban dictionary when I pluck up the courage.
Gotta be better than the mental image of cheese to astir like box.

[george formby]

Gotta be better than the mental image of cheese to astir like box.

Front or rear cleavage, either way sounds very nasty.

Oh. We have racing this weekend!!!!!!!

[mulletman]

Hecter Barbera gets AI's ride this weekend, lucky him.

[mulletman]

And an aussie gets Hecters - Mike Jones

[Dadpole]

Weather looks to be good.

Wouldn't you love to see Suzuki win? Honda would not be amused.

[pritch]

Troy Bayliss describes how Mike Jones got the news.

"Long night last night , Mike was down at Phillip Island to spin some Laps on the DesmoSport Ducati in prep for next weeks support races at Australian Moto GP, an early bed type of person he was woken by hotel Manager to switch his phone on and call me , I gave him the news the same way as Davide gave me the news back in 2000 for Sugo , I said your going to Japan , flights at 6 to brisbane, get someone to bring your passport and the your going to Tokyo, driver will be there, the rest will be sorted, a nice little surprise but a tough one, I'm confident that Mike will work his way into it and treat it as an opportunity to show his talent and professional approach to the challenge ahead , great to see Avintia Ducati give an Ozzy a shot , thanks guys and good luck to Mad Mike Jones , TB21"

[pritch]

Oh. We have racing this weekend!!!!!!!

Yes and at much more friendly times of day too. The next three races are as civilised as it gets for us.

[ecko_nzed]

And Smith fit enough to get on his bike. Crasher, you must be worried 😟

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk

[Crasherfromwayback]

And Smith fit enough to get on his bike. Crasher, you must be worried 😟

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk

Looking forward to my beers mate!

[Crasherfromwayback]

Hecter Barbera gets AI's ride this weekend, lucky him.

And he's paying $301.00 at the TAB. Worth wasting ten dollars on him.

[Dadpole]

Pedrosa out with a fractured collarbone. Will probably miss the next three races. :weep:

Poor guy looked like he was fired from a cannon. Nasty...

[pritch]

Pedrosa out with a fractured collarbone. Will probably miss the next three races. :weep:

Poor guy looked like he was fired from a cannon. Nasty...

Sorry to read that. For a little guy he sure hits the deck hard.

[Dadpole]

Sorry to read that. For a little guy he sure hits the deck hard.

He keeps getting up though. Certainly is a tough little chap.

[jasonu]

Pedrosa out with a fractured collarbone. Will probably miss the next three races. :weep:

Poor guy looked like he was fired from a cannon. Nasty...


4m 22seconds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWNoN4I8nFU

[EJK]

Dovi
Rossi
Lorenzo

Pity now Pedro is out :no:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Jarvis comes across as a queer cunt.

http://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2016/10/14/jarvis-this-is-not-only-a-sport-this-is-a-business/212679

[pritch]

Jarvis comes across as a queer cunt.



I didn't see the interview but he never struck me as a ball of fun, just seems a bit sour.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I didn't see the interview but he never struck me as a ball of fun, just seems a bit sour.

Full of shit by the look of it too.

[Mental Trousers]

Jarvis comes across as a queer cunt.



I didn't see the interview but he never struck me as a ball of fun, just seems a bit sour.

He never seems to be popular with anyone, but he does get results.

[boman]

Lorenzo on his way to Hospital after huge crash.

[ellipsis]

...Lorenzo just gained a big + in my eyes...but I still Love :love:#46:love:...

[Dadpole]

With the benefit of having watched Q2:

VR
MM
AD

And hats off to Mike Jones. A sterling effort for someone dropped in like that.

[ellipsis]

And hats off to Mike Jones. A sterling effort for someone dropped in like that.


...I reckon...in fact I just threw my hat across the room , on your instigation...

[EJK]

Héctor Barberá seems pretty quick now that he is on GP16 Ducati. I'm going to keep an eye on him tomorrow.

Barberá for 2019?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Héctor Barberá seems pretty quick now that he is on GP16 Ducati. I'm going to keep an eye on him tomorrow.

Barberá for 2019?

Not even. I put a lazy $10.00 on him because I can afford to lose it (just).

MM will do the bizz now DP is out.

[Autech]

Fer fohks sake Dani! Its a motorcycle not a cannon.

Had hope for a repeat of last years win but oh well.




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[jasonu]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UpKhB9z48E

It'll buff out...

