MotoGP 2016

[merv]

I always found Stoner quite humble and to the point and he always talked about "we" to include his team. The "to the point" bit I think was the problem, the Europeans just didn't get his straight faced humour whereas to me as a Kiwi it was spot on particularly the "ambition outweighed your talent" comment which was valid and to the point in the circumstances, and meant to be a wind up, and no matter how insulting Vale's fans thought it was it sure as hell was true that day.

The same type of event occurred when Iannone went under Dovi and took him out - and who is supporting Maniac Joe on that? Nobody!

He would have fitted well back in the days when Croz raced as they could have been two straight talkers together.

[Drew]

I always found Stoner quite humble and to the point and he always talked about "we" to include his team. The "to the point" bit I think was the problem, the Europeans just didn't get his straight faced humour whereas to me as a Kiwi it was spot on particularly the "ambition outweighed your talent" comment which was valid and to the point in the circumstances, and meant to be a wind up, and no matter how insulting Vale's fans thought it was it sure as hell was true that day.

The same type of event occurred when Iannone went under Dovi and took him out - and who is supporting Maniac Joe on that? Nobody!

He would have fitted well back in the days when Croz raced as they could have been two straight talkers together.The day of the 'ambition' comment, was the only time I saw Rossi on form on the Ducati. He'd caught up a fuck ton the lap previous and was gonna get past Stoner who was having a shit time in the rain on the Honda. Rossi fucked up by coming from too far back, but he was gonna roost Stoner that day.

[Crasherfromwayback]

He'd caught up a fuck ton the lap previous and was gonna get past Stoner who was having a shit time in the rain on the Honda. Rossi fucked up by coming from too far back, but he was gonna roost Stoner that day.

Bullshit. Stoner was just waiting for the tyres to come in. Never seen what Stoner did to them at Silverstone in the rain mate?

[Reckless]

So the press conference went well with all concerned being very diplomatic about the new signings.

Last night Twitter started out calm enough.

Lorenzo and Marquez are to have bodyguards at Mugello. The jury is out as to whether that's a Dorna overeaction or whether it's better to be safe than sorry. There have been bodyguards before. Degner had one after defecting to the west from East Germany. Biaggi once had a couple dressed as Roman gladiators apparently, and of course Simoncelli had a huge Police presence including bodyguards at Jerez after he'd received death threats.

Petrucci says his injury is still not healed but has the advantage that he can now forecast the weather by the pain in his wrist.

Casey Stoner popped up and said that Rossi should show sportmanship and ask his fans not to boo Lorenzo and Marquez. And the shit hit the fan.
Uproar in cyberspace. One of the anti-Rossi fans objected to the flak Stoner was receiving. So I had a look. It's huge. Some of it is genuinely funny but some is just nasty. Like me, many wonder when Stoner became an expert on sportsmanship. Some ask where this sportsmanship was when he punched DePuniet. Many suggest he should stick to fishing. (That's the polite version.)

For the record, Rossi in an interview in Italian had asked the fans to show respect to all of the riders.

That's it, I'm going back to read Stoner's mail.

Seen all the first bit Pritch and watched the entire interview on GP.com but did see any stoner action?? When did this happen or did they cut it out??

[Drew]

Bullshit. Stoner was just waiting for the tyres to come in. Never seen what Stoner did to them at Silverstone in the rain mate?

Not what it looked like to me. Wets don't 'come in', on that track they would have been well optimal for turn one lap two.

I'm not saying he was no good in the wet, but that day it was far from coming together I think.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Not what it looked like to me. Wets don't 'come in', on that track they would have been well optimal for turn one lap two.

.

The wets I've raced on sure as fuck did. Mind you...I wasn't using tyre warmers! Rossi is no wet weather expert mate, despite what the fans think.

[Drew]

The wets I've raced on sure as fuck did. Mind you...I wasn't using tyre warmers! Rossi is no wet weather expert mate, despite what the fans think.I remember an interview with Colin Edwards talking about wets. He reckoned after the first lap, you knew what ya had untill the tyres wore out or the track dried.

My memory is that Rossi was only ever beatable in the wet for three seasons straight, because he was average as hell.

[pritch]

The wets I've raced on sure as fuck did. Mind you...I wasn't using tyre warmers! Rossi is no wet weather expert mate, despite what the fans think.

Your memory is failing you there, Rossi had good results in the rain before he went to Ducati. You did better with the wets comment though.

There was an interview with Jeremy Burgess I think. Anyhoo, whoever it was pointed out that the tyre warmers don't do much in the rain. Riding around in the wet on the sighting lap undoes whatever the tyre warmers had done, and it normally takes about eight laps for the tyres to come back up to temperature.
The interviewee, whoever it was, pointed out that most of the fallers in the then recent wet race had fallen in the first eight laps.

[James Deuce]

Nah, he's been well upstaged in the poor form stakes.

Jorge reminds me of Stoner when he's not top step of the podium though. They can't give credit where it's due, and it grinds the fuck out of my gears.
Yeah, I agree - Lorenzo has been through a lot of shit to get to where he is including some major family upset that would be difficult to deal with without having to be competitive in MotoGP. I love his style of riding. He is smooth to a fault and his sweeping lines are a joy to behold.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Your memory is failing you there, Rossi had good results in the rain before he went to Ducati. You did better with the wets comment though.

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I'd have a look tonight when I get home if I could be fucked! This weekend though...I reckon a red bike might even win.

[Drew]

I'd have a look tonight when I get home if I could be fucked! This weekend though...I reckon a red bike might even win.

She's a pretty big straight.

[Crasherfromwayback]

She's a pretty big straight.

The downhill off cambers might fuck 'em though. And JL is pretty fucking good round there.

[pritch]

The downhill off cambers might fuck 'em though. And JL is pretty fucking good round there.

True JL knows the fast way around Mugello. Rossi won seven straight there but that's almost ancient history, he'll be motivated but he needs to qualify well.

Iannone has a point to prove, is at home, and he'll be hard out. Maybe too hard?

Overnight Espagero A said he is not happy about all the conjecture as to whether the second Suzuki rider will be Rins or Zarco, nobody mentions him. Suzuki have not spoken to him about a new contract, and he has told his manager to look at other options. He too will have a point to prove.

Here's hoping for a good race.

[pritch]

Back to the future? It was reported overnight that a wall has appeared in the Yamaha garage.

After Rossi announced he was leaving for Ducati he no longer received new parts. When Lorenzo announced he was leaving, Jarvis made a speech that was all sweetness and light about the riders being treated equally.

During FP1 Rossi was thought to be testing testing a new clutch. He didn't do a single flying lap, he would do a practice start, ride around and pull back into the pits. This happened six or seven times.

It's not known yet whether Lorenzo is taking Ramon Forcada, or anybody else, with him to Ducati. So far just one member of the pit crew has announced he is staying with Yamaha.

[Dadpole]

During FP1 Rossi was thought to be testing testing a new clutch. He didn't do a single flying lap, he would do a practice start, ride around and pull back into the pits. This happened six or seven times.

Wet track and a fine weekend forecast. Bugger all else to do as they could probably get no other useful data.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Oscar will love this article...

http://superbikeplanet.com/2016/May/160520rydernotes.htm

[BMWST?]

The day of the 'ambition' comment, was the only time I saw Rossi on form on the Ducati. He'd caught up a fuck ton the lap previous and was gonna get past Stoner who was having a shit time in the rain on the Honda. Rossi fucked up by coming from too far back, but he was gonna roost Stoner that day.
regardless of what might have happened he came from too far back and took Stoner out.....the comment made by Stoner was spot on.

[pritch]

Wet track and a fine weekend forecast. Bugger all else to do as they could probably get no other useful data.

They wouldn't need a wall and secret squirrel stuff in that case. Others were riding, although few wanted to try the Michelin Intermediates. Redding did, and he was leading the timesheets until toward the end of the session.

[Dadpole]

Good point Pritch.

I did see the screen go up but never associated with a secret clutch. Time for a conspiracy theory - Lorenzo gets the worn out clutch from Rossi's bike. Another entry in the JL 'Big Book of Excuses' ? :innocent:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Another entry in the JL 'Big Book of Excuses' ? :innocent:

Haters always find ways to call the facts *excuses*. :msn-wink:

[Dadpole]

Here fishy fishy fishy.

Any brave predictions?

Lorenzo - Because he is bloody fast...
Iannone - Fast & a point to prove
Rossi - He needs to keep in the game

MM - DNF because he needs to push the Honda too much

[Autech]

10kmph more down the back straight for the dooks. Might actually go out on a limb and say we will have one of the Andreas as the winner. Eeeaaahhhnoni will be determined to show up Ducati for shit canning him, therefore I predict the following
Top 3 will be
AI
AD (in either order)
JL

Best of the rest will be
VR
MM
SR
DP
MV


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[BMWST?]

dovi has a recurrence of an old neck injury

JL
IA
VR
MM
MV

[James Deuce]

10kmph more down the back straight for the dooks. Might actually go out on a limb and say we will have one of the Andreas as the winner. Eeeaaahhhnoni will be determined to show up Ducati for shit canning him, therefore I predict the following
Top 3 will be
AI
AD (in either order)
JL

Best of the rest will be
VR
MM
SR
DP
MV


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Top notch comedy skit material.

[pritch]

ESP has said that he does not currently have a contract offer. So with ESA not having one, we could be short two Espagero brothers next year. It's tough at the top.

And it's looking like a scorcher in Mugello.

MM
JL
AI
VR
MV

[EJK]

Here fishy fishy fishy.

Any brave predictions?

Lorenzo - Because he is bloody fast...
Iannone - Fast & a point to prove
Rossi - He needs to keep in the game

MM - DNF because he needs to push the Honda too much

1. Iannone
2. Marquez
3. Rossi

Lorenzo DNF

Iannone lets go!!!! As his nickname, he's got the guts to "charge" through overtakes (albeit hit or miss tho) so I think he's got a chance battling for the top position.

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[Dadpole]

Quals have just finished. Fark... Tomorrow may be a cracker.

Moto3 qual was downright funny in the last five minutes. :lol:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Crazy Joe.

Lorenzo.

Rossi.

MM.

Dovi.

[mulletman]

I actually think MV did the best out there in qualifying as he didn't have a slipstream in his ripper time.



JL

AI

VR

MM

MV

[carbonhed]

Amazing how fast Flossi goes with his face between Vinales butt cheeks!

[puddytat]

The old codger for the win....

VR
AI
MV
JL
MM

[Dadpole]

Who needs Coronation Street when we have this? http://www.gpone.com/en/2016052126220/motogp/rossi-i-copied-off-vinales-theyll-send-a-note-home.html :rofl:

[Erelyes]

I think VR will pull finger. With JL in hot pursuit.
MM to look like he's struggling.

That said, MV is paying $15 for a win. It'd be rude not to put a fiver on the lad with those odds.

[Drew]

Prolly sound like a fanboy here, but it's honestly just an observation.

Rossi never used to be great at qualifying. Then the new format fucked him up further. But the dude just cements his status in my mind as the greatest GP rider in history. He has adapted once again and lifted his game. At an age where most riders slowly fall through the standings and retire, this freak is still learning new tricks and pulling out sensational results.

He's not the fastest racer, the way he was once unbeatable. But he is undeniably a class act on a bike.

[Dadpole]

BTSport had an interview with Crutchlow who said that the Honda data showed the bike braked better when out of line. He noted that most crashes under braking were when the wheels were in line.

No reason to doubt him as Crutchlow must be the 'Honda Crash Consultant' by now.

How is someone supposed to race like that? MM manages, but it is not pretty and I always fear it will bite him hard one day.

[malcy25]

VR
JL
MV
MM

AI on the deck but in the hunt till he gets too excited. Dovi is screwed at the back of the field.

[BMWST?]

Vr did benefir from a slipstream from MV down the finish straight,unfortunately he didnt reciprocate for MV,he woulda got the pole if he had a draft down the finish line.That boy is coming good!
Hopefully we will have a race for the top spots!

[pritch]

During qualifying Nick Harris mentioned that Pirro rides at Mugello every week day. That's very different to what Pirro says.
http://www.gpone.com/en/2016052026019/motogp/pirro-me-a-tester-im-a-rider.html

There was discussion about Petrucci's role in the Police during the commentary. Apparently Pirro also has a job with the Police. Fat chance of doing a runner from the likes of those guys?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Rossi never used to be great at qualifying. Then the new format fucked him up further. But the dude just cements his status in my mind as the greatest GP rider in history. He has adapted once again and lifted his game. At an age where most riders slowly fall through the standings and retire, this freak is still learning new tricks and pulling out sensational results.

He's not the fastest racer, the way he was once unbeatable. But he is undeniably a class act on a bike.

Couldn't agree more. Pretty fucking amazing really.

[NZsarge]

Prolly sound like a fanboy here, but it's honestly just an observation.

Rossi never used to be great at qualifying. Then the new format fucked him up further. But the dude just cements his status in my mind as the greatest GP rider in history. He has adapted once again and lifted his game. At an age where most riders slowly fall through the standings and retire, this freak is still learning new tricks and pulling out sensational results.

He's not the fastest racer, the way he was once unbeatable. But he is undeniably a class act on a bike.

Truth......

[Maha]

You will never hear/read the saying 'Slow down Bautista' or 'Slow down Iannone'. In Britain a cop will still ask a speeding motorcyclist ''Who do you think you are Barry Sheene''? Two of the most marketable and recognised names in Motorcycle racing history.

[Dadpole]

You will never hear/read the saying 'Slow down Bautista' or 'Slow down Iannone'. In Britain a cop will still ask a speeding motorcyclist ''Who do you think you are Barry Sheene''? Two of the most marketable and recognised names in Motorcycle racing history.

No matter what success he has in the future, I bet no copper will ever say "Slow down Di Giannantonio".

[Reckless]

Here we go again been hearing about this but its in print now LOL.
Pretty sure Rossi's retort was he was just in the right place at the right time. But Im yet to watch qualifying as my son comes over for our motoGP night after work tomorrow and we watch it all then.
Who's watched it was it rigged ???



MotoGP Mugello: Lorenzo accuses Rossi, Vinales of teaming up

21.05.2016
| Author: MotoGP desk| MotoGP

Picture: Tony Goldsmith
Reigning MotoGP World Champion Jorge Lorenzo has accused Movistar Yamaha team-mate Valentino Rossi of teaming up with Maverick Vinales - the man who replaces him at Yamaha next year - to get a fast laptime in qualifying.

Rossi admitted he got a tow from the Ecstar Suzuki rider which enabled him to jump into pole position today, and improve his laptime by almost a second. The Doctor’s best until he was behind Vinales was 1’47.676 and the pole lap was a 1’46.504 while Vinales set a 1’46.598 for second.

“I needed to get out first as I didn’t have much time to make the strategy for three tyres. This is my strategy, to be alone and try to be as fast as possible, and some other riders are good to search and wait for someone,” said Lorenzo, speaking at the track.

“It looks like in the case of Rossi and Vinales it is some sort of strategy they have. If it is a coincidence, then it is one repeated four or five times. It is difficult to have so many repeat coincidences.”

- See more at: http://www.bikesportnews.com/news/news-detail/motogp-mugello-lorenzo-accuses-rossi-vinales-of-teaming-up#sthash.ICFJwaBr.dpuf

[EJK]

Lorenzo would be perfect on KiwiBiker. Look at young Mav scoring P2 on Qualifying on his own without slipstream assist.

Tag: Call the waaambulance

[Drew]

It worked very well for both of them, but it would nearly impossible to actually do it on purpose.

Rossi is getting a bit of flack, but think about it. Yeah, Vinales put in the fastest lap without a tow. But who would have picked that in the beginning and followed him? No one, Iannone would have been the obvious guy to tag onto and try to draft over the line going on free practice times.

[ellipsis]

...hahahahaha...

[pritch]

In Britain a cop will still ask a speeding motorcyclist ''Who do you think you are Barry Sheene''? Two of the most marketable and recognised names in Motorcycle racing history.

That, and 'cause that's what they learn at their Hendon sarcasm classes. "Having a bit of trouble getting airborne this morning Wing Commander?" Etc
That and the fact that for a long time there hasn't been another candidate? Yet.

[pritch]

Who's watched it was it rigged ???


Mat Oxley posted helicopter footage of the lap. I think it's on the MotoGP website and I could see it without having paid but I don't know about now. Oxley says it was only a psychological tow, not a slipstream - until the last few yards. MV possibly would've heard Rossi and moved over, whatever, he did move over which is enough to spark Lorenzo's "weaving" conspiracy theory.

Perhaps I should tell JL about that 9/11 conspiracy thread on KB? He might be interested. :whistle:

There are already jokes appearing on the 'Net about Lorenzo and excuses but I'm unsure how to get JPGs from my iPad to here.

[Drew]

Mat Oxley posted helicopter footage of the lap. I think it's on the MotoGP website and I could see it without having paid but I don't know about now. Oxley says it was only a psychological tow, not a slipstream - until the last few yards. MV possibly would've heard Rossi and moved over, whatever, he did move over which is enough to spark Lorenzo's "weaving" conspiracy theory.

Perhaps I should tell JL about that 9/11 conspiracy thread on KB? He might be interested. :whistle:

There are already jokes appearing on the 'Net about Lorenzo and excuses but I'm unsure how to get JPGs from my iPad to here.
Gold the image and save it. That'll download it, then go through the manage attachments like normal.

[pritch]

Thanks for that.

Meantime the helicopter shot of Rossi's lap is still available.
http://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2016/05/21/rossi-s-pole-winning-lap/201657

[BMWST?]

VR def got a bit of a draft tdown the finish straight,i dont think it was engineered just how it worked out.MV looking very fast .Hope he can get a reasonable start,though i think he has mostly been a steady starter and comes good in the last half of the race ,seemed to be like that in moto 2 as well

[BMWST?]

2016 Mugello MotoGP WUP Result: Viñales Quickest, Lorenzo Blows an Engine

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</header>Maverick Viñales was comfortably fastest in morning warm up for the MotoGP class. Jorge Lorenzo blew an engine at the end of the main straight. So far, he had only been using the third of his seven available engines, so he is in no danger of exceeding the limit just yet.
Results:

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Pos
No.
Rider
Bike
Time
Diff
Diff Previous


1
25
Maverick Viñales
Suzuki
1'47.295




2
4
Andrea Dovizioso
Ducati
1'47.436
0.141
0.141


3
93
Marc Marquez
Honda
1'47.645
0.350
0.209


4
99
Jorge Lorenzo
Yamaha
1'47.721
0.426
0.076


5
46
Valentino Rossi
Yamaha
1'47.777
0.482
0.056


6
29
Andrea Iannone
Ducati
1'47.787
0.492
0.010


7
44
Pol Espargaro
Yamaha
1'47.800
0.505
0.013


8
41
Aleix Espargaro
Suzuki
1'47.809
0.514
0.009


9
9
Danilo Petrucci
Ducati
1'47.918
0.623
0.109


10
26
Dani Pedrosa
Honda
1'47.932
0.637
0.014


11
35
Cal Crutchlow
Honda
1'48.046
0.751
0.114


12
38
Bradley Smith
Yamaha
1'48.113
0.818
0.067


13
51
Michele Pirro
Ducati
1'48.249
0.954
0.136


14
45
Scott Redding
Ducati
1'48.290
0.995
0.041


15
43
Jack Miller
Honda
1'48.584
1.289
0.294


16
68
Yonny Hernandez
Ducati
1'48.749
1.454
0.165


17
8
Hector Barbera
Ducati
1'48.786
1.491
0.037


18
6
Stefan Bradl
Aprilia
1'48.827
1.532
0.041


19
19
Alvaro Bautista
Aprilia
1'49.202
1.907
0.375


20
76
Loris Baz
Ducati
1'49.295
2.000
0.093


21
50
Eugene Laverty
Ducati
1'49.507
2.212
0.212

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[Autech]

Holy fuck this moto3 race is epic!


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[markbdaniels]

Holy fuck this moto3 race is epic!


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Loving it! Go brad binder!

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[Autech]

Loving it! Go brad binder!

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Go Pawi!


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[Autech]

Horey SHET!


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[markbdaniels]

Freaking awesome! Love this shit!

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[Dadpole]

Faark.. 5 seconds between 1st and 21st. Long love Moto3:niceone:

[sugilite]

Amazing how fast Flossi goes with his face between Vinales butt cheeks!
Awww, JL is just jealous he was not fast enough to do the same :msn-wink:

[markbdaniels]

What's up with Moto 2?

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[Dadpole]

What's up with Moto 2?

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Clusterfuck...

[markbdaniels]

Sounds like they going to redo the restart.

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[Dadpole]

I am waiting for the start of the restart of the restart.:confused:

[Dadpole]

Moto2 a great race too. :wings:

[EJK]

Alright here it goes! Iannone!!

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[EJK]

Alright here it goes! Iannone!!

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[Autech]

Robbed...


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[markbdaniels]

Robbed...


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[pritch]

Two engine blow-ups in one day? Somebody back at Yamaha HQ might be invited to step into the void.

[pritch]

Well you can't complain about a lack of excitement in any of the three races.

[mulletman]

Wow !!!!!!

[Autech]

Holy shit did the Honda boys fill the gap though. Epic race. Shame Rossi went boom but promising signs for Honda


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[Dadpole]

Holy flying buttocks... That was a race.

Rossi looked good until he took up smoking. Full marks to Marquez for that effort and 9 out of 10 for Lorenzo. (He loses a point for copying with a slipstream) :devil2:

[carbonhed]

Awesome race between the two fastest guys on the grid. If only Lorenzo was better at the cut and thrust of dicing for the lead he may even have won it.... :laugh:

Nice work from Rossi`s fans during the podium celebrations. What kind of douches boo after a race like that?

[Drew]

Lorenzo did an incredible job to win that. Three faster riders behind and still taking the win is out of this world race craft.

Honda seem to have improved the bike under their riders.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Honda seem to have improved the bike under their riders.

I think the thing is a heap of shit. It's only the fact that MM and Pedro are that good that it looks ok. How badly did MM get dragged off by the Yam on the way to the finish line?

[Autech]

I think the thing is a heap of shit. It's only the fact that MM and Pedro are that good that it looks ok. How badly did MM get dragged off by the Yam on the way to the finish line?

It is a pile of poos, but it's smelling less and less.

I was watching the Yam out of the last corner and over the first rise 100m after it, I noticed JL's bike was popping a wee wheelie while MM's was staying flat as a pancake. While wheeling is not a good thing for drive I drew the conclusion that MM's bike was being strangled so much by the electronics that it wasn't even going quick enough at that point of the track to pop a wheel up. Honda need to fix that engine as the chassis isn't looking all that bad anymore.
In years past DP was talked about exiting that last corner and his ablility to get it stood up and on the gas, he's still doing that but losing out big time in wheel spin etc, poos bike.
Great battle tween him and Eeeaaahhnoni, good work by AI to keep him at bay, he put in a farking quick last lap to hold him off, clearly firing shots at Dook saying you chose the wrong guy (which they didn't).

MV needs to be sat down by Aleix and given a lesson in how to start a race, so disappointing to see him smashed every race off the line.
Suzuki need to get their heads read if they don't retain Aleix Espagaro, great first half of the race from him with his usual drop off at the end.

[puddytat]

That would have had to been the best racing in all 3 classes for a meeting so far this year....

[pritch]

Honda need to fix that engine as the chassis isn't looking all that bad anymore.


Not sure about that, Marquez' Honda was sometimes bucking and weaving where Lorenzo's bike was stable. Can't remember his exact words but MM said he abandoned his thoughts about riding for the championship and went back to win or bin.

Spare a thought for Alex Briggs, one of Rossi's mechanics, he must have experienced a wide range of emotions over the course of the weekend. His home in Queensland was being threatened by a bushfire, really close, as in just a few yards, and he couldn't help his wife and kids. The excitement and pleasure of Rossi's pole lap, the tension of the early part of the race, the despair of the blow up, and the relief when he heard the house and family were OK.

Yamaha says both bikes suffered top end failures, but some of the other pit crews say Lorenzo's bike threw a rod. At least Jarvis didn't try and sell the failures as ignition problems. This creates a potential drama for Yamaha, the engines are probably already back in Japan, or close to it, but the engine rules mean that they can't modify anything on the remaining engines. There is just one possible way out, they would need to convince the other manufacturers that there is a safety problem then they would be permitted to alter the design.

David Emmett passed mild criticism of Rossi for loitering on the racing line after his engine blew, potentially dangerous but his engine did not drop any oil, the belly pan contained only water.

Anybody who wasn't happy with the drama in those races is very hard to please.

[ellipsis]

Anybody who wasn't happy with the drama in those races is very hard to please.


...too true...fucked off for Vale, but that's life at the top of the game...nearly fucked my knee jumping around at the end stage of that last lap...wow...

[Autech]

Not sure about that, Marquez' Honda was sometimes bucking and weaving where Lorenzo's bike was stable. Can't remember his exact words but MM said he abandoned his thoughts about riding for the championship and went back to win or bin.


Possibly more a sign of the electronics cutting in all the time rather than the chassis being a pile of poos. That said, isn't Marquez still riding around on a rusty old 2014 chassis?


...too true...fucked off for Vale, but that's life at the top of the game...nearly fucked my knee jumping around at the end stage of that last lap...wow...

I was so disappointed when that engine blew, we the fans were denied a humdinger of a battle by that failure. I feel like writing a letter to Yamaha.

Mrs was asleep at the other end of the house so I had to keep my shouting contained, still managed to jump about a bit though. JL haters need to shut their mouths and admire.

Poor old Jack Miller has been on facebook telling the haters to STFU, this crash apparently wasn't his fault. Tough at the top.

[ellipsis]

What kind of douches boo after a race like that?

...probably obnoxious cocksucks like you...where do I collect my prize...you should try riding your throttle instead of throttling your cock...

[Doppleganger]

Big shame for Rossi, he was all over Lorenzo like a rash, if he'd made a pass stick he looked like he could have pulled away. Was always able to get back up to Lorenzo when the pass failed.

Awesome race and a stunning circuit

[Crasherfromwayback]

Big shame for Rossi, he was all over Lorenzo like a rash, if he'd made a pass stick he looked like he could have pulled away. Was always able to get back up to Lorenzo when the pass failed.

Awesome race and a stunning circuit

Yeah pretty stink result for the Old Boy. And yeah...the fast flowing tracks always provide the best racing eh!

[pritch]

the fast flowing tracks always provide the best racing eh!


Yeah I read somewhere recently, "Fast tracks provide the best racing." I'm a believer.

Oxley made a comment that if you are planning a visit to Mugello it should be in the next two years.
Changes of some sort are possible, but he didn't say what.

Stoner was at Mugello and is talking to Ducati about their testing programme. It was also reported that wildcard rides at Phillip Island and Sepang were topics to be discussed. Whether that is fact, or somebody had smoked the electric puha before consulting their keyboard, who knows. We'll all know in October.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yeah I read somewhere recently, "Fast tracks provide the best racing." I'm a believer.

Oxley made a comment that if you are planning a visit to Mugello it should be in the next two years.
Changes of some sort are possible, but he didn't say what.

Stoner was at Mugello and is talking to Ducati about their testing programme. It was also reported that wildcard rides at Phillip Island and Sepang were topics to be discussed. Whether that is fact, or somebody had smoked the electric puha before consulting their keyboard, who knows. We'll all know in October.

I used to LOVE watching the racing from Hockenheim back in the day! Do it Stoner!!

[Dave-]

I loved the crowd, I have got to get to Mugello in 2017, imagine the crowd for Rossi's last ever Italian GP!

[Drew]

I loved the crowd, I have got to get to Mugello in 2017, imagine the crowd for Rossi's last ever Italian GP!

Unless his form drops a lot between now and then, I don't see him retiring.

[Autech]

I loved the crowd, I have got to get to Mugello in 2017, imagine the crowd for Rossi's last ever Italian GP!

Lets work out the $$$ to get there.

Picked some random dates Return to Rome on expedia, $2500 return give or take. Add another 1200 for tickets, food and acom. 3700.

4 grand at a minimum after you buy the T shirt to remind yourself you were there.

Lets say Rossi decides to retire in 2018 (his contract with Yam is until then), that's 2 years, 2 years in weeks is 104.
4000 divided by 104.
$38.50 a week.
Average cup of coffee costs $4 these days, so thats 9 cups of coffee a week. Quit coffee, put away the savings in a seperate account and boom, Motogp in Italy!

Or if you are shit at saving money here's a website to help:
http://rev967.com/how-much-is-your-kidney-worth-on-the-black-market/

A few of you have been there and done that so I would appreciate your input on how much it cost.

[Badjelly]

Poor old Jack Miller has been on facebook telling the haters to STFU, this crash apparently wasn't his fault. Tough at the top.

I haven't been paying all that much attention to Jack Miller's results this year (because he's never on the telly during the race for some reason :-) ) but I was a bit shocked to see this morning that he has a grand total of 2 championship points after six races. Oh well, I guess I must be a hater for noticing.

[EJK]

Lets work out the $$$ to get there.

Picked some random dates Return to Rome on expedia, $2500 return give or take. Add another 1200 for tickets, food and acom. 3700.

4 grand at a minimum after you buy the T shirt to remind yourself you were there.

Lets say Rossi decides to retire in 2018 (his contract with Yam is until then), that's 2 years, 2 years in weeks is 104.
4000 divided by 104.
$38.50 a week.
Average cup of coffee costs $4 these days, so thats 9 cups of coffee a week. Quit coffee, put away the savings in a seperate account and boom, Motogp in Italy!

Or if you are shit at saving money here's a website to help:
http://rev967.com/how-much-is-your-kidney-worth-on-the-black-market/

A few of you have been there and done that so I would appreciate your input on how much it cost.

Who has been to Phillip Island? Average all up cost?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Who has been to Phillip Island? Average all up cost?

About 8 times. Depends on how mad you go when there! We hired a plane to fly from Melb to the track one year. Sure beat taking the fucking bus!!

[SimJen]

Who has been to Phillip Island? Average all up cost?

I did last year, cheap flights via jetstar $600, accomodation $1000, motogp tickets $250?, bus fares to Phillip Island etc $300-400, food/drink $1000? shop around and maybe $2-3k?
But in terms of accomodation, I've already booked mine! They are pretty much full up everywhere already.
Once in a lifetime opportunity, although I'm doing it again this year with a mate ;) and I went to Misano a few years ago too....although that was considerably more expensive!

[Dave-]

Lets work out the $$$ to get there.

Picked some random dates Return to Rome on expedia, $2500 return give or take. Add another 1200 for tickets, food and acom. 3700.

4 grand at a minimum after you buy the T shirt to remind yourself you were there.

Lets say Rossi decides to retire in 2018 (his contract with Yam is until then), that's 2 years, 2 years in weeks is 104.
4000 divided by 104.
$38.50 a week.
Average cup of coffee costs $4 these days, so thats 9 cups of coffee a week. Quit coffee, put away the savings in a seperate account and boom, Motogp in Italy!

Or if you are shit at saving money here's a website to help:
http://rev967.com/how-much-is-your-kidney-worth-on-the-black-market/

A few of you have been there and done that so I would appreciate your input on how much it cost.

The dream is:

Mugello - IOM - 24 hours of Le Mans - 24 hours of Nurbergring - Monaco

I also plan to save money at the motogp by painting myself yellow instead of buying a tshirt.

#frugal

[speights_bud]

Who has been to Phillip Island? Average all up cost?
Did it in 2013, cost about $1k.

Signed up to be a track official, free camping and only had to do a couple of nights dinner. Had a family member in Melbourne loan us his Land Cruiser and camping gear. He was happy because officials get a free weekend pass for a mate.

So it cost flights + beer + food.

[pritch]

Did it in 2013, cost about $1k.


We have a winner!

I did it twice with the now defunct Honda Riders Club. From memory the cheque would have been north of $3,000. But for that there was motel, air conditioned wagons, a track side beer garden, marquee, private grandstand, chef catering, free tea coffee and soft drinks for three days, and pit walks. Alcohol was charged for but I was there to watch the races, queueing for a portaloo with my back to the track was not on my list of things to do.

One of our locals told me his first trip cost half that. He stayed in a pub in Melbourne, went to the track on the bus, (it's a fair hall but they replay all of the seasons GPs). They dropped him near the stand at Siberia where he had a seat. He was happy.

[speights_bud]

We have a winner!

What sucks balls the most is that the flights from Napier to Auckland & return were the most expensive part!! :mad:

I did it with my parents the comfortable way in 2010, cost around $2.5k. Grandstand seats opposite the podium etc, stolen pit walk passes etc (thanks Drew!) We shared a house on the island (walking distance) with about 8 other people. Bought all our meat etc at the markets in Melbourne before heading down.

Even flogged a flag to prove it :niceone:
321801

[Drew]

What sucks balls the most is that the flights from Napier to Auckland & return were the most expensive part!! :mad:

I did it with my parents the comfortable way in 2010, cost around $2.5k. Grandstand seats opposite the podium etc, stolen pit walk passes etc (thanks Drew!) We shared a house on the island (walking distance) with about 8 other people. Bought all our meat etc at the markets in Melbourne before heading down.

Even flogged a flag to prove it:niceone:
321801
If I'd known I was allowed to just grab those passes earlier, ya could have met some riders in all. So don't thank me too much.

[speights_bud]

If I'd known I was allowed to just grab those passes earlier, ya could have met some riders in all. So don't thank me too much.
Argh there you go, you are a right cunt aren't ya?

[Berries]

Nice work from Rossi`s fans during the podium celebrations. What kind of douches boo after a race like that?
Probably the same ones who post similar shit on online forums.

[eelracing]

Lets work out the $$$ to get there.

A few of you have been there and done that so I would appreciate your input on how much it cost.

Buy a clapped out ford station wagon in London for 125 quid(join the AA) and follow the GP circus around Europe for 3 months.Living off frites, beer and lucky strikes.Camp off side of roads,lakes,childrens playgrounds(sounds dodgy but really just drunk) and campgrounds to recover.
I Prob couldnt do it now but so glad I saw the best riders and tracks of the 500cc era.

[pritch]

And there I thought the job of a factory test rider was all drudgery and no glamour.

[EJK]

And there I thought the job of a factory test rider was all drudgery and no glamour.

Man, it must suck being retired and shit.

[Autech]

Man, it must suck being retired and shit.

Feel for the guy, driving a clapped out Italian car with his old retired Mrs. Poor guy.

[EJK]

Feel for the guy, driving a clapped out Italian car with his old retired Mrs. Poor guy.

Tough life being Casey Stoner having to deal with this person every day.

[Badjelly]

Tough life being Casey Stoner having to deal with this person every day.

Got nice eyes. So has she.

[pritch]

Lambo really do lay it on at a track day, lots of cars, an iconic track at Imola, and lots of goodies to eat and drink for family members. CS was not the only attendee familiar to us, Andrea Dovizioso was also there.

[Autech]

Lambo really do lay it on at a track day, lots of cars, an iconic track at Imola, and lots of goodies to eat and drink for family members. CS was not the only attendee familiar to us, Andrea Dovizioso was also there.

I've driven Imola on a few racing sim games. Would be one hell of a fun track to pilot a Lambo around at full tit, GIMME A TURN!

[EJK]

Lambo really do lay it on at a track day, lots of cars, an iconic track at Imola, and lots of goodies to eat and drink for family members. CS was not the only attendee familiar to us, Andrea Dovizioso was also there.

Who cares about Lambos. Do you see that silver sports car near top right-hand corner? That's a bloody Porsche 918 Spyder. Give me that any day!

[pritch]

Who cares about Lambos.

I thought it was pimps and soccer stars who bought Lambos. Wealthy people interested in driving favoured Ferrari. Not that I will ever have to worry about such decisions. A week and a half to Catalunya but the TT starts in a few days.

[roogazza]

I'm not really into the TT but this could be interesting ?

http://www.iomtt.com/News/2016/May/25/Anstey-RC213V-TT-2016

[merv]

I'm not really into the TT but this could be interesting ?

http://www.iomtt.com/News/2016/May/25/Anstey-RC213V-TT-2016

Go Bruce, and interesting it is 2" longer than Fireblade when I had thought the Honda MotoGP style bikes were very compact especially compared to the Yamahas which look long.

[pritch]

It was funny how that broke on Twitter. Originally it was an RCV213V and I got excited and posted about that here. An hour or more after all an sundry had been announcing it MCN had a big "EXCLUSIVE" announcement. Not much of an exclusive I'd have thought. Then later again, clarification that it was actually an RCV213V-S which was didn't seem nearly as exciting in the middle of the night so I deleted my post.

Another interesting discussion last night involved the performance of the Honda GP bikes starting with the control electronics. Casey Stoner chipped in with the comment that the HRC engineers have worked with Magnetti Morelli and understand the equipment. David Emmett thought perhaps they don't understand it well enough. Michael Turco (a Spanish journo?) then said the riders state the problem is the engine, not the electronics. Nakamoto San is reported as saying the problem is the control electronics. The consensus was more or less, "Well he would say that wouldn't he?"

There is a long history of the factories blaming "ignition failure" when the piston hit the spark plug, or the rod sticking through the case stopped the alternator rotating, or the connecting rod cut the HT lead, or if it just plain ran out of gas. For my money Nakamoto San's comments may be in this long tradition. When one of the riders writes a book we may get the truth - or we may not.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I'm not really into the TT but this could be interesting ?

http://www.iomtt.com/News/2016/May/25/Anstey-RC213V-TT-2016

Brucey told me his boss had brought one when he was in. I asked him if he was gonna be cut loose on it, and he had a very bright twinkle in his eyes! Bring it on!

[5150]

Interesting read....

http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/opinion/motogp/could-2017-be-rossi-s-year

[Drew]

Interesting read....

http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/opinion/motogp/could-2017-be-rossi-s-year
Lorenzo on the Ducati is a complete unknown. The bike is better and better all the time, and without having seen JL ride anything but the Yamaha we can't predict how it will go.

Mibbee that smooth style of his is just what he does to get the best out of the Yamaha. Perhaps he's that good, that he will change that style to ride the Ducati to its best.

Rossi can't be discounted of course. He is a motorcycling God. We will likely never see anyone like him for a long long time. But to suggest he has a better shot next year than this, is unfounded as far as I'm concerned.

[Autech]

Lorenzo on the Ducati is a complete unknown. The bike is better and better all the time, and without having seen JL ride anything but the Yamaha we can't predict how it will go.

Mibbee that smooth style of his is just what he does to get the best out of the Yamaha. Perhaps he's that good, that he will change that style to ride the Ducati to its best.

Rossi can't be discounted of course. He is a motorcycling God. We will likely never see anyone like him for a long long time. But to suggest he has a better shot next year than this, is unfounded as far as I'm concerned.

I agree, especially as Rossi will have a hungry young rider with 2 years motogp experience under his belt on the other best bike on the grid. Providing the balance stays in Yams favour that is.

I have a feeling the Duc as it stands could have won at least 2 races this year on pure merit, just the two pilots on board can't quite get it there. JL might dominate for all we know.


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[pritch]

We tend to grant the predictions of the pundits more respect than they are due. Their picks are generally no more accurate than ours.
And mine are bloody terrible. :whistle:

[Crasherfromwayback]

JL might dominate for all we know.




I'm very much doubting that'll happen. Be happy to see if he does though.

[Autech]

We tend to grant the predictions of the pundits more respect than they are due. Their picks are generally no more accurate than ours.
And mine are bloody terrible. :whistle:

At least you haven't been backing Dani Pedrosa for a title for nearly 10 years lol. What does that say about me?

Though truth be told I think that Dani now signing with the Honda again means that there is no chance of a title for my homie. Sigh.

[Crasherfromwayback]

This clip...

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[merv]

I always liked the boy Mav back from the time he got inspiration from Paris Hilton's cleavage :laugh:

[markbdaniels]

This clip...

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[Crasherfromwayback]

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[markbdaniels]

Works fine for me.
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I'm seeing:
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[BMWST?]

to talk in termso f the yamaha being the dominant force next year,whilst JL may struggle is overlooking two important things.
1)mm
2) Honda.They will produce a decent bike.Much face has been lost recently, without even considering the last 200 m in Italy

[pritch]

to talk in termso f the yamaha being the dominant force next year,whilst JL may struggle is overlooking two important things.
1)mm
2) Honda.They will produce a decent bike.Much face has been lost recently, without even considering the last 200 m in Italy

Yeah they stuffed up this year in not fixing their power delivery problem, it's somewhat optimistic to expect them to do it again.

[BMWST?]

And an off season with casey stoner and ecu boffins.maybe an error in not keeping cs on side

[BMWST?]

Or is development like that off limits now

[James Deuce]

Yeah they stuffed up this year in not fixing their power delivery problem, it's somewhat optimistic to expect them to do it again.
Honda don't fix things like that they usually find an alien who can ride around the issues they create with their obstinate engineering ethos.

Don't forget that Honda simply don't value rider input. Riders get given a bike and if doesn't work for them they go elsewhere. Unless you're Dani Pedrosa.

[BMWST?]

Honda don't fix things like that they usually find an alien who can ride around the issues they create with their obstinate engineering ethos.
well they might have to think twice about that this time.I think it has been shown that they have an ultra alien,and even he cant ride the thing

[James Deuce]

well they might have to think twice about that this time.I think it has been shown that they have an ultra alien,and even he cant ride the thing
They honestly don't give a shit and they have a much longer view of racing than merely this particular rider's career. It would not surprise me to find that 50% of HRC have been working on developing a new "green" formula for top level motorcycle racing and the remaining junior half of HRC have been developing the current MotoGP bikes.

[BMWST?]

I hope not,although not pc I have always liked Honda,and think back to times when they actively tried different things.I suppose that is discouraged now with the rules

[pritch]

and the remaining junior half of HRC have been developing the current MotoGP bikes.

That is how Honda work. The race engineers come straight from university and they don't go on to design road bikes until later.

They have got out of shape before about the place of riders in the overall scheme of things, as when Rossi felt unappreciated and left for Yamaha.
It'd be silly if they were ignoring their riders. Ducati were doing that, maybe it's the turn of Honda? :whistle:

[James Deuce]

That is how Honda work. The race engineers come straight from university and they don't go on to design road bikes until later.

They have got out of shape before about the place of riders in the overall scheme of things, as when Rossi felt unappreciated and left for Yamaha.
It'd be silly if they were ignoring their riders. Ducati were doing that, maybe it's the turn of Honda? :whistle:

They did the same to Eddie Lawson. He and Erv made what was an unspeakable piece of crap work, won the championship and then went elsewhere as soon as he could due to Honda's attitude. It's a common theme. I believe that Mick Doohan had to threaten people to stop them from messing with the mid-90s bike.

[Grumph]

They did the same to Eddie Lawson. He and Erv made what was an unspeakable piece of crap work, won the championship and then went elsewhere as soon as he could due to Honda's attitude. It's a common theme. I believe that Mick Doohan had to threaten people to stop them from messing with the mid-90s bike.

Yeah, Honda's ethos is to develop engineers with imagination rather than simply win championships. And the rider only wants to win...
I'd assume Honda see a rider as a flawed piece of software...Or corrupted if you prefer, LOL.

It's not a unique situation in Japan. I knew a guy now dead who worked at GM for a couple of years then did another 2 years at Nissan on their sports car race programme. His comment on that time was that the round eyes were tolerated for the input and imagination - but that as soon as they could do without them it would be sayonara....

[pritch]

Well it made me smile...

Alex Briggs refers to his tractor as Mr Mahindra, a day or so ago he posted a photo from his farm, "Me and Mr Mahindra out doing a bit of slashing."

Today a reply. "Sounds like fun, tell Mr Mahindra that Mr Mahindra said hello."
(From Anand Mahindra,Chairman and Managing Director of Mihindra Group, Mumbai.)

[Dave-]

Yeah, Honda's ethos is to develop engineers with imagination rather than simply win championships. And the rider only wants to win...
I'd assume Honda see a rider as a flawed piece of software...Or corrupted if you prefer, LOL.

It's not a unique situation in Japan. I knew a guy now dead who worked at GM for a couple of years then did another 2 years at Nissan on their sports car race programme. His comment on that time was that the round eyes were tolerated for the input and imagination - but that as soon as they could do without them it would be sayonara....

This is actually becoming more common in top tier motorsport as simulation and race modelling get better and better.

In 2008 when Audi won the DTM (german touring cars) they announced that 99% of their setup was decided on by simulation and that the driver was instructed to learn to drive the car this way, rather than work towards a solution that worked for the driver.

I can't actually find any decent evidence to suggest that MotoGP teams are doing full on, hard core simulation. But given the ratio between testing restrictions and available budget, I'm fairly sure they're doing at least something.

There's a saying though "Junk In = Junk Out", I would suggest Honda are feeding their simulator junk food.

[Erelyes]

This is actually becoming more common in top tier motorsport as simulation and race modelling get better and better.

In 2008 when Audi won the DTM (german touring cars) they announced that 99% of their setup was decided on by simulation and that the driver was instructed to learn to drive the car this way, rather than work towards a solution that worked for the driver.

I remember reading a book once (nice and vague) that said, often in F1 they'd get a driver coming in saying something felt faster after a setup change, where the lap times usually spoke the opposite. Usually drivers tended to prefer oversteer and lap times were better with understeer.

[Grumph]

I remember reading a book once (nice and vague) that said, often in F1 they'd get a driver coming in saying something felt faster after a setup change, where the lap times usually spoke the opposite. Usually drivers tended to prefer oversteer and lap times were better with understeer.

If you ever get the chance, ask John Surtees about the early front engined Lotus F1 cars - he can be very terse on that subject. Understeering straight off fast corners will do that....
Chapman was initially a great believer in stable understeer and his early stuff reflected that view. Then he decided to produce a responsive car and let the drivers do what they wanted with it - the 18. Much, much better...

I suspect that Honda simply haven't built in enough chassis adjustability to this years model, preferring to tune it with engine electronics.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I suspect that Honda simply haven't built in enough chassis adjustability to this years model, preferring to tune it with engine electronics.

You may find it has all the adjustability in the world. But that won't help one iota if the engine is the problem.

[Reckless]

Yamaha and Pol Espargaro to end partnership after 2016
Yamaha and Pol Espargaro will go their separate way at the end of the 2016 season, ending a three year relationship.
Tags MotoGP, 2016, GRAN PREMI MONSTER ENERGY DE CATALUNYA, Pol Espargaro, Monster Yamaha Tech 3
Espargaro joined the Monster Yamaha Tech3 Team in 2014, following his championship victory in the Moto2™ class the year before. The currently 24-year old adapted to the YZR-M1 quickly, as was displayed when he qualified second for the fifth race in Le Mans and claimed the accolade of ‘rookie of the year’ as well as ‘top satellite MotoGP™ rider’ with a sixth place overall finish. Espargaro followed up this successful year by taking ninth place in the final rankings in the 2015 season, with the highlight of finishing as the highest satellite team rider in Assen and Valencia with two fifth places. In addition to the MotoGP™ program, Espargaro also secured the win for Yamaha at the 2015 Suzuka 8 hours endurance race where he teamed up with Tech3 teammate Bradley Smith and Katsuyuki Nakasuga. Espargaro will team up once again this year with Katsuyuki Nakasuga and new rider Alex Lowes in an attempt to secure back-to-back wins for the Yamaha Factory Team.

So far this season Espargaro holds seventh place with 48 points in the 2016 MotoGP™ World Championship standings and has been the leading independent team rider since the start of the 2016 campaign, finishing three times as the best independent rider in Losail, Jerez, and Le Mans.

Yamaha Motor Co., Ltd. look back with great appreciation on Espargaro's contributions to its racing successes over the past two and a half years and wish Espargaro the very best in furthering his racing career. Yamaha and the Monster Yamaha Tech3 Team will continue to put their full efforts into finishing the 2016 season with Espargaro in the best possible manner and hope to share many more memorable moments during the upcoming twelve MotoGP™ rounds of the 2016 World Championship.

The 2017 Monster Yamaha Tech3 Team replacement for Pol Espargaro will be announced in due course.

[ecko_nzed]

Yamaha and Pol Espargaro to end partnership after 2016
Yamaha and Pol Espargaro will go their separate way at the end of the 2016 season, ending a three year relationship.

that's a shame, for some reason (that I can't recall) i'd pinned high hopes on Pol. But he only seemed to show very brief flashes of speed. Sooooooo wonder where he's off to and who will replace him at Tech 3? Will they go with some more fresh blood from Moto2 (Rins) or maybe the best of the rest from MotoGP (Petrucci or Laverty)?

[denill]

that's a shame, for some reason (that I can't recall) i'd pinned high hopes on Pol. But he only seemed to show very brief flashes of speed. Sooooooo wonder where he's off to and who will replace him at Tech 3? Will they go with some more fresh blood from Moto2 (Rins) or maybe the best of the rest from MotoGP (Petrucci or Laverty)?

Read that he could have the same team mate next year.

[del-solider]

. Sooooooo wonder where he's off to and who will replace him at Tech 3?

He's off to KTM, now confirmed. https://motomatters.com/news/2016/06/02/pol_espargaro_signs_two_year_deal_with.html

[merv]

So is this http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2016/Jun/160602a.htm mumble speak for there were no engine failures, but the rev limiter system let the engines over rev until the engines failed, but repeat there were no engine failures lol, just wrecked valves and pistons, but again I repeat there were no engine failures :facepalm:, just because the valves and pistons were wrecked it didn't mean they failed.

[Oscar]

So is this http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2016/Jun/160602a.htm mumble speak for there were no engine failures, but the rev limiter system let the engines over rev until the engines failed, but repeat there were no engine failures lol, just wrecked valves and pistons, but again I repeat there were no engine failures :facepalm:, just because the valves and pistons were wrecked it didn't mean they failed.

Both the Race Director and Technical Director believe the story.
Mike showed me a clip from Race Direction video of the moment that they believe Rossi's bike hit the bump, got out of shape and over-reved.

[george formby]

Watched Rossi talking about it at the press conference. $1 part, electrical problem, inaccurate rev limiter and a very wry smile. It was the leetle jump that did it.

[merv]

Both the Race Director and Technical Director believe the story.
Mike showed me a clip from Race Direction video of the moment that they believe Rossi's bike hit the bump, got out of shape and over-reved.

Yeah, but what I'm smiling about is there was still an engine failure, no matter what the cause was in the first place. That's why Soup were also tongue in cheek headlining it as "Rossi Lorenzo Engine Failures Were Not Engine Failures"

[Crasherfromwayback]

MM

Rossi

JL

MV

Pedro

[ecko_nzed]

Jl
mv
vr
mm dnf

[Autech]

VR
JL
DP
MM
AD
MV


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[pritch]

Electrical fault? Yeah right! :yawn:

JL
VR
MM
AI
MV


Might as well pull them out of a hat though. Still, looking forward to Q2 and the race.

[Crasherfromwayback]

MV fastest in first session and looking good. $15.00 at the TAB...

[onearmedbandit]

Yeah, but what I'm smiling about is there was still an engine failure, no matter what the cause was in the first place. That's why Soup were also tongue in cheek headlining it as "Rossi Lorenzo Engine Failures Were Not Engine Failures"

Yamaha's YZR-M1 project leader was quite happy to use the failure word.

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/230942/1/yamaha-reveals-cause-of-mugello-engine-failures.html

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yamaha's YZR-M1 project leader was quite happy to use the failure word.

l]

Not too many other words you could use really. Apart from the trusty kumara I guess...

[malcy25]

Arse

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2016/06/03/statement-luis-salom/202682

[carbonhed]

Arse

Very. :weep:

[Autech]

Shithouse news to wake up to


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[speights_bud]

...the rev limiter system let the engines over rev until the engines failed...

Believe it or not that is what I thought happened, although I put it down to a failure of the seamless gearbox system. ie not slipping enough and over revving the engines on deceleration. Though on reflection I guess the electronics should have picked that up eh?

[speights_bud]

R.I.P Luis Salom :weep:

[ecko_nzed]

MV fastest in first session and looking good. $15.00 at the TAB...

Yep, that was too good to resist splashing a bit of my allowance on

[pritch]

Following the death of Luis Salom the track has been modified. It doesn't so much slow the bikes down as it avoids one corner completely and replaces one fast corner with three slower ones. Calling it a chicane doesn't do it justice.

There was some comment that a contributing factor was having sealed run off instead of gravel. There will probably be a thorough review in due course.

The green part is the new layout, the red section the disused part.

[roogazza]

Following the death of Luis Salom the track has been modified. It doesn't so much slow the bikes down as it avoids one corner completely and replaces one fast corner with three slower ones. Calling it a chicane doesn't do it justice.

There was some comment that a contributing factor was having sealed run off instead of gravel. There will probably be a thorough review in due course.

The green part is the new layout, the red section the disused part.

In 05 pritch, I saw Charlie Checa or maybe Zaus turn a yamaha into scap metal right there.You could have just about put the bike in a 44 gallon drum !!!!!!! Whoever, they walked away from it.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Following the death of Luis Salom the track has been modified. It doesn't so much slow the bikes down as it avoids one corner completely and replaces one fast corner with three slower ones. Calling it a chicane doesn't do it justice.

There was some comment that a contributing factor was having sealed run off instead of gravel. There will probably be a thorough review in due course.

The green part is the new layout, the red section the disused part.

Very sad news. And I think the F1 cars use that layout don't they? Pity.

[actungbaby]

R.I.P Luis Salom :weep:

Yes sad news paid the ultimate price for the sport he loved

[Erelyes]

So sad. Died doing what he loved, but that doesn't make it any easier for his family and fellow competitors.

http://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2016/06/03/race-direction-statement-luis-salom/202690



MV fastest in first session and looking good. $15.00 at the TAB...

Yep, I only wish the TAB did the odds for 'top 3 finish' more often. But $15 for a win is a good bet alright.

[pritch]

And I think the F1 cars use that layout don't they?.

Apparently. That was the basis of a comment overnight linking the sealed run off area to F1, and making the track less suitable for bikes.

[quickbuck]

Very sad news. And I think the F1 cars use that layout don't they? Pity.
Sure do.
It was put in to encourage overtaking in F1. Not sure it works.
It was always a fast corner and in the day the gravel arrested you quite well. Shame cage track safety influences put tarmac in run-off areas now.... Like T7 at Manfeild.

Sad result for a relatively small error by Luis. RIP.

[BMWST?]

with over the top health and safety every where else how can this happen at such a circuit.Why dont the cars like the gravel pits?

[Autech]

with over the top health and safety every where else how can this happen at such a circuit.Why dont the cars like the gravel pits?

Thinking because they roll over in gravel?

I've driven that layout on racing sims. Its quite a technical section so should add a new element to the racing, but most importantly save our riders skin.


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[Crasherfromwayback]

.Why dont the cars like the gravel pits?


Thinking because they roll over in gravel?



Only a guess...but I'm thinking they'd rather have the cars return to racing which they prob wouldn't do if they get stranded in gravel?

[BMWST?]

Probably but what a price to pay for that coconvenience

[Crasherfromwayback]

Probably but what a price to pay for that coconvenience

Indeed. No way you should have asphalt all the way into barriers at such a fast part of a track.

Ouch. I'm guessing he broke his neck? RIP. Very sad end.

http://superbikeplanet.com/2016/Jun/160603n5t.htm

[Grumph]

Only a guess...but I'm thinking they'd rather have the cars return to racing which they prob wouldn't do if they get stranded in gravel?

Thing is, with cars they can be spun if you enter a corner too fast - even without brakes. By laying tarmac on the runoff area you offer this option with safety as yes, gravel traps will roll a spinning car...

I see it as yet another way that bike racing is being marginalised. By the time all the tracks in NZ go like Puke - as they probably will - it's going to be bloody hard to race bikes here. I've been involved through many versions of the safety debate ( old man's winge here...) I saw grass with banks set well back, then armco too bloody close to tracks then no armco and gravel traps. Now concrete walls - and even worse for a bike - tyre walls. Those bastards bounce things back - hard.

Lets start saving to build bike specific tracks....

[Crasherfromwayback]

Lets start saving to build bike specific tracks....

When I win 15 mill in Lotto tonight, we'll build one together mate. But I'll be wanting lots of up and down hill shit. None of this flat world shit!

[Grumph]

When I win 15 mill in Lotto tonight, we'll build one together mate. But I'll be wanting lots of up and down hill shit. None of this flat world shit!

I agree totally. I've been watching the drought around Cheviot, thinking there's going to be some primo circuit land available there soon....

Not far North of ChCh - and i reckon we'll lose 'puna inside 10 years....

[Crasherfromwayback]

I agree totally. I've been watching the drought around Cheviot, thinking there's going to be some primo circuit land available there soon....

Not far North of ChCh - and i reckon we'll lose 'puna inside 10 years....

Build our own version of Laguna's Corkscrew. And it'll be well nasty!

[pritch]

As David Emmett says little is known yet, perhaps things will become clearer overnight our time.

The bike apparently hit the wall at speed and bounced back hitting Salom.

I hope we don't get endless replays of the accident. A concise explanation will do me thanks.

[flashg]

Thinking because they roll over in gravel?

I've driven that layout on racing sims. Its quite a technical section so should add a new element to the racing, but most importantly save our riders skin.


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[Dadpole]

After FP3 the Honda looks like a real contender. Pedrosa in particular. Anyone want to change their picks?

For me...

Pedrosa - I would love to see him back in form :banana:
Rossi
Vinales

Marquez for a mistake-riddled fourth

[pritch]

I did wonder if the changed layout would alter the balance of power as it were. Apparently Yamaha miss the high speed corner and Honda gain from the increased braking.

Results of FP3 which is the only practice session that counts, times from the others have been cancelled:

VIN
MAQ
PED
ROS
ESP
LOR
RED
PET
CRU
IAN

[Autech]

Lorenzo really doesn't do himself any favours on the PR side of things.
http://m.crash.net/motogp/news/231015/1/lorenzo-marquez-disagree-over-track-changes.html


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[pritch]

Lorenzo really doesn't do himself any favours on the PR side of things.


Yeah I saw that on Twitter and was going to mention it. We don't get many peeks at the character of these guys but a chink opened there.

Lorenzo says his Yamaha does not like first gear corners and he is unhappy about the changes to the track. He said didn't attend the meeting because he wasn't advised about it, but the meeting is held the same time, same place, every race weekend and is attended by the same core group of ten or so riders every time. Marquez is normally the only "alien" in attendance.

If you don't go to the meeting you can't whinge about their decisions. Respect to those who make the effort each time.

I wonder if the next safety meeting will be better attended?

[Autech]

Yup his royal highness doesn't concern himself with the matters of safety, let the peasants decide.
He's just annoyed as the new turn 10 is a very heavy braking area which seems to be the only place the Honda is working this ok year.


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[merv]

Lorenzo makes Marquez look a very mature young man indeed and the one that has his shit together when it comes to safety and dealing with the press.

[pritch]

Not having forked for a video pass this year I can't see the press conference, and have not yet watched qualifying but am about to.

Possibly during the press conference a journo reportedly said,
"One of you must be lying."

Apparently this comment upset Zarco. Does anybody who did pay for a video pass have any idea of the context, who the remark was addressed to and what it concerned?

[Autech]

Rossi's turn http://m.crash.net/motogp/news/231019/1/tech-3-riders-highly-critical-of-rossi-comments.html


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[Crasherfromwayback]

Even the Rossi fans must admit he's become a prize wanker. Pity Rossi dosen't rhyme with Moaner or whinging cunt. :baby:

[mulletman]

Not having forked for a video pass this year I can't see the press conference, and have not yet watched qualifying but am about to.

Possibly during the press conference a journo reportedly said,
"One of you must be lying."

Apparently this comment upset Zarco. Does anybody who did pay for a video pass have any idea of the context, who the remark was addressed to and what it concerned?

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/231015/1/lorenzo-marquez-disagree-over-track-changes.html

This is pretty much what was said..

[pritch]

Even the Rossi fans must admit he's become a prize wanker. Pity Rossi dosen't rhyme with Moaner or whinging cunt. :baby:

That's a bit tough, all Rossi said was that he couldn't understand the need to change the second corner. In comparison Lorenzo made a speech about his unhappiness. But a whinge is a whinge.

Bradders went a bit off the deep at Rossi and was backed up to an extent by Espagero P. As two of the regular attendees at the Safety Commission meeting they are entitled to be pissed off with people who only rarely make the effort to attend and then whinge.

Interesting that Crutchlow thinks the Safety Commission meeting is open to riders from other classes, others say not.

Thanks Autech and Mulletman, I read the thing properly and now understand - the Italian journo was indeed asking a "shit question".

[Crasherfromwayback]

That's a bit tough, all Rossi said was that he couldn't understand the need to change the second corner. In comparison Lorenzo made a speech about his unhappiness. But a whinge is a whinge.

Bradders went a bit off the deep at Rossi and was backed up to an extent by Espagero P. As two of the regular attendees at the Safety Commission meeting they are entitled to be pissed off with people who only rarely make the effort to attend and then whinge.

.

That's my point mate. He hasn't been to a meeting since he spat the dummy at Sepang, and thinks he should have a say in it now? Those meetings should be compulsory.

[actungbaby]

Lorenzo really doesn't do himself any favours on the PR side of things.
http://m.crash.net/motogp/news/231015/1/lorenzo-marquez-disagree-over-track-changes.html


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yeah i say sometimes people react in diffrent ways esp to stress being up agasit it . am person motivates by gee myself up getting cross

I expect Lorenzo was doing the same . eddie lawson used to . sort fighting yourself he left feeling no one liked him . when alot of that chould have been in his own head.

Just pity they didnt talk in back ground insteed ,keept it out of the media , who only amp it up

Was mazed to read how MM was calming influence after french jorno said that qwestion , and things got heated.

[Drew]

He is coming across as prize PR## A man lost his life and this dick complaining about the changes to the course

If he can adjust like the others let him sit the round out. and when mentions the young man name its only by surname. dickOnly mentioning the surname might just be a lazy reporter.

[actungbaby]

Only mentioning the surname might just be a lazy reporter.

wasint the race brillent dew real good watch

[Dadpole]

I think Smith and Pol Espargaro got the wrong Yamaha man with the 'Spitting the dummy' remark. The reported comments from Rossi are not in that category.

Conspiracy theory #547
Interesting remarks from the pair though. Perhaps it is to provoke Yamaha into giving Tech3 no support for the rest of the season so their bailing looks like a shrewd move.*

* I can produce a conspiracy theory for anything. Reasonable rates and quick delivery.

[BMWST?]

Yup his royal highness doesn't concern himself with the matters of safety, let the peasants decide.
He's just annoyed as the new turn 10 is a very heavy braking area which seems to be the only place the Honda is working this ok year.


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get over it.I truly beleive most of these aliens are not normal young men.They are probably not normal anyway,then an enviroment such as the moto gp paddock is hardly the way to get a rounded upbringing.Plus the fact that Lorenzo english isnt that good doesnt help plus the fact that it may be reported by people aslo dealing with language or other issues.He is expressing his viewpoint and opinion.It is likely to be biased ,just like his team mates odd point of view.

[Dadpole]

I watched the press conference and he said what was reported. Even allowing for his difficulty getting the right words in English, it was pretty self-centred. The body language of Marquez and others said what they thought of it.

Top marks to Zarco though. He was rightly pissed off with the reporter and appeared to have been hit hard by the death.

[EJK]

Mr kamikaze does it again!! Oh man I feel so sorry for Iannone...

[pritch]

Anybody who didn't enjoy that (apart from Lorenzo of course) is bloody hard to please. Going to have trouble getting to sleep now...

[EJK]

Anybody who didn't enjoy that (apart from Lorenzo of course) is bloody hard to please. Going to have trouble getting to sleep now...

Easily my fav race of the season.

[Autech]

Why do we watch this again? Oh thats right, cause its awesome.


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[Drew]

I feel bad for Lorenzo and Iannone both. Lorenzo was going very slow into that turn and Iannone had come in hot but didn't expect to make up that much ground.

[Jin]

Amazing race VR an MM. Nice to see the handshake at the end too.

[Grumph]

I feel bad for Lorenzo and Iannone both. Lorenzo was going very slow into that turn and Iannone had come in hot but didn't expect to make up that much ground.

While you may be right, I think Iannone has a depth perception issue. Objects in front of him are closer than he thinks....

I see he's off the back at Assen. An aussie on another forum reckons Jack Miller should be worried. I reckon Miller's got more to worry about than that....

[Drew]

While you may be right, I think Iannone has a depth perception issue. Objects in front of him are closer than he thinks....

I see he's off the back at Assen. An aussie on another forum reckons Jack Miller should be worried. I reckon Miller's got more to worry about than that....
Miller won't see what way he goes from turn two.

[pritch]

I feel bad for Lorenzo and Iannone both. Lorenzo was going very slow into that turn and Iannone had come in hot but didn't expect to make up that much ground.

This. Iannone says the telemetry backs up his assertion that he braked in the same place at the same speed as on other laps and that the collision occurred because Lorenzo had slowed.

It has been suggested that he should have changed line and passed Lorenzo around the outside. I don't know who made the suggestion, but it does read like one that would be a lot easier made from an armchair than the seat of a GP16.

[James Deuce]

This. Iannone says the telemetry backs up his assertion that he braked in the same place at the same speed as on other laps and that the collision occurred because Lorenzo had slowed.

It has been suggested that he should have changed line and passed Lorenzo around the outside. I don't know who made the suggestion, but it does read like one that would be a lot easier made from an armchair than the seat of a GP16.
The BT Sport Commentators stuck up for Lorenzo with exactly that comment. Repeatedly. Poor old Iannone got stitched up by Lorenzo there. Lorenzo was going backwards and now he can blame a DNF on the one guy in the paddock no one trusts.

[ellipsis]

...meanwhile up at the pointy end the one who is undoubtedly amongst those who are the GOAT riders, shows yet again that he is still there...and MM is just unbelievable, and has shown his maturity right the way through, a bad weekend for motorcycle racing...

[EJK]

I don't know. From the footage Iannone was clearly braking at maximum (rear wheel way up in the air) and hanging on tight, hence ran straight into Lorenzo's line. But come on, Lorenzo was like an Auckland Asian woman doing 70kph on the highway!

[Crasherfromwayback]

another forum reckons Jack Miller should be worried. I reckon Miller's got more to worry about than that....

Most over rated wanker ever.

[Grumph]

Most over rated wanker ever.

Tend to agree - or at least can't think of a worse one at the moment, lol...

It's interesting how many nowadays can't make the step up to big bikes compared to the past.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Tend to agree - or at least can't think of a worse one at the moment, lol...

It's interesting how many nowadays can't make the step up to big bikes compared to the past.

Fucking big jump from a 250cc four stroke single to a 260hp monster!

[Drew]

Fucking big jump from a 250cc four stroke single to a 260hp monster!

He's a failed experiment to a degree, but I don't think he'd be any better after moto2 experience.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I don't think he'd be any better after moto2 experience.

We'll prob never know.

[BMWST?]

it seems they have improved the Honda somewhat.Still hard too ride but if they improve some more then MM could be hard to beat from here.I am gonna see if i can find the video clip that he crahed but didnt fall off,right foot of the peg ,front sliding,all the weight on knee and elbow,sometimein the last few laps

[Crasherfromwayback]

The fact that MM has a heap of shit to ride, yet has learnt that bringing it home for points is better than eating kitty litter, should worry the haters. Many championships will follow.

[Autech]

it seems they have improved the Honda somewhat.Still hard too ride but if they improve some more then MM could be hard to beat from here.I am gonna see if i can find the video clip that he crahed but didnt fall off,right foot of the peg ,front sliding,all the weight on knee and elbow,sometimein the last few laps

Looked to me like his elbow hit the ripple strip a bit which added a bit of counter steer whilst leant over. Great save!

Dani was looking good, shame young Maverick didn't hang on to him and try n get to Rossi and Marquez. As it was he certainly had a schooling from DP and JL on how not to make a pass stick. Great stuff. He's going to be a weapon next year on the Yam. Miller actually performed quite well this round imo, remains to be seen if he can continue to improve as the bike does.
The other Marquez is hardly setting the world on fire in moto2 on a great bike so lets not be too harsh on the lad.


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[Jezxa]

Yeah I agree, maverick will be a serious title contender on the Yamaha next year. He's got talent that's for sure

[malcy25]

Just watched - it, not what would have expected from Q2, but the old GOAT and his team seem to be able to crank a set up out on Sunday warm up, even now JB has gone.

AI and JL.....Lorenzo's front tyre I think was what his problem was and causing him to slip down the field. I don;t doubt that AI was braking where and how he normally did, it's just that you sort of need to be able to work around obstacles in the way! I think he got sucked in and then late on could work out what was gonna happen and that's when he grabbed a bigger hand full and stood it on it's nose.

Interesting the old boy has softened with MM relationship. Shaking hands in Parc Ferme ans spoken words elsewhere.

JL: I'm surprised I haven't heard that it was all a joint VR/AI conspiracy that AI took him out.....

Post race press conference saw a little more thaw between MM and VR. I think also VR might been seen at the safety commission meetings more often. He did comment about the Turn 9 (or 10?) infield straight run and that it is quite tight.

[BMWST?]

I think mv overtaking shows two things
1) the suzi is still not quite on par
2)He is showing a bit of respect to his elders

Early on I thought he was gonna stuff it up the inside of VR but then thought maybe not.He didnt show JL the same patience later!

[Drew]

I think mv overtaking shows two things
1) the suzi is still not quite on par
2)He is showing a bit of respect to his elders

Early on I thought he was gonna stuff it up the inside of VR but then thought maybe not.He didnt show JL the same patience later!
Lorenzo was no where near as fast. He didn't need to show patience, he needed to get by and try to catch Pedrosa.

[BMWST?]

Lorenzo was no where near as fast. He didn't need to show patience, he needed to get by and try to catch Pedrosa.
Yep but it was a pretty forceful pass!

[James Deuce]

Yep but it was a pretty forceful pass!
No one fell off.

[BMWST?]

Jorges spirits fell a little

[russd7]

Most over rated wanker ever.

lost my vote after throwing his toys out of the cot and behaving like a spoiled little crybaby in his last race as moto3.

[Crasherfromwayback]

lost my vote after throwing his toys out of the cot and behaving like a spoiled little crybaby in his last race as moto3.

Ditto. Used to think he was all good till that tragic display, after the worst case of dirty riding I've ever seen. Personally, had it been me he rode like that against, I would've smashed him in the face.

[James Deuce]

Jorges spirits fell a little
Not as far as they did later.

[actungbaby]

Only mentioning the surname might just be a lazy reporter.

I think they where all bit affected by the accident who whouldint be some real postive with mm and rossi

I thought might be a thaw after what rossi said at italy to the fans . so cool to see them shake hands life to short .

To carry on about silly things

[Autech]

Yep but it was a pretty forceful pass!

It was a gorgeous pass and was the only way he could outgun JL, who despite going at granny pace, was using all the tricks in the book to keep him behind.
I couldn't quite put my finger on where the Suzuki was lacking vs the Honda, but I think the main thing was Dani wasn't at the limit and was trying to keep his tyres good. Once Dani dropped the hammer it was all over for young Maverick. Classic racing though and what we all want to see, the young guns taking on the old heads.

Speaking of overtaking manoeuvres, pass of the weekend goes to Binder when he backed it in past 2 bikes (Fenati and ____?). Great riding and confidence in the bike beneath him.
Moto3 has some exciting talent I cant wait to see progress.


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[James Deuce]

Speaking of overtaking manoeuvres, pass of the weekend goes to Binder when he backed it in past 2 bikes (Fenati and ____?). Great riding and confidence in the bike beneath him.
Moto3 has some exciting talent I cant wait to see progress.


Save of the weekend as well.

[russd7]

Save of the weekend as well.

hell yes, some real good close racing from flagfall to flagfall in the moto3, almost looking froward to the moto3 than the gp now.

[sugilite]

I don't know. From the footage Iannone was clearly braking at maximum (rear wheel way up in the air) and hanging on tight, hence ran straight into Lorenzo's line. But come on, Lorenzo was like an Auckland Asian woman doing 70kph on the highway!

Yeah, I think Iannone popped up from the fairing and went for the brakes at the usual braking marker, but Lorenzo was much slower mid corner - with his rear wheel already in the air, it is a bit hard to change your line to cut to the outside line. Heat of the battle error. On the plus side, Lorenzo does an impressive "running man" mid air!

Rossi Proved again he is far from a spent force.
Felt the "thawing" between him and MM was a tad more genuine from the MM side. Pleasing to see it none the less.

Fucking awesome race!
:clap:

[george formby]

hell yes, some real good close racing from flagfall to flagfall in the moto3, almost looking froward to the moto3 than the gp now.

Felt that way for awhile now. At times I hide behind a cushion watching moto3, how many bikes can you throw a tea towel over? I'm really hoping Binder keeps it together for the whole season. He's really standing out in moto 3. I mean, FFS, last to first and still 10 laps left to rub everybody's nose in it? Hanging around last night and then just taking his win. Great. Kent looked pretty good most of last season but I reckon Binder is brighter, tougher, and better hung.

Me and the missus are blown away by the current level of racing in all classes, watched motogp this morning, better than breakfast TV. I left the house feeling post orgasmic.

Oh, that's twice in succession Marquez has finished second after a blistering race and been all smiles. Got the points, on the podium, his time is coming I think and maybe so does he.

[Dadpole]

Yeah, I think Iannone popped up from the fairing and went for the brakes at the usual braking marker, but Lorenzo was much slower mid corner

I liked the comment from Colin Edwards that "Every lap is different. There are other riders out there too"

[pritch]

The news this morning is that Ramon Forcada is staying with Yamaha. He will not join JL @ Ducati.

In other news, my laptop has shit itself. This may affect my spelling. :whistle:

[Oscar]

The news this morning is that Ramon Forcada is staying with Yamaha. He will not join JL @ Ducati.

In other news, my laptop has shit itself. This may affect my spelling. :whistle:

Everyone on JL's team is staying at Yamaha except his mechanic.
http://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/lorenzo-won-t-take-his-team-to-ducati-744095/

[Drew]

Everyone on JL's team is staying at Yamaha except his mechanic.
http://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/lorenzo-won-t-take-his-team-to-ducati-744095/
I bet Lorenzo's not rapped with that.

[5150]

I bet Lorenzo's not rapped with that.

Don't really blame them. Who would want to put up with a miserable cunt like him all season....

[Drew]

Don't really blame them. Who would want to put up with a miserable cunt like him all season....

I doubt he's that miserable for the most part. But it's gonna make his transition to a new bike a bit harder.

[Dave-]

I doubt he's that miserable for the most part. But it's gonna make his transition to a new bike a bit harder.

Tells you a lot about how he operates and what his relationship is with the team though.

It's quite possible that it goes in both directions; the team see him as a part number on the bike and he sees the team as tools in the garage.

There's nothing wrong with that, there's certainly pros and cons.

[EJK]

Everyone on JL's team is staying at Yamaha except his mechanic.
http://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/lorenzo-won-t-take-his-team-to-ducati-744095/

You mean Lorenzo's husband?

[5150]

Tells you a lot about how he operates and what his relationship is with the team though.

It's quite possible that it goes in both directions; the team see him as a part number on the bike and he sees the team as tools in the garage.

There's nothing wrong with that, there's certainly pros and cons.

And when you look in contrast at Rossi when he moved to Ducati then back to Yamaha, pretty much his whole entourage moved with him.....

[Brett]

When I win 15 mill in Lotto tonight, we'll build one together mate. But I'll be wanting lots of up and down hill shit. None of this flat world shit!

I really want to build a proper dirt flat track like at Rossi's Ranch.

[BMWST?]

I really want to build a proper dirt flat track like at Rossi's Ranch.

and i am sure with 15million you could,not sure 15 mill would even scratch the surface on a real good circuit

[ellipsis]

I really want to build a proper dirt flat track like at Rossi's Ranch.


...that's a hooning, dirt track...way off a TT dirt track and nowhere near oval, but I know where you're at...:banana::clap:

[Brett]

...that's a hooning, dirt track...way off a TT dirt track and nowhere near oval, but I know where you're at...:banana::clap:

Works for me mate. I just want to get on there and hoon...lean the bike into the corners and SLIIIIIIIDE.

[Reckless]

So the fued should be over cause Rossi is being a knob!
I aint no MM fan but the kid will race anyone he can get within touch with. Last year I believe he was just doing what MM does.
Only difference this year is he seems to have decided to wait till the last 3 laps to do it.
what happened to him last year was unfair and the kids has shown great maturity in toughing it out.

Now Lozenge well thats another matter, pretty sad state of affairs when your team dont want no part of you (except one).
Could well be the telling factor in his success or failure at Ducati! You reap what you sow aye!

Other than that was a brilliant weekend of motoGP

Valentino Rossi says his feud with Marc Marquez is over after the events of the Barcelona MotoGP weekend.

The pair had been at loggerheads since their collision at Sepang last year and Rossi's accusations that Marquez had been trying to help Jorge Lorenzo beat him to the 2015 title.
But their tough fight for Catalunya Grand Prix victory on Sunday, the pair made a point of shaking hands in parc ferme.
Rossi said the death of Moto2 rider Luis Salom in a practice crash on Friday had convinced him it was time to repair relationships.
"When these things happen, all the rest becomes not very important and very small. I think it's the right thing to do," he said.
"We need to stay quiet and stay relaxed because it is a great sport, it is our passion, but it is also dangerous.
"So a normal behaviour and normal feeling with the other riders is also helpful for staying more quiet and more concentrated."
Asked directly if he now felt his relationship with Marquez was better, Rossi replied "yes" and the Spaniard responded by placing his hand on his rival's shoulder.
But Rossi admitted there were still issues between him and Yamaha team-mate Lorenzo.
"The situation with Lorenzo is a little bit different," he said.
"At the beginning of the season, I didn't think 'I won't have any more relationship with him' or not speak with him and not say ciao.
"But from when I came back to Yamaha I was always me and going to Jorge to say 'ciao Jorge, how are you feeling?'
"This year I waited for him to come, but it never happened so you have to speak with him."

[EJK]

So the fued should be over cause Rossi is being a knob!
I aint no MM fan but the kid will race anyone he can get within touch with. Last year I believe he was just doing what MM does.
Only difference this year is he seems to have decided to wait till the last 3 laps to do it.
what happened to him last year was unfair and the kids has shown great maturity in toughing it out.

Now Lozenge well thats another matter, pretty sad state of affairs when your team dont want no part of you (except one).
Could well be the telling factor in his success or failure at Ducati! You reap what you sow aye!

Other than that was a brilliant weekend of motoGP

Valentino Rossi says his feud with Marc Marquez is over after the events of the Barcelona MotoGP weekend.

The pair had been at loggerheads since their collision at Sepang last year and Rossi's accusations that Marquez had been trying to help Jorge Lorenzo beat him to the 2015 title.
But their tough fight for Catalunya Grand Prix victory on Sunday, the pair made a point of shaking hands in parc ferme.
Rossi said the death of Moto2 rider Luis Salom in a practice crash on Friday had convinced him it was time to repair relationships.
"When these things happen, all the rest becomes not very important and very small. I think it's the right thing to do," he said.
"We need to stay quiet and stay relaxed because it is a great sport, it is our passion, but it is also dangerous.
"So a normal behaviour and normal feeling with the other riders is also helpful for staying more quiet and more concentrated."
Asked directly if he now felt his relationship with Marquez was better, Rossi replied "yes" and the Spaniard responded by placing his hand on his rival's shoulder.
But Rossi admitted there were still issues between him and Yamaha team-mate Lorenzo.
"The situation with Lorenzo is a little bit different," he said.
"At the beginning of the season, I didn't think 'I won't have any more relationship with him' or not speak with him and not say ciao.
"But from when I came back to Yamaha I was always me and going to Jorge to say 'ciao Jorge, how are you feeling?'
"This year I waited for him to come, but it never happened so you have to speak with him."


Further proves Jorge is an ignorant fag :sunny:

Fast rider on track, but a cock sucker at the back.

[pritch]

There is a history in Moto GP of riders helping another of the same nationality to win a title. Rossi's claim that 93 was helping 99 was not at all outrageous, if he was right it would not have been the first such instance. His mate Capirossi was the beneficiary of such behaviour IIRC so Rossi would be well aware of the possibility.

The latest Paddock Podcast covers Barcelona, but there will be another shortly with a wrap up of the TT week. These can be accessed from the Motomatters site, DuckDuckGo, or for the carefree, Google.

The latest Motopod podcast also covers Barcelona.

No GP this weekend, guess I'll have to watch the All Blacks.