Canterbury: Cruisy Night Rides [Archive] - Page 5

cooneyr

6th December 2007, 07:55

Also did anyone else notice that in quite a few places (coming down off the sumit road especially from memory) that there was lots of tar comming through. Is there anyone you can complain to about this, ideally someone who will listen, and do something about it.

The Chch city council is the road controlling authority for the the area. Not a good chance of getting anything done about it though. Remember that there are no certainties with road condition so ride to the conditions. One day you may find gravel etc on the road - this has the potential to make the bled bitumen (what its called when the bitumen (haven't used tar for years) comes to the surface) easy to ride.

I think I'll have to drag myself along to one of these rides to keep TA's DR company and get some good oil on road riding.

Cheers R

cruza

6th December 2007, 08:00

Yep good ride tonight, Not a bad place on a nice evening for a beer. Was tail end charlie on the way home for a while, saw a couple of mid corner "freezes" and a near miss with armco. Speed comes with time -ride within your ability, if the dude in front is going to fast , who cares.......Not cool picking bikes out of ditches.

yea it was a great ride, nearly killed myself on the way back, but thats half the fun!
Hope we get this good turnout every week during the christmas break.

:shutup: no its not half the fun ,a good fun ride is safe and coming home upright. speed comes with time.

phoenixgtr

6th December 2007, 08:57

Making major errors while riding is not something to joke about. One day one of those errors will be too major. You need to think about why you're making mistakes and why you're running wide. Maybe you're out riding you're abilities at this stage. Theres no need to speed. Everyone that comes on these rides know that it's meant to be a cruisy ride. Noone is going to pressure you to go faster and if they want to go faster then they can pass you.

Don't worry about going fast. Concentrate on your lines and riding smoothly. With smoothness and ideal lines comes speed.

cooneyr

6th December 2007, 09:21

And here my new biker friends is the lesson for you all.

You start off slow and when you get quicker and cocky you start to push youir luck. (before you are ready)

And if unlucky it can and will turn to shit fast..........

Making major errors while riding is not something to joke about. One day one of those errors will be too major......

Many of you probably don't know me but hopefully this post adds something to this thread for you to think about.

I am one of the people that Lemans talks of. I got my full in Nov 06 and got meself a DR650. I did a bit of adventure riding with Transalper and others on this site. Come Good Friday (6th April) this year I was heading through the Rainbow with Transalper and Plug and having a blast riding faster through there than I have ever done before (been through about 4 times on the bike by that stage). I had the key for a locked gate and after opening it the others rode on leaving me to lock the gate.

I locked it and then pushed it too hard trying to catch up. I ended up in a ditch having gone over the handle bars. Long story short I broke my C1 vertebra among other things which, is fatal or if you are lucky like me then you are OKish - no in between i.e. paralyzed. I was in a neck brace for 6 weeks. I still feel things grind and the occasional pinched muscle.

Simply I got to cocky and pushed things to hard and paid the price. Ride the pace you are comfortable with. If you try to keep up or show of there is a good chance you will stack it and the price of stacking is not worth it.

Nuf said.

Cheers R

Mikkel

6th December 2007, 09:23

Lovely night for it guys. Sounds like you had a good time! :niceone:

Was it you guys coming up to the Lyttleton tunnel roundabout just around 8:50 pm? I heard a lot of bikes coming through when we sat on the boat having a beer and yarn after the race last night.

Anyway, it looks as if I might rejoin you guys again in 2 weeks time - something about the boat races being off over Christmas or something like it.

In the meantime - do listen to D and the other old timers, and try your VERY best to stay alive.
Binning is bad... mkay! and headbutting the bullbars on a 4WD coming downhill by poking your head over the line is going to hurt!

Transalper

6th December 2007, 10:16

...
Bloody Transalper:spanking:winding up Casualty bout being slower than his mum!!!put him in front Governers - Lyttleton and he had the edge on me!!

See ya son:bye::bye:

Still a few spots where I can hold my own:nya::whistle: actually my intent was to have him pop in front of you but still be behind me, not to blast off in to the distance out on your own. How many weeks has he been on the road again?

helenoftroy

6th December 2007, 10:51

:whistle: actually my intent was to have him pop in front of you but still be behind me, not to blast off in to the distance out on your own. How many weeks has he been on the road again?

Hes only had the bike for maybe 5-6 wks and he was just a wee way ahead

I'm really pleased with how hes going so far,but yeah I really want him to follow you guys too

Next week(if your there??).....:niceone:

JMemonic

6th December 2007, 11:10

Although I personally dislike that section of the summit road I thoroughly enjoyed the ride, it was a great turn out.

I will stay quite about the Fobin's admission of a near bin enough has been said here already.

Karla you did well and comments were made both here and to you personally to this effect, one thing I will add is at no point did you attempt out ride you knowledge and ability's, this is a good thing to see :yes:.

Thanks to all who came, I think we got the directions sorted well at the start, it was nice to come down Gebbies and see everyone waiting at the Weatsheath. I suspect the poor folks a Godley house were a tad shocked to see so many of us turn up.:gob:

I will miss next week due to work so you wont have to put up with my loud voice at the start, but in the interests of having a good, safe ride would someone be kind enough to help Pheonixgtr give out the directions, he really does not have a loud enough voice.:mega:

phoenixgtr

6th December 2007, 13:19

I will miss next week due to work so you wont have to put up with my loud voice at the start, but in the interests of having a good, safe ride would someone be kind enough to help Pheonixgtr give out the directions, he really does not have a loud enough voice.:mega:

Thanks mate

RIGHT EVERYONE...HELLOO!!!

(a few people look my way and then look away)

"Mumble mumble God damn it mumble"

imdying

6th December 2007, 16:29

Use the horn on your bike... 3 or 4 looong beeps. If you do that every week, pretty soon the group will cotton on to what it signifies :)

Deviant Esq

6th December 2007, 17:14

Although I personally dislike that section of the summit road I thoroughly enjoyed the ride...
Not a big fan of that section of road myself. If it was a bit wider and had a much better surface it'd be so much fun, but the fact is it's simply a goat track - rough, bumpy, off camber, gravel everywhere, narrow, blind corners everywhere... not to mention cages coming the other way on the wrong bloody side of the road!! :angry2:

:calm:

I had a good evening. Nice fun ride on the way home too - cheers Phoenix :niceone:

laRIKin

6th December 2007, 17:42

Dave-

6th December 2007, 17:52

what worries me is the skid marks on the road.....how more boy racers arent killed around there amazes me...

Mikkel

6th December 2007, 18:30

what worries me is the skid marks on the road.....how more boy racers arent killed around there amazes me...

Heheh reminds me... If you're going from Sign of the Kiwi/Dyer's Pass along the Summit Road to Mt. Pleasant Road - on the righthander just before you come to Mt. Pleasant Rd. there are currently a couple of markings on the road indicating the wheel tracks of a car that went over the side! ...and if you look into the paddock you can see where the car landed and continued a bit.

But yeah, I think that the Summit Road is a nice road as well. You just have to be very very careful since there can be cyclists, runners, sheep, sunday drivers, stock effluent and gravel around every corner.

dangerous

6th December 2007, 18:40

miSTa

6th December 2007, 18:50

Well I like the Summit Rd.

But ride it to fast and it will bite and bite hard.

As a road it can be a challenge and challengers are good as they teach you to ride better and to the conditions.

If you only ride on good wide smooth fast roads, that's all you will be able to ride.
+1 - its a road to be enjoyed for what it is, i.e. a road offering magnificent views of the Canterbury Plains and Banks Peninsula, nothing more in IMHO

I know I've said nothing on this thread and really after 68 pages of posts there's still nothing to get too excited about and nothing to entice me a Wednesday night ride. That is because of first hand reports and the posts in this thread, I may sooner rather than later, be helping someone pulling their bike out of ditch - that is not me. I'm not a perfect rider but I must be doing something right as I'm still here 26 years later...

onearmedbandit

6th December 2007, 19:25

Na mate nothing wrong with the tar, get used to it...

Tell that to my GSXR that stepped out on me in 2nd gear at about 100km/h over the Akaroa hill.

Mikkel

6th December 2007, 20:31

I know I've said nothing on this thread and really after 68 pages of posts there's still nothing to get too excited about and nothing to entice me a Wednesday night ride. That is because of first hand reports and the posts in this thread, I may sooner rather than later, be helping someone pulling their bike out of ditch - that is not me. I'm not a perfect rider but I must be doing something right as I'm still here 26 years later...

Good thing then, that some of the other experienced people on-site are willing to show up and give some pointers to us newbies. Considering the lack of rider training programs this is one of the few ways we can learn in other ways than the hard way.

But I can't blame you for not wanting to get involved when people bins it, I never have been and hope I never will. I would, however, be rather affected if someone I had met - and noted rode dangerously but hadn't pointed it out to - was to make the headlines.

And of course you're not a perfect rider - noone is. I do however hope that there will be someone around to help you drag the ducati out if you should ever be so unlucky...

phoenixgtr

6th December 2007, 20:41

I had a good evening. Nice fun ride on the way home too - cheers Phoenix :niceone:

Yeah, I just really wanted to go over Evans. That was actually my favourite part of the whole ride.

As for summit rd, yes it's narrow and bumpy, but Lemans is right. If you ride the easy roads al the time you're not going to learn any thing. It's not a road to race on. That doesn't mean you can't enjoy it. I didn't exactly enjoy it last night though. I hit a nice gravel patch at the start which shifted my rear around a bit. That threw me off for a while and it took me a bit to get back in the rhythm . Shit happens

miSTa

6th December 2007, 20:45

Good thing then, that some of the other experienced people on-site are willing to show up and give some pointers to us newbies. Considering the lack of rider training programs this is one of the few ways we can learn in other ways than the hard way.
Silly me, I didn't realise it was my responsibility to train every new rider. Just goes to show you never know everything. :scooter:

Dave-

6th December 2007, 20:52

when...and I say when....I'm an old cobber, riding for hundreds of years, I will be going on these rides for the reasons mr sensible has pointed out.

I understand what it must be like for you more experienced riders not wanting to have us along, but surely someone taught you? pulled you or your mate out of a ditch? watched in horror? gave you a flick around the ear, or even seen a thing or 2.

and dont think this is some sort of sick bravado, I dont want to do it, but i'll do it because someone did it for me, and those who I do it for will do it for someone else, and a large chunk of the reason I'll have the oppotunity to do this is as stated someone once did it for me.

Ghost_Bullet

6th December 2007, 21:10

Silly me, I didn't realise it was my responsibility to train every new rider. Just goes to show you never know everything. :scooter:

Fuk you did not even offer to tarin me? Mind you, you did help confirm that I needed noise, and that it should not be to offensive like yours!!!!! :dodge:

miSTa

6th December 2007, 21:16

dangerous

6th December 2007, 21:18

Tell that to my GSXR that stepped out on me in 2nd gear at about 100km/h over the Akaroa hill.
big differance between the thour and a 150 tho...

Sparrow_1982

6th December 2007, 21:36

Dave-

6th December 2007, 21:37

IMHO having some one show you how its done is not the answer, you have to work out for yourself what your comfortable with and what your not, what you can do and what you can't do. If you can't do something why not? What can you do to find out?

Simply following someone else is going to teach you fuck all - the lines they pick are what works for them. That is to say they may not work for you, in fact they may get in to something you can not deal with. What works for you?

I would recommend this book: http://www.amazon.com/Sport-Riding-Techniques-Develop-Confidence/dp/1893618072 but at the end of the day you need to be able to analyse your own riding.

How do you want to ride?

further proof of my point.

if you didn't learn by example then the concept of it will seem impossible and stupid to you, but by your own opinion this shouldn't be an incorrect way to learn when there is no clearly defined way to ride.

myself I learn by example then modify it logically to suit myself then apply it in as controlled condition as I can get and find my own style.

I usually learn by explorative learning, asking "what happens if I do this?" it works for photoshop, maya, 3d studio max and after effects, but i wouldn't dare apply it to motorcycling, someone else might though and have great success with it.

sometimes companionship will allow you to learn, not because you're learning from the more experienced rider, but simply because they're there you'll just learn...

my intention would be to teach like dangerous but without the grumpy old man syndrome.

Mikkel

6th December 2007, 21:38

Silly me, I didn't realise it was my responsibility to train every new rider. Just goes to show you never know everything. :scooter:

I didn't at any time imply it was yours - or indeed anyones - responsibility. I just said that we are grateful that there are some who are willing to offer a perspective achieved through years of experience riding on the road.

But you are of course right - we have to learn it for ourselves. However, we might learn faster if we are given constructive feedback. I've found that the pointers I've received from experienced riders may not have sunk in right then and there but has helped to encourage defensive riding until it did indeed sink in a week or three later. ;)

I hope you won't take this the wrong way - but I believe that learning on the road today is quite different from 26 years ago. The traffic density is higher, the bikes are faster and there's more road rage going round.

Dave-

6th December 2007, 21:39

hey guys i put some photo's up of the scene and my bike if ur interested, was kinda eerie goin back there, haha, could still see the oil and blood stains on the road, alot of the scrap marks had washed away in the rain the other night tho which was a bit dissappointing,
http://www.bebo.com/PhotoAlbum.jsp?MemberId=4762420030&PhotoNbr=1&PhotoAlbumId=6251447238

argh, it's a shame to see you and your bike like that dude, I admired that bike...but not your knee...although I'm sure it's a fine knee....but not at the moment...

Mikkel

6th December 2007, 21:42

hey guys i put some photo's up of the scene and my bike if ur interested, was kinda eerie goin back there, haha, could still see the oil and blood stains on the road, alot of the scrap marks had washed away in the rain the other night tho which was a bit dissappointing,
http://www.bebo.com/PhotoAlbum.jsp?MemberId=4762420030&PhotoNbr=1&PhotoAlbumId=6251447238

That'll be a really really nice scar later ;) Scars >> tatoos!

And the bike doesn't look that bad! A bit of ducttape and she'll be right mate. :laugh:

dangerous

6th December 2007, 21:44

hey guys i put some photo's up of the scene and my bike if ur interested, was kinda eerie goin back there, haha, could still see the oil and blood stains on the road, alot of the scrap marks had washed away in the rain the other night tho which was a bit dissappointing,
http://www.bebo.com/PhotoAlbum.jsp?MemberId=4762420030&PhotoNbr=1&PhotoAlbumId=6251447238

look... man im fucked if I can work out what you cocked up aye?

Sparrow_1982

6th December 2007, 21:46

argh, it's a shame to see you and your bike like that dude, I admired that bike...but not your knee...although I'm sure it's a fine knee....but not at the moment...

yeah man, i hate myself. everytime i go out into the garage and see that bike in that condition... but yeah haha.... as for my knee, i got told it could take upto a year to get proper movement back in it, even then i may still have a limp, my elbow is gonna be a problem to, doc said they removed alot of bone in the joint that had fragmentated so i wont be able to fully extend elbow no more either, i guess it's just a perminent reminder tho to take it easy from now on,

Sparrow_1982

6th December 2007, 21:48

look... man im fucked if I can work out what you cocked up aye?

i can tell u, i cocked up with my speed, i was going way too fast, i had a bad mornin and was in one of those moods that i shouldnt have been on a bike in.... which is why i regret it soo much,

Sparrow_1982

6th December 2007, 21:50

That'll be a really really nice scar later ;) Scars >> tatoos!

And the bike doesn't look that bad! A bit of ducttape and she'll be right mate. :laugh:

haha, yeah i wish buddy, the frame is snapped, motor is split open and seized, and i dont think duct tape would hold the foot peg and gearlever in place :lol:

Foobin

6th December 2007, 22:07

I will stay quite about the Fobin's admission of a near bin enough has been said here already.

I wasn't that close to falling off was I ? only had the back wheel fish tail around for a split second lol :)

Anyway i was just pushing my boundaries a bit, maybe made a few people uncomfortable, my apologies for that, but im sure everyone has been through the stage.

So yes its cool to point out what shouldn't be done, but there is no need to take everything i say literately, such as "i nearly killed myself on the way back".

Bren_chch

6th December 2007, 22:18

In the meantime - do listen to D and the other old timers

ahhhhhh hahahaha OLD TIMER!!! :Oops:

Mikkel

6th December 2007, 22:30

I wasn't that close to falling off was I ? only had the back wheel fish tail around for a split second lol :)

Anyway i was just pushing my boundaries a bit, maybe made a few people uncomfortable, my apologies for that, but im sure everyone has been through the stage.

So yes its cool to point out what shouldn't be done, but there is no need to take everything i say literately, such as "i nearly killed myself on the way back".

Foobin, you might wanna consider that a significant number of experienced riders have expressed concern about the Wednesday Cruisy Night rides. And I can attest that they are not alway THAT cruisy as well. In that light you might wanna reconsider making light of such statements! As for my opinion, if that matters at all, when riding with a large group is not the time to push your boundaries... You can do that on well known empty roads with a couple of mates or take it to the track.

ahhhhhh hahahaha OLD TIMER!!! :Oops:

Anyone who's been riding for more than a year is an old timer in my book ;) And no no - there fact that it rhymes with alzheimer is not intentional.
See you tomorrow! :niceone:

Foobin

6th December 2007, 23:00

Foobin, you might wanna consider that a significant number of experienced riders have expressed concern about the Wednesday Cruisy Night rides. And I can attest that they are not alway THAT cruisy as well. In that light you might wanna reconsider making light of such statements! As for my opinion, if that matters at all, when riding with a large group is not the time to push your boundaries... You can do that on well known empty roads with a couple of mates or take it to the track.

Yea, i didn't exactly be all that considerate with the other people on the road on Wednesday night. I was pushing towards my limits and it could have gone bad, sorry for that, got the blood lust lol. But hey, everyone makes mistakes and I'll learn from this one.

dangerous

7th December 2007, 05:03

yeah man, i hate myself. everytime i go out into the garage and see that bike in that condition... but yeah haha.... as for my knee, i got told it could take upto a year to get proper movement back in it, even then i may still have a limp, my elbow is gonna be a problem to, doc said they removed alot of bone in the joint that had fragmentated so i wont be able to fully extend elbow no more either, i guess it's just a perminent reminder tho to take it easy from now on,
Yeah Iv been harping on, but thats only cos I would sooner come across as a wanker than watch this sorta thing happen, with any luck some will take in what happened to you and the finel result.

haha, yeah i wish buddy, the frame is snapped, motor is split open and seized, and i dont think duct tape would hold the foot peg and gearlever in place :lol:

are you claiming insurance?
If not Im sure it can be straightened up... 4 strokes dont just seize, something may have taken a knock tho and locked up like the gearbox.

everyone makes mistakes and I'll learn from this one. :Punk:

ahhhhhh hahahaha OLD TIMER!!! :Oops:
who pulled your chain?

Transalper

7th December 2007, 05:29

Summit Rd thoughts and some...
I think the Summit Rd is a test of character and patients as much as actual riding skill.
It is indeed hard to make smooth lines in the places where the road is narrow and has either a rock wall or trees on each side restricting the view ahead. I find myself riding the middle of my lane, staying off the left in case of cyclists or joggers etc and staying away from the white line in case of oncoming traffic too.
I find I can open up on that road a little more closer to Gebbies when the road moves to the Bays side of the hill, or back the other way on the Sumner side of Dyers Pass primarily because you get a better look at some of the corners where the land is more barren. Those parts of the road are still too tight and narrow for me to get carried away with the gas, but at least you get to set up for a few of the corners then.
Here's a bit of a laugh, if you imagine that whole road as it would have been before they ever sealed it then you'd start to imagine the sort of thing I like to seek out and explore regularly.

The crossing the center line topic...
Now days I too consider the head over the white line (or worse the bike over the white line) to be a bit of a bad habit, and indeed a bit of a lazy way to ride. For me, it was a bad habit I picked up from others I rode with when I was learning.
I eventually noted that I had become so accustom to going faster and using the whole road when I could that it caused me to miss judge and thus feck up the same and similar corners when traffic was actually present.
Now days I mostly try not to make a curvy road too straight and feel I've been forced to cheat if I've had to cross the white line at any time through either too much speed and/or misjudging the apex.

Next week...
I hear murmurings by a few wanting another crack at Duvauchelle.... can we... can we... aye, huh, can we?

JMemonic

7th December 2007, 06:02

laRIKin

7th December 2007, 06:22

But I can't blame you for not wanting to get involved when people bins it, I never have been and hope I never will.

You will and then you will understand.
Holding a mates hand, that he is crushing as he is in so much pain.
And you and other mates are scared that he is going to die.

I do however hope that there will be someone around to help you drag the ducati out if you should ever be so unlucky...

He will as he does not ride alone and rides with in him self.
So it will be a accident.

Silly me, I didn't realise it was my responsibility to train every new rider. Just goes to show you never know everything. :scooter:

It's not I never rode with older riders, just mates.
The trouble is all you younger people do not think, if this goes wrong what will happen.

look... man im fucked if I can work out what you cocked up aye?

i can tell u, i cocked up with my speed, i was going way too fast, i had a bad mornin and was in one of those moods that i shouldnt have been on a bike in.... which is why i regret it soo much,

Once again trying to go to fast to soon.
Sorry Sparrow. not wanting to pick on you.
You have now learnt the hard way and hoping other will learn by your mistake now.

I wasn't that close to falling off was I ? only had the back wheel fish tail around for a split second lol :)

Sorry that is a near crash, as you lost control.
See you in Hospital if you do not learn by this.

Anyway i was just pushing my boundaries a bit, maybe made a few people uncomfortable, my apologies for that, but im sure everyone has been through the stage.

So yes its cool to point out what shouldn't be done, but there is no need to take everything i say literately, such as "i nearly killed myself on the way back".

Still like the idea of Hospital food?
Think.
What are you doing wrong and do not put other riders out, so they have to go to Hospital to visit you.
OR to go to your funeral.

Yea, i didn't exactly be all that considerate with the other people on the road on Wednesday night. I was pushing towards my limits and it could have gone bad, sorry for that, got the blood lust lol. But hey, everyone makes mistakes and I'll learn from this one.

Good to read.
Top of the class, there is hope for you after all.

Yeah Iv been harping on, but thats only cos I would sooner come across as a wanker than watch this sorta thing happen,

Well I think I have now joined the club by typing this.
And trust me, others are thinking this.

Summit Rd thoughts and some...
I think the Summit Rd is a test of character and patients as much as actual riding skill.

You are right it is called Control.

I think that I have probable said to much.
But FUCK it. I hate going to biker funeral.

You will and then you will understand.
Holding a mates hand, that he is crushing as he is in so much pain.
And you and other mates are scared that he is going to die.

Deviant Esq

7th December 2007, 06:43

I know I've said nothing on this thread and really after 68 pages of posts there's still nothing to get too excited about and nothing to entice me a Wednesday night ride. That is because of first hand reports and the posts in this thread, I may sooner rather than later, be helping someone pulling their bike out of ditch - that is not me. I'm not a perfect rider but I must be doing something right as I'm still here 26 years later...
Dispite the many Wednesday Night Rides we've had so far noone's binned. We had nearly 40 bikes turn up, but most still rode at their own pace without trying silly things to keep up, we all made it in one piece and happy, and all made it back again, as we have every week. I think there's been one low speed gravel parking lot spill, but apart from that, nada.

So, you can make your reasoning all you like, but until you've been along a couple of times to see what it's like you're in no position to knock it. Sounds to me like you're just being negative and grumpy for the sake of it. Look at it this way - if they're going to bin anyway, isn't it better to have known them and ridden with them first?

If you're going to be a big negative grump, piss off, don't come. I won't miss that negativity.

alley cat

7th December 2007, 06:48

karla

7th December 2007, 07:30

It just occured to me while housecleaning how reassuring it is to read and see that everyone in this group cares about each other. We all have different ways of showing it but at the end of the day no one wants to see anyone get hurt. There wouldn't be group otherwise - and being the completely self-centered woman that I am that would be a BAD thing. Riding in isolation is fun, but riding with others teaches me all sorts of things I can't learn by myself. For a beginner it'a all about having to be humble and admit to knowing just about nothing ... it's all good hey! Hope everyone has an awesome weekend, and travels safely.

Rashika

7th December 2007, 08:06

and you are doing pretty good Karla :yes:
Just carry on the way you are and (barring acts of God etc) you'll be fine :scooter:

Sparrow_1982

7th December 2007, 09:29

Yeah Iv been harping on, but thats only cos I would sooner come across as a wanker than watch this sorta thing happen, with any luck some will take in what happened to you and the finel result.
are you claiming insurance?
If not Im sure it can be straightened up... 4 strokes dont just seize, something may have taken a knock tho and locked up like the gearbox.

nah man i don't mind eceryone talkin about it and askin questions, i would rather everyone know for their own experience too, and also just so i can get the story straight, i hate being judged by people, as soon as they here u crashed ur bike they class u as a incompetent rider or something, everyone has a accidents, ur a fool to think that u wont ever crash..... u gotta have it set in ur mind every tome u get on ur bike, it's not a case of if ur gonna crash but when.... that way u might be thinking straight and carefully everytime u get on ur bike, (this isnt aimed at u but just what i think) i didnt thnk of myself as awesome rider, but for those who had riden with me in the past would know i was a pretty competent rider, just that day i let mood effect my actions. as for the bike motor it has taken a good knock, the crack case has almost ripped off the motor, well it is split almost the entire way around so something going on internally to lock it up, yeah i am claiming insurance

Sparrow_1982

7th December 2007, 09:38

Dont worry, chicks dig scars:love:

:laugh: i hope so...

Sparrow_1982

7th December 2007, 09:43

Once again trying to go to fast to soon.
Sorry Sparrow. not wanting to pick on you.
You have now learnt the hard way and hoping other will learn by your mistake now.

haha no worries Rik, I remember u saying that to me on the ride we did a wee while back, to that to take it easy and with time speed will come with experience, i wish i had only kept that in mind....

karla

7th December 2007, 12:44

nah man i don't mind eceryone talkin about it and askin questions

I'd like to know how you survived ~ it's pretty cool to be able to walk away from a crash. I'm not looking forward to my first fall. :ride:

phoenixgtr

7th December 2007, 13:32

Next week...
I hear murmurings by a few wanting another crack at Duvauchelle.... can we... can we... aye, huh, can we?

You can do whatever you like. Looks like I'm not going to make it next week. I've got a friend coming down from Palmy that night and moving to Aus so this will be my last chance to see her before she goes. So have fun. I'm going to miss a couple of weeks over xmas too - 26/12 & 9/1. Oh well...can't be there every week.

BTW. BIG news!! I proposed to Liv this morning and she said yes. I thought that was a pretty good bday present for her!!

Dave-

7th December 2007, 14:16

BTW. BIG news!! I proposed to Liv this morning and she said yes. I thought that was a pretty good bday present for her!!

HOLY FUCK AWESOME!

PAAAARTY!

helenoftroy

7th December 2007, 16:18

Summit Rd thoughts and some...

Here's a bit of a laugh, if you imagine that whole road as it would have been before they ever sealed it then you'd start to imagine the sort of thing I like to seek out and explore regularly.
Next week...
I hear murmurings by a few wanting another crack at Duvauchelle.... can we... can we... aye, huh, can we?

:niceone:Dual purpose bikes make motorcycling twice the buzz :devil2:

And yes please -we didnt go to Duvauchelles other week.Casualty had only been as far as Gebbies till this arvo when we went over towards Akaroa

We had a great ride:scooter::scooter:

helenoftroy

7th December 2007, 16:21

BTW. BIG news!! I proposed to Liv this morning and she said yes. I thought that was a pretty good bday present for her!!

That is lovely news - congratulations !!!!!:love::love:

Oakie

7th December 2007, 16:52

BTW. BIG news!! I proposed to Liv this morning and she said yes. I thought that was a pretty good bday present for her!!

Outstanding. Good on you both!

dangerous

7th December 2007, 16:59

If you're going to be a big negative grump, piss off, don't come. I won't miss that negativity.
sorry but that brought on some rep for you... do you not get it when people are trying to help you... maybe you should piss off (sorry but they are your words) and come back after you have thought about how so many of us have tried to help you.

we all made it in one piece and happy,

Like fuck I am happy.. look at a few other riders on the road.. they are not happy either. :mad:

ur a fool to think that u wont ever crash..... u gotta have it set in ur mind every tome u get on ur bike, it's not a case of if ur gonna crash but when.... BAD move, I never plan on crashing, dosnt mean it wont happen sorry but a comment loike that makes you the fool... do you understand?

Deviant Esq

7th December 2007, 17:11

sorry but that brought on some rep for you... do you not get it when people are trying to help you... maybe you should piss off (sorry but they are your words) and come back after you have thought about how so many of us have tried to help you.
No idea where that came from. Never said anything about you or any of the people who've offered me help. Hell, the post wasn't even about me, nor was there anything in that post that was helpful, or directed at me. As far as I'm concerned if he's going to be a negative nay-sayer, that's fine, but that's no reason to rag on the Wednesday night ride.

Telling me to piss off eh? Whatever. You quite happily earned the rep right back. What the hell have you been smoking and who the fuck is trying to help just by saying "I don't want to pull bikes out of a ditch."? I don't think you've any idea what you're on about in this case, sorry pal.

Like fuck I am happy.. look at a few other riders on the road.. they are not happy either. :mad:
Oh, so that's my fault how? Don't like the ride, not happy with it? Simple - don't come, it's your choice mate. I'd ask you why you're not happy and why so many others aren't happy (if you don't like the ride why come, that's logic for you right there), but I suspect I know the reason why. And it's got nothing at all do to with me. So you can stand there on your soapbox all you like, but make some fucking sense first. Why blame me? Like I said, nothing to do with me what others do on their bikes.

dangerous

7th December 2007, 18:06

Telling me to piss off eh? Whatever.

Man... you do strugle to get it dont you.. it was you that told someone to piss off... as for the not happy comment christ sakes man... I wasent happy I was nearly pushed into the bushes, your relaxed "so no one arsed up" qoute is not good, go figger... so I could let loose with my AK47 and no one gets hurt and that would be ok, ie: eveyone is happy ???

Sparrow_1982

7th December 2007, 18:33

I'd like to know how you survived ~ it's pretty cool to be able to walk away from a crash. I'm not looking forward to my first fall. :ride:

haha i ask myself the same question everyday....how did i survive or even how did i get off so lightly, only minor injury's compared to what i should have got.... i shouldnt be here.

Sparrow_1982

7th December 2007, 18:38

BAD move, I never plan on crashing, dosnt mean it wont happen sorry but a comment loike that makes you the fool... do you understand?

i disgree with that, to think that u would ever crash is saying u think that everyone else that u are goind to be on the road that day with are all gonna be the world's best drivers... how do u know? how do u know that around the next bend some idiot isn't goiing to cut the corner and wipe u out?? to thin u will never crash is nieve. to think it may never be ur fault yeah ok.... but to think that u never going to be envolved aint the right way of thinkng, u need to plan ahead and think what if someone comes around that bend on the wrong side, or what if some one is stopped in the middle of that next bend?

JMemonic

7th December 2007, 18:54

BTW. BIG news!! I proposed to Liv this morning and she said yes. I thought that was a pretty good bday present for her!!

Well done and congrats to you both, btw happy birthday Liv

Sparrow_1982

7th December 2007, 18:59

BTW. BIG news!! I proposed to Liv this morning and she said yes. I thought that was a pretty good bday present for her!!

Congrates and best wishes to u and liv both :niceone:

laRIKin

7th December 2007, 19:10

everyone has a accidents, ur a fool to think that u wont ever crash..... u gotta have it set in ur mind every tome u get on ur bike, it's not a case of if ur gonna crash but when.... that way u might be thinking straight and carefully everytime u get on ur bike,

Think that a better way to think about it is.

What can I do to limit the chances of a crash that is mine or someone else's fault. (or the bike's, if it is need of repair)

And what can I do to get myself out of any potential trouble.

The important thing is it is down to YOU.
As no one else can do it.

You must protect yourself at all times, as no one else can.

fireliv

7th December 2007, 19:49

HOLY FUCK AWESOME!

PAAAARTY!

That is lovely news - congratulations !!!!!:love::love:

Outstanding. Good on you both!

Well done and congrats to you both, btw happy birthday Liv

Congrates and best wishes to u and liv both :niceone:

Thanks Everyone!!!!!!!
Was a very nice birthday surprise and the ring is stunning, how could I resist a guy with such taste........ sometimes the quiet ones are the ones to watch:shifty:

Deviant Esq

7th December 2007, 20:50

Man... you do strugle to get it dont you.. it was you that told someone to piss off... as for the not happy comment christ sakes man... I wasent happy I was nearly pushed into the bushes, your relaxed "so no one arsed up" qoute is not good, go figger... so I could let loose with my AK47 and no one gets hurt and that would be ok, ie: eveyone is happy ???
Bud, for starters, let me just say that I totally agree with what you're saying, with regards to riders stepping out of their comfort zones on this ride, and pushing too hard - it really isn't on. It's dangerous and foolish - I really don't want to have to pull someone out of the bushes either, I don't want to see anyone hurt, anyone hurt anyone else, or get themselves killed. Totally honestly (you may not see it), I'm here for a long time and not just a good time. I don't really like riding outside my comfort levels, because I don't want to have an accident and get hurt or die... so I try my damnedest to have a good time but to be sensible and not overstep the mark. It's guys like you who help keep this message visable for those who don't think about it as much as they really should.

All I'm saying is that I can't understand how you seem to like to blame me specifically for some of the things that go on on the ride. Sure, they're not good, but what good is it having a go at me over it? I also can't understand why you seem to think I'm kicking dirt at people offering me help - far from it, that'd be the last thing I'd want to do. I appreciate any help and assistance offered, and would like to offer some to new riders as well, stuff that I myself have learned. Sure, maybe I was a bit harsh with Mr. S, but he was being a bit of a grumpy poos... you and him could relate well! :eek:

I didn't know you were nearly pushed into the bushes. When was that?
Maybe you shouldn't wheelie so much at the top of Gebbies Pass? That one almost wound up in the hillside (nice wheelie though, and glad you only did it when there was no silly buggers watching who'd try it on too and fail)! :bleh:

Maybe we should just sit down over a beer and nut out what I'm doing that gets you so pissed off - I'd like to know just so I can do it more :shifty:

;)

fireliv

7th December 2007, 20:59

The way I see it, if someone doesnt want to come on a ride, for whatever reasons, so be it. Each to there own. Just dont post. Mr S has not been on a ride, and does not wish to participate thats fine- he should have just not bothered posting cos we are not interested in people who just step in to make trouble for troubles sake.
D- at least you come. We know who you are, so your opinions mean a lot. You have the right to come down hard on riders as you see fit-because you were there, not because you are saying shit because you feel you have to make a point.

Hoped to make the next ride but as for reasons stated by phoenix wont be able to! I enjoyed the ride over Akaroa way last time so enjoy! Dont forget to state ure regroup points!

Rashika

7th December 2007, 21:01

Think that a better way to think about it is.

What can I do to limit the chances of a crash that is mine or someone else's fault. (or the bike's, if it is need of repair)

And what can I do to get myself out of any potential trouble.

The important thing is it is down to YOU.
As no one else can do it.

You must protect yourself at all times, as no one else can.

yeah this sums it up nicely.

I for one dont go out in anticipation of crashing, BUT I do take all the precautions I can to avoid getting myself into a situation that may lead to that (or wear clothes that will help if it does happen)... by my own or others fuckups. But that is only common sense.

We are vulnerable on bikes, so the odd stray over the centre line may not seem like much to a beginner, but if that kinda attitude about seemingly minor things continues as you get more skilled you will become blaise about it until you have a close call (or worse), and you wont really even consider it a problem.

I guess everytime I am going round a blind corner my brain is instinctively saying "what would happen if a car came round now on the wrong side of the road? What if a car is stopped just round the corner" All the stuff that I'm thinking of, most beginners prob aren't cos they have yet to experience some of the scary shit. Having said that it is actually kinda easy to become hohum to thinking that way esp on a long ride and you have to mentally kick yourself at times to wake up.

I dont wanna hit a cop car, or a campervan, so save my racing for the track (errrr well mostly anyway, I aint perfect!) ;)

Rashika

7th December 2007, 21:22

All I'm saying is that I can't understand how you seem to like to blame me specifically for some of the things that go on on the ride.

Sure, maybe I was a bit harsh with Mr. S, but he was being a bit of a grumpy poos... you and him could relate well! :eek:

Maybe we should just sit down over a beer and nut out what I'm doing that gets you so pissed off - I'd like to know just so I can do it more :shifty:

;)

hey DE, I dont think D was specifically getting at you... except for the bit at Mr S, prob a bit OTT but you know that so we're over it ;)

You do seem to take everything that D (in particular) says about people on the ride as specific digs at you and I dont think it is intended to be that way.
Sure you were one of the orig organisers and maybe feel some responsibilty for people on the rides, but you are merely a participant and everyone else has to take their own responsibilty for their actions.

The only thing I can see is that there is a bit of the "she'll be right" atittude happening in some of the younger riders (and you can see it in the comments on this thread) and I guess most of us hope it is mere bravado and in reality they actually are concerned about them doing something that might result in an accident.
Group riding is really the most dangerous riding we can do (the campervan acco says it all really), so seeing some in the group with a devil-may-care atittude can get you worried about whether you might get caught up in any mayhem.
Take what the grumps say with a grain of salt... listen, and think about what they say next time you cut a corner (and this is NOT aimed specifically at you DE!! :bleh:) but at those on the ride who know they were maybe a bit over that line more than once... .
...and besides it takes way more skill to NOT to cut corners than it does to cut em! Dont you wanna be known as skilled riders? :whistle:

Transalper

7th December 2007, 21:42

...and besides it takes way more skill to NOT to cut corners than it does to cut em! Dont you wanna be known as skilled riders? :whistle:Ohhh, I really like that comment.:first:

Righto, have decided that weather permitting I am going to have tea at Duvauchelle on Wednesday so that's where I'll be going reguardless of what others decide, be nice to see the group head there again too but most you seem so obsessed with other stuff to say where you want to go.
I'd be tempted to go over Dyers to Governers,round to and over Gebbies, regroup at Little River to check on the followers and finish at the Duvauchelle Hotel.
Alternative could be out through Halswell, Old Tai Tapu Rd and the Akaroa Highway, still regroup at Little River then on to the Duvauchelle Hotel.

Several more have said they're keen (either here or on SBF),
so see you at BK.

Cheers
TA.

ps. Congrats to Phoenix and fireliv

Deviant Esq

7th December 2007, 21:47

I'd be tempted to go over Dyers to Governers,round to and over Gebbies, regroup at Little River to check on the followers and finish at the Duvauchelle Hotel.
Sounds good to me - I'll be there with bells on. Hopefully they'll drown out the rather loud bangs emitting from my exhaust recently!! :shutup:

Seriously though, the route sounds good to me, but then, I always enjoy Dyers Pass Road. It was great two weeks ago, only had to pass one car on the way up and I wasn't mucking around either :headbang:

Edit: Where are my manners?! Many congrats phoenix and fireliv (many happy returns)! Didn't see that one coming... but good on ya! When's the big day then? :cool:

Dave-

7th December 2007, 22:23

in regards to going over the white line here's what I posted over at another forum.

the way i see it, riding is a set of calculated risks.

no matter where you are on the road, the conditions, your ability, the rotation of the earth, you have a chance of being in a head on collision, at some times it's so close to 0 it can be rounded down, this is constant, if you're on the road, then you have a chance of being hit.

the only one who has the ability to exponentially increase this chance is yourself, you do this by crossing the center line.

the second highest, is a vehicle coming in the other direction which you have little or no control over (the road you choose?) however this will increase your chances by less than half.

now if you can see it's a clear straight bit up the hill for 200m so you decide to cut the corner....you're increasing your chances of having a head on, regardless of what you see, you're increasing your chances by a dramatic amount.

if you cross the line on a blind tight corner you're increasing it hugely, massively, to the point where you have to ask where your common sense has gone...

if you combine your own risk factor and the risk factor of the car coming the other way you get 1 or 100%, if you're lucky though the car coming the other way might also be driving dangerously in which you both cross into one anothers lanes...I'd buy a lotto ticket.

also at another location it has been decided that we're going back over to douchebagville or whatever at the next ride.

resistance is futile.

have a nice day.

JMemonic

7th December 2007, 22:37

Sounds good to me - I'll be there with bells on. Hopefully they'll drown out the rather loud bangs emitting from my exhaust recently!! :shutup:

Um yeah was going to ask you what is up with that, you get a nice flame out of the exhaust at the same time as well, almost like an intermittent misfire.

Deviant Esq

7th December 2007, 22:40

Um yeah was going to ask you what is up with that, you get a nice flame out of the exhaust at the same time as well, almost like an intermittent misfire.
Buggered if I know mate. All I know is that it won't do it while I'm riding it around town or commuting... it only seems to get going after maybe 20 minutes of working it harder up in the hills, once it's got really well heated up. Thing is that it never used to do it, only just started on the last Wednesday night ride. Dangerous thought it could be an air leak in the exhaust... anyone else know what it might be? I'm hoping it's not something too bad... the bike still runs great apart from the noise.

Paulus

7th December 2007, 23:31

All this talk of cutting over the white line takes me back to an incident last summer. A group of us were heading over to Akaroa when when came up behind an obvious novice on an R6. Friend in front slipped past him on the downhill into Robinsons Bay. As we got to the bottom of the hill (a pretty fast corner) I could see nothing coming and went to pass the R6. He drifted out over the centre line and right over to the other side of the road just as I was in the process of passing him carrying maybe 20kph more speed. I still don't actually know how I managed not to hit him but it was bloody close. Other friends following commented that they didn't know how I managed to miss him (luck I guess). I confronted the guy at Akaroa and he was totally oblivious of it! Not a smart thing to do by either of us and it is lucky that we both weren't killed. Be careful.

Mikkel

7th December 2007, 23:43

Yea, i didn't exactly be all that considerate with the other people on the road on Wednesday night. I was pushing towards my limits and it could have gone bad, sorry for that, got the blood lust lol. But hey, everyone makes mistakes and I'll learn from this one.

Pushing your limits - not on a group ride mate! Go find a nice piece of road and then practice pushing your limits there - alone or with a couple of mates who's in on it.
If you're confident you won't freak out getting passed *very* closely by a superbike travelling 100 km/h faster than you could ever hope to go on a learners bike I'd suggest going for an open training day at Ruapuna. It's good fun and you get to push your limits... (oh, and there's no ACC and no insurance cover unless you got special track insurance - so don't push too hard, mkay).

Glad to see you guys decided to bury the hatchet for now - I'm sure I wasn't the only one starting to develop a headache! ;)

As for sparrow's comment about thinking about crashing - DON'T!
Just as with target fixation - where you look is where you go - your mind can work in the same way. If you start thinking that you're going to crash instead of smoothly taking the corner that was just a bit tighter than you expected you're much more likely to freeze up and wipe out!
Relax and go with it. When you're on the bike focus on your riding and maintain a healthy safety margin.

That's my experience so far - admittedly it's only been 3 months so far but I still think it's valid!

Spuds1234

8th December 2007, 01:05

As for sparrow's comment about thinking about crashing - DON'T!
Just as with target fixation - where you look is where you go - your mind can work in the same way. If you start thinking that you're going to crash instead of smoothly taking the corner that was just a bit tighter than you expected you're much more likely to freeze up and wipe out!
Relax and go with it. When you're on the bike focus on your riding and maintain a healthy safety margin.

That's my experience so far - admittedly it's only been 3 months so far but I still think it's valid!

I would agree. Its like a self for filling prophecy.

I once got into the mindset that it was about time I had an accident (I worked it out at that time, I was averaging an accident per 14000km lol). I started to push the limits more and more, almost trying to temp fate.

Sure enough I crashed.

Now I go out thinking the opposite. I will not have an accident today. Its worked for the last 50000kms that Ive ridden. Sure I may have become a better and more experienced rider. But as soon as you set out to have an accident you can guarantee that you will have one.

dangerous

8th December 2007, 05:08

i disgree with that, to think that u would ever crash is saying u think that everyone else that u are goind to be on the road that day with are all gonna be the world's best drivers... how do u know? how do u know that around the next bend some idiot isn't goiing to cut the corner and wipe u out?? to thin u will never crash is nieve. to think it may never be ur fault yeah ok.... but to think that u never going to be envolved aint the right way of thinkng, u need to plan ahead and think what if someone comes around that bend on the wrong side, or what if some one is stopped in the middle of that next bend?

Its like this.. and it omes with time, which a lot of you younger ones strugle with.
Avoiding thes situations you listed is like this: riding to suit, riding the right lines, expect the unexpected corect bike set up, have a escap root planed... all this and experance will have you ready to avoid any situation, and with any luck... it will.

Mr S has not been on a ride, and does not wish to participate thats fine- he should have just not bothered posting cos we are not interested in people who just step in to make trouble for troubles sake.
thats the thing... MeS like me means well and once again settle and listen and just maybe, you may hear hat hes saying, all for your benifit.

All I'm saying is that I can't understand how you seem to like to blame me specifically for some of the things that go on on the ride.

Maybe we should just sit down over a beer and nut out what I'm doing that gets you so pissed off - I'd like to know just so I can do it more :shifty:

;)

I have never blamed you for anything... and this is were you get it all wrong, you take shit to heart, dont.

As long as you are paying... you not thinking before posting and forgetting who ya mates are, you have to be crewl to be kind... green rep this time.

Sparrow_1982

8th December 2007, 09:16

Its like this.. and it omes with time, which a lot of you younger ones strugle with.
Avoiding thes situations you listed is like this: riding to suit, riding the right lines, expect the unexpected corect bike set up, have a escap root planed... all this and experance will have you ready to avoid any situation, and with any luck... it will.

exactly that line of thinking is what i am talkin about, plannin to expect the unexpected and having escape routes..... u just justified exactly all my points i been trying to say and this is what i am meaning below Mikkel, i'm not talking about thinking of crashing when riding a bike yet the what if's and possible scenerios that could pop up while on the ride.

As for sparrow's comment about thinking about crashing - DON'T!
Just as with target fixation - where you look is where you go - your mind can work in the same way. If you start thinking that you're going to crash instead of smoothly taking the corner that was just a bit tighter than you expected you're much more likely to freeze up and wipe out!
Relax and go with it. When you're on the bike focus on your riding and maintain a healthy safety margin.

That's my experience so far - admittedly it's only been 3 months so far but I still think it's valid!

ur missing the point dude i not talkin about thinking of crashing amd lookin at where u going have a look at laRIKins comments he's onto what i talking about, ride to survive, but u need to take it in mind everytime u get on that bike that u need to take it easy today as u never know what is gonna happen.

fireliv

8th December 2007, 10:16

Ever checked out the Welly Wed ride- dont seam to have the issues that go on in here. They ride the rima with newbies, have minor incidents on occasions and no one bitches and moans about it for the next week. THey just enjoy the ride and each others company, helping out where they can. Thats what we want right?

Just a thought

fireliv

8th December 2007, 10:21

D- I have no idea who Mr S is- he could be the most fantastic rider in the world, or a complete idiot- I dont know. So why would I take what he has to say on board?
Maybe he has valid points, but until he comes along- or I get to meet him and see what kind of rider/person he is then its hard for me to see where he is coming from- and all I see is another person putting the ride down and causing trouble that we dont need, cos we seam the be able to do it ourselves.
I just want to ride, and learn to ride better. Enjoy some company with other riders. Is that to much ask?

Deviant Esq

8th December 2007, 10:29

There's only one person on here getting their knickers all knotted about the ride - who's actually been anyway. The rest of us are trying to answer criticism and not getting anywhere.

I've got no control over how anyone else rides... and TBH most of the speedy ones who zoom off will do it whether told on here by him (or anyone) or not - it's the "being in a group" thing, sets them off, they can't just cruise, they'll have to play. Half of them aren't on KB and prob won't see this anyway.

I only got pissed off because Mr S had a lot to say but never even been. If you've got nothing nice to say, why bother saying anything?

onearmedbandit

8th December 2007, 10:36

TBH, with the number of times I get to go out on my bike recently, any chance for a ride I'll be going for a decent blast, not just cruising. Turn up at the meet, have a chat or two, ride to destination, talk more.

Deviant Esq

9th December 2007, 15:33

green rep this time.
Funny, it looks very much like a 2nd red to me.

Telling me not to take things to heart? You could take your own advise. By saying "what the hell have you been smoking" I'm more referring to the fact that you've pulled something out of nowhere rather than any reference to any habits you may or may not have - I couldn't care less either way.

You're far more interested in abusing me than giving me any useful advice (it's fucking true too if you'd read your own posts from an objective point of view), and as such I have no more use for anything you may or may not post on KB. I've put up with your bullshit for quite long enough, and now I'm very pleased to say "welcome to ignore".

fireliv

9th December 2007, 16:13

Right now that thats over and done with can we please get this thread back on track as its has been very :Offtopic: recently.. I want to talk about riding. Did anyone do a good ride this weekend? Who went to the staging doo???

Phoenix and I spent a lot of time on the phone telling family and friends of our engagement so not much riding from us!

The Lone Rider

9th December 2007, 16:24

Who went to the staging doo???

Give a few, take a few.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=1307&day=2007-12-7&

And also..

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=62674

Rashika

9th December 2007, 16:41

Funny, it looks very much like a 2nd red to me.

Telling me not to take things to heart? You could take your own advise. By saying "what the hell have you been smoking" I'm more referring to the fact that you've pulled something out of nowhere rather than any reference to any habits you may or may not have - I couldn't care less either way.

You're far more interested in abusing me than giving me any useful advice (it's fucking true too if you'd read your own posts from an objective point of view), and as such I have no more use for anything you may or may not post on KB. I've put up with your bullshit for quite long enough, and now I'm very pleased to say "welcome to ignore".

oh fer fucks sake, give it a rest DE.
NO ONE has abused you... a bit of pisstaking yes, and you give it right back so live with it. If you think anything said has been abuse you haven't a clue of what abuse truely is. Abuse is the shit some mods have to put up with when people say they are gonna come and kill them and their families, cos they had to be moderated... in a forum?? fkn ridiculas.
This is the internet, people get het up over really stupid shit, yourself included. No-one can be objective cos we are all right.

You did go OTT with MrS, and yes he probably shoulda thought before posting, but people dont. All he based his assumptions on is what was written, and with the crap flying back and forth no wonder he thinks some of those he hasn't meet on this thread are complete tossers.

Give over with the "he did this so I'm gonna do that".
D has reasons for being a grump at times, hes seen crashes where other people have done stupid shit and resulted in others being carted off in helicopters to hospital, not a nice thing. Hopefully you and I dont have to ever see that.
Both of ya grow up, stop hasseling each other for no reason and just enjoy the rides.

And by the way the correct response to this post is "yes mum!" :whistle: :hug:

And yes Fireliv, the Staging post do was AB FAB!! :clap: :rockon:

stuff going on here
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=1333646#post1333646

But yeah it was an awesum day/night... something for some of the newbies to think about, coming along to a rally. Get a chance to talk to people rather than just say hello in passing.
Next big one is Woodstock in late Jan (near Hokitika). The glenorchy one has been canned, which is a shame cos we used to ride to Queenstown for the night, then onto the perfect rally site the next day, ah well, I think there is another near Gore being planned about the same time instead

cruza

9th December 2007, 17:50

Geez some sense at last,....thanks Mum!;) , Think some should had got there arse into gear and come to staging post , what a awesome bunch of people ,and a great saturday nite.

helenoftroy

10th December 2007, 11:25

Geez some sense at last,....thanks Mum!;) , Think some should had got there arse into gear and come to staging post , what a awesome bunch of people ,and a great saturday nite.

It was a great WEnd:2thumbsup

Someone went home and had to have a "nana nap" Young people these days....:bleh::devil2::bleh:

Deviant Esq

10th December 2007, 16:40

If you think anything said has been abuse...
Okay, alright, abuse maybe wasn't the right word for it. Perhaps swap in bait, antagonise, be belligerent with... it doesn't matter, it's totally beside the point. The red reps from him must've been figments of my imagination then, apparently. He's far more interested in baiting me, antagonising me, whatever, than actually having anything nice to say - and most of it hasn't got a lot to do with me anyway.

Basically, I've had enough of his constant baiting, call it whatever you like, so I'm making my KB life better, as well as others browsing this thread, by putting him on ignore. D'ya see what I mean, what I'm doing here? Don't get me wrong - in person he's fine, I don't have a problem with him and I don't think he has a problem with me. Bit of banter here and there but nothing major. But online he can't seem to resist sniping at me. So, unfortunately, for me and others 'ignore' is the best way to go. If he really doesn't want to be on ignore he can explain why not, but I don't think it'll really bother him either way.

You did go OTT with MrS, and yes he probably shoulda thought before posting, but people dont...
Yes, I did go a little OTT with Mr. S, and he's reacted in his own way to that, bless his soul. But that's a matter between me and him (if there is a matter any more - will be PMing him an apology shorty), not really anything to do with dangerous.

D has reasons for being a grump at times, hes seen crashes where other people have done stupid shit and resulted in others being carted off in helicopters to hospital, not a nice thing.
Oh yes, quite, and I don't envy him having seen any of that stuff - it really can't've been pleasant. I know he means well and doesn't want people doing stupid shit and having pointless accidents / injuries / death / causing harm to others on his watch... but although I'm not saying he's not a sensible person, nor that he wouldn't be after 35 years and roughly 200,000+ kms (see Dangerous, rehearsed it well :bleh:), he really could be antagonising some of the guys who actually partake in the silly buggers, rather than myself.

How many younger guys do you know who waited the full two years to their full, and didn't buy a bigger bike before they had the green plastic? Not sure about you, but seems to me the majority don't wait. I have. In fact, I've now received my official one... but still haven't even test ridden a bigger bike yet. No hurry eh?

That's all I've been trying to say - I'm on the same side as he is. But he doesn't quite seem to get that.

Anyway, that's quite enough of this subject. Back to the ride!

Transalper

10th December 2007, 19:45

...Anyway, that's quite enough of this subject. Back to the ride!
For me, that would be tea at Duvauchelle then.
Weather could go either way but looks warmish.
Me thinks I'll go wet or not.

phoenixgtr

10th December 2007, 21:21

Anyway, that's quite enough of this subject. Back to the ride!

I hope so. I'm sick of the crap. Lets get on with the rides

karla

10th December 2007, 23:16

For me, that would be tea at Duvauchelle then.
Weather could go either way but looks warmish.
Me thinks I'll go wet or not.

I'm hoping to join in again; maybe will bring a friend if that's ok. I went out that way in the weekend, and it was awesome, pretty windy on the way home tho', the GN got thrown around like a feather.

Dave-

11th December 2007, 00:33

I'm hoping to join in again; maybe will bring a friend if that's ok. I went out that way in the weekend, and it was awesome, pretty windy on the way home tho', the GN got thrown around like a feather.

yeah my wee fxr dos too.

I should be along, hopefully getting the new fork seal tomorrow.

dangerous

11th December 2007, 05:01

pretty windy on the way home tho', the GN got thrown around like a feather.
stay relaxed (dont tence up) and let the bike move below you, and keep to the side of the lane that the wind is comming from.

Rashika

11th December 2007, 05:47

not going to be able to make it this wed, got xmasy stuff happening, love this time of year! :msn-wink:

helenoftroy

11th December 2007, 08:19

For me, that would be tea at Duvauchelle then.
Weather could go either way but looks warmish.
Me thinks I'll go wet or not.

Tea at Duvauchelles sounds better than cooking

The young one and I will be there:niceone:

Mr Triple

11th December 2007, 09:59

For me, that would be tea at