MotoGP 2017

[bogan]

Not enough. As I said, it will take many years and billions of dollars to tweak any alternative design to the same level as forks.

However the big problem with the Elf bikes was the designer was a car guy (Andre De Cortanze) who was trying to approach designing bikes the same way as designing cars, which was to minimize weight transfer. He failed to understand that bikes are fundamentally different to cars and require weight transfer to work correctly. Another big problem was they kept trying many different technologies instead of just developing a new chassis + front end. They tried carbon fibre chassis, a crazy steering system and other way out stuff. But in the end reliability was the biggest problem with Ron Haslam only getting a very months of reliable running at the end of the 3 years, nowhere near enough time to make something a winner.

Wasn't Tesi or whoever it was trying to throw one of them bikes with the front swingarm into the mix a while back? I seem to recal one of the test rider's comments something along the lines of that it'd be fucking quick if he'd learnt to ride on it, but felt he couldn't shake the instinct and need to feel weight transfer with forks to really push it into corners.

[Mental Trousers]

Wasn't Tesi or whoever it was trying to throw one of them bikes with the front swingarm into the mix a while back? I seem to recal one of the test rider's comments something along the lines of that it'd be fucking quick if he'd learnt to ride on it, but felt he couldn't shake the instinct and need to feel weight transfer with forks to really push it into corners.

The Bimota Tesi? I've seen reviews that are along those lines eg they're braking as late and as hard as possible and the Bimota test rider goes another 20m past them.

Most funny front ends are designed to separate out the various forces and can vary the amount of dive under brakes. The lack of dive is one of the biggest barriers to rider acceptance as every rider is used to diving under brakes and no dive triggers survival instincts, eg no dive = OMG OMG I'M GONNA DIE.

[Dave-]

Imagine if BMW got into MotoGP :love:

[pritch]

JL has apparently said that he could win at Qatar - if the Ducati had wings. I respectfully suggest he contacts Red Bull urgent like. :whistle:

http://www.bikesportnews.com/news/news-detail/with-wings-we-could-win-at-qatar-says-lorenzo

[Autech]

JL has apparently said that he could win at Qatar - if the Ducati had wings. I respectfully suggest he contacts Red Bull urgent like. :whistle:

http://www.bikesportnews.com/news/news-detail/with-wings-we-could-win-at-qatar-says-lorenzo

Honestly I will be surprised if he or Dovi does not win at Qatar. Time will tell though and of course as always my heart is behind Dani, so that cunt better win it.

[Drew]

Honestly I will be surprised if he or Dovi does not win at Qatar. Time will tell though and of course as always my heart is behind Dani, so that cunt better win it.

Why would that be a surprise? I'm half expecting one to crash and the other to run off at turn two and be ficing around at the back for the rest of the race.

[Autech]

Why would that be a surprise? I'm half expecting one to crash and the other to run off at turn two and be ficing around at the back for the rest of the race.

Considering Dovi came in a very close 2nd place the previous 2 years on a bike which may not be as good as the 2017 machine they should be able to do the business, even if it's only for that race. Going to be a farking interesting season that is for sure.

Wonder how Jorge will react if his "#2" rider starts beating him every weekend?

Still up to doing that $100 betting challenge? I'll beg the wife for some money :buggerd:

[Drew]

Considering Dovi came in a very close 2nd place the previous 2 years on a bike which may not be as good as the 2017 machine they should be able to do the business, even if it's only for that race. Going to be a farking interesting season that is for sure.

Wonder how Jorge will react if his "#2" rider starts beating him every weekend?

Still up to doing that $100 betting challenge? I'll beg the wife for some money :buggerd:

Ummm, last year's bike was better than this one.

[jasonu]

To be honest mate...I think you're kidding yourself. If the factories thought there was 1/4 sec a lap improvement with something no one else had...they'd be testing the fuck out of them.

You mean like in F1.

[pritch]

Honestly I will be surprised if he or Dovi does not win at Qatar.
Prior to the last test the pundits were picking George to do well at Qatar so it won't be a surprise if he does. Apparently the track suits the Ducati. Or at least minimises its disadvantages?

[speights_bud]

Did you find the page Pritch?

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170224/8608e51af9559696ed1d8f3f50bdd2db.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170224/d4f15028253a7efc4419813a00ded28c.jpg

[pritch]

Last year in this thread during a discussion with J.A.W. about crap commentators, I mentioned a young Australian guy named Harry Lloyd who lived in Europe and worked for Dorna at the time and had started doing commentary on the CEV series. Last I heard he was back in Britain doing PR for Mahindra.

It seems he is moving up, I was pleased to hear him working with Steve English (who is Irish) on the WSBK broadcast from Phillip Island. Lloyd's knowledge of motorcycle racing events that happened before he was born is startling. Be interesting to see how he goes as a commentator. I wish him well, with luck he could replace Nick Harris sooner rather than later.

[speights_bud]

Last year in this thread during a discussion with J.A.W. about crap commentators, I mentioned a young Australian guy named Harry Lloyd who lived in Europe and worked for Dorna at the time and had started doing commentary on the CEV series. Last I heard he was back in Britain doing PR for Mahindra.

It seems he is moving up, I was pleased to hear him working with Steve English (who is Irish) on the WSBK broadcast from Phillip Island. Lloyd's knowledge of motorcycle racing events that happened before he was born is startling. Be interesting to see how he goes as a commentator. I wish him well, with luck he could replace Nick Harris sooner rather than later.
Is he the young guy who's been doing some commentary alongside Harris in the off season?

[pritch]

Is he the young guy who's been doing some commentary alongside Harris in the off season?

Dunno I havent heard that. Lloyd did the Superbikes today, he's got a fairly obviously Australian accent.

[gonzo_akl]

Hi,

We are heading to Mugello this year, any tips, recommendations of which stands to sit etc.

thanks in advance.

[Moise]

Just buy some Rossi merch. You'll be able to sit anywhere and the Rossi fans won't throw stuff at you.


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[BMWST?]

Dunno I havent heard that. Lloyd did the Superbikes today, he's got a fairly obviously Australian accent.
jeepers...i thought Kiwis spoke rapidly This guy was barely understandable!

[roogazza]

jeepers...i thought Kiwis spoke rapidly This guy was barely understandable!
If he slowed down a bit it may help with the stuttering and self correction ? He was better than the previous screaming poms anyway and worked in well with the other Irish dude.
Why they feel the need to jabber away flat out I don't know,less chat would be better.

[pritch]

Poor George.

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/sport/motogp/2017/march/motogp-lorenzo-not-ready-to-race/


And if you haven't visited the "Dear George" page on Facebook yet it's worth a scroll down.

[speights_bud]

Poor George.

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/sport/motogp/2017/march/motogp-lorenzo-not-ready-to-race/


And if you haven't visited the "Dear George" page on Facebook yet it's worth a scroll down.
This morning was another beauty, best page of the year so far.

[merv]

Meanwhile Casey is still smiling while he's fishing :cool::lol:

[Dave-]

Hi,

We are heading to Mugello this year, any tips, recommendations of which stands to sit etc.

thanks in advance.

I booked flights to catch the Mugello Motogp.....

THEN THE FUCKING CUNTS CHANGED THE FUCKING DATES THE FUCKING WANKERS.

Fuck 'em, I'll be at the IOM instead.

[roogazza]

Ya ! I think its the 4th June this year..... :banana::drool:

[Dave-]

Ya ! I think its the 4th June this year..... :banana::drool:

I land in Zurich on the 18th of May, the race was on the 21st.

I'm still doing:

24 hours of Nurbergring - 25 and 26th of May
IOM TT - I'm there from the 31st till the 13th of June
24 hours of Le Mans 17/18th of June


Then I have till the 22nd of July to zoom around Europe and the UK.

Mugello was going to be a real jewel though, I was really looking forward to being in the middle of that crazy yellow hill.

[gonzo_akl]

I booked flights to catch the Mugello Motogp.....

THEN THE FUCKING CUNTS CHANGED THE FUCKING DATES THE FUCKING WANKERS.

Fuck 'em, I'll be at the IOM instead.

Yeah sorry to hear that, we very nearly got caught pout in the same way, something to be said for procrastination. Our plan is to head to the Barcelona race the following weekend before heading back to the UK and home.


looking forward to Mugello atmosphere.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Our plan is to head to the Barcelona race the following weekend before heading back to the UK and home.


looking forward to Mugello atmosphere.

Fucking awesome! I loved Barcelona being a huge Gaudi fan. Very jealous of your trip!

[sugilite]

I see Soup has posted an article bemoaning the fact Dorna are ignoring them, and they really do have a point.
https://www.superbikeplanet.com/hey-dorna-u-s/
However, They need to acknowledge that the Nascar brigade that ran bike racing for a few years over there is what has really decimated the American talent pool.
With Rainy in charge they will recover and be back to producing World talent :yes:

[Dave-]

Yeah sorry to hear that, we very nearly got caught pout in the same way, something to be said for procrastination. Our plan is to head to the Barcelona race the following weekend before heading back to the UK and home.


looking forward to Mugello atmosphere.

There's a few GPs after 24h le mans that I could get to, I'll play that bit by ear though.

[pritch]

With a bit of luck and planning it's possible to fill yer boots. One local went for a month and got to see three races: 2 GPs separated by a WSBK round IIRC.

[roogazza]

With a bit of luck and planning it's possible to fill yer boots. One local went for a month and got to see three races: 2 GPs separated by a WSBK round IIRC.

In a moment of madness I offered to take the wife this year.
She'll no doubt enjoy the delights of Firenze and the Toscana,but I bet ya, its gunna cost me a shit load more than the past ten years in Italy. :crazy:

[pritch]

In a moment of madness I offered to take the wife this year.
She'll no doubt enjoy the delights of Firenze and the Toscana,but I bet ya, its gunna cost me a shit load more than the past ten years in Italy. :crazy:

Some guys I know had built several rifles at home. It started out sensible enough but eventually ended up with big game rifles. There being no game big enough around these parts, off they went to Oz for a buffalo hunt. The wives weren't the least bit interested in hunting so they stayed in Brisbane with the credit cards.

Saving money by building your own gun can work out real expensive.

[BMWST?]

With a bit of luck and planning it's possible to fill yer boots. One local went for a month and got to see three races: 2 GPs separated by a WSBK round IIRC.
yes i have looked at this and tried to workout a 3 or 4 week bike trip round the alps with sbk and motgp weekends.Never found a satisfactory schedule. Might be better now with more rounds than ever!

[roogazza]

329233
Doocati show their Fairing/Wing combination. F1 anyone ?

[speights_bud]

329233
Doocati show their Fairing/Wing combination. F1 anyone ?
Be interested to find out what riders think. With wind etc on hands and arms

[roogazza]

Times at 10pm local time:

Pos No Rider Bike Time Diff Prev
1 25 Maverick Viñales Yamaha M1 1:54.455
2 46 Valentino Rossi Yamaha M1 1:54.732 0.277 0.277
3 94 Jonas Folger Yamaha M1 1:54.917 0.462 0.185
4 35 Cal Crutchlow Honda RC213V 1:55.032 0.577 0.115
5 41 Aleix Espargaro Aprilia RS-GP 1:55.121 0.666 0.089
6 93 Marc Marquez Honda RC213V 1:55.196 0.741 0.075
7 19 Alvaro Bautista Ducati GP16 1:55.245 0.790 0.049
8 99 Jorge Lorenzo Ducati GP17 1:55.344 0.889 0.099
9 5 Johann Zarco Yamaha M1 1:55.354 0.899 0.010
10 17 Karel Abraham Ducati GP15 1:55.420 0.965 0.066
11 4 Andrea Dovizioso Ducati GP17 1:55.583 1.128 0.163
12 9 Danilo Petrucci Ducati GP17 1:55.680 1.225 0.097
13 45 Scott Redding Ducati GP16 1:55.699 1.244 0.019
14 76 Loris Baz Ducati GP15 1:55.808 1.353 0.109
15 26 Dani Pedrosa Honda RC213V 1:55.875 1.420 0.067
16 29 Andrea Iannone Suzuki GSX-RR 1:55.960 1.505 0.085
17 42 Alex Rins Suzuki GSX-RR 1:56.110 1.655 0.150
18 53 Tito Rabat Honda RC213V 1:56.214 1.759 0.104
19 43 Jack Miller Honda RC213V 1:56.251 1.796 0.037
20 22 Sam Lowes Aprilia RS-GP 1:56.276 1.821 0.025
21 44 Pol Espargaro KTM RC16 1:56.648 2.193 0.372
22 36 Mika Kallio KTM RC16 1:57.688 3.233 1.040
23 38 Bradley Smith KTM RC16 1:57.791 3.336 0.103

[pritch]

Interesting comment by Simon Patterson that gives texture to the lap times.
Folger did one lap in the 1.54s
Vinales did three spread over two runs.
Rossi did three in four laps.

There have been a few crashes, Rossi's hand got caught under his bike in a gravel trap and has some new holes. In addition he has hurt a knee and an elbow IIRC.
He says there is pain but he will be OK.

I hope they are all OK for the season start.

[pritch]

Casey having a little tease on Twitter. "Out of retirement." But it's not him - it's this:

[EJK]

1 week left!!! Wooooo!!!!

[george formby]

:yes:
I've seen very little in the way of predictions in this thread so far. The last two seasons have been off the hook and I have no idea what is going to happen this season. I'm not expecting boring.

[Dadpole]

My pick would have to be a Spaniard with a first name starting with M...

[Luckylegs]

...one andrea iannone to surprise every one on the suzuki and finish a phenominal second in the championship.

[roogazza]

1 week left!!! Wooooo!!!!

Been hanging out for this first race. We can say its this weekend now !!!!!! :laugh:

[pritch]

The current Moto2 Moto3 test is a bit of a bust. The first night was cancelled due to heavy rain, they can't ride on a wet track at night because of all the reflections.

As of three hours ago no bikes were on track because of high wind, there was no rain, but it was threatening.

Not weather you normally associate with the desert.

[Autech]

:yes:
I've seen very little in the way of predictions in this thread so far. The last two seasons have been off the hook and I have no idea what is going to happen this season. I'm not expecting boring.

Anyone still keen to do the $100 betting challenge?

[Dadpole]

And a little boy waits...

Any picks for Moto2 and Moto3? I would take a punt on Olivera in Moto2. The large fly in the ointment would be his team-mate Binder.

[Dadpole]

Anyone still keen to do the $100 betting challenge?

I had a look at the TAB site and am even more confused. Shouting at the screen didn't help either

[Autech]

I had a look at the TAB site and am even more confused. Shouting at the screen didn't help either

Yeah it's a bit stupid from what I've seen. Just begging the accountant to release the funds so I can do it.
I think we should open another thread somewhere if we do it to keep track of account balances and bets etc.

Looks like they only have the overall championship available to be bet on currently.
DP is paying $15 and AD $17, could be worth a flutter I'll personally be putting down a wee bit on my main man just in case he decides to ride well and not hurt himself this year.

My picks this weekend are hard to choose,
I think MV, MM, AD and JL all have a shot at winning, with CC, DP and VR all capable of putting it on the podium also so we could be in for one of the biggest factory bike battle I've ever witnessed with all 3 of the top manufacturers going at it. Moto3 in MotoGP would be nice.

Can't help but think the Ducati's will trump though.

[EJK]

Anyone still keen to do the $100 betting challenge?

I'm betting a bucket of KFC on VR for the win this season.

It's really tough to guess this weekend's finishes. Will wait till FP3/4.

[pritch]

A post appeared from Jorge on Twitter this morning. I don't follow him, one of the journos must have forwarded it.

"If she's amazing she won't be easy. If she's easy, she won't be amazing." - Bob Marley

And he asks us to believe that's about girls not bikes?:innocent:

[puddytat]

Ah......so what day is the race our time. Is it Monday?

[EJK]

Ah......so what day is the race our time. Is it Monday?

Looks like it. Calling my boss I'll be sick in the morning.

[pritch]

For those thinking of having a flutter but who have zero information to go on, David Emmetts Motomatters page has a link to the latest Paddock Pass podcast. It starts out with discussion of how the bikes and riders performed throughout winter testing. The link is lower right side of the page. Good luck.

https://motomatters.com

[Autech]

All right so I have put $100 into a tab account. Lets do this!
Currently only able to bet on overall champion for the year. Best paying that actually have a shot are Dani and Dovi as I mentioned before, though JL has 5.50 on him which I think might be worth a flutter, I'm pretty sure in the right hands that bike would have won a few more races last year.

Trying to decide where to open the thread... In racing?

What I will do is reserve some posts up the top to keep track of where everyone is sitting after each round.

[Dadpole]

So you can't bet on individual races/riders? Seems like a Micky Mouse system to me...

[speights_bud]

http://www.bikeme.tv/index.php/2017-motogp-preview-marks-bitches/

[Autech]

So you can't bet on individual races/riders? Seems like a Micky Mouse system to me...

You will be able to I imagine once the race weekend starts, I'm guessing they change the odds on riders as the weekend progresses and a favourite is known. Anyone who has done the TAB betting care to comment? Drew?

[Autech]

http://www.bikeme.tv/index.php/2017-motogp-preview-marks-bitches/

Sounds like another Rossi fan bitch to me fantasizing about a 10th title which isn't likely.
If he can do it vs the riders we are presented with this year hats off to him, anyone who wins this year will have overcome one the greatest GP paddocks there has ever been. IMO.

[speights_bud]

Sounds like another Rossi fan bitch to me fantasizing about a 10th title which isn't likely.
If he can do it vs the riders we are presented with this year hats off to him, anyone who wins this year will have overcome one the greatest GP paddocks there has ever been. IMO.

Did you read the whole article? I think it was a pretty nicely rounded piss take.

[Autech]

Did you read the whole article? I think it was a pretty nicely rounded piss take.

It was a good piss take, just everyone copped it except his #46 :D

I think we could form a good blurb just from all our opinions of the riders on this thread.

[diesel pig]

So you can't bet on individual races/riders? Seems like a Micky Mouse system to me...

Yes you can you just have click the 'other motorcycles' tab on the motorcycle page but it must be a race by race thing since only Qatar is there now

[speights_bud]

It was a good piss take, just everyone copped it except his #46 :D

I guess it's ok because the writer confessed his orientation....

[pritch]

Sounds like another Rossi fan bitch to me fantasizing about a 10th title which isn't likely.
.

I just read that. It's brilliant. It's funny, and the comments about the riders seem on the mark. How you got "Rossi fan bitch" out of that I don't know.

It would seem your assessment of Rossi's chances are lower than any of the pundits I've read or listened to so far. Nobody is saying outright he will win, but experience over the years has taught them not to say he won't. The Yamaha has been rated top bike in testing and there's only two guys in the Yamaha team. One is new to the bike but very fast. The old guy could be in with a shot.

The comments about Pedro in that article were interesting. Pedro is rated to be something of a dark horse this year but he still has to beat his team mate.

JL has to master the Ducati and so far apparently he hasn't found much to smile about. Don't be misled by a good performance at Qatar, the track seems to suite Ducati.

The comments about Miller seem right too. Miller is not there to learn this year, he needs to be at the front of the field or that Superbike prediction may come true.

[Zedder]

http://www.bikeme.tv/index.php/2017-motogp-preview-marks-bitches/


Yep, worth it. Thanks.

[george formby]

Is it ok for a grown man, well, wilting, to bounce in their seat and squeal a little thinking about the coming season?

I'm going to chuck some money at the TAB, too. The missus has an uncanny knack of picking the podiums in moto 2 and 3. Moto GP this year could be exceedingly unpredictable which plays into my ignorant court.

As Boris said, "feels".

[Autech]

I just read that. It's brilliant. It's funny, and the comments about the riders seem on the mark. How you got "Rossi fan bitch" out of that I don't know.

It would seem your assessment of Rossi's chances are lower than any of the pundits I've read or listened to so far. Nobody is saying outright he will win, but experience over the years has taught them not to say he won't. The Yamaha has been rated top bike in testing and there's only two guys in the Yamaha team. One is new to the bike but very fast. The old guy could be in with a shot.

The comments about Pedro in that article were interesting. Pedro is rated to be something of a dark horse this year but he still has to beat his team mate.

JL has to master the Ducati and so far apparently he hasn't found much to smile about. Don't be misled by a good performance at Qatar, the track seems to suite Ducati.

The comments about Miller seem right too. Miller is not there to learn this year, he needs to be at the front of the field or that Superbike prediction may come true.

Never said I disagreed with him! He said some hard truths about most of the riders, some of it dribble though.
Rossis chances are high, I just think that Maverick is going to be a young gun too far on top of all the other talent. Rossi will be there or there abouts most races but to win the title? I dunno... I hope so as I'd love to see him show them all up.
The bitch ass rossi fan comment was to get the fanbois on here wound up :D

Oh and speaking of fanbois; Pedrosa will finish ahead of MM this weekend, you heard it here first.

All that are interested my $100 betting thread is now open, register interest there.




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[pritch]

I visited the TAB site, but as always thought the odds on offer were tending miserly. The final disincentive though was my history with the fantasy league. As soon as I put a rider in my team his career went into decline. Not wishing to jinx anybody I won't take a punt.

Again, good luck to those who do.

[Autech]

I visited the TAB site, but as always thought the odds on offer were tending miserly. The final disincentive though was my history with the fantasy league. As soon as I put a rider in my team his career went into decline. Not wishing to jinx anybody I won't take a punt.

Again, good luck to those who do.

No worries mate I was hoping you would as we quite often disagree on winners, therefore your picks would always lose :D.

Anyone else keen? I think Dadpole and Drew were keen earlier on when I came up with the silly idea? So far only EJK has put his name forward, going to be a shit challenge if it's just 2 of us.

Be a good laugh and might make the season that little bit more exciting (not that it needs to be by the looks).

[EJK]

I'll also chip in $10 for the winner :drinknsin

[Dadpole]

Dadpole is in.. But Dadpole is a tight-arsed bastard who will only put $10.00 on the first race.

My pick is:
Dovi ($10.00 paying $80)
Vinales
Rossi

[speights_bud]

From the 2014 Motogp playstation 3 game.

Seems relevant...

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170323/85c61109ca61cb6640894933f41661ed.jpg

[Dadpole]

I wouldn't put it past him to win though. He has the talent, and the thought of bragging rights over Rossi will provide the desire.

[sugilite]

http://www.bikeme.tv/index.php/2017-motogp-preview-marks-bitches/
Brilliant read. This excerpt had me in near tears "Brad Smith is really only racing Crutchlow, and since we get the Pommy feed, there will be unseemly levels of excitement from the commentators each time Bradly is devastating the mid-field in his charge to other parts of the middle of the pack." :laugh:

[mulletman]

FP1

Vinales
Marquez
Pedrosa
Folger
Lorenzo
Baz
Crutchlow
Zarco
Rossi

[speights_bud]

Going to throw a prediction out there for Sunday.

Vinales
Marquez
That puta Rossi
Crutchlow
Pedro.

[Autech]

Going to throw a prediction out there for Sunday.

Vinales
Marquez
That puta Rossi
Crutchlow
Pedro.

Hem hem.

Dooocati.

[EJK]

Hem hem.

Dooocati.

I wish I can bet Dovi on podium finish on TAB.

It looked like Rossi and Iannone was just riding casually.

Was surprised to see Zarco and Folger finish in top 10.

Was happy to see Abraham crash out :motu:

[speights_bud]

Hem hem.

Dooocati.
Crash and burn.

[Dadpole]

Any predictions for moto 2 & 3?

I think there are at least 12 riders in Moto3 capable of winning this weekend.
At this stage I will tip Olivera in Moto2.

[pritch]

Was surprised to see Zarco and Folger finish in top 10.



Folger was one of the stars of winter testing and he was as high as second fastest in FP1 at one point. A podium might be withing his reach during the season.

One pundit was saying MM's new found maturity might go out the window in the face of serious challenges from MV in particular or to a lesser extent Pedro or Rossi.

One of the Honda engines must have shit itself in practice? Crutchlow returned to the pits on a scooter, his boots reported to be full of oil.

[EJK]

Nobody's mentioned anything about winglets yet so...

Looks like Ducati has gone back to early GP16 style. Wonder how it'll cope this weekend. Lorenzo seems be doing pretty good without it.

Suzuki's aero fairings looks awesome!! Wonder if that'll be passed down to production GSXRs in a few years time?

[Autech]

Folger was one of the stars of winter testing and he was as high as second fastest in FP1 at one point. A podium might be withing his reach during the season.

One pundit was saying MM's new found maturity might go out the window in the face of serious challenges from MV in particular or to a lesser extent Pedro or Rossi.

I did a whiteboard session with my work mate and worked out that this year the "just finishing" method might not be enough for a championship this year. Last year MM did not have DP taking points from him when he wasn't on form and the Suzuki's n Ducati's weren't quite good enough to rob him of points often. That and Rossi and Lorenzo both biffed bikes from good solid finishing spots when they were caught out by the Mitchies all which surmounted to, in my opinion, Marquez's best championship yet.

This year the "just finishing" might end up with lots of riders/bikes finishing ahead. Here's the riders I think are capable this year of finishing in the top 5 every race:
DP
MM
VR
MV
JL
AD
AI (more likely to crash when up there)
AR (once he gets on pace which he's shown promise so far)
CC (the real dark horse)

That's 9 riders all going for good points, an off race might end up with you in 10th place...

You'll also see the likes of Folger and Zarco up there on occasion too so it's going to be a shit fight for every point you can get.

Bring it on I say.

[pritch]

I did a whiteboard session with my work mate and worked out that this year the "just finishing" method might not be enough for a championship this year. Last year MM did not have DP taking points from him when he wasn't on form and the Suzuki's n Ducati's weren't quite good enough to rob him of points often. That and Rossi and Lorenzo both biffed bikes from good solid finishing spots when they were caught out by the Mitchies all which surmounted to, in my opinion, Marquez's best championship yet.

This year the "just finishing" might end up with lots of riders/bikes finishing ahead. Here's the riders I think are capable this year of finishing in the top 5 every race:
DP
MM
VR
MV
JL
AD
AI (more likely to crash when up there)
AR (once he gets on pace which he's shown promise so far)
CC (the real dark horse)

That's 9 riders all going for good points, an off race might end up with you in 10th place...

You'll also see the likes of Folger and Zarco up there on occasion too so it's going to be a shit fight for every point you can get.

Bring it on I say.

I'm no mathematician but I'm not sure if there can be more than "five finishing in the top five every race" but even more serious, you left out Jonas Fucking Folger.

https://www.facebook.com/deargeorge99/photos/a.1396074200426574.1073741828.1396023613764966/1423324647701529/?type=3&theater

[speights_bud]

One of the Honda engines must have shit itself in practice? Crutchlow returned to the pits on a scooter, his boots reported to be full of oil.

Post practice Crutchlow mentioned they had an oil leak. That's about all he had to say

[BMWST?]

fp2 a bit of a game changer.It had rained so grip ws low .The factory boys could be in for a real up and down season
If they have a bad day they could be out of the top ten! MV first "official crash


<tbody>
1
45
Scott REDDING (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Scott+Redding)
GBR
OCTO Pramac Racing
Ducati
343.2
1'55.085



2
4
Andrea DOVIZIOSO (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Andrea+Dovizioso)
ITA
Ducati Team
Ducati
347.8
1'55.185
0.100 / 0.100


3
94
Jonas FOLGER (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Jonas+Folger)
GER
Monster Yamaha Tech 3
Yamaha
341.0
1'55.208
0.123 / 0.023


4
5
Johann ZARCO (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Johann+Zarco)
FRA
Monster Yamaha Tech 3
Yamaha
344.8
1'55.316
0.231 / 0.108


5
25
Maverick VIÑALES (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Maverick+Vi%C3%B1ales)
SPA
Movistar Yamaha MotoGP
Yamaha
342.7
1'55.378
0.293 / 0.062


6
46
Valentino ROSSI (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Valentino+Rossi)
ITA
Movistar Yamaha MotoGP
Yamaha
341.7
1'55.414
0.329 / 0.036


7
19
Alvaro BAUTISTA (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Alvaro+Bautista)
SPA
Pull&Bear Aspar Team
Ducati
349.6
1'55.581
0.496 / 0.167


8
99
Jorge LORENZO (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Jorge+Lorenzo)
SPA
Ducati Team
Ducati
347.8
1'55.604
0.519 / 0.023


9
93
Marc MARQUEZ (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Marc+Marquez)
SPA
Repsol Honda Team
Honda
341.5
1'55.698
0.613 / 0.094


10
41
Aleix ESPARGARO (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Aleix+Espargaro)
SPA
Aprilia Racing Team Gresini
Aprilia
339.9
1'55.750
0.665 / 0.052


11
9
Danilo PETRUCCI (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Danilo+Petrucci)
ITA
OCTO Pramac Racing
Ducati
344.3
1'55.760
0.675 / 0.010


12
35
Cal CRUTCHLOW (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Cal+Crutchlow)
GBR
LCR Honda
Honda
341.2
1'55.828
0.743 / 0.068


13
43
Jack MILLER (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Jack+Miller)
AUS
EG 0,0 Marc VDS
Honda
341.7
1'55.959
0.874 / 0.131


14
17
Karel ABRAHAM (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Karel+Abraham)
CZE
Pull&Bear Aspar Team
Ducati
345.7
1'56.003
0.918 / 0.044


15
29
Andrea IANNONE (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Andrea+Iannone)
ITA
Team SUZUKI ECSTAR
Suzuki
337.3
1'56.069
0.984 / 0.066


16
42
Alex RINS (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Alex+Rins)
SPA
Team SUZUKI ECSTAR
Suzuki
341.7
1'56.179
1.094 / 0.110


17
53
Tito RABAT (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Tito+Rabat)
SPA
EG 0,0 Marc VDS
Honda
343.0
1'56.368
1.283 / 0.189


18
76
Loris BAZ (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Loris+Baz)
FRA
Reale Avintia Racing
Ducati
339.1
1'56.501
1.416 / 0.133


19
26
Dani PEDROSA (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Dani+Pedrosa)
SPA
Repsol Honda Team
Honda
343.2
1'56.530
1.445 / 0.029


20
8
Hector BARBERA (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Hector+Barbera)
SPA
Reale Avintia Racing
Ducati
345.8
1'56.934
1.849 / 0.404


21
44
Pol ESPARGARO (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Pol+Espargaro)
SPA
Red Bull KTM Factory Racing
KTM
342.7
1'57.116
2.031 / 0.182


22
22
Sam LOWES (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Sam+Lowes)
GBR
Aprilia Racing Team Gresini
Aprilia
336.1
1'57.517
2.432 / 0.401


23
38
Bradley SMITH (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Bradley+Smith)
GBR
Red Bull KTM Factory Racing
KTM
338.8
1'58.020
2.935 / 0.503

</tbody>
Weather Conditions:

| Track Condition: Dry| Air: 22º|Humidity: 84%| Ground: 25ºRecords:

[BMWST?]

MV back at the top Iannone comes good


<tbody>
1
25
Maverick VIÑALES (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Maverick+Vi%C3%B1ales)
SPA
Movistar Yamaha MotoGP
Yamaha
339.5
1'54.834



2
29
Andrea IANNONE (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Andrea+Iannone)
ITA
Team SUZUKI ECSTAR
Suzuki
337.5
1'54.848
0.014 / 0.014


3
5
Johann ZARCO (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Johann+Zarco)
FRA
Monster Yamaha Tech 3
Yamaha
341.0
1'55.008
0.174 / 0.160


4
4
Andrea DOVIZIOSO (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Andrea+Dovizioso)
ITA
Ducati Team
Ducati
348.0
1'55.042
0.208 / 0.034


5
26
Dani PEDROSA (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Dani+Pedrosa)
SPA
Repsol Honda Team
Honda
344.0
1'55.113
0.279 / 0.071


6
35
Cal CRUTCHLOW (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Cal+Crutchlow)
GBR
LCR Honda
Honda
339.8
1'55.211
0.377 / 0.098


7
93
Marc MARQUEZ (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Marc+Marquez)
SPA
Repsol Honda Team
Honda
343.0
1'55.296
0.462 / 0.085


8
9
Danilo PETRUCCI (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Danilo+Petrucci)
ITA
OCTO Pramac Racing
Ducati
344.7
1'55.435
0.601 / 0.139


9
99
Jorge LORENZO (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Jorge+Lorenzo)
SPA
Ducati Team
Ducati
348.7
1'55.461
0.627 / 0.026


10
41
Aleix ESPARGARO (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Aleix+Espargaro)
SPA
Aprilia Racing Team Gresini
Aprilia
344.8
1'55.634
0.800 / 0.173


11
19
Alvaro BAUTISTA (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Alvaro+Bautista)
SPA
Pull&Bear Aspar Team
Ducati
347.0
1'55.676
0.842 / 0.042


12
94
Jonas FOLGER (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Jonas+Folger)
GER
Monster Yamaha Tech 3
Yamaha
338.3
1'55.713
0.879 / 0.037


13
46
Valentino ROSSI (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Valentino+Rossi)
ITA
Movistar Yamaha MotoGP
Yamaha
342.6
1'55.790
0.956 / 0.077


14
17
Karel ABRAHAM (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Karel+Abraham)
CZE
Pull&Bear Aspar Team
Ducati
345.6
1'56.095
1.261 / 0.305


15
42
Alex RINS (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Alex+Rins)
SPA
Team SUZUKI ECSTAR
Suzuki
341.3
1'56.249
1.415 / 0.154


16
53
Tito RABAT (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Tito+Rabat)
SPA
EG 0,0 Marc VDS
Honda
339.9
1'56.617
1.783 / 0.368


17
45
Scott REDDING (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Scott+Redding)
GBR
OCTO Pramac Racing
Ducati
342.7
1'56.662
1.828 / 0.045


18
43
Jack MILLER (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Jack+Miller)
AUS
EG 0,0 Marc VDS
Honda
341.7
1'56.692
1.858 / 0.030


19
22
Sam LOWES (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Sam+Lowes)
GBR
Aprilia Racing Team Gresini
Aprilia
336.3
1'56.854
2.020 / 0.162


20
76
Loris BAZ (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Loris+Baz)
FRA
Reale Avintia Racing
Ducati
338.3
1'56.935
2.101 / 0.081


21
8
Hector BARBERA (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Hector+Barbera)
SPA
Reale Avintia Racing
Ducati
345.8
1'57.005
2.171 / 0.070


22
44
Pol ESPARGARO (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Pol+Espargaro)
SPA
Red Bull KTM Factory Racing
KTM
340.1
1'57.630
2.796 / 0.625


23
38
Bradley SMITH (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Bradley+Smith)
GBR
Red Bull KTM Factory Racing
KTM
336.8
1'57.654
2.820 / 0.024

</tbody>
Weather Conditions:

| Track Condition: Dry| Air: 22º|Humidity: 89%| Ground: 22ºRecords:

[BMWST?]

I admit i am an MV fan but he IS clocking impressive times!.I am thinking he wont start as well as the others as starting was a bit average last season.

[Dadpole]

I gather the starting problem was mainly down to the Suzuki as Asparagus had issues on it too.

Interesting FP3 though. In Moto2 the VDS team look very good. I note that some UK bookies have Fenati favourite for the Moto3 crown.

[EJK]

I admit i am an MV fan but he IS clocking impressive times!.I am thinking he wont start as well as the others as starting was a bit average last season.

In the past season he's always been quick on the clock but struggled during actual racing when things go aggressive and traffic is in the way. If he takes the pole position then he just might stay in first place and win the race?

Bloody hell Iannone seemed toying everyone. "Meh I'll just cruise along..." and at the last lap he jumps to 2nd from 17th position. Wth?

[pritch]

and at the last lap he jumps to 2nd from 17th position. Wth?

He put soft tyres on but it's doubted that he can use them in the race. That and he's never been short of bravery?

[Autech]

He put soft tyres on but it's doubted that he can use them in the race. That and he's never been short of bravery?

He is mad joe after all... Lol.

New predictions:
MV
DP
MM
AD
JL
VR
CC

Wish I had waited a bit to do my tab shit lol


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[pritch]

Don't sweat it. The conditions were described as "very very" slippery so may or may not be irrelevant to the race.

Dorna were still discussing what to do in the event of wet weather. They can race if every single rider agrees, or postpone the race a day as they did previously. Of course such a postponement causes havoc with airline bookings.

Interestingly many riders apparently continue to refer to morning and afternoon practice sessions at Qatar, despite both actually being in the evening.

[Kornholio]

I just threw 5 bucks on Crutchlow.. hope he not too banged up haha

[pritch]

We like to criticise Harris et al but the commentators received praise for the job they did this morning. I've got a coffee and am ready to watch for a while, perhaps even to admire Nick Harri's professionalism. Perhaps.

[Autech]

We like to criticise Harris et al but the commentators received praise for the job they did this morning. I've got a coffee and am ready to watch for a while, perhaps even to admire Nick Harri's professionalism. Perhaps.

So the git is back again? Every year I hope...


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[Mental Trousers]

The weather is still pissing about. Qualifying cancelled due to weather so the grid is combined times from practices.

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2017/03/25/qp-cancelled-vinales-on-pole-with-grid-formed-from-practice/221961


Pos No. Rider Bike Time Diff Prev
1 25 Maverick Viñales Yamaha 1'54.316
2 29 Andrea Iannone Suzuki 1'54.848 0.532 0.532
3 93 Marc Marquez Honda 1'54.912 0.596 0.064
4 5 Johann Zarco Yamaha 1'55.008 0.692 0.096
5 4 Andrea Dovizioso Ducati 1'55.042 0.726 0.034
6 45 Scott Redding Ducati 1'55.085 0.769 0.043
7 26 Dani Pedrosa Honda 1'55.113 0.797 0.028
8 94 Jonas Folger Yamaha 1'55.713 0.892 0.095
9 35 Cal Crutchlow Honda 1'55.211 0.895 0.003
10 46 Valentino Rossi Yamaha 1'55.414 1.098 0.203
11 9 Danilo Petrucci Ducati 1'55.435 1.119 0.021
12 99 Jorge Lorenzo Ducati 1'55.461 1.145 0.026
13 19 Alvaro Bautista Ducati 1'55.581 1.265 0.120
14 76 Loris Baz Ducati 1'55.624 1.308 0.043
15 41 Aleix Espargaro Aprilia 1'55.634 1.318 0.010
16 43 Jack Miller Honda 1'55.959 1.643 0.325
17 17 Karel Abraham Ducati 1'56.003 1.687 0.044
18 42 Alex Rins Suzuki 1'56.179 1.863 0.176
19 53 Tito Rabat Honda 1'56.368 2.052 0.189
20 8 Hector Barbera Ducati 1'56.725 2.409 0.357
21 22 Sam Lowes Aprilia 1'56.854 2.538 0.129
22 44 Pol Espargaro KTM 1'57.116 2.800 0.262
23 38 Bradley Smith KTM 1'57.654 3.338 0.538

[EJK]

The weather is still pissing about. Qualifying cancelled due to weather so the grid is combined times from practices.

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2017/03/25/qp-cancelled-vinales-on-pole-with-grid-formed-from-practice/221961

What's the bet on Iannone ramming into Vinales at turn 1? :bleh:

[Mental Trousers]

What's the bet on Iannone ramming into Vinales at turn 1? :bleh:

Probably about $1.50 and dropping.

[Kornholio]

The weather is still pissing about. Qualifying cancelled due to weather so the grid is combined times from practices.



No wonder I couldn't find the Qualifying sessions at motogp.com :bash:

[puddytat]

Weather mightn't be to bad.......
https://weather.com/en-GB/weather/hourbyhour/l/Losail+International+Circuit+US+Qatar+21180:25:QA

[Moise]

Weather mightn't be to bad.......
https://weather.com/en-GB/weather/hourbyhour/l/Losail+International+Circuit+US+Qatar+21180:25:QA
Or it might do the same as Saturday.

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[Autech]

So who else got up nice n early and watched?

[mulletman]

:whistle::whistle:

[roogazza]

So who else got up nice n early and watched?

Got up at 7.00am for the 3/4 hour delay !

No real big surprises once things got under way.:rolleyes:

[EJK]

So who else got up nice n early and watched?

Ahoy! Could've had 30 min more snooze but was worth the wait :2thumbsup

Hats off to Zarco and Iannone. They were in great form!

[mulletman]

Ahoy! Could've had 30 min more snooze but was worth the wait :2thumbsup

Hats off to Zarco and Iannone. They were in great form!

Would've made a great battle in last few laps

[Autech]

Rookies.

I was up at 4, watched the usual moto3 goodness, attempted to watch the moto2 until it started resembling a F1 race so snoozed on the couch till they crossed the line. Got ready for work then sat down to watch the delayed Motogp race which was feking brilliant.




SPOILER ALERT

Top rides I would say go to Dovi, Aleix Espagaro and Rins. I stand by my judgement that Suzuki axed Espagaro for a worse rider, Aprilia must be rubbing their hands together in glee, bike looks good I noticed he had lots of edge grip over Dani and held it's own on the straight, not bad! Rins is a worthy trade for Maverick though, oodles of talent.

2 crashes for Crash lots... Hmmm lets hope it is not a sign of the times, especially with Miller finishing so well.
As for Maverick and Rossi, top notch, that Yamaha is looking bloody good everywhere, Honda need to dig deep fast if they want to compete this year.

It will be interesting to see if it was JL that collected Rossi on lap 1 and that is why he ran wide, not a great start but I highly doubt he's up to beating Dovi just yet anyways.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Honda need to dig deep fast if they want to compete this year.

.

Bit early to be saying that Old Bean. MM has a smart head on him now. Just bring it home lad. Plenty of tracks to come where he'll smoke it.

[ecko_nzed]

It will be interesting to see if it was JL that collected Rossi on lap 1 and that is why he ran wide

Looked like Crutchlow ploughing into him to me.

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[roogazza]

Bit early to be saying that Old Bean. MM has a smart head on him now. Just bring it home lad. Plenty of tracks to come where he'll smoke it.

Yes , I kept away from all the opinions and Qualifying . Thought the Yams would be ok which proved to be. The Ducs are strong at this race usually, although Horhay messed up early.(thought the conditions might mess with him ?).(and they're so fast down the shute! :eek5:).
Not surprised Rossi in the mix come race day.
Watch MM next rounds I think.

[Autech]

Asparagus is very happy with his new bike I think.

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/243110/1/espargaro-this-is-just-the-beginning.html

The more the merrier I say!

[Moise]

Bit early to be saying that Old Bean. MM has a smart head on him now. Just bring it home lad. Plenty of tracks to come where he'll smoke it.
His main problem was changing the front to a medium on the grid. He should know by now that he can't use that tyre unless snow is falling!

Rider of the day for me was Dovi. He was very close to winning.

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[Crasherfromwayback]

His main problem was changing the front to a medium. He should know by now that he can't use that tyre unless snow is falling!

Rider of the day for me was Dovi. He was very close to winning.



Yep. Reckon he may win a couple this season.

[pritch]

Well that was a serious fuck up. With about seven laps to go the screen goes black with an "End of the recorded programme" message. Caused by the delay of course.
Bugga! Another one of those and I'll have shell out for the MotoGP coverage.

[Autech]

Well that was a serious fuck up. With about seven laps to go the screen goes black with an "End of the recorded programme" message. Caused by the delay of course.
Bugga! Another one of those and I'll have shell out for the MotoGP coverage.

Sky seriously need to fuck off...


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[pritch]

I don't know if that was SKY or my box. Came across a site on the web and watched the last laps with excited Spanish commentary.

It was picked before hand that Ducati could do well at Qatar because the track minimises the shortcomings of the bike. The warning was not to consider the performance there to be "normal". We'll see.

[Autech]

I don't know if that was SKY or my box. Came across a site on the web and watched the last laps with excited Spanish commentary.

It was picked before hand that Ducati could do well at Qatar because the track minimises the shortcomings of the bike. The warning was not to consider the performance there to be "normal". We'll see.

I cheered when I heard Voda weren't allowed to buy them out, that was the lifeline I hoped they wouldn't get so that the market might free up a bit.

Considering Dovi finished in exactly the same spot as he had the previous 2 years I'd say they're looking about the same (in relation to the other manufacturers). Either way it was a sweet ride by Dovi on soft tyres.

[Drew]

Sky seriously need to fuck off...


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Wasn't Sky, this chap must have run out of memory.

Mine recorded fine.

[pritch]

Wasn't Sky, this chap must have run out of memory.

Mine recorded fine.

You had me worried there. I've just checked there was still 20% free. Of course there is about to be more...

[Moise]

Wasn't Sky, this chap must have run out of memory.

Mine recorded fine.

Depends where you live. Mine stopped half way through Moto3 because of rain fade, but didn't start recording afterwards. WTF Sky?


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[speights_bud]

Well that was a serious fuck up. With about seven laps to go the screen goes black with an "End of the recorded programme" message. Caused by the delay of course.
Bugga! Another one of those and I'll have shell out for the MotoGP coverage.


Depends where you live. Mine stopped half way through Moto3 because of rain fade, but didn't start recording afterwards. WTF Sky?


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I don't know if that was SKY or my box. Came across a site on the web and watched the last laps with excited Spanish commentary.

It was picked before hand that Ducati could do well at Qatar because the track minimises the shortcomings of the bike. The warning was not to consider the performance there to be "normal". We'll see.



Please refer to post #1 of this thread. As quoted below:



2017 season starting soon,

KTM entering MotoGP, Lorenzo to Ducati and Vinales to Yamaha. Should be another cracker season.

Provisional 2017 Entry list:
http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2016/11/09/2017-motogp-provisional-entry-list/215493



Also, by participating in this thread you swear not to bitch about your shitty Sky coverage :motu:

:devil2::violin::nya:

[pritch]

It wasn't that the coverage was shitty. It's that the coverage stopped.:devil2:

[puddytat]

Vodafone as much as it has fucked me about no end, have finally after years of shitty internetness updated our local tower so I now in the middle of nowhere, have brilliant HD Motogpness . No jerky shit & the Missus can do her thing on her computer at the same time.
So good onya you multinational muthafuckers & I even went so far as to ring their service center & after waiting for ever for someone to answer my call , the woman on the end of the line was surprised somewhat, that she wasn't being ranted at but thanked.

And......Im going to go to P.I :msn-wink:

Life is good & the racing is awesome.:niceone:

[BMWST?]

its one thing to have a good test and a good bike,quite another to find your self 5th or 6th and well behind,and not making much inroads to the frontrunners.Even after MV had made it o the front he didnt have it all his own way.His passes were very neat and in the end he showed his real talent.I would say we have seen the first of very many appearances in that position

[Doppleganger]

Just watched the race, recording was interrupted with 6 laps to go came back on with 3 to go phew :-)

[roogazza]

No problems with Sky coverage.
I didn't allow for the delayed start so the copying stopped on me,but I had got up to watch the big race anyway.
Crutchless could've been top 5 so he bleated ?? :yawn:
Little Zarco did great for a while. (I had predicted Tech 3 would have a better year).

ps don't forget WSB this weekend Aragon.

[Autech]

No problems with Sky coverage.
I didn't allow for the delayed start so the copying stopped on me,but I had got up to watch the big race anyway.
Crutchless could've been top 5 so he bleated ?? :yawn:
Little Zarco did great for a while. (I had predicted Tech 3 would have a better year).

ps don't forget WSB this weekend Aragon.

CC is moaning about how he didn't get a choice about swapping the tyre... Hem hem... BACK YOUR TEAM!
So both DP and MM were running the tyre, they both struggled, realised they were in the shit and chose to ride around it rather than binning it = Aliens.
He's been in the Motogp a long time now and seems to have learned the least from it despite riding almost every bike on the grid at some point.

Anyways first rant over, beginning the next one

CRUCIAL, VERY VERY. CRUCIAL CRUCIAL, A LITTLE BIT WIDE...
FFS does Harris and his off sider get paid extra for repeating the same words over and over again? Might just buy that Motogp pass to mute the fuckers.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Zarco and Folger on the podium this season, they're showing some bloody good pace and aren't scared to dice it. Shame Zarco crashed but I do think the old heads would have prevailed, can't push a tyre that hard the early and expect it to survive the whole race.

[Moise]

Even funnier than usual:

Dear George,
I really should send you the Email I just got from Matthias in Germany.

But you don't know any German swear-words, so it would be pointless. And I cannot risk being hit by all the broken shisha pipes and busted chairs I see being hurled out of the smashed window of your motorhome.

Eleventh, George? Seriously? Eleventh? It wasn't raining.

I know you said it was. Franco and Loris even drove out and looked in case it was actually raining on the corners where you said it was, but they couldn't see any rain.

And no, I do not think finishing in 11th after starting in 12th is a "great improvement" and that you need a trophy for "Bravest, Best and Fairest". And no, we're not making up a sash for you to wear that says "Here is the Butter, putas!"

Jonas Fucking Folger beat you. Alex Rins beat you. Sure, it was their first ever race on a MotoGP bike, so it's maybe like you say "Beginner's Luck".

But Scott Redding and Jack Miller also beat you. And you don't even know who they are, even though you've been racing them for a while.

Jesus fucken Christ, George. Even Asparagus A managed to haul his shitty Aprilia into sixth, which you would not have seen because you were in 11th.

I'm thinking you'll be racing with those boys a lot this year. Which is why Matthias is so upset. He could have bought all of them, and Zarco, and given them all Ducatis and harems full of prostitutes for what he's paying you to come 11th.

Now keep the noise down. We have to go and have a few wines with Dovi. He came second. He is so happy and really quite pretty in his bridesmaid's dress. He even led the race for a while.

But that "Spanish traitor-puta" as you call him, won.

No, you don't want to know who came third. Trust me.

We're going to Argentina next, George. Yes, it does suck to be you at the moment.

Always hopeful,
Gigi.

[pritch]

I loved that when I saw it. I hope George doesn't read it.

[george formby]

I wouldn't be surprised to see Zarco and Folger on the podium this season, they're showing some bloody good pace and aren't scared to dice it. Shame Zarco crashed but I do think the old heads would have prevailed, can't push a tyre that hard the early and expect it to survive the whole race.

Watching Zarco was a little eerie. A lot to learn, obviously, he's in the big boys sand pit now but I couldn't help thinking about how well he managed tire wear in moto 2. That was a corner before he binned, sorry Johann.. The other thing that caught my eye was how smooth he was once he had a wee cushion, hitting that coin every time. I totally agree with the podium chances.

A very entertaining race for Quatar, my least favourite.

And no wonder #46 was happy. He must have been praying to all the Gods he could think of at the start of the race.

I predict many beers will be spilled this season and moto 3 may cause a heart attack for some fan. The rider position column on the left of the screen had wisps of smoke coming off it at times.

Bring on the MM / MV battle. :shit:

[pritch]

With JL seemingly outa the frame for a bit while he adjusts, both Zarco and JFF are outside chances of a podium.

And like PecinoGP says, don't forget Pedro.

There seem to be more potential podium placers this year. Hard to say why it seems that way after all the different winners last year?

[Moise]

It should be some season. So Suzuki only made minor changes. Yeah, right. I think Mav would have won just as easily if he'd stayed.

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[george formby]

Hard to say why it seems that way after all the different winners last year?

The bikes are getting closer, bit by bit. A comment on Sunday mentioned how much time Ducati have had with the current engine management software, everybody else is wiser, too. It may be homogenising the bikes but it's giving a lot of riders a lot of confidence. IMvery humbleO.

Speaking of which, electronics. How many manufacturers have had big mechanical breakthroughs in recent years? Wings and frippery don't count. Are the electronics being developed more than the bikes, they seem to get more press. Just a thought.

[Crasherfromwayback]

We're going to Argentina next, George. Yes, it does suck to be you at the moment.

Always hopeful,
Gigi.

What I find funniest of all about these posts...is that Whore Gay is a multiple times world champion with more millions than he'll ever know what to do with.

Doubt very much it'll ever suck to be him.

:msn-wink:

[Moise]

The bikes are getting closer, bit by bit. A comment on Sunday mentioned how much time Ducati have had with the current engine management software, everybody else is wiser, too. It may be homogenising the bikes but it's giving a lot of riders a lot of confidence. IMvery humbleO.

Speaking of which, electronics. How many manufacturers have had big mechanical breakthroughs in recent years? Wings and frippery don't count. Are the electronics being developed more than the bikes, they seem to get more press. Just a thought.
There's no electronics development going on now. Everyone has the same Magneti Marelli ECU that Ducati used to run, and all they can do is figure out the best way to program it.

It's nothing like what Honda and Yamaha used until 2015. In fact, the electronics on the latest litre sportsbikes is probably more sophisticated.

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[Drew]

. In fact, the electronics on the latest litre sportsbikes is probably more sophisticated.

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I don't think that's the case.

[roogazza]

There seem to be more potential podium placers this year. Hard to say why it seems that way after all the different winners last year?

Maybe pritch ? Last year we had all that fucked up weather and the tyre problems that brought on.

This year we have a few new young guns using good bikes , hopefully new winners for that reason ?

Qatar is not one of my favourite tracks but they throw heaps of money at it and its on the calendar for that reason.
It'll be interesting how the season unfolds at other tracks. :confused:

[sugilite]

Yeah, I know I'm late to the party! What a race though!
I really thought Folger was going to do it, what a shit luck crash - very promising though!
AI - more front end crashes to come me thinks.
Maverick and Rossi went awesome, hoping Rossi keeps making progress and can keep the upstart in sight!
Wow, that Honda looks ordinary in a straight line, must be hard for the Honda execs to watch the likes of Suzuki and even Aprilia giving them what for!
OK Loranzo, no secret around here I'm no fan of his. however, he is off to the exact start I was expecting. Yes, when his confidence is up, and the bike is running perfect as per the Yamaha most always was - he is devastating, one of the very best. But as soon as the chips are down, so is his dick. He got beat by some class rookies and his team mate nearly won. He is a 3 time World champ, so no excuses chump. :ar15:

[merv]

Yeah, I know I'm late to the party! What a race though!

Wow, that Honda looks ordinary in a straight line, must be hard for the Honda execs to watch the likes of Suzuki and even Aprilia giving them what for!
:ar15:

Yeah, I don't get this, it is not that many years ago the Honda was the fastest point and squirt bike out there and would drag anything off out of a corner and then only lose a bit at the top end compared to the Ducatis. So can HRC really not get its head around these simpler electronics or did they really do something daft to the engine? Now they say they have tried reverse spin and also big bang and it is still getting beaten so what's up?

[Dreama]

I don't think that's the case.

You're right Drew, it's not.
A good friend of mine is on the KTM team, from early development to now and he was previously with Honda for over 20yrs.
I was chatting to him in January about the meaning of life and MotoGP, or, more specifically, KTM's path in that insane world.
The KTM failed in that debut race last year because of sensors so we got onto the ECU discussion.
One thing is clear ... they are nothing like anything us mere mortals can get.

[Autech]

Yeah, I don't get this, it is not that many years ago the Honda was the fastest point and squirt bike out there and would drag anything off out of a corner and then only lose a bit at the top end compared to the Ducatis. So can HRC really not get its head around these simpler electronics or did they really do something daft to the engine? Now they say they have tried reverse spin and also big bang and it is still getting beaten so what's up?

I think it's a compound effect, they were already having issues prior to the software/tyre changes but had a couple of good riders able to work around it plus some of the best electrics on the grid.
Now with the engine still aggressive and the fact they have had to go back to square 1 with their '17 engine they are struggling again.
I'm not too concerned though as they managed to make it work ok by mid season last year, so the learning process should be shorter with the new engine. Jack Miller had one of his best dry race results so that means the bike isn't too bad I think, the problem is perfection is a moving target with the other teams improving all the time.

[Cosmik de Bris]

I don't think that's the case.

I think Moise is right, there was an article in Asphalt and Rubber about this very thing and the Traction control and Launch control in the Aprilia RSV4 and Tuono were a lot better than what the MotoGP boys had. The other manufacturers have caught up with Aprilia now so most road bikes have better electronics. Whether the road bike ECUs are as flexible is a different matter. The MotoGP ECUs probably have more tables and parameters you can fiddle with and I guess better is pretty subjective.

[Drew]

I think Moise is right, there was an article in Asphalt and Rubber about this very thing and the Traction control and Launch control in the Aprilia RSV4 and Tuono were a lot better than what the MotoGP boys had. The other manufacturers have caught up with Aprilia now so most road bikes have better electronics. Whether the road bike ECUs are as flexible is a different matter. The MotoGP ECUs probably have more tables and parameters you can fiddle with and I guess better is pretty subjective.
I've got a tiny little bit of experience setting up what is the best off the shelf traction control kit on the market. What it can be set up to do is flat out too technical for the lay person to set up. It needs to know exact wheel rolling radius, gearing, and lean angle. That's the level the GP bikes have.

What your RSV4 has from the factory is real basic.

[Autech]

I've got a tiny little bit of experience setting up what is the best off the shelf traction control kit on the market. What it can be set up to do is flat out too technical for the lay person to set up. It needs to know exact wheel rolling radius, gearing, and lean angle. That's the level the GP bikes have.

What your RSV4 has from the factory is real basic.

Does the factory road bike stuff have any learning capabilities? IE it picks up on how a rider operates the bike and adjusts the level to suit? That wouldn't be out of the question with modern technology I guess.

I'd imagine the MotoGP would be 100% dumb and require a lot of engineer time to map out the perfect TC configuration.

I had a gander at a GT3 steering wheel when I was at Bathurst in Feb and all they had was basically a knob to turn increase or decrease the ABS and TC.
I guess in a race car the TC much less sophisticated as with 4 wheels all being rammed into the ground the variables are less. Still tricky stuff no doubt but the fact that the MotoGP engineers have to dial in the perfect amount of wheelspin to turn the bike and factor in tyre drop, anti wheelie, lean angle for different corners, grip levels etc it wouldn't be easy. Hats off to the clever cunts

[EJK]

Hehe helmet but shorts and tee shirts. Typical gixxer riders :bleh:
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They should learn a thing or two about pit crew helmets from F1 Petronas Mercedes team.

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[Crasherfromwayback]

Hehe helmet but shorts and tee shirts. Typical gixxer riders :bleh:

That one won't stop too well.

[Drew]

Does the factory road bike stuff have any learning capabilities? IE it picks up on how a rider operates the bike and adjusts the level to suit? That wouldn't be out of the question with modern technology I guess.

I'd imagine the MotoGP would be 100% dumb and require a lot of engineer time to map out the perfect TC configuration.

I had a gander at a GT3 steering wheel when I was at Bathurst in Feb and all they had was basically a knob to turn increase or decrease the ABS and TC.
I guess in a race car the TC much less sophisticated as with 4 wheels all being rammed into the ground the variables are less. Still tricky stuff no doubt but the fact that the MotoGP engineers have to dial in the perfect amount of wheelspin to turn the bike and factor in tyre drop, anti wheelie, lean angle for different corners, grip levels etc it wouldn't be easy. Hats off to the clever cunts
Once the bike is unplugged from the laptop, it's completely dumb on the one Chop had. You can increase or decrease how much slide it has with a dial, that's it.

On the lappy though, you can create a 'curve' you like for lean/throttle percentages. It's fucking serious shit.

I was testing the bikes for him. He says before I go out to test the Micheal Dunlop bike. "You need to make sure the TC works. So ya need it to cut in when you're leaned over, then 'pin it'"!

The Dunlop bike had Bazzaz TC which had no wheel sensors. I struggled to get that working. Chops bike had this other system. Fucking magic!

[EJK]

Because lol

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[Dreama]

Once the bike is unplugged from the laptop, it's completely dumb on the one Chop had. You can increase or decrease how much slide it has with a dial, that's it.

On the lappy though, you can create a 'curve' you like for lean/throttle percentages. It's fucking serious shit.

I was testing the bikes for him. He says before I go out to test the Micheal Dunlop bike. "You need to make sure the TC works. So ya need it to cut in when you're leaned over, then 'pin it'"!

The Dunlop bike had Bazzaz TC which had no wheel sensors. I struggled to get that working. Chops bike had this other system. Fucking magic!

OK, I'm about to do a u turn and say that Moise was spot on with his comments on the ECU and I was wrong.
Believe it or not, my friend Mark Barnett ( who some may remember from here in 1980s era) just strolled into my workshop office as I was reading Drews last post.
Mark is on Pol Espargos KTM team and is home from Dubai for a few days before heading off to Argentina on Sunday.
I asked him about the ECU's and the fact that some guys are saying that some of the latest liter bikes have more advanced ECU's than MotoGP bikes.
His answer was that in many respects that was correct. The Magneti Marelli ECU's are far less advanced than the Honda units they were using ( when he was with Honda pre 2015 ) and when Honda received them back then they were shocked at how primitive they were.
Yamaha, Honda etc are not impressed with the fact that their road bikes have a better ECU than their GP bike and that they are essentially developing someone else's product. The teams are all struggling with the ECU's.
They are supposed to be partially locked units but of course the nerds in those teams can easily get into them.

So whilst Chops bike has a magic ECU unit it seems the GP bikes definitely don't. And FWIW, the Moto 2 bikes have a totally locked ECU.

He also spoke about Maverik Vinales. He's highly regarded in the paddock because he's able to give very astute feedback, can set up his bike well and delivers. It's no fluke he's at the pointy end.
On KTM, they're just rapt they finished. They've actually made amazing progress, 13 months ago all they had was a concept on paper. The challenges ahead are huge and one will be keeping Pol happy. He's a bubbly, enthusiastic and competitive kid (of course) and finishing 30 seconds behind the leaders won't keep him satisfied for long.

[Drew]

Well there ya go. I would have sworn the GP bikes had a similar TC program to what is available off the shelf.

I always thought that box on the tail in front of the camera was the gyro for it too.

Learn something every day. My bad.

[pritch]

Because lol

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Well, to be accurate it was Zarco or Folger who was actually riding his old bike. Not that a fact like that will cheer him up much anyway?

[pritch]

OK, I'm about to do a u turn and say that Moise was spot on with his comments on the ECU and I was wrong.
Believe it or not, my friend Mark Barnett ( who some may remember from here in 1980s era) just strolled into my workshop office as I was reading Drews last post.
Mark is on Pol Espargos KTM team and is home from Dubai for a few days before heading off to Argentina on Sunday.
I asked him about the ECU's and the fact that some guys are saying that some of the latest liter bikes have more advanced ECU's than MotoGP bikes.
His answer was that in many respects that was correct. The Magneti Marelli ECU's are far less advanced than the Honda units they were using ( when he was with Honda pre 2015 ) and when Honda received them back then they were shocked at how primitive they were.
Yamaha, Honda etc are not impressed with the fact that their road bikes have a better ECU than their GP bike and that they are essentially developing someone else's product. The teams are all struggling with the ECU's.
They are supposed to be partially locked units but of course the nerds in those teams can easily get into them.

So whilst Chops bike has a magic ECU unit it seems the GP bikes definitely don't. And FWIW, the Moto 2 bikes have a totally locked ECU.

He also spoke about Maverik Vinales. He's highly regarded in the paddock because he's able to give very astute feedback, can set up his bike well and delivers. It's no fluke he's at the pointy end.
On KTM, they're just rapt they finished. They've actually made amazing progress, 13 months ago all they had was a concept on paper. The challenges ahead are huge and one will be keeping Pol happy. He's a bubbly, enthusiastic and competitive kid (of course) and finishing 30 seconds behind the leaders won't keep him satisfied for long.

Thanks for that. It would seem KTM have picked the right riders because Smith too has a reputation for being very methodical and giving good feedback.

[Autech]

OK, I'm about to do a u turn and say that Moise was spot on with his comments on the ECU and I was wrong.
Believe it or not, my friend Mark Barnett ( who some may remember from here in 1980s era) just strolled into my workshop office as I was reading Drews last post.
Mark is on Pol Espargos KTM team and is home from Dubai for a few days before heading off to Argentina on Sunday.
I asked him about the ECU's and the fact that some guys are saying that some of the latest liter bikes have more advanced ECU's than MotoGP bikes.
His answer was that in many respects that was correct. The Magneti Marelli ECU's are far less advanced than the Honda units they were using ( when he was with Honda pre 2015 ) and when Honda received them back then they were shocked at how primitive they were.
Yamaha, Honda etc are not impressed with the fact that their road bikes have a better ECU than their GP bike and that they are essentially developing someone else's product. The teams are all struggling with the ECU's.
They are supposed to be partially locked units but of course the nerds in those teams can easily get into them.

So whilst Chops bike has a magic ECU unit it seems the GP bikes definitely don't. And FWIW, the Moto 2 bikes have a totally locked ECU.

He also spoke about Maverik Vinales. He's highly regarded in the paddock because he's able to give very astute feedback, can set up his bike well and delivers. It's no fluke he's at the pointy end.
On KTM, they're just rapt they finished. They've actually made amazing progress, 13 months ago all they had was a concept on paper. The challenges ahead are huge and one will be keeping Pol happy. He's a bubbly, enthusiastic and competitive kid (of course) and finishing 30 seconds behind the leaders won't keep him satisfied for long.

Legend!

Lets face it if you were asked which country you would go to get wizz bang electronics it would not be Italy...

It's made the racing fucking good though so bring it on and go KTM, their moto2 effort was good so lets see the GP step it up, I checked their lap analysis today and it wasn't too bad the kept a steady pace throughout the race, just wasn't fast enough. They'll be beating tito in no time.


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[Dreama]

Thanks for that. It would seem KTM have picked the right riders because Smith too has a reputation for being very methodical and giving good feedback.

The direct comment I received about Smith was ' ... he has an engineering background so he provides us with lot's of feedback. A lot of it is wrong and it sends him/us down the wrong path'
Just saying what I was told by someone at the coal face.
There could be multiple interpretations to that but Mark's pretty astute.

Guys he worked with,
Doohan " Took him years to get the setup perfect for him and he had a memory like an elephant"
Hayden " Did hundreds of laps in testing and told us nothing. Couldn't set a bike up to save himself"
Pedrosa " His bike setup is very user friendly"
On HRC ... "they are very respectful of their world champions. If that rider wants square wheels for next year ...." (that was a reference to the post Nicky Hayden Honda I think)
On KTM ... "they're very German like in their thinking. Extreme attention to detail and they can easily lose track of the goal. That's why they employed us ( meaning him and the Kiwi crewhief, Paul Tred..something), to keep them grounded. They come up with all these fancy designs and we just say 'that won't fuckin work' ... "

[Mental Trousers]

Thanks for that. It would seem KTM have picked the right riders because Smith too has a reputation for being very methodical and giving good feedback.

The direct comment I received about Smith was ' ... he has an engineering background so he provides us with lot's of feedback. A lot of it is wrong and it sends him/us down the wrong path'
Just saying what I was told by someone at the coal face.
There could be multiple interpretations to that but Mark's pretty astute.

Now that's interesting. I always he Bradders was in intelligent, very articulate guy that could talk to the engineers. But it sounds like he overthinks things and that's making his feedback skewed so the set up goes in the wrong direction.

I can relate :argh:


Guys he worked with,
Doohan " Took him years to get the setup perfect for him and he had a memory like an elephant"
Hayden " Did hundreds of laps in testing and told us nothing. Couldn't set a bike up to save himself"
Pedrosa " His bike setup is very user friendly"
On HRC ... "they are very respectful of their world champions. If that rider wants square wheels for next year ...." (that was a reference to the post Nicky Hayden Honda I think)
On KTM ... "they're very German like in their thinking. Extreme attention to detail and they can easily lose track of the goal. That's why they employed us ( meaning him and the Kiwi crewhief, Paul Tred..something), to keep them grounded. They come up with all these fancy designs and we just say 'that won't fuckin work' ... "

Now that's cool. Thanks for that. Interesting though, when Pedrosa was driving development the bike wasn't very good. I'm not surprised about Hayden though. He's happiest going sideways to the left so that tells you something about how he'll want a bike.

[Cosmik de Bris]

I've got a tiny little bit of experience setting up what is the best off the shelf traction control kit on the market. What it can be set up to do is flat out too technical for the lay person to set up. It needs to know exact wheel rolling radius, gearing, and lean angle. That's the level the GP bikes have.

What your RSV4 has from the factory is real basic.

It also depends on what sensors are fitted. Are the GP bikes allowed any IMU they like? I think that they are regulated too. If they do not have enough axis they are limited on the amount of control they have. The RSV4 is far from basic, when introduced in 2015 it was pretty much the best you could get.

[Cosmik de Bris]

Well there ya go. I would have sworn the GP bikes had a similar TC program to what is available off the shelf.

I always thought that box on the tail in front of the camera was the gyro for it too.

Learn something every day. My bad.

read this: http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/motogp/2016-motogp-mid-season-review-spec-software/#more-116654

quote from this link :

"Things are a little different for Aprilia. The Noale factory already has world-class electronics, developed in part in World Superbikes. The switch to the unified software was a step back for Aprilia, also because their MotoGP effort is being run with such limited resources."

[Dreama]

Now that's cool. Thanks for that. Interesting though, when Pedrosa was driving development the bike wasn't very good. I'm not surprised about Hayden though. He's happiest going sideways to the left so that tells you something about how he'll want a bike.

I think the point about Dani's setup is that to get that tiny extra advantage the bike has to be a bit more than 'user friendly'. That possibly reflects Dani's results, sometimes there, mostly not. Just my interpretation.

[pritch]

I hope that Dorna follow the Argie news. The country's biggest union is calling for a general strike on the Thursday prior to the GP.

[pritch]

http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/motogp/motogps-penalty-point-system-longer/

[Autech]

https://motomatters.com/news/2017/03/31/qatar_to_be_moved_to_february_resurfaced.html

Did someone say the tracks too cool n lacks drainage?
No worries we'll resurface it, heat the whole fucking lot then eh?

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$


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[onearmedbandit]

https://motomatters.com/news/2017/03/31/qatar_to_be_moved_to_february_resurfaced.html

Did someone say the tracks too cool n lacks drainage?
No worries we'll resurface it, heat the whole fucking lot then eh?

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$


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Checked the date of that article...?

[Autech]

Checked the date of that article...?

Cunt lol


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[Dave-]

Checked the date of that article...?

A heated track would be so freaking cool warm though.

[pritch]

Mr Emmett did it well. He mentioned shifting the date of the race, resurfacing of the track, and installing heating while it was being surfaced.

The heating part was his April Fool effort, but apparently both the other things are under consideration.

[AllanB]

Watched the highlights of round one yesterday. It was good. Go Rossi.

Is it me or has he got thinner? Looks older. Must be his last year.

[BMWST?]

Watched the highlights of round one yesterday. It was good. Go Rossi.

Is it me or has he got thinner? Looks older. Must be his last year.
there are some rumours that he has been/is ill.Will try to find where I saw that

[pritch]

http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/opinion/motogp/why-rossi-must-reinvent-himself-once-again

[mulletman]

MV handlebar shake at 22min 47s set off his airbag :shit:..37min 40s DP onto the front straight slow mo shows a wicked front disc flex:crazy:..

[Crasherfromwayback]

DP onto the front straight slow mo shows a wicked front disc flex:crazy:..

Doubt very much you're seeing a CF disc rotor flex matey. More likely to be the heat shields they sometimes use to keep the heat in the rotor flexing.

[mulletman]

Doubt very much you're seeing a CF disc rotor flex matey. More likely to be the heat shields they sometimes use to keep the heat in the rotor flexing.

I did wonder that...I spose him being a lite weight needing to keep heat in them.
Anyway it's a good corner the camera is on watching how different bikes behave.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I did wonder that...I spose him being a lite weight needing to keep heat in them.
Anyway it's a good corner the camera is on watching how different bikes behave.

Fuck yeah. Gives you an idea on just how hard every single one of those sick fucks is going eh!

[BMWST?]

everything is backwards..Karal abraham is 3rd,rossi 16th Lorenzo 18th.also out of the top ten is Dovi and Pedrosa

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Rider
Nation
Team
Bike
Km/h
Time
Gap 1st/Prev.

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1
25
Maverick VIÑALES (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Maverick+Vi%C3%B1ales)
SPA
Movistar Yamaha MotoGP
Yamaha
321.0
1'39.477



2
93
Marc MARQUEZ (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Marc+Marquez)
SPA
Repsol Honda Team
Honda
318.2
1'39.778
0.301 / 0.301


3
17
Karel ABRAHAM (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Karel+Abraham)
CZE
Pull&Bear Aspar Team
Ducati
322.7
1'39.880
0.403 / 0.102


4
19
Alvaro BAUTISTA (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Alvaro+Bautista)
SPA
Pull&Bear Aspar Team
Ducati
327.7
1'39.922
0.445 / 0.042


5
9
Danilo PETRUCCI (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Danilo+Petrucci)
ITA
OCTO Pramac Racing
Ducati
321.5
1'39.960
0.483 / 0.038


6
76
Loris BAZ (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Loris+Baz)
FRA
Reale Avintia Racing
Ducati
322.1
1'40.120
0.643 / 0.160


7
35
Cal CRUTCHLOW (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Cal+Crutchlow)
GBR
LCR Honda
Honda
318.0
1'40.124
0.647 / 0.004


8
94
Jonas FOLGER (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Jonas+Folger)
GER
Monster Yamaha Tech 3
Yamaha
319.0
1'40.157
0.680 / 0.033


9
41
Aleix ESPARGARO (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Aleix+Espargaro)
SPA
Aprilia Racing Team Gresini
Aprilia
321.7
1'40.175
0.698 / 0.018


10
29
Andrea IANNONE (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Andrea+Iannone)
ITA
Team SUZUKI ECSTAR
Suzuki
318.4
1'40.250
0.773 / 0.075


11
45
Scott REDDING (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Scott+Redding)
GBR
OCTO Pramac Racing
Ducati
323.7
1'40.338
0.861 / 0.088


12
5
Johann ZARCO (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Johann+Zarco)
FRA
Monster Yamaha Tech 3
Yamaha
319.5
1'40.340
0.863 / 0.002


13
26
Dani PEDROSA (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Dani+Pedrosa)
SPA
Repsol Honda Team
Honda
319.6
1'40.345
0.868 / 0.005


14
4
Andrea DOVIZIOSO (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Andrea+Dovizioso)
ITA
Ducati Team
Ducati
329.3
1'40.399
0.922 / 0.054


15
8
Hector BARBERA (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Hector+Barbera)
SPA
Reale Avintia Racing
Ducati
326.4
1'40.431
0.954 / 0.032


16
46
Valentino ROSSI (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Valentino+Rossi)
ITA
Movistar Yamaha MotoGP
Yamaha
321.9
1'40.531
1.054 / 0.100


17
43
Jack MILLER (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Jack+Miller)
AUS
EG 0,0 Marc VDS
Honda
318.5
1'40.588
1.111 / 0.057


18
99
Jorge LORENZO (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Jorge+Lorenzo)
SPA
Ducati Team
Ducati
327.2
1'40.599
1.122 / 0.011


19
53
Tito RABAT (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Tito+Rabat)
SPA
EG 0,0 Marc VDS
Honda
319.9
1'40.908
1.431 / 0.309


20
42
Alex RINS (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Alex+Rins)
SPA
Team SUZUKI ECSTAR
Suzuki
317.8
1'41.083
1.606 / 0.175


21
44
Pol ESPARGARO (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Pol+Espargaro)
SPA
Red Bull KTM Factory Racing
KTM
318.5
1'41.632
2.155 / 0.549


22
38
Bradley SMITH (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Bradley+Smith)
GBR
Red Bull KTM Factory Racing
KTM
316.6
1'42.074
2.597 / 0.442


23
22
Sam LOWES (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Sam+Lowes)
GBR
Aprilia Racing Team Gresini
Aprilia
316.5
1'42.179
2.702 / 0.105

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Weather Conditions: | Track Condition: Dry| Air: 28º| Humidity: 66%| Ground: 42ºRecords:
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Fastest Lap:
Lap: 18
Maverick VIÑALES (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Maverick+Vi%C3%B1ales)
1'39.477
173.9 Km/h


Circuit Record Lap:
2015
Valentino ROSSI (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Valentino+Rossi)
1'39.019
174.7 Km/h


Best Lap:
2014
Marc MARQUEZ (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Marc+Marquez)
1'37.683
177.1 Km/h

</tbody>

[Crasherfromwayback]

everything is backwards..Karal abraham is 3rd,rossi 16th Lorenzo 18th.also out of the top ten is Dovi and Pedrosa
]

Been plenty of Abraham haters here over the years too. Just goes to show you how good every single one of them actually is.

[pritch]

They're hoping it doesn't rain tomorrow but the forecast is not good. If it does rain those with a good time in the bank can count on being Q2, some big names have work to do.
We all know what Rossi's problem is it has been well covered but why everything else is upside down I have yet to read.

Lots of those present posting pictures of the huge steaks they get in Argentina. None of the photos have anything like 'five plus' on the plate. Great for a change but several say they wouldn't like to be doing it too often.

[Dadpole]

1st to 15th within a second. It is not like there are huge gaps there so a 'normal' FP3 should have the usual suspects in the top 10.

[manxkiwi]

Yeah. Deff disc covers. Should be an interesting race (no shit Sherlock!). Would be great to see
Marqez/Vin knocking lumps out of each other in a fair and square battle.

[BMWST?]

1st to 15th within a second. It is not like there are huge gaps there so a 'normal' FP3 should have the usual suspects in the top 10.
therein lies the rub....if it rains?.Cant help but think that in the race the cream will rise to the top.Most of em were running softs tyres ,i think DP VR et all are still chasing a race setup

[pritch]

,i think DP VR et all are still chasing a race setup

Yeah that comment was made. Rossi is working to fix his corner transition problem so he's on race rubber. Apparently his lap times are not *that* bad for hard tyres.

I'll have to check that "Dear George" F/B page to see what George's problem is. :sherlock:

[BMWST?]

Yeah that comment was made. Rossi is working to fix his corner transition problem so he's on race rubber. Apparently his lap times are not *that* bad for hard tyres.

I'll have to check that "Dear George" F/B page to see what George's problem is. :sherlock:

ti thought michelin had brought a new harder construcutuon tyre for rossi and the hondas

[Dadpole]

I'll have to check that "Dear George" F/B page to see what George's problem is. :sherlock:

Already done that. Evidently the problem is "That puta Abraham"

[roogazza]

Already done that. Evidently the problem is "That puta Abraham"
Everyones'a 'puta' on Dear George huh Dadpole?

I have copied the Qual session,but think an early ride is on this morning (stunning out there now?)
I turn 68 tomorrow so I have promised myself a couple of wheelies (bunny hops) to celebrate.:confused::laugh::msn-wink::bleh:
This 'puta' is going to enjoy a cigar !!!

[Autech]

Everyones'a 'puta' on Dear George huh Dadpole?

I have copied the Qual session,but think an early ride is on this morning (stunning out there now?)
I turn 68 tomorrow so I have promised myself a couple of wheelies (bunny hops) to celebrate.:confused::laugh::msn-wink::bleh:
This 'puta' is going to enjoy a cigar !!!

Happy birthday mate! 68 is the new 67 I hear, I wanna see a Jack Miller style standing wheelie.

Bizarre qualifying results, was hoping the race would be wet to make it extra interesting, but it's shaping up that way already.


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[BMWST?]

Everyones'a 'puta' on Dear George huh Dadpole?

I have copied the Qual session,but think an early ride is on this morning (stunning out there now?)
I turn 68 tomorrow so I have promised myself a couple of wheelies (bunny hops) to celebrate.:confused::laugh::msn-wink::bleh:
This 'puta' is going to enjoy a cigar !!!
All the best for your birthday Gazza, have a good day!

[Crasherfromwayback]

What a fucking lesson.

Pos. Rider Team Bike Time
1 Marc Marquez Repsol Honda Team Honda RC213V 1:47.512
2 Karel Abraham Pull&Bear Aspar Team Ducati GP16 1:48.275
3 Cal Crutchlow LCR Honda Honda RC213V 1:48.278
4 Danilo Petrucci Octo Pramac Racing Ducati GP17 1:48.908
5 Dani Pedrosa Repsol Honda Team Honda RC213V 1:49.008
6 Maverick Vinales Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha YZR-M1 1:49.218
7 Valentino Rossi Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha YZR-M1 1:49.272
8 Aleix Espargaro Aprilia Racing Team Gresini Aprilia RS-GP 1:49.323
9 Loris Baz Reale Esponsorama Racing Ducati GP16 1:49.630
10 Alvaro Bautista Pull&Bear Aspar Team Ducati GP16 1:49.724
11 Jonas Folger Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha YZR-M1 1:49.825
12 Andrea Iannone Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki GSX-RR 1:50.725
13 Andrea Dovizioso Ducati Team Ducati GP17 1:49.488
14 Johann Zarco Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha YZR-M1 1:49.916
15 Scott Redding Octo Pramac Racing Ducati GP16 1:50.048
16 Jorge Lorenzo Ducati Team Ducati GP17 1:50.310
17 Jack Miller Team EG 0,0 Marc VDS Honda RC213V 1:50.319
18 Pol Espargaro Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM RC16 1:50.673
19 Bradley Smith Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM RC16 1:50.676
20 Tito Rabat Team EG 0,0 Marc VDS Honda RC213V 1:50.910
21 Hector Barbera Reale Esponsorama Racing Ducati GP16 1:51.058
22 Sam Lowes Aprilia Racing Team Gresini Aprilia RS-GP 1:51.199
23 Alex Rins Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki GSX-RR 1:52.340
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[Dadpole]

Have a good one there roogazza. 68 eh? How can a person be so old and not be in a museum somewhere? Speaking as a mere 61 year old, I salute your coffin-dodging skills. :clap:

[BMWST?]

Have a good one there roogazza. 68 eh? How can a person be so old and not be in a museum somewhere? Speaking as a mere 61 year old, I salute your coffin-dodging skills. :clap:
its not roogazza its pritch!:facepalm::facepalm:

[BMWST?]

What a fucking lesson.

Pos. Rider Team Bike Time
1 Marc Marquez Repsol Honda Team Honda RC213V 1:47.512
2 Karel Abraham Pull&Bear Aspar Team Ducati GP16 1:48.275
3 Cal Crutchlow LCR Honda Honda RC213V 1:48.278
4 Danilo Petrucci Octo Pramac Racing Ducati GP17 1:48.908
5 Dani Pedrosa Repsol Honda Team Honda RC213V 1:49.008
6 Maverick Vinales Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha YZR-M1 1:49.218
7 Valentino Rossi Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha YZR-M1 1:49.272
8 Aleix Espargaro Aprilia Racing Team Gresini Aprilia RS-GP 1:49.323
9 Loris Baz Reale Esponsorama Racing Ducati GP16 1:49.630
10 Alvaro Bautista Pull&Bear Aspar Team Ducati GP16 1:49.724
11 Jonas Folger Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha YZR-M1 1:49.825
12 Andrea Iannone Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki GSX-RR 1:50.725
13 Andrea Dovizioso Ducati Team Ducati GP17 1:49.488
14 Johann Zarco Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha YZR-M1 1:49.916
15 Scott Redding Octo Pramac Racing Ducati GP16 1:50.048
16 Jorge Lorenzo Ducati Team Ducati GP17 1:50.310
17 Jack Miller Team EG 0,0 Marc VDS Honda RC213V 1:50.319
18 Pol Espargaro Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM RC16 1:50.673
19 Bradley Smith Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM RC16 1:50.676
20 Tito Rabat Team EG 0,0 Marc VDS Honda RC213V 1:50.910
21 Hector Barbera Reale Esponsorama Racing Ducati GP16 1:51.058
22 Sam Lowes Aprilia Racing Team Gresini Aprilia RS-GP 1:51.199
23 Alex Rins Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki GSX-RR 1:52.340
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the older ducs must really be hooking up.I cant really think why else its so odd.I dont thinks its that slippery because there have been few crashes.A couple of on board shots of dovi shows some pretty big straightline stepouts as did MM wee practise start moment

[ecko_nzed]

I think Dovi would have been further up the time sheets but he came in early in Q1, thinking he was safe for Q2. Then Pedo and Rossi pulled one out of the bag at the very end.

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[Dadpole]

its not roogazza its pritch!:facepalm::facepalm:

One of us is going senile. :shit:

[BMWST?]

One of us is going senile. :shit:


and its not you:(

[Dadpole]

Phew. You had me worried there. Looks like what remains of my mind made it through another day. :niceone:

Meanwhile: Predictions for Argieland.

Marquez would be my pick for winner.
Vinales second
Rossi third

Abraham for 8th into turn 1 (A great effort to get on the front row though)

[BMWST?]

Phew. You had me worried there. Looks like what remains of my mind made it through another day. :niceone:

Meanwhile: Predictions for Argieland.

Marquez would be my pick for winner.
Vinales second
Rossi third

Abraham for 8th into turn 1 (A great effort to get on the front row though)

pritches avatarhttps://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/customavatars/avatar2118_43.gif is a similar pic to gazza sig pichttps://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/signaturepics/sigpic1594_35.gif.Thats all i gonna say!.

[merv]

pritches avatarhttps://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/customavatars/avatar2118_43.gif is a similar pic to gazza sig pichttps://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/signaturepics/sigpic1594_35.gif.Thats all i gonna say!.

So Gaz is really Rossi in disguise enjoying mixing it with us on KB and pritch is just the pretender, is that what you are saying?

[Dadpole]

Stop it. My head hurts.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Just glad I had coin on MM and MV...

[roogazza]

At the risk of being a SPOILER, Vale must be a happy camper ?
Woke this morning and they were on the grid, A quick Espresso and I was seated for it live.
Tech 3 in the results again. Zarco so impressive,Folger even in there.
:wari::wari::love:

[Autech]

HORY SHET!

Epic race in the Moto3, won't say result but looking like a few good riders dueling it out as usual, hoping it's not a runaway again this year.





SPOILER ALERT





As for the MotoGP... Hmmmm.... Not often you see that many factory riders sliding down the road in a single race.
Just a theory, but could we be looking at a repeat of 2014? The next race will decide, if he can beat Marquez at his home track...

[Crasherfromwayback]

At the risk of being a SPOILER, Vale must be a happy camper ?
Woke this morning and they were on the grid, A quick Espresso and I was seated for it live.
Tech 3 in the results again. Zarco so impressive,Folger even in there.
:wari::wari::love:

Happy birthday you Old Coot!

[merv]

Happy birthday you Old Coot!

Yes Happy Birthday Gaz, have a great day.

What's up with Marquez is he drinking the same coffee as Lydia Ko or something?

[roogazza]

Happy birthday you Old Coot!

Thanks bud,every day above ground huh ? :innocent:

[EJK]

I will stop hatin on Lorenzo.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Thanks bud,every day above ground huh ? :innocent:

I reckon! I've just had some reasonably major shoulder surgery. Looking forward to being able to get back on a bike! Finally...

[Autech]

I will stop hatin on Lorenzo.

It's not the first time he's had a shit start to a season and from memory he won one of the ones when he started weak, so "don't rule out Lorenzo". But yeah, his fault for qualifying amongst the riff raff. Easy mistake to make that in the first corner, of course it had to be Eeeaahhnonne at fault after he'd jumped the start.

I'm nominating Dovi as the most unlucky rider on the grid alongside Pedrosa. Poor cunt can't catch a break.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I'm nominating Dovi as the most unlucky rider on the grid alongside Pedrosa. Poor cunt can't catch a break.

True. But he'd got in well too hot himself.

[Mental Trousers]

What a fucking lesson.

Pos. Rider Team Bike Time
1 Marc Marquez Repsol Honda Team Honda RC213V 1:47.512
2 Karel Abraham Pull&Bear Aspar Team Ducati GP16 1:48.275
3 Cal Crutchlow LCR Honda Honda RC213V 1:48.278
4 Danilo Petrucci Octo Pramac Racing Ducati GP17 1:48.908
5 Dani Pedrosa Repsol Honda Team Honda RC213V 1:49.008
6 Maverick Vinales Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha YZR-M1 1:49.218
7 Valentino Rossi Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha YZR-M1 1:49.272
8 Aleix Espargaro Aprilia Racing Team Gresini Aprilia RS-GP 1:49.323
9 Loris Baz Reale Esponsorama Racing Ducati GP16 1:49.630
10 Alvaro Bautista Pull&Bear Aspar Team Ducati GP16 1:49.724
11 Jonas Folger Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha YZR-M1 1:49.825
12 Andrea Iannone Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki GSX-RR 1:50.725
13 Andrea Dovizioso Ducati Team Ducati GP17 1:49.488
14 Johann Zarco Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha YZR-M1 1:49.916
15 Scott Redding Octo Pramac Racing Ducati GP16 1:50.048
16 Jorge Lorenzo Ducati Team Ducati GP17 1:50.310
17 Jack Miller Team EG 0,0 Marc VDS Honda RC213V 1:50.319
18 Pol Espargaro Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM RC16 1:50.673
19 Bradley Smith Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM RC16 1:50.676
20 Tito Rabat Team EG 0,0 Marc VDS Honda RC213V 1:50.910
21 Hector Barbera Reale Esponsorama Racing Ducati GP16 1:51.058
22 Sam Lowes Aprilia Racing Team Gresini Aprilia RS-GP 1:51.199
23 Alex Rins Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki GSX-RR 1:52.340
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the older ducs must really be hooking up.I cant really think why else its so odd.I dont thinks its that slippery because there have been few crashes.A couple of on board shots of dovi shows some pretty big straightline stepouts as did MM wee practise start moment

Mechanical grip. The GP15 was always good at getting power down whereas all of the others needed more electronic assistance to get the power to the ground. It was both a strength and a weakness (they didn't want to turn because they were all about rear grip) of the Ducati's.

[pritch]

One of the riders (can't remember who) was saying, "All weekend it's Rossi is slow, Rossi has a problem, then in the race your pitboard says '+0 Rossi'."

And happy birthday Gaaza.

[Autech]

One of the riders (can't remember who) was saying, "All weekend it's Rossi is slow, Rossi has a problem, then in the race your pitboard says '+0 Rossi'."

And happy birthday Gaaza.

Probably CC he said Rossi had shown no pace all weekend then bam.

Wonder what the warning light was on CC's dash that slowed him down? Was it the: "Both Repsol riders who you have said are better than you have crashed so don't be a muppet light"? Either way top ride from him to stay up there.

That Honda looks fucking horrible to ride, Dani's was cutting so many shapes in and out of the corners it was a wonder he was even able to pass the Duc.

Was it just me or was there a bump exactly where the Repsol boys kissed tarmac?

[pritch]

Probably CC he said Rossi had shown no pace all weekend then bam.


Rossi still has the problem turning. He was suspecting the new softer carcase Michelin front. Some harder carcase tyres were flown in, but due to the general stike in Argentina on Thursday they arrived too late to be used. It's not just Rossi, several of the others didn't like the new tyre either. Bautista was one such but it didn't seem to bother him too much in the race.

Rossi is saying now though that he's thinking that it may be the bike rather than the tyre, because he had the same problem on wets.

[Dadpole]

Good on Bautista. I have always rated him as much better than the result book showed. I would still put money on him being top 10 for the year.

Otherwise - A good set of races. Moto2 was a procession but still a very watchable race.

[pritch]

With the last half of Moto2 as yet unwatched I'm still not finished viewing, but the highlight of the weekend for me was the massive fuck up MM made of his practice start. It's nice to know these aliens can be mortal. Of course he pulled off a miracle save, I'd have more likely face planted.

[eelracing]

Just a theory, but could we be looking at a repeat of 2014?...

Or even better 2015?...only this time Rossi riding shotgun for Vinales.
Paybacks are a bitch eh Marquez.

[ellipsis]

...the table has changed somewhat but the Illustrious VR
keeps playing for keeps...Vale,Viva...

[speights_bud]

There is a video on Facebook of our dear George screaming at his bike.... I'll see if it's on YouTube....

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[sugilite]

What a race!
Honda are having a shit time this year, though they own Cota, so they will prob come back huge for the next race. Though MM sure looked haunted. Maverick is a machine and you cannot be giving away points to him and MM knows it.
Lorenzo still finding it hard top get a foot hold on the Ducati slippery slope.
The Yamaha satellite boys are going freaking awesome!
And Miller - My once high hopes are fading fast. Looking like WSB for that boy unless he pulls finger.
Rossi showing his class race after race - fantastic!
Rossi - "I have a lot of work to do to get to Vinales level" - Class
Lorenzo - "I had top six potential" - Arse

[Doppleganger]

Fukin gold

Dear George,

You need to come out of the toilet.

Seriously. How long do you think you can stay in there?

Look, it's probably not true about Karel Abraham's dad bribing the President of Argentina to make it rain. But yes, it is true Karel is in second place on the grid on a Ducati that was made in 2015 from old Czech beer tins and chocolate.

And you're right. Karel can't ride for shit and his creepy beard is probably full of weevils.

It's also true Petrucci, whose Ducati is made out of paper and runs on kerosene, is starting in fourth.

I promise I will find out "who the fuck Loris Baz is" and why his Ducati is also faster than yours, but I think you remember who Alvaro Bautista is, even though none of us are sure why his Ducati is also faster than yours.

Actually, and it pains me to say this, yours is the slowest of all the Ducatis we have brought to Argentina. And this is after we put all the telemetry from all the other bikes into it. All of it, George, Swear to God. Just like you asked.

You are, if I'm not mistaken (and I'm not because that Lin Jarvis bastard has not stopped laughing for the last three hours), you're starting in 16th.

If you finish in that same position there will be no points. Not even any of those "special butter points" you think you should get because you are a Spartan.

And please don't death-stare the mechanics. It's not helping. They put on the seat you told them to put on.

Now stop texting the Argentine President and come out of the fucking toilet. I will give you a lolly.

Regards,

Gigi.

[Autech]

News is out: Dani Pedrosa confirmed my suspicions that there is a bump going into turn 2 and said the Honda is hard to set up for a bumpy track. CC also nearly crashed there a few times so he did well to stay on board. Dani thought he was good to catch the front group which wouldn't have surprised me, both he and Marquez said they felt good on the bikes before the crash so it's a promising sign for us Honda fan bois.

Dovi has said yes it was ESA's fault for the crash, but put the blame on Petrucci's shoulder for riding like a wanker (paraphrased). Basically said Petruc had rekt his tyres and was taking weird lines causing him to run wide and subsequently ESA to lose the front when it all went down in front of him. From memory Petrucci was running the hards front and rear so must have worked them bloody hard to stay ahead of Pedrosa.

Yanoonneee reckons race direction were big meanies for giving him a ride through considering he'd already been hit by George in turn 1 causing him to drop to last. I kind of see him point but they're not going to give him any slack going off his history.
George thought he could have run the top 6, wouldn't be surprised if that was the case (keeping in mind the factory bikes on the ground) but we'll never know. Can't really blame the dude for turn 1 as it gets fucking busy in there keeping an eye on all the riders.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Or even better 2015?...only this time Rossi riding shotgun for Vinales.
Paybacks are a bitch eh Marquez.

That's one of the funniest things I've ever seen. Some people simply can't handle or face the truth. :msn-wink:

[Dave-]

Fukin gold

Dear George,

You need to come out of the toilet.

Seriously. How long do you think you can stay in there?

Look, it's probably not true about Karel Abraham's dad bribing the President of Argentina to make it rain. But yes, it is true Karel is in second place on the grid on a Ducati that was made in 2015 from old Czech beer tins and chocolate.

And you're right. Karel can't ride for shit and his creepy beard is probably full of weevils.

It's also true Petrucci, whose Ducati is made out of paper and runs on kerosene, is starting in fourth.

I promise I will find out "who the fuck Loris Baz is" and why his Ducati is also faster than yours, but I think you remember who Alvaro Bautista is, even though none of us are sure why his Ducati is also faster than yours.

Actually, and it pains me to say this, yours is the slowest of all the Ducatis we have brought to Argentina. And this is after we put all the telemetry from all the other bikes into it. All of it, George, Swear to God. Just like you asked.

You are, if I'm not mistaken (and I'm not because that Lin Jarvis bastard has not stopped laughing for the last three hours), you're starting in 16th.

If you finish in that same position there will be no points. Not even any of those "special butter points" you think you should get because you are a Spartan.

And please don't death-stare the mechanics. It's not helping. They put on the seat you told them to put on.

Now stop texting the Argentine President and come out of the fucking toilet. I will give you a lolly.

Regards,

Gigi.

Does anybody else find these almost as cringy as Lorenzo's last publicity stunt? I really don't find them "fukin gold".

It would be funny if it wasn't literally the same joke every single time.

[Autech]

Does anybody else find these almost as cringy as Lorenzo's last publicity stunt? I really don't find them "fukin gold".

It would be funny if it wasn't literally the same joke every single time.

It's just some internet troll with 1/16th Lorenzos talent and 1/100th his money jealous that his life is 1000 times more awesome. I take no notice


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[pritch]

You can take some things too seriously. If you don't like it don't read it - simple. Whinging won't help.

[ellipsis]

You can take some things too seriously. If you don't like it don't read it - simple. Whinging won't help.

...if it wasn't so puerile it could be funny...definitely makes me chuckle, but not at JL, and I've kicked him and his attitude many times in the past... but kicking a lad when he's having a 'few', difficulties is not cricket...

...I'm not sure if what I just wrote was the absolute truth now that I read it...maybe it really is hilarious...:whistle:

[Grumph]

...if it wasn't so puerile it could be funny...definitely makes me chuckle, but not at JL, and I've kicked him and his attitude many times in the past... but kicking a lad when he's having a 'few', difficulties is not cricket...

...I'm not sure if what I just wrote was the absolute truth now that I read it...maybe it really is hilarious...:whistle:

Given that 99% of JL's problems are self-inflicted, I reckon it's funny.

Plenty laughed at Rossi when he couldn't get on with the Duc....JL must have gone in at least suspecting he'd have problems.
How he deals with them will tell how much class he has.

[pritch]

i think it may be Australian in which case JL may not have read it. I'd prefer to believe that. I guess if he sees it once he won't be back. It's funny if unsympathetic.
The word schadenfreude comes to mind.

[ellipsis]

Plenty laughed at Rossi when he couldn't get on with the Duc....



...and I'm sure I took it more personally than VR...but that's what his fans, followers and fanatics are all about...

[speights_bud]

The Facebook video was pulled down, but it lives on forever on youtube....



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esmTCs53RpI

I feel bad for the guy a little bit & I'm not even a fan. But when so many people are taking the piss.... My 3yo daughter now says "puta Rossi" and asks when someone crashes "is he doing Butter?"
I'm a bad parent...

[EJK]

The Facebook video was pulled down, but it lives on forever on youtube....

I feel bad for the guy a little bit & I'm not even a fan. But when so many people are taking the piss.... My 3yo daughter now says "puta Rossi" and asks when someone crashes "is he doing Butter?"
I'm a bad parent...

I feel for the guy. Test results ain't too good, fans aren't happy, Ducati is worried, the pressure is on. He just want's to improve and do better but at the 2nd corner... bam goes down. :no:

[steveyb]

I'm a bad parent...

Yes, yes you are!!! hahahahahahaha

[speights_bud]

I feel for the guy. Test results ain't too good, fans aren't happy, Ducati is worried, the pressure is on. He just want's to improve and do better but at the 2nd corner... bam goes down. :no:
Yep, you'd have to be a complete cunt to say Lorenzo deserves everything he gets. The dear George stuff has its merits, but I feel like the situation is worsening to almost being a "picking on the special kid situation". Poor cunt.

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[Crasherfromwayback]

Does anybody else find these almost as cringy as Lorenzo's last publicity stunt? I really don't find them "fukin gold".

It would be funny if it wasn't literally the same joke every single time.

Lame as all fuck. Just some bitter Rossi Fan Boi that's gutted Lorenzo beat him up on the Yamaha. Just like MV is doing now.

[eelracing]

Rossi

350 GP's later and running second with 2 championship rivals 35+points in the hole....and you still bleat like a pregnant sheep.

Marcymark will be back...the season starts now.

[pritch]

Lame as all fuck.

There I was thinking that your earthquake problems were over now, there's no shortage of Steinlager, and everything is hunky dory. Why so sad?

I sent the "Dear George" link to a woman I used to work with, she was pissing herself laughing, people were asking wassup? OK, she saw Rossi race at Brno when he was about fifteen and has followed him since he hit the big time so she is not completely unbiased. :innocent:

[Autech]

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/243560/1/training-mentality-switch-key-to-redding-push.html

Hilarious interview, be sure to read it all the way down.

[Kornholio]

Just glad I had coin on MM and MV...Ha sweet, I had mine on Rossi and Crutchlow.... sooo close :/ (I may or may not screamed at the tele a couple of times for Vinales to fall off)

[Crasherfromwayback]

...and you still bleat like a pregnant sheep.

.

I'm afraid you're the one doing the bleating mate...

[Crasherfromwayback]

There I was thinking that your earthquake problems were over now, there's no shortage of Steinlager, and everything is hunky dory. Why so sad?

:

I'm far from sad. Just had me shoulder surgery, so actually pretty happy 'bout life! I'm far from a huge Lorenzo fan, I simply find that sort of stuff lame.

[Autech]

Ha sweet, I had mine on Rossi and Crutchlow.... sooo close :/ (I may or may not screamed at the tele a couple of times for Vinales to fall off)

Yeah I was kind half and half on that, I'm loving seeing MV doing well but had great odds on CC for the win, only $1 though so wasn't a great loss.

[Crasherfromwayback]

, there's no shortage of Steinlager, and everything is hunky dory. t:

Bicep screwed back on humerus, supraspinatus screwed back onto scapula, rotator cuff repair done. What's not to be happy about.

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[roogazza]

[QUOTE=Crasherfromwayback;1131040505]Bicep screwed back on humerus, supraspinatus screwed back onto scapula, rotator cuff repair done. What's not to be happy about.

Jesus christ mate, thats graphic stuff ! All very meaty !
I had the Bicep one done myself about 09.
Long road back as you learn to straighten the elbow again bit by bit.

[pritch]

Jesus christ mate, thats graphic stuff ! All very meaty !


Yeah. I was thinking the boy's got a touch of the Barry Sheene in him.

[roogazza]

I see they are wanting to make KR JR a Motogp Legend ???

I don't know if that should be the case ? Is, or was, he any better than say Hayden ?
Quite a few have won one Title,is that enough to make them a Legend?

Dorna might be pumping it cos COTA is on,and they want to ramp up the GP. :scratch:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Quite a few have won one Title,is that enough to make them a Legend?



KS even. Most consider him one.

[Dadpole]

They can't make a single title winner a Motogp Legend. At that rate single race winners will be legends in a few years. Imagine Jack Miller being inducted into the Motogp Legend Hall of Fame. (More a bell-end than a leg-end anyway.)

[onearmedbandit]

Depends (obviously) on your criteria for 'Legend' status. To me they're all legends, obviously some more than others but damn anyone who can make one of those bikes perform is a legend to me. I doubt very few people who have joined KB for example could ride one quick enough to get the heat into the brakes and tyres to make it work properly, let alone make it corner or cope with the braking forces.

[EJK]

Depends (obviously) on your criteria for 'Legend' status. To me they're all legends, obviously some more than others but damn anyone who can make one of those bikes perform is a legend to me. I doubt very few people who have joined KB for example could ride one quick enough to get the heat into the brakes and tyres to make it work properly, let alone make it corner or cope with the braking forces.

Some years ago* I knew a guy who claimed he can stop traveling from 50kph to a stand still in 2 meters, thanks to high tech USD on his Kawasaki. He did say he was working towards MotoGP racing. To his naysayer he responded "I'll least die trying..." or something. Maybe he could ride a MotoGP bike? :lol:


*dang, nearly a decade!

[Crasherfromwayback]

I doubt very few people who have joined KB for example could ride one quick enough to get the heat into the brakes and tyres to make it work properly, let alone make it corner or cope with the braking forces.

I'd second that.


Some years ago* I knew a guy who claimed he can stop traveling from 50kph to a stand still in 2 meters, thanks to high tech USD on his Kawasaki. He did say he was working towards MotoGP racing. To his naysayer he responded "I'll least die trying..." or something. Maybe he could ride a MotoGP bike? :lol:


*dang, nearly a decade!

Hahahahahahaha. Gold!

[Dadpole]

Nice piece on KR Junior here https://www.superbikeplanet.com/not-bothered-kenny-roberts-jr/

[Crasherfromwayback]

Nice piece on KR Junior here https://www.superbikeplanet.com/not-bothered-kenny-roberts-jr/

Beat me to it.

[Autech]

Some years ago* I knew a guy who claimed he can stop traveling from 50kph to a stand still in 2 meters


I can do that, but only when confronted with a wasp in my helmet.


I'd second that.


Fair few probably reckon they could, tbh in an alternate universe were I ever given the chance to ride a motogp bike I'd be happy to just keep it on two wheels and not shit myself when I twisted the go grip.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Fair few probably reckon they could, tbh in an alternate universe were I ever given the chance to ride a motogp bike I'd be happy to just keep it on two wheels and not shit myself when I twisted the go grip.

Having raced an RS250 GP bike a few times, I can only imagine what the big boys version is like. Can't wipe the smile off Bruce's face when you talk to him about it.

[onearmedbandit]

Nice piece on KR Junior here https://www.superbikeplanet.com/not-bothered-kenny-roberts-jr/

Great read, thanks for posting that up.