[Crasherfromwayback]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UpKhB9z48E

It'll buff out...

I laugh at the haters that call him a pussy. He's actually one of the hardest men out there.

[Dadpole]

And Lorenzo came back to qualify in P3. I bet he is hurting this morning though.

A pic of his helmet (NOT that one you perverts) https://twitter.com/M_Turco/status/787121552575729664/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

[Moise]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UpKhB9z48E

It'll buff out...
2 high sides already? WTF is going on?

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[Dadpole]

Both were off throttle. Traction control can't cut the power if none is being used (stupid electronics)

[Autech]

Go Ono!

Love seeing a home victory


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[Autech]

Anyone else remember when moto2 was moto3 but on steroids?

Yaaawwwnnn!


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[Autech]

Final rant, that fucking Harris needs to be put to pasture. AS fucking P


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[Autech]

Go MM for the championship


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[Autech]

Holy fuck!


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[speights_bud]

It's a conspiracy! Lorenzo 'crashed' so MM could win the championship

[speights_bud]

Final rant, that fucking Harris needs to be put to pasture. AS fucking P


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Apparently Hector B rides for Yamaha now....

[pritch]

Talk about the curse of the commentator... :facepalm:

[EJK]

So much heartache :(

I actually feel sorry for Lorenzo now.

[Moise]

Aliens 1, Michelin 3. Pleased for Marquez and Honda, but what a shit way to end the Championship.

Maybe Bridgestone could make the fronts and Michelin the rears???

[speights_bud]

Aliens 1, Michelin 3. Pleased for Marquez and Honda, but what a shit way to end the Championship.

Maybe Bridgestone could make the fronts and Michelin the rears???
I noticed that MM was getting lean angles out to 60deg again. They weren't getting anywhere near that in the early part of the season. In fact I don't think we've even seen that graphic in a while?
For the lean angles to be coming back would indicate that the teams are starting to get their heads around the new tyres. Next year will really tell because they will have good base setups for each track.

(Disclaimer : Michelins are still shit)

[Moise]

I noticed that MM was getting lean angles out to 60deg again. They weren't getting anywhere near that in the early part of the season. In fact I don't think we've even seen that graphic in a while?
For the lean angles to be coming back would indicate that the teams are starting to get their heads around the new tyres. Next year will really tell because they will have good base setups for each track.

(Disclaimer : Michelins are still shit)
Good point, JL and MM were regularly 60+ degrees on Bridgestones. Rossi was pushing, as he had to finish at least ahead of Marquez, and maybe JL was affected by his crash in FP3. But what happened to Dani???

[speights_bud]

Good point, JL and MM were regularly 60+ degrees on Bridgestones. Rossi was pushing, as he had to finish at least ahead of Marquez, and maybe JL was affected by his crash in FP3. But what happened to Dani???
Go back a page or 2....

[Crasherfromwayback]

Aliens 1, Michelin 3. Pleased for Marquez and Honda, but what a shit way to end the Championship.

Maybe Bridgestone could make the fronts and Michelin the rears???

Piss off Knobjob. The change to Michelin has made this season better than many.

MM. 5 titles in 7 years. Barring injury or burnout...Rossi's 9 will get blown away.

[Moise]

Piss off Knobjob. The change to Michelin has made this season better than many.

MM. 5 titles in 7 years. Barring injury or burnout...Rossi's 9 will get blown away.
Marquez is exceptional. But where's the fun watching riders crash instead of racing? Or maybe you enjoy that?

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[Crasherfromwayback]

Marquez is exceptional. But where's the fun watching riders crash instead of racing? Or maybe you enjoy that?

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How old are you? It's called racing fuck knuckle. As long as people have been racing motorcycles, they've been crashing the cunting things. How many races has MM lost due to crashing this season?

It's called pushing the envelope. Pressure does funny things to people, as does a rush of blood to the head. MM has curbed the flow to the brain...the others have felt the pressure.

The change to Michelin has been fantastic. Each and every week, there's been the option of two or three diff tyre choices...some which work for some better than others. It's added another dimension to the races compared to the Bridgestone days, where every rider had the same tyre option fitted.

So very sorry if I find that interesting and an improvement to the spectacle.

Meantime...go wank yourself with a cheese grater.

[speights_bud]

Have to agree with crasher here.

Michelin have done a great job to get the tyres working for the riders, and also offer different options. With the electronic changes as well it must have been a nightmare for crews to set up the first few rounds.

I do appreciate that michelin appear to be more transparent with the tyres performance. Riders seem to be able to make comments good and bad
without being fined. Unlike Bridgestone where you were never allowed to blame the tyres...

[Crasherfromwayback]

Have to agree with crasher here.

Michelin have done a great job to get the tyres working for the riders, and also offer different options. With the electronic changes as well it must have been a nightmare for crews to set up the first few rounds.

I do appreciate that michelin appear to be more transparent with the tyres performance. Riders seem to be able to make comments good and bad
without being fined. Unlike Bridgestone where you were never allowed to blame the tyres...

Yeah...I mean...we've had what...eight different winners this season already? And Michelin should get fucked?? What a retarded fucking view. I take my hat of to Michelin. How many years out of Moto GP? And their last season hardly went well for them. So to come back into it, and break some very old lap records? Quite fucking amazing really.

But fuck all that. How good is MM seriously??? I saw slow mos this morning during warm up...and he was on the front tyre for over 100m at times heading into the corners.

[speights_bud]

Yeah...I mean...we've had what...eight different winners this season already? And Michelin should get fucked?? What a retarded fucking view. I take my hat of to Michelin. How many years out of Moto GP? And their last season hardly went well for them. So to come back into it, and break some very old lap records? Quite fucking amazing really.

But fuck all that. How good is MM seriously??? I saw slow mos this morning during warm up...and he was on the front tyre for over 100m at times heading into the corners.
Godly Springs to mind....

I wonder if his pit crew are lining up to get MM93 tattoos....

[Crasherfromwayback]

Godly Springs to mind....

I wonder if his pit crew are lining up to get MM93 tattoos....

I hope not. Leave that shit to the arse lickers garage.

[speights_bud]

I hope not. Leave that shit to the arse lickers garage.
It's bad enough his boyfriend has one, but I cringed when I saw one of the other mechanics flaunting one as well.

[Crasherfromwayback]

It's bad enough his boyfriend has one, but I cringed when I saw one of the other mechanics flaunting one as well.

I so can't understand that shit. Fuck me...I love my GF to death, sleep with her every night (lucky girl), but I'm not going to tattoo her cell phone number onto my body. What the fuck is wrong with those cunts? Imagine what Rossi saves on toilet paper every year!!!

[speights_bud]

I so can't understand that shit. Fuck me...I love my GF to death, sleep with her every night (lucky girl), but I'm not going to tattoo her cell phone number onto my body. What the fuck is wrong with those cunts? Imagine what Rossi saves on toilet paper every year!!!
Maybe it stops the other boys from taking his toys home by mistake...

[jasonu]

How old are you? It's called racing fuck knuckle. As long as people have been racing motorcycles, they've been crashing the cunting things. How many races has MM lost due to crashing this season?

It's called pushing the envelope. Pressure does funny things to people, as does a rush of blood to the head. MM has curbed the flow to the brain...the others have felt the pressure.

The change to Michelin has been fantastic. Each and every week, there's been the option of two or three diff tyre choices...some which work for some better than others. It's added another dimension to the races compared to the Bridgestone days, where every rider had the same tyre option fitted.

So very sorry if I find that interesting and an improvement to the spectacle.

Meantime...go wank yourself with a cheese grater.

Maybe crashing should be banned. Participation trophies for all!!!!!

[Crasherfromwayback]

Maybe crashing should be banned. Participation trophies for all!!!!!

Meantime...something for the Haters.

http://superbikeplanet.com/2016/Oct/161016quotemac.htm

[Drew]

As my heart sank watching Rossi waiting to be saved from under his bike, something occurred to me. So I'll put it out for discussion and ridicule from you lot.

We've seen time and time again what happens when an alien throws a leg over a GP bike. They crash their brains out.

Jorge

Stoner

Rossi

Marquez

They all crashed quite a bit as they learned the limits of these beasts.

Is Rossi going through this a second time, due to having had to completely rewrite how he rides/races?

Marquez changed the game in much the same way Doohan did. He tamed the beast into sumission, rather than learn to do what everyone else does.

I'll have to wait a year for my answer proper, but there's fuck all else to ponder this season.

[ellipsis]

As my heart sank watching Rossi waiting to be saved from under his bike, something occurred to me. So I'll put it out for discussion and ridicule from you lot.

We've seen time and time again what happens when an alien throws a leg over a GP bike. They crash their brains out.

Jorge

Stoner

Rossi

Marquez

They all crashed quite a bit as they learned the limits of these beasts.

Is Rossi going through this a second time, due to having had to completely rewrite how he rides/races?

Marquez changed the game in much the same way Doohan did. He tamed the beast into sumission, rather than learn to do what everyone else does.

I'll have to wait a year for my answer proper, but there's fuck all else to ponder this season.


...worth pondering Drew...far better than taking it all so personally and getting yer knickers in a twist...#46 blew it, #99 stepped back up to the plate and blew it in a very brave manner and #93 has proven that he deserved the 2016 title...I'm bitterly disappointed that Vale has to go home beaten but that's racing...always next year for him and despite the reactions of his re-invigorated haters, he proved he still has it...love them all...

[Crasherfromwayback]

..I'm bitterly disappointed that Vale has to go home beaten but that's racing...always next year for him and despite the reactions of his re-invigorated haters, he proved he still has it...love them all...

It's incredible the way the Old Dog has reinvented himself. But I still don't think he has a tenth title in him. Blew that chance last year.

[Drew]

It's incredible the way the Old Dog has reinvented himself. But I still don't think he has a tenth title in him. Blew that chance last year.

I'm inclined to think you're right, but I don't want to accept it just yet. Last year Lorenzo had to catch up, and he did it convincingly. Then more.

Who is on the Suzukis next year?

[EJK]

I'm inclined to think you're right, but I don't want to accept it just yet. Last year Lorenzo had to catch up, and he did it convincingly. Then more.

Who is on the Suzukis next year?

Looking forward to AI and MV team :wings:

[Drew]

Looking forward to AI and MV team :wings:

Iannone and who? Vinales is going Yamaha.

[Autech]

I'm inclined to think you're right, but I don't want to accept it just yet. Last year Lorenzo had to catch up, and he did it convincingly. Then more.

Who is on the Suzukis next year?

Alex Rins (Exciting) and EEEAAAHHHNNOONNEEE (less exciting unless you like watching crashing)

I'm inclined to think the same, with Young Mav on the other Yamaha and MM now showing the maturity to win many more titles it's not going to be easy for him. Throw in the Ducati with JL, DP on the Honda and you have lots of riders able to beat him. The fact that he's still in the equation at all though means that there's a chance he could still do it. I'm not a Rossi fan by any stretch but to see him do 10 would be incredible.

MM still has some learning to do as he's still crashing a lot, which is his strategy apparently, go out in practice and find the limit then never go near it in the race. It works only if you don't hurt yourself, which he has been remarkably fortunate not to have done too often in his career.

I'm still a bit shocked by the wrap up yesterday, if anything could sum up how bizarre this season has been the race yesterday is a great example.

Wonder how Binder likes his new hairdo, found it funny the mechanics caressing his locks in parc ferme. He gave it all to win, love how much he backs that bike in compared to most the other moto3 riders, certainly looks like he's got it on the limit.

If I were to pick a best riders of the the season it would probably have to go to Binder and Bagnia on the Mahindra. He's been up there most the season on the bike with no way near the top end speed of the other bikes. You could see yesterday that as soon as he lost the tow that was it for him. I hope they give him some HP next year if he's sticking around as that package looks good enough to win with him on board.

[pritch]

Is Rossi going through this a second time, due to having had to completely rewrite how he rides/races?


Rossi has said that the crash was unusual, he was doing nothing different but the bike went down.

As for tattoos, young people these days spend big on ink. I used to work near the local WINZ office. You'd see the kids outside, on the dole since they left school, they've got nothing, but they've got tats and they've got piercings. Guess we all have our own priorities, they'd probably think spending money on bikes and riding gear is crazy.

[EJK]

Iannone and who? Vinales is going Yamaha.

Ah crap that's right. It's like tossing salad, everybody is switching seats.

Also going to look out for Johann Zarco and Alex Rins next season.

[Drew]

Stoked Iannone is going Suzuki. He's fast and capable of battling for the win.

[Autech]

Rossi has said that the crash was unusual, he was doing nothing different but the bike went down.



Heard that a few times this year haven't we? His and Lozengers looked like a textbook Mitchie mid corner wash out. Maybe they weren't able to keep the heat into the front like the Honda was?
Rossi knew he needed to beat Marquez and pushed to try to do so, it was a win it or bin it moment for his championship as he couldn't afford to finish behind again. Almost better to do it this way rather than watching him squander away for a few more rounds. Now they can get focused on getting the bike ready for next year in the next few races as the title is sealed.

[Moise]

How old are you? It's called racing fuck knuckle. As long as people have been racing motorcycles, they've been crashing the cunting things. How many races has MM lost due to crashing this season?

It's called pushing the envelope. Pressure does funny things to people, as does a rush of blood to the head. MM has curbed the flow to the brain...the others have felt the pressure.

The change to Michelin has been fantastic. Each and every week, there's been the option of two or three diff tyre choices...some which work for some better than others. It's added another dimension to the races compared to the Bridgestone days, where every rider had the same tyre option fitted.

So very sorry if I find that interesting and an improvement to the spectacle.

Meantime...go wank yourself with a cheese grater.
Disappointing that you can't express an opinion without getting abusive. Not sure what your problem is but don't bother replying.



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[Moise]

Have to agree with crasher here.

Michelin have done a great job to get the tyres working for the riders, and also offer different options. With the electronic changes as well it must have been a nightmare for crews to set up the first few rounds.

I do appreciate that michelin appear to be more transparent with the tyres performance. Riders seem to be able to make comments good and bad
without being fined. Unlike Bridgestone where you were never allowed to blame the tyres...
Agreed, Michelin have put in a huge amount of effort this season. The big test will be PI.

Have a look at Rossi's comments on his crash. He had no warning, just found himself under the bike.

I was just disappointed to see the Championship end like that, especially after the last race at Aragon. Congrats to MM though, some brilliant riding this year plus knowing when to go for the points instead of crashing.

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[Crasherfromwayback]

Disappointing that you can't express an opinion without getting abusive. Not sure what your problem is but don't bother replying.


Harden up Princess. Would you like me to post you a box of tissues?

[jasonu]

Harden up Princess. Would you like me to post you a box of tissues?

You forgot to call him a cunt.

[Brett]

No one can take anything away from MM this season. His performance has been sublime. Sucks for fans to have the season wrapped up already, would have been nice for it to have gone down to the wire, but MM deserved the championship. Simply...you have to finish races to win. Crashes, blown motors...will not win a championship! Also, it's not like the Honda has been flawless; MM had to ride around a fair few challenges at times.

Still a huge Rossi fanboy and always will be, but he was outclassed by MM this year. Hopefully next season will be his turn again! In my heart though, I think that MM is going to be a dominating force for many years to come if he remains in MotoGP. His little blue with Rossi aside, the guy is actually quite good at garnering a support base to. It's impossible not to like the guy.

[Crasherfromwayback]

You forgot to call him a cunt.

No I didn't.

[pritch]

No I didn't.

Well you forgot to call jasonu a cunt. You're slipping. Must need a Steinie :drinkup:

[James Deuce]

Harden up Princess. Would you like me to post you a box of tissues?
That's unkind. Everyone knows you'd post a box of used tissues.

[Oscar]

Harden up Princess. Would you like me to post you a box of tissues?

How come you have spare tissues?
Did you sprain your wrist looking at a CS website?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Well you forgot to call jasonu a cunt.

No I didn't.


That's unkind. Everyone knows you'd post a box of used tissues.

In one big soggy clump.


How come you have spare tissues?
Did you sprain your wrist looking at a CS website?

As if! I left him for MM since ages ago!

Wouldn't mind betting you've gone through a few too, now that your BF has had his arse handed to him on a plate. Again.

[Dave-]

Crasher, do you agree that the quality of Michelin tyres has been inconsistent?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Crasher, do you agree that the quality of Michelin tyres has been inconsistent?

Oh hey, without doubt they've had some rather major issues. But that's hardly surprising really I'd say. But they were having problems in their last season of Moto GP too, and it's hardly a Michelin only issue. You'll recall a certain Phillip Island race being shortened so the tyres would last and not come apart? I think for Old Mate to make a statement like *Fuck Michelin*, shows what a dork he is, and how much he understands the challenge involved for any tyre manufacturer, let alone one coming back into the sport after such a long break.

[Autech]

Oh hey, without doubt they've had some rather major issues. But that's hardly surprising really I'd say. But they were having problems in their last season of Moto GP too, and it's hardly a Michelin only issue. You'll recall a certain Phillip Island race being shortened so the tyres would last and not come apart? I think for Old Mate to make a statement like *Fuck Michelin*, shows what a dork he is, and how much he understands the challenge involved for any tyre manufacturer, let alone one coming back into the sport after such a long break.

Hair hair. The amount of lap records that were demolished this year impressed me immensely as they were fresh into it with shittier electronics. Been a blast to watch these pros adapt their styles to suit the different rubber. With 1 years data under their belt (pun) I think next year they will be going quicker than ever before, just don't tell Mike Webb :D


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[Crasherfromwayback]

Hair hair. The amount of lap records that were demolished this year impressed me immensely as they were fresh into it with shittier electronics. Been a blast to watch these pros adapt their styles to suit the different rubber. With 1 years data under their belt (pun) I think next year they will be going quicker than ever before, just don't tell Mike Webb :D



8 diff winners so far, lap records, many different tyre combos as a legitimate choice (some working better for certain people and bike etc etc) and some fucking incredible racing. So...yeah...fuck Michelin alright. Worst thing that's ever happened to the sport. And as for the crashes! Good Lord! I saw plenty in Moto2 & 3, and they ain't using Michelin. So what does Old Mate think of that then?

[Hemi Makutu]

Has M.M. been ah, doin' - some real hard-on rubber finesse-type throttle-hand learning on the NSR 500?

That would not be breaking the MotoGP 'no unofficial practice' rule, now would it..

I recall that Casey Stoner's major regret was not getting to master a 500 2T...

[Dave-]

Oh hey, without doubt they've had some rather major issues. But that's hardly surprising really I'd say. But they were having problems in their last season of Moto GP too, and it's hardly a Michelin only issue. You'll recall a certain Phillip Island race being shortened so the tyres would last and not come apart? I think for Old Mate to make a statement like *Fuck Michelin*, shows what a dork he is, and how much he understands the challenge involved for any tyre manufacturer, let alone one coming back into the sport after such a long break.

Fair enough, Michelin managed to screw up a whole race too this season through (Argentina) so the scoreboard is equal there before you even mention Danilo's rear tyre earlier in the season, Dani's front tyre later in the season and general grumblings. But let's chalk all of that up to first season 'nerves'; how many more seasons would it be acceptable for the current quality of tyres to continue?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Fair enough, Michelin managed to screw up a whole race too this season through (Argentina) so the scoreboard is equal there before you even mention Danilo's rear tyre earlier in the season, Dani's front tyre later in the season and general grumblings. But let's chalk all of that up to first season 'nerves'; how many more seasons would it be acceptable for the current quality of tyres to continue?

Yeah I hear ya mate. But I repeat...not like Bridgestone haven't had tyres disintergrate eh. As late as last season, after how many years being the control tyre?

[Hemi Makutu]

Fair enough, Michelin managed to screw up a whole race too this season through (Argentina) so the scoreboard is equal there before you even mention Danilo's rear tyre earlier in the season, Dani's front tyre later in the season and general grumblings. But let's chalk all of that up to first season 'nerves'; how many more seasons would it be acceptable for the current quality of tyres to continue?

Japan is a fair distance from the Michelin factory, Japan ( & Oz, too) not so far from Bridgestone's race unit.

Do the fastest laps/average race distances recorded in similar race conditions show the Bibendum blokes, lagging behind?

[ellipsis]

Japan is a fair distance from the Michelin factory, Japan ( & Oz, too) not so far from Bridgestone's race unit.

Do the fastest laps/average race distances recorded in similar race conditions show the Bibendum blokes, lagging behind?


...where's the cypher for your cryptic crap..

[Hemi Makutu]

...where's the cypher for your cryptic crap..

Are you really that dumb-asked?

"Think of the 'Staypuft' marshmallow man & he'll turn up & destroy you"...

[ellipsis]

Are you really that dumb-asked?

"Think of the 'Staypuft' marshmallow man & he'll turn up & destroy you"...


...I will arse my wife if she thinks I'm really that dumb-asked...

[pritch]

325127


...where's the cypher for your cryptic crap..

It all makes sense. If it's the Bibendum reference that caused confusion, that's the name of the Michelin man. Yes he has one. I don't know the exact translation but understand the name is to do with drinking.

[speights_bud]

...I will arse my wife if she thinks I'm really that dumb-asked...

Fucking cringed in the Jetstar termial in Auckland on Saturday. Loudspeaker lady kept Arghk-sking people to bored...

[BMWST?]

fantastic season.How you guys think its been ruined i dont know.If it was ruined it was ruined several races agon when MM got his 48 point lead (or whateva).The only doubt in my mind is when the same michelin tyres have seemed to perform differently.I think they have done a tremendous job.MM has been sublime.I think he will dominate the next couple of years.MV will surely take a season to get to grips fully with the Yamaha.I get the feeling it is not as agile as the Suzuki,and i think MV style needs an agile bike...bring on 2017!

[roogazza]

Austruckinfailure next. Better pray for fine weather,prick of a place for wind too.
Nice track on a fine day.
Will Hayden get into the top ten ? Shame Iannone can't ride.:Punk:

Go Rossi !

[Oscar]

Austruckinfailure next. Better pray for fine weather,prick of a place for wind too.
Nice track on a fine day.
Will Hayden get into the top ten ? Shame Iannone can't ride.:Punk:

Go Rossi !

I'm skipping the Island this year - off to Sepang.
More chance of a lap in the pace car with the younger Espeleto.

[pritch]

Austruckinfailure next. Better pray for fine weather,prick of a place for wind too.

There was a dramatic photo on Twitter last night, very turbulent sky. There will no doubt be lots of changes between now and race day - and possibly on race day.
If they persist with running the races later to meet European TV demand there may well be a dramatic temperature drop during the main race. Again.

[roogazza]

I'm skipping the Island this year - off to Sepang.
More chance of a lap in the pace car with the younger Espeleto.

Nice,I've had the use of an Electric BMW pushbike a fews times but a ride in the pace car would be special. :cool:

[mulletman]

Nicky Hayden gets to ride a full Honda again stepping up for Dani Pedrosa.

[Autech]

Nicky Hayden gets to ride a full Honda again stepping up for Dani Pedrosa.

Cool!

Speaking of whom, nice wee interview from before the big highside.


https://youtu.be/OZu7dclV_iE

[snodpete]

From the Guardian - seagull wrong place wrong time (https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2016/oct/17/nikon-walkley-awards-2016-the-best-photographs#img-10)

[Crasherfromwayback]

More chance of a lap in the pace car with the younger Espeleto.

Trying to make Rossi jealous?

[merv]

Trying to make Rossi jealous?

Nah, Oscar is just showing off as usual trying to make the rest of us jealous just because of who he knows <_<

[Crasherfromwayback]

Nah, Oscar is just showing off as usual trying to make the rest of us jealous just because of who he knows <_<

Not really working.

[EJK]

Underdog Hernandez is downgrading to Moto2 next season :(

I remember him at Dutch TT during the wet race where he led the race for a bit until he crashed out. Was kinda hoping for that man to have better results this season.

[sugilite]

Yikes!
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/motorsport/85513505/Former-world-champion-Wayne-Gardner-in-Japan-jail-after-alleged-road-rage-incident

[jasonu]

Yikes!
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/motorsport/85513505/Former-world-champion-Wayne-Gardner-in-Japan-jail-after-alleged-road-rage-incident

They both should be jailed for shitty hair cuts.

[Dadpole]

Stuff - as usual - are behind the times. The jailing of senior was mentioned during the race commentary. Fairfax must have had a gap on their "news" to fill.

[pritch]

Stuff - as usual - are behind the times. The jailing of senior was mentioned during the race commentary. Fairfax must have had a gap on their "news" to fill.

Ant West had been organised to replace Gardner at Phillip Island which had some OZ fans hoping for a wet race. So Gardner is riding and West is out, but the forecast is wet, wet, wet. But only for Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.

There is hope though, sometimes (?) the forecasters are wrong.

[Oscar]

Nah, Oscar is just showing off as usual trying to make the rest of us jealous just because of who he knows <_<

Oooo you bitch!


Seriously, you should have something done about the sand in your vagina.

[Oscar]

Not really working.

Ohh, I'd never try and impress a grizzled old racer like you.
After all you are the GOAT when it comes to talking a good race....

[ellipsis]

http://www.bom.gov.au/vic/forecasts/melbourne.shtml

http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR023.loop.shtml#skip

http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR021.loop.shtml#skip

http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR02I.loop.shtml#skip

...you could waste your time checking these, but it will probably, blow, rain, shine, the whole weekend, but not necessarily in that order...

[Crasherfromwayback]

Ohh, I'd never try and impress a grizzled old racer like you.
After all you are the GOAT when it comes to talking a good race....

Damn straight. Never won a single race in real life! Oh no...that'd be you.:innocent: