Bucket update

[Ivan]

buckets is cheap and easy to do so long as you can ride a bike

[Meekey_Mouse]

buckets is cheap and easy to do so long as you can ride a bike

Awesome, could some one who doesn't mind answering some questions please PM me with what sort of bikes you are allowed, how to get into it etc. etc... ??

[Sketchy_Racer]

Meeky Mouse-

Buckets can be as cheap as you want or as expensive as you want.

Normally getting a bucket means you like stuffing around with mechanical stuff,
Or if you just want to go and enjoy riding without getting you hands dirty, Just get a FXR150.

They are simple. Put gas in and ride.

They are a bit pricey to buy (normally around $1000 for a crashed road one)

But keep your eye out and you can find a cheap one for $500 or less.

With a bike like a FXR, it would cost you Fuel and entry fees. Which is not a great deal of $$$.

-RG

[Skunk]

My AX100 cost me $100. If I hadn't done the work myself it would have cost maybe $800-1000 to buy the bits I've changed and get someone to fit them over the last year. As I did everything myself the parts have mostly been given to me (because I turn up and race) and cost maybe $200 to fit.
It all depends on what you can do, what you want to do and how much you want to spend.

You need good one piece or zip-together two piece leathers and a competion license.

Bikes and 50cc for F5, 100-125cc two stroke or 150cc four stroke for F4.

Best idea is the find a good existing bucket that is for sale if you want to fiddle or buy an FXR150 if you don't.

[ajturbo]

Awesome, could some one who doesn't mind answering some questions please PM me with what sort of bikes you are allowed, how to get into it etc. etc... ??
luke has a rg50 cost 2 days work
i have a gt125 cost $150 plus $250 to tune and tyres
but a ts125 etc.. would do .. or the fxr but they are slow and heavy eh RG...

only thing with the rg... it seams to break, brake leavers... when you fall over ( ask luke about that hahahaha)

[Sketchy_Racer]

haha.

They aren't slow.

The power is progressive, yeah thats it. Progressive.

The only reason it was heavy was cause you were sitting on it!! :p

[bistard]

My Bucket started off as a blown up $250.00 ZXR250,pulled the engine out,sold most of the road gear,for a huge profit,I have put a Honda GL145 motor in it,painted the thing myself,put some new tyres on & away we go
I got a really hard time the first meeting I turned up to as it was all one colour & as they reckoned too pretty to be a bucket,but showed them all by winning the first race
Its just a shame there is nowhere to use them anymore,the Kart club wants $1000.00 per day to use Kaitoke
The other thing I put on it was,I had a damaged carbon fibre Akrapovic muffler,which I cut down,looks & sounds cool
But now just sits in the garage with all the other toys

[Sketchy_Racer]

Hey Bistard,

Wanna give away that good for nuttin old ZXR145??

Common, ya know you wanna

[bistard]

Hey,young RG100,youve been hanging around that dodgy Sprozen to long
havnt you?
I dont want to give it away,but everythings for sale at a price
Its got a proven history,it won the two hour a couple of years ago,stayed in one piece,unlike Baydens thing
Haha

[Sketchy_Racer]

Haha, Dodgy Sprozen.... I'll have to tell him that ( although i'm sure it's not the first time hes heard it)

Hmmm... Money ehhhh...
I don't got no money after buying my RS....

haha, Baydens bike has a HUGE history....









...... at blowing up all the time

[bistard]

Here is a very famous Sprozen quote


"Its only cheating when you are caught"

Heres another

"Which way does the track go & whats the lap record"

What size motor does he run in his Bucket,hmmmmmm let me see??

I hope you dont pick uo too many of his bad habits

[Sketchy_Racer]

haha. Yes he tried to convince me to cheat when i was doing streetstocks.

" ahhh you wont get caught... and everyone else will be cheating "

The bog stock KRR did a pretty good job, except the crappy front forks, flexy frame, and crap ground clearance...

Ohhh. His 'new' motor for his bucket.

He claims that thing is so hotted up.. he's not even going to let me know whats happening inside.

AND, He has a 'real' mechanic putting it together so it should last more than a few laps this time.

Once he gets this going, he will be more motivated to organise some races.

[Ivan]

Hey is this Barry? if so I know the bike yeah it is a nice bike and it went well at the 2 hour a few years ago I saw that

[Skunk]

Hey is this Barry? if so I know the bike yeah it is a nice bike and it went well at the 2 hour a few years ago I saw that
Hands off Ivan! - I'm making him an offer... Just been round to see it.

[Sketchy_Racer]

So i guess you might have a nice little AX100 to get rid of aye Skunk? :innocent:

[Skunk]

So i guess you might have a nice little AX100 to get rid of aye Skunk? :innocent:
No.


I've been told not to sell it by Skunk Control. Not yet anyway.
It's 'hot' motor is being built as we type...

[Sketchy_Racer]

Ahhh Fidle sticks.

I want a old heap that i can use as a bucket. It must be a runner though.

better watch out, the old GL145 motor might be a bit of a handful









Who am i kidding, its a honda motor

[Skunk]

I don't own it yet... I've only put in an offer.
If this falls through I've still got the TZR125TF project.
If it goes ahead the TZR will be a TZR250 track bike.

Either way I will have two buckets for different types of tracks.

[Sketchy_Racer]

If the TZR is running. Don't touch it. Make it a track bike. Much more fun...

I have been scouring trademe for ages now, and i still can't find a damn bucket ( thats cheap enough )

[Skunk]

The TZR is far from running. See my sig for parts still required.


And an engine...

[Ivan]

[QUOTE=RG100!!;837501]Ahhh Fidle sticks.

I want a old heap that i can use as a bucket.





Better watch out calling it a heap thats no way to get a bucket or get to ride a bucket around buddy

[Sketchy_Racer]

Better watch out calling it a heap thats no way to get a bucket or get to ride a bucket around buddy

Ummm, Dumbass

I wasn't calling his an old heap, I was saying i want an old heap ( cause they are cheap)

[Skunk]

And I've got a new (old) bucket. Nah, nah, nah!

That's makes two runners and one in the works. Actually the one in the works looks like becoming the 250cc bike again...

[gav]

And I've got a new (old) bucket. Nah, nah, nah!

That's makes two runners and one in the works. Actually the one in the works looks like becoming the 250cc bike again...
So, you've got the ZXR145 then?

[Ivan]

So, you've got the ZXR145 then?

Exactlywhat I thought so do you need the barrel I gave you still?

[Sketchy_Racer]

And I've got a new (old) bucket. Nah, nah, nah!

That's makes two runners and one in the works. Actually the one in the works looks like becoming the 250cc bike again...

Good stuff.

I assume it is the ZXR145??









I'm trying very hard not to be jealous...... who am i kidding!!

[bistard]

Yeah,I cant actually believe I have agreed to sell the mighty ZXR145
but I need the space in my garage
I might talk nicely to Skunk & see if I can maybe do a guest apearance
at some stage in the future
Skunk has got himself a fantastic little bike & I hope he looks after it

[Sketchy_Racer]

Haha,

Don't worry, Skunk control does a great job at cleaning bikes. It will be very well looked after. :)

[Skunk]

Yes the ZXR145... lovely.

Bistard: It's a Kawasaki - it will be very well looked after. Not like that Suzuki piece of shit.

And I can't believe I got either... And you're welcome to do a guest appearance (on the AX) :lol:

Ivan: which barrel is that you're talking about? The AX? Yes I need that. But the TF could be up for grabs. I need time to think though.

[Sketchy_Racer]

Just remember Skunk.

Ivan has three bikes worth of crap,

I think it should go towards someone a little more deserving ( dif dif )

[Skunk]

Just remember Skunk.

Ivan has three bikes worth of crap,

I think it should go towards someone a little more deserving ( dif dif )
Don't panic RG... it's only a rooted TF125 engine.

[Sketchy_Racer]

Oh... All good then. Sounds like Ivans Kinda toy

[Ivan]

Don't panic RG... it's only a rooted TF125 engine.

it my type of engine and I need to put my top end on and id b set

[gav]

Why, what happened to the rebuilt bottom end of the TF100 you did, had all new bearings etc didnt it?

[Skunk]

Don't ask Gav. Just shake your head, turn around, and walk away. It's best that way. It's what we do up here.

[Sketchy_Racer]

What do you think.

He spent so much time talking shit about how fast it was gonig to be, that it never got finished

[Sketchy_Racer]

Don't ask Gav. Just shake your head, turn around, and walk away. It's best that way. It's what we do up here.

HAHAHAHA...

You must spread the rep yada yada yada......

[Ivan]

Nah I need some parts which are missing from that engine to finish it off the gear box is screwed

[Sketchy_Racer]

cause you screwed it!

[Buddha#81]

cause you screwed it!

Would that not hurt Mr Wobbly.::love: :shit::gob: I spose plenty of "O' ring lube and anything would be possible, must be a North Island thing.:yes:

[Ivan]

cause you screwed it!

No the gear bix selector forks are dodgy and dont work at all its a peice of crap engine barthe bearings and seals

[Sketchy_Racer]

good one why did you get get a stuffed motor then.... Dumbass :lol:

[Ivan]

good one why did you get get a stuffed motor then.... Dumbass :lol:

Because Im going to fix it but im not really to bothered when it gets done

[Skunk]

Here's my new bucket. Not one I built (which is what I enjoy most about buckets) but I do have mods planned for the long term.

Don't panic Bistard, they're all ones I think you would approve of.

[ajturbo]

Here's my new bucket. Not one I built (which is what I enjoy most about buckets) but I do have mods planned for the long term.

Don't panic Bistard, they're all ones I think you would approve of.

but what about the leavers????

[Skunk]

What about them? The other one is fine...

[Sketchy_Racer]

Looking nice skunk!

Ya need to get a different tail piece though, the anciant TZ one just aint cutting it ;)

[Skunk]

Don't I know it. Looking at fitting a KR250 tailpiece.

[Sketchy_Racer]

cool as.

I would offer you the 3tonne tail i have at home, but im sure its not much use.

It came with that honda thing that i got today...

[stanko]

cool as.

I would offer you the 3tonne tail i have at home, but im sure its not much use.

It came with that honda thing that i got today...


3 tonne is quite heavy, probably need to upgrade the rear shock.

[ajturbo]

would you guys stop wanking on about girly looking your bikes are and just ride the fuckers!!!

it's not about how good you look when you go past the finish line...

it is about how spectacular the crash is!!!:scooter:

[Sketchy_Racer]

haha, im sorry andy.

I thought the rule was:

"if you're going slow, at least look good doing it"

:P

[Expert]

What is that green ZXR thing?

[Skunk]

It's an 89 ZXR250 with a Honda GL145 motor.

And I need a 'good looking' bike cos I am slow. That's why I polished it today, and fixed the brake lever.

[gav]

Looks heavy...I'm sure it doesnt really need twin disks and upside down forks, especially riding around those car parks you lot have?

Of course the fact I PMed the previous owner who replied "nah, not really selling it, just kidding with RG100!?" , has nothing to do with it......:innocent:

[Kickaha]

Looks heavy...I'm sure it doesnt really need twin disks and upside down forks, especially riding around those car parks you lot have?


Thats something haven't been able to understand abou the NI bikes, why use a full size 250 chassis with stock wheel base,twin discs and all the crap when you race on such short circuits?

personally I'd be looking for something lighter and shorter

They do look good though

[Ivan]

Yeah I know the little chassis are better for the car parks and I know what you guys are on about with weight my AX 100 is in a ZZR250 chassis and has had the sub frame lightened and had as much shit taken off it as possible and it weighs a tonn!

I still prefer my RG50 chassis which is short light and slow, I just need to get some new jets for it to alter the jetting when you rev it you hear it bog like it is drowning in fuel I want it to sound crisp and be able to leave the corner full throttle

[Skunk]

Looks heavy...I'm sure it doesnt really need twin disks and upside down forks, especially riding around those car parks you lot have?

Of course the fact I PMed the previous owner who replied "nah, not really selling it, just kidding with RG100!?" , has nothing to do with it......:innocent:
You're right Gav, it is heavy. This one is for the bigger tracks and I have the AX100 for the smaller tracks.

Smart eh? :dodge:

[Ivan]

You're right Gav, it is heavy. This one is for the bigger tracks and I have the AX100 for the smaller tracks.

Smart eh? :dodge:

to be honest i think the zxr145 is the better bucket of the 2 the four stroke is nice fast and reliable engine the ax as you know has gear box issues etc I like my AX but still prefer my XL125 engine

[Sketchy_Racer]

How can you prefer you XL engine Ivan.... it doesnt even run, and you have never ridden it....

and i hope someone with some knowledge about jetting comes along and tells you that you need to richen it not lean it out more. (RG50)

[Ivan]

How can you prefer you XL engine Ivan.... it doesnt even run, and you have never ridden it....

and i hope someone with some knowledge about jetting comes along and tells you that you need to richen it not lean it out more. (RG50)

it does run


and ask jay he even said that it is running to rich i do know how to jet as well maybe thats why my RS125 jetting is perfect!

[Sketchy_Racer]

Is Jay a mechanic? No.

Can someone, say F5 Dave or Speedpro

Explain to me (and Ivan) how that taking the airbox and baffles out of a bike can make it run lean?

I am sure that if you increase air flow, it will lean out right?
And when it is lean, it wont let you hold full throttle.?
Ir it will rev really well in neutral, but not give any power

When it is rich, it will feel like it has the choke on, or it wont rev out? but you can hold full throttle?

[Ivan]

Is Jay a mechanic? No.

Can someone, say F5 Dave or Speedpro

Explain to me (and Ivan) how that taking the airbox and baffles out of a bike can make it run lean?

I am sure that if you increase air flow, it will lean out right?
And when it is lean, it wont let you hold full throttle.?
Ir it will rev really well in neutral, but not give any power

When it is rich, it will feel like it has the choke on, or it wont rev out? but you can hold full throttle?

Nah that was all done before I brought it and it does feel like the choke is on and you can hold full throttle it was rebuilt before i brought it and probably jetted it for a different altitude remember wairarapa is diff altertude to wellington

[MattRSK]

At least he doesn't think his Honda is a Kawasaki.

[Sketchy_Racer]

look mate, your just pissed cause i dont wanna own a fags bike like yours.

Sheesh, getoverit

:p

[MattRSK]

I don't own a bike!

[Sketchy_Racer]

well who do you think you are trying to tell me my Kawasaki is a honda eh?

[MattRSK]

I am borrowing God's.

[Sketchy_Racer]

Dont scratch it, he gets real, REAL pissed off.

[Ivan]

Yeah is there much of a diff in chassis's between ZXR andZZR 250?


Has anybody got a good idea on how to make a expander bracket for a carb so I can run a bigger carb on my AX I have a early RM80 carb round slide but has a big opening on it now this carb should work with the old AX engine just jetting will need to be sorted,


Now I dont want to alter the old AX manifold incase this carb doesnt work and I can run the original incase of an emergancy. Now I remember reading with four strokes the further away the carb the diff in power it produces I have access to a workshop to work in if I need to.

My thoughts were to actually try buil another manifold I havent ported the inlet side so the ports are the same size as standered.

Any Ideas anyone

I tried to write this to sound sophisticated:yes:

[Skunk]

Meh, they go fine with a standard carb until they are seriously ported. A bigger carb will stuff the bottom end of the rev range and you need a good bottom end with the 4-speed box.

[Ivan]

Yes but myne doesnt have a bottom end power range it has to rev right up to top end and I dont care about being in the top end it will help outthe power range considering my chamber is a bigger etc and my exhaust port is ported I cant remember if Glen rode it when we started it Wont hit power band until engine is hot

[Buddha#81]

Yes but myne doesnt have a bottom end power range it has to rev right up to top end and I dont care about being in the top end it will help outthe power range considering my chamber is a bigger etc and my exhaust port is ported I cant remember if Glen rode it when we started it Wont hit power band until engine is hot

Looks like you need to buy a new power band, Supercheap has them on special for Xmas.

[Skunk]

He needs one of the cold run powerbands. The AX only comes with the hot run ones.

I hear they're hard to get for AX100's.

[Ivan]

yeah I know what a power band is aye maybe thats why im a mechanic

[Ivan]

Is Jay a mechanic? No.





Are you a mechanic?


NO:dodge:

[Skunk]

yeah I know what a power band is aye maybe thats why im a mechanic
I know what a piston is. Does that mean I'm a mechanic too?

[Sketchy_Racer]

Are you a mechanic?


NO:dodge:

I know im not,

the fact that your ARE is what scares us all.


Skunk - you definatly qualify as a mechanic if ivan does... :mellow:

[F5 Dave]

This almost makes my brain hurt.

So you want to make a bracket to hold a carb? Wouldn’t an inlet manifold be better?

& then you want to run an RM80 carb? A bike that makes maybe 20hp, onto an engine that makes say 5 when new?

. . . Ok well that is possible, but you need to have everything matched. The inlet especially. There is no point having a huge carb & then restricting it down to a 16mm inlet is there? C’mon.

But Skunk’s comments are the most pertinent. 4 speed box means the torque is going to fall off too far in between gear-changes if you don’t have a good spread of power. High revving engines do not. My RG barely gets away with 6 & judicious clutch, but 7 or 8 would be better. Read Graham Bells 2 stroke book, there is a good explanation.

This is a truly miserable engine if you want high power. If you want easy to ride -then step right up. Bit more compression is about all I would do to it.

More importantly RG100 - what the hell is Bayden up to? Any more races planned?

[Ivan]

Hey Dave,


Yep Ive read that and know about that power but I not to worried really the standered carb I have is puny as, I not to worried about it I just tryingto build a engine and then dyno it and see how much power I can make

[Ivan]

Hey guys theres a 98% chance that the Aprillia could be rideable today

[Buddha#81]

Hey guys theres a 98% chance that the Aprillia could be rideable today

FFS tell us WHEN you get it going.

[Skunk]

That means it won't be doesn't it?

Define 'rideable' while you're at it.

[F5 Dave]

There's a 120% chance my 125 won't be raceable today.

It was 'going' 3 weeks back.

[Skunk]

Anyone got a left hand M6x1 die?

[stanko]

Anyone got a left hand M6x1 die?


Is it for a gear linkage adjuster? may be easier to get it screwcut on a lathe.
Can help if you are desperate

[Skunk]

Not desperate yet but getting there. Haven't found anyone to cut it on a lathe for less than $70 so far. I've started a thread to see if anyone got help.
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=860170

[Ivan]

That means it won't be doesn't it?

Define 'rideable' while you're at it.

Ok ridable is when the engine is running and you put it in gear and let the clutch out and it rolls forwards and if you dont rev it enough it will stall.


And It will be I have access to everything and I just machined my Aprillia last wdnesday and got my new rear sprocket to add onto it today and also have a chain and a tank and a seat etc all I need to do is put the newsprocket on hopefully an hour max thats to fit it and make sure it fits the bike correctly.


Also I have a test track called the college quad to ride around on and when I get it rideable Ill take a video on dads camera phone and put it up on here for all you guys to see and my smile will be from ear to ear

[Skunk]

So it still needs brakes and steering thingys then, and tuning... Gotya.

[Buddha#81]

Ive gone all purple from holding my breath.:shutup:

".........all I need to ........I only just.............where is that.............just one more? Fark, I wish I never opened my gob!":dodge: :bye:

[Sketchy_Racer]

haha,

Ivan, what do you mean you 'machined' your 'aprilia' today? ( and you told me the aprilia was your dads)


on anoter note,

(and completly ir-relevant)

I got all my tools today!! mint

You name it, i got it. Vernier (digital) , micrometer High quality socket set spnners torque wrence.....ohhhh yeah, the good life....

[Ivan]

haha,

Ivan, what do you mean you 'machined' your 'aprilia' today? ( and you told me the aprilia was your dads)


on anoter note,

(and completly ir-relevant)

I got all my tools today!! mint

You name it, i got it. Vernier (digital) , micrometer High quality socket set spnners torque wrence.....ohhhh yeah, the good life....


Ok I did it I rode the bike tonight around and around the courts was so stoked even took off in 3rd gear with 1 piston ring and it blew no smoke at all I am still happy

[Sketchy_Racer]

so....


Is it still 'makingsomuchpower' that it 'isshackinthewholethingapart' ??

Lol, jokes.

Is it fast??

[Ivan]

Is it fast??

Is it what but my chains stuffed and fept falling off will just get a new one old one to streched must be all that tourque I did it atlong lastits now doing the final bitsfor racing come over some stage aye man

[gav]

photos? :scooter:

[Ivan]

none sorry not at the momment mum was videoing it on camera but didnt tape it will get some friday when i next work on it

[Sketchy_Racer]

Is it what but my chains stuffed and fept falling off will just get a new one old one to streched must be all that tourque I did it atlong lastits now doing the final bitsfor racing come over some stage aye man

A stretched chain wont be the only cause of it falling off the sprockets.

Check your sprocket allignment.

and if you havnt changed the engine bolts since i was there, change them.

Do things properly:whocares:

[Ivan]

not this side of christmas at the rate hes going...............

an old saying from page 5 and i beat it yeha:rockon:

[Ivan]

A stretched chain wont be the only cause of it falling off the sprockets.

Check your sprocket allignment.

and if you havnt changed the engine bolts since i was there, change them.

Do things properly:whocares:

nah it wont tension out anyways im off to bed keen to seeing some teasing

[Sketchy_Racer]

haha.....

FU**ER :p

[ajturbo]

i was going to pop in and see what all the fuss was about, unfortnatly i was side tracked to go over pie-cock hill instead!!!

[Ivan]

haha.....

FU**ER :p

shut up of ya face

nice to here bout tools keep them good ok see ya mate

[ajturbo]

haha,


on a note,

(completly ir-relevant)

I got all my tools today!! mint

You name it, i got it. .

next time i really don't need to know about your multi tipped vibratorS...:sick:

[Skunk]

...must be all that tourque I did it...
Yeah, you really did some talk...

[bungbung]

mum was videoing it on camera but didnt tape it

?

Come on Ivan, post up some video/photos!

[Ivan]

?

Come on Ivan, post up some video/photos!

trust me they are coming

[Skunk]

Before Christmas or what?

[Ivan]

Before Christmas or what?

Yep,


The pics and the video willbe up tommorow I went for a good Legal ride on closed roads today:yes:

The stuffed ring that it has did not want to go full throttle real slow but has good torque I can take off in 3rd gear with ease

I did like the bike tho it runs real smooth until you put it under labour when you ride it

[gav]

Hmm, still no show on the photos and stuff huh?

[k14]

Hmm, still no show on the photos and stuff huh?
What about photos of your one gav???

I'm sure Ivan was having too much fun on it today to take any pics. It's probably even too fast for a camera to even take a pic of it. :done:

[gav]

Umm, playing golf...
Photos of my bucket? Sure which bit did you want to see? :dodge:

[Skunk]

It's probably even too fast for a camera to even take a pic of it. :done:
Yeah, I think he's out looking for a high speed camera now.

[gav]

Normally mounted on a pole, arent they? :mellow:

[Sketchy_Racer]

hahaha....

Its hard to see the bike through all the smoke!!!!!

[Skunk]

Here's a pic from a secret source. You can just see Ivan on the bike to the left:

[Sketchy_Racer]

Na, you missed him in that photo....

Here's a good shot of him going by

[k14]

Na, you missed him in that photo....

Here's a good shot of him going by
WHAT??? Come on ivan, put a helmet on, thats dangerous at those speeds :scooter:

[ajturbo]

Umm, playing golf...
Photos of my bucket? Sure which bit did you want to see? :dodge:
any one that you actully RACE.....

[dangerous]

God people, Im so sick of this ongoing thread... yet I still come back to it piss my self silly, I must be as darft as Ivan... he cant stay away either and seems to love the attention... or is that ritacule, come on Ivan explain the two photos above :Punk:

[Ivan]

Ok the photo on the right is me you can seemy ginger hair sticking out must be x ray vision
Or just my ginga mop:dodge:


And Im having problems with getting the video off the phone

[Skunk]

And Im having problems with getting the...
Yep, you got problems all right...

[Buddha#81]

Having issues must have someting to do with having ginger hair.

[steve k]

God people, Im so sick of this ongoing thread... yet I still come back to it piss my self silly, I must be as darft as Ivan... he cant stay away either and seems to love the attention... or is that ritacule, come on Ivan explain the two photos above :Punk:

Your right there. Oh and your spelling is good for a giggle as well.:dodge:

[speedpro]

Your right there. Oh and your spelling is good for a giggle as well.:dodge:

You're version of English are good for a giggle as well

[Skunk]

OK Ivan has shown me 'video' of something moving and not coming back. It could have been a bucket or a car, I'm not sure. He insists it's the bucket.

Either way it was damn slow... :yes:

[Ivan]

OK Ivan has shown me 'video' of something moving and not coming back. It could have been a bucket or a car, I'm not sure. He insists it's the bucket.

Either way it was damn slow... :yes:

It was a prototype version of course as well skunk

[Ivan]

Hello again......


ITS ALIVE AGAIN THIS THREAD CAN NEVER DIE

MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA:sick:

[Expert]

Hey Ivan,
Just to keep your thread going a bit longer here is an update picture of my bucket all finished, now i got to learn how to ride!
where's this new bucket of yours???

[dangerous]

Hello again......


ITS ALIVE AGAIN THIS THREAD CAN NEVER DIE

MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA:sick:

... what now Ivan?

[Ivan]

Sweet thanks expert
Bike looking pretty mean,
I thought I uploaded some pics I munt have Ill have a look on PC

[Sketchy_Racer]

Nice bike Expert.

We have a guy down here running the same setup as you Except his is a DR125 motor.

RGV250 Pre 1990 with TZR 250 rims

Comon, spill the beans, how much HP is it making?

[Sketchy_Racer]

... what now Ivan?


Dont ask why, just shake your head, and walk away

Listen to those who are experienced:shutup:

[Ivan]

... what now Ivan?

Nothing just starting a thread again:yes:

[Ivan]

This is the thread which annoys all that reads it but for some reason it always pulls you back in,

[Expert]

Dunno how much power it's making, not enough is the obvious answer!
Yeah the frame is a 88 rgv250 but i cut out about 80mm under the middle of the tank to shorten it up to turn faster. shortening the tank was a bugger though! Motor is a xt200 stroked down to 150 but still needs more developement, might get ivan onto it!

[Ivan]

im free at any stage

[Expert]

There are some picture of a two hour race we had up here in Auckland on www.gofastfilms.co.nz. If you go on there and look for the two hour bucket and enter your bike number you get a load of photos of you racing around. My number was 44. It's my mate Toby's girlfriend Kirsten's website and the photos are real good.

[Expert]

See that proves it does actually go!
It was a two man race and I'm the lanky twat riding around like he's just popping down the shop for a pint of milk and a paper!

[Ivan]

Ok heres a picture of my AX100
Its still not finished of course.
It is a ZZR250 chassis with clipon handle bars Ax100 semi standered engine
With RS125 Ducktail of a 89-90 RS125 Honda RS125


Engine work has had Exhaust port cleaned no modification just casting impuritys removed and Auto Sole polished.
Timing has been retarded
Carb is off a RM80
Expansion chamber at mo is of a RD350 but is getting replaced with a YZ80 chamber

so there you go

[Flyno]

Nice ride man, you should tho really gt an rs frame! they kick ass

[dangerous]

Nice ride man, you should tho really gt an rs frame! they kick ass

But in the spirit of bucket racing... no compition parts including GP frames, pistons FXR's etc :rockon:

[Kickaha]

But in the spirit of bucket racing... no compition parts including GP frames, pistons FXR's etc :rockon:

means one of your bikes gets kicked out then

[dangerous]

means one of your bikes gets kicked out then
No.. its not a factory GP frame its a 30yr old frame built in a back yard, copied from a then GP bike, but since badley butchered.

Hey Iwas told the other night its twin bro another frame built in Chch is in a garage near by, a old racer owns it maybe a bucket too???

[Ivan]

Awsome and its not like its going to handle that well considering its 30 years old and a replica its a real bucket frame homebuilt.


What sorta power you making out of it.


I am waiting to hear that my bikes ashitta but still no compliments yet

[gav]

So Ivan what happened to this? http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=523319&postcount=145

[Ivan]

Well if you look the Fairing is on that bike,
The Right hand side foot hanger rear set went to Flyno
The Wheel of the front is now my motard rim
The Frame is in my spare bucket parts garage
The Rear wheel is going on this frame
So yeah there it is in lots of parts you knowthose grand prix details.


I was very keen to build that but the front end was far to heavy

[gav]

I would've thought that your current ZZR250 front end would weigh pretty much the same as the FZR400 front end on the RS? Hard to believe that ZZR front end is substantionally lighter?

[ajturbo]

But in the spirit of bucket racing... no compition parts including GP frames, pistons FXR's etc :rockon:
that includes the RM and YZ bits??!!!

[diesel pig]

Ok heres my AX100
Its still not finished of course.


It's a thing of beauty Ivan

[Kickaha]

No.. its not a factory GP frame its a 30yr old frame built in a back yard, copied from a then GP bike, but since badley butchered.


where does it say "factory GP frames here ?
But in the spirit of bucket racing... no compition parts including GP frames, pistons FXR's etc :rockon:

right so yours goes on the tip as well ::finger:

[dangerous]

where does it say "factory GP frames here ?

right so yours goes on the tip as well ::finger:

Ahhh.. in my previous post :yes:

[Ivan]

yep zzr is the same but the frame is designed to suit that the rs frame wanted to fall over all the time because its so light and the front was too heavy


Yep AJ YZ parts are bad I must be cheating?

[Ivan]

I like Dangerous's bike real cool,


But mynes cooler:scooter:

[ajturbo]

yep zzr is the same but the frame is designed to suit that the rs frame wanted to fall over all the time because its so light and the front was too heavy


Yep AJ YZ parts are bad I must be cheating?
i really don't care what ya run... i know the rules and if i get (IF) beaten by a cheat.. so be it i am not going to rave on about cheats... or what parts are legit...

hahahahahahha
on ya bike bitch....

[Ivan]

i really don't care what ya run... i know the rules and if i get (IF) beaten by a cheat.. so be it i am not going to rave on about cheats... or what parts are legit...

hahahahahahha
on ya bike bitch....

iknow mate

[Ivan]

you will be howling

[ajturbo]

bla bla bla.. ge the count up eh. ivan

[Sketchy_Racer]

+1 to the post count :p

Ivan, your a tosser

Aj, knock him off the bike for me, ta

[speedpro]

I've been accused of cheating before, after an Ohakea GP. After the race motors from the top placed bikes were partially dismantled and measured and looked over. The scrutineer of all people took one look at my reed valve and started making all sorts of noises. It wasn't illegal and some others sorted it out for me.
All my new stuff, which isn't so "new" after all these years, is really pushing the rule book but is still totally legal. A "quick" measure of a few things will have people squeeling about rules and cheating.
Actually now that I'm home alone I'll be talking to my "Ace Alloy Welder" mate tomorrow about finishing fitting the motor into the RS chassis.

Point is - make absolutely sure that you have really read the rule book and understand what is written, not what you think is right or wrong, and that what you are looking at is actually what it seems before going off making accusations.

Of course if the bike is a slow old dog who cares.

[Ivan]

+1 to the post count :p

Ivan, your a tosser

Aj, knock him off the bike for me, ta

Why AJ you too slow tokeep up:dodge:

[Ivan]

I've been accused of cheating before, after an Ohakea GP. After the race motors from the top placed bikes were partially dismantled and measured and looked over. The scrutineer of all people took one look at my reed valve and started making all sorts of noises. It wasn't illegal and some others sorted it out for me.
All my new stuff, which isn't so "new" after all these years, is really pushing the rule book but is still totally legal. A "quick" measure of a few things will have people squeeling about rules and cheating.
Actually now that I'm home alone I'll be talking to my "Ace Alloy Welder" mate tomorrow about finishing fitting the motor into the RS chassis.

Point is - make absolutely sure that you have really read the rule book and understand what is written, not what you think is right or wrong, and that what you are looking at is actually what it seems before going off making accusations.

Of course if the bike is a slow old dog who cares.

Thats Sucks I dont class you as a cheat I class your bike as a race bike,
Its fast I know but thats the fun of buckets, building something fast.
I even know that your bike runs well for two laps then It starts overheating which instantly stuffs your jetting up so your bike is fast for a quick burst then thats it.

My dad got called a cheat a few years back for running a Aprillia RS50 this guy said he was cheating because of it being Italian:whocares:


Of course when my AX hits the track I wil be called a cheat as I power slide past all of ya's:tugger:

[gav]

Sometimes its how the rules are written, and how an individual interprets those rules that can lead to misunderstandings.

[Ivan]

:yes: Rules are for wimps

[Sketchy_Racer]

Fuck, your the gayest whimp of them all ivan.

And no rules arent for whimps, rules are for people who wanna race, whithout some cheating prick beating them

Fuck i hate cheating pricks

[JayRacer37]

Fuck, your the gayest whimp of them all ivan.

And no rules arent for whimps, rules are for people who wanna race, whithout some cheating prick beating them

Fuck i hate cheating pricks


hows about pricks who just go plain fast on buckets with very little HP?? hehe, maybe the frame has somthing to do with it....you can always lean them RS honda frames a little further..... :yes:

[Ivan]

you know I dont cheat but in saying that competition parts can be classsed with my RM80 carb and YZ80 Chamber


And Anyone who knows knows that my 50 is as standered as the hills that whole rules are for wimps was a joke trying to say that my bike is slow and i was cracking a funny

[Sketchy_Racer]

hows about pricks who just go plain fast on buckets with very little HP?? hehe, maybe the frame has somthing to do with it....you can always lean them RS honda frames a little further.....
haha, yeah ya little prick,

although, i did a have rather large HP advantage huh

[Ivan]

hows about pricks who just go plain fast on buckets with very little HP?? hehe, maybe the frame has somthing to do with it....you can always lean them RS honda frames a little further..... :yes:

Hehe Yep that little 50 gets the shit thrashed out of it
You wait till you get to ride the AX:sick: or the Aprilia:sick:

[JayRacer37]

surely did....but thats ok, i have no brakes for a reason...still, u managed to crash it locking the front eh?? haha

[Sketchy_Racer]

surely did....but thats ok, i have no brakes for a reason...still, u managed to crash it locking the front eh?? haha

Keep it sliding until your on ya arse :rockon:

[JayRacer37]

oh yea......sliding on WHAT?

[Sketchy_Racer]

Double post

[Ivan]

Keep it rubber side up was my last helpful quote:shit:

[Sketchy_Racer]

oh yea......sliding on WHAT?

Knee, elbow, shouder..... arse...

Im stil going around the corner right?

[Sketchy_Racer]

Keep it rubber side up was my last helpful quote:shit:

You're never helpful....

Well, Aj might beg to differ aye Aj :sick:

[JayRacer37]

well....round for a bit...i guess. but then, how often do u not ride out the other side?

[Ivan]

DONT BURGLE MY THREAD
I AM GOD OF THIS THREAD


But on a serious side me 50 went through radical weight reduction
I took a strip off ducktape off:dodge:

[Sketchy_Racer]

DONT BURGLE MY THREAD
I AM GOD OF THIS THREAD


But on a serious side me 50 went through radical weight reduction
I took a strip off ducktape off:dodge:

Stop posting drivel ivan

[Buddha#81]

DONT BURGLE MY THREAD
I AM GOD OF THIS THREAD


But on a serious side me 50 went through radical weight reduction
I took a strip off ducktape off:dodge:

THAT COULD BE THE STRAW THAT BREAKS THE CAMELS BACK.

[Ivan]

Stop posting drivel ivan

Mythread ill do what i like

[JayRacer37]

DONT BURGLE MY THREAD
I AM GOD OF THIS THREAD


But on a serious side me 50 went through radical weight reduction
I took a strip off ducktape off:dodge:

why dont u go more radical and pull the "you have no freinds" sticker off.....cause its so true its sad. :shit:

[Ivan]

that gone and on my ax now hehehe
I got a standered RG seat on
The RS one wasnt cutting it

[JayRacer37]

that gone and on my ax now hehehe
I got a standered RG seat on
The RS one wasnt cutting it

ohh jeez, jus weight to much did it???

[Ivan]

nope squashed me nut sack lol

[Flyno]

wot nutsack lol! joks

[JayRacer37]

nuf of the details a bud....
though gawd noes how u got them stuck anywhere?

[Ivan]

i didnt stay stuck i said squashed........

That seatwas tooo wide Itgot clipons now as well

[Sketchy_Racer]

All class..........

[Flyno]

ivan you ride a 125, if your nuts are gtn squashed on that tail peice they must shrink wen you go on your real bike!

[Flyno]

yay 20 posts, lets make this one 21

[JayRacer37]

All class..........

only if ya like seeing urself getting passed eh matey....:dodge:

[Ivan]

ivan you ride a 125, if your nuts are gtn squashed on that tail peice they must shrink wen you go on your real bike!

RSone designed to fit RS frame nota RG frame

[Ivan]

only if ya like seeing urself getting passed eh matey....:dodge:

hahaha

That was quite good

[Sketchy_Racer]

Hey Ivan why dont u go more radical and pull the "you have no freinds" sticker off.....cause its so true its sad. :shit:

Haha, Hey Ivan,

So's this!

[Flyno]

Ivan you are getting owned lol!

[Ivan]

on my birthday too

NOT VERY NICE GUYS

[gav]

Have a good one, Ivan!

[Ivan]

cheers an hour an its over lol I got a nice Air Piece tool set with impactgun and die grinder and pieces very cool

[k14]

Ivan you are getting owned lol!
he's fairly used to that by now.

[Ivan]

Yip I not to worried

[Ivan]

So since the thread seems to be dieing off lets restart it any news on the wellington scene?

And is theregoing to be another Bush RIders club Bucket Motardthingy on the short circuit again this year? I am quite keen to end up there.

[ajturbo]

And is theregoing to be another Bush RIders club Bucket Motardthingy on the short circuit again this year? I am quite keen to end up there.

what... on your butt?:done:

[Ivan]

its my day of not understanding people

[Sketchy_Racer]

Is your day for being an idiot maybe?

[Ivan]

Is your day for being an idiot maybe?



Nah mate thats your day everyday inside out.


BURN MUDA F*&KER

On a Serious side answer your Freaking phone

[Sketchy_Racer]

No, my day includes (but is not limited to):

-Getting pissed off
-Going to work
-getting pissed off, cause im at work
- Getting happy, i did a good job
-getting pissed off someone broke it
-getting happy, im going home
-getting pissed off, cause i have to go back to work again the next day

Sorry, i dont answer my phone to talk to retards! ;)

[Buddha#81]

Dunno how much power it's making, not enough is the obvious answer!
Yeah the frame is a 88 rgv250 but i cut out about 80mm under the middle of the tank to shorten it up to turn faster. shortening the tank was a bugger though! Motor is a xt200 stroked down to 150 but still needs more developement, might get ivan onto it!

Has Ivan carried out that development yet.......probally not as he has his own projects to sort out.

[Ivan]

Yep I can develop forpeak horsepower:sick:

[Expert]

Anybody know when bucket racing at the Mt. Wellington track in AKL will resume?
What do you think of the new rumble strips that have been added to the track?

[Skunk]

Anybody know when bucket racing at the Mt. Wellington track in AKL will resume?
No, but I can say Wellington has a new track! Yeehaa!
First meet 11th of February...

[Ivan]

yeah i got the email today and am ready might bring the "gay x" along with me

[Korea]

So where's that then, and how can we find out about it?
11 Feb you say? Might come along to cheer - certainly won't be riding.

[Skunk]

Sooner on later it will be posted on the events (http://www.scs.net.nz/calendar.htm) page of this site. It's somewhere up near the Brooklyn Wind Turbine.

[Ivan]

Heres the link to the map to get to the circuit

http://www.scs.net.nz/images/flyer.pdf


SO now whos going?

[JayRacer37]

bring it Ivan, i'll be there...hopefully. Shit, its guna be a busy two months of riding for me then! haha, not that u'll hear me complaining!!

[Skunk]

I'll be there. Two bikes I hope - one for RG.

[Ivan]

Yeah, I am going to try get as many bikes there as possible to make this meeting a success,

I might bring my low rider RG50 and the GayX 100 super port job Insert tui add

I wonder if that smokey old GT125T will be there?
And if hegot it running on 2 cylinders yet or is stilltrying to save gas:rockon:

:done:

[Expert]

New bucket for auckland area coming soon, 1964 Yamaha A7!
Pictures to follow!
Goes like a Bastard!

[Skunk]

My bucket update... The ported engine is fitted to the frame. Couple of issues to sort with the carb and exhaust. But that's all. Then we tune... :shutup:

Here's some before and after pics (yes, the close ups are out of focus)

[Expert]

Looks fast. Are pictures 2+4 of the same engine? I got offered one of those ax100 yesterday, are they any good? Is that a special racing screw in the inlet of the picture 2 engine?

[Skunk]

Two different engines. AX100's have a crap 4 speed box. That screw was my old secret weapon... not so secret now though. Thanks for letting everybody know. :nono:

[Sketchy_Racer]

Is that ported barrel the one i gave to you?

[Ivan]

Hey RG you gave that barrel to me and I gave it to Skunk

[Sketchy_Racer]

lol, yeah, so i indirectly gave it to him ;)

[Ivan]

GET FUCKED:dodge:

[Skunk]

Children! Settle down before I bang your heads together!

Yep, it's that barrel with a new bore and a tickle.

[gav]

So are you going to strip it down to clean it then? Its a disgrace......:yes:

[Sketchy_Racer]

Pffft,

Thats clean as for a bucket!

;)

[gav]

Guess you havent seen some of the bikes down here then, have you?

[Sketchy_Racer]

Nope. Not really.

I've seen photos though...

[Skunk]

So are you going to strip it down to clean it then? Its a disgrace......:yes:

Bugger off. That's after it was cleaned.

[Ivan]

Mte RG I bet now you are regretting selling off both of your TF100's

I remember saying do you miss ya TF and you said Nah I got a FXR to replace it now you got nothing hahaha


SO GET OUT THERE OF YA SLACK BUM AND BUY ONE I MAY KNOW OF ONE FOR YOU I WILL TELL YOU LATER

[Ivan]

Currently have the barrel of my AX and am going to take it to a mate later on to see if he knows what I should do to it i have a rough idea but I dont want to wrck it so I dont touch the bore and adjust the shape of the port unless I canget another AX barrel


As you can see in skunks pics the exhaust port is small and sqaure right by the exhaust header should I make this round to get more flow and a better match up to my header pipe

[Skunk]

As you can see in skunks pics the exhaust port is small and sqaure right by the exhaust header should I make this round to get more flow and a better match up to my header pipe
Not if you're just getting to bugger up the port timing... :no:

[Ivan]

No, I dontmeanit that way leave the port thestandered shape but deep inside the port not the port window the port itself make that bigger to get more flow tat wont alter port timing at all


Just was wondnering.


I just spent the last couple of hours cleaning the ports to remove the casting impuritys and then took out a few lumps which disrupted gas flow, and then poured liqued through the port to see what it caught on and ground and filed and sanded away till it was nice smooth flow the whole way,


I also did the inlet to the reed cage i smoothed it all off and matched a few bits up which were disrupting flow removed the oil line sticking through it re smoothed it and cleaned it am going to polish both ports also so that it will have a nice fuel flow.


Im not just jumping in there and doing it for no reason, imtaking cautious steps to improve performance

[Sketchy_Racer]

So wheres your plan Ivan?

[Ivan]

my plan is there to improve flow for better performancewithout doing anything to the port window


And my planis tokick your ass


hahahaahaha

[Sketchy_Racer]

Well,

Good luck!

[Ivan]

luck, I dont believe in it I believe everything happens as time goes

[Sketchy_Racer]

Well, if you dont believe in luck,

Your probably not gonna beat me ;)

[Ivan]

When you own a bike come back to me and then tell me hahaha

[Sketchy_Racer]

I dont need a bike to beat you.

[Expert]

Hey Ivan,
If you want to be really cautious and not irreversibly mess with the port timing take the ax base gasket and copy it onto a piece of aluminium plate say 2mm thick and put that under the barrel where the gasket would be.
Get some one to skim the same amount off the head to maintain the compression ratio( or a little bit more, for more compression, it's not hard to work out how much)
Put the barrel back on the engine with the piston installed and at bdc scratch (lightly) or mark a line on top of the piston under the ports then remove the barrel and file down to these marks so they are flush with the top of the piston at bdc, remember to lightly chamfer the edges of the ports top and bottom to make the rings not catch and last longer.
This raises all the ports together and increases the port area which makes the engine rev harder and is the most fool proof way to tune a two stroke without getting into magical port timing formulas which usually end up making something unridable.

[Ivan]

Hey Expert thatis the most simple way I have heard of tuning a 2 stroke,

Thanks for that I might have to try that out.



I am trying out testing a different head one of a tf100
it has a bigger squish in it will be worth trying to start tommorow,
I spentall afternoon in the ports again this time the dremal was with a polishing tip on it and polished every port ultra smooth and almost a mirror finish to give as much of a smooth flow as possible that has to be worth at least one horsepower:scooter:

[Ivan]

I dont need a bike to beat myself.

Dont tell us your personal issues this is about bikes mate:dodge:

[k14]

that has to be worth at least one horsepower:scooter:So does that now mean a total of 2hp?

[Ivan]

nah 49 im beating yuor buckets by 1 hp

[Ivan]

OK i just test started it in the drive I cant really get a good feel for what the engine is like without actually riding it properly I might go for a cruise down a nice stretchof road to do that and take both heads and see what the difference is I did notice from startign it that it doesnt want to idle any more and you have to keep giving it a fair bit of revs to get any response from it,

Its not like most two strokes I have ridden Im talking about buckets here which when you twist the throttle it is like BRING this is BRRAAAHHHH BRING


Might be jetting as well


The TF also has a big head gasket on it which I am going to remove and run my ultra thin ax one so the compression is there and get the head skimmed down from my uncle who is an engineer,

Well I cant really tell you what the porting has done from starting it in the drive and I dont want to keep startign it in the drive and clog the ports either I want to properly ride it flat tack and see what it does.

Tonight I am getting my new chamber welded to it as well which is off aYZ/RM/KX 80 dont know which one


I also wanted to add a smaller fly wheel for less weight and more throttle response but I rememberthere was something wrong with the taper on the crank

O well we nearly hita 1000 posts and I dont want to fill the last ones up myself someone else can

[Ivan]

Heres some pics of my bike:shutup:

[Buddha#81]

A pile of parts just like all the others we have been shown. You must have a shed like a bike wreakers.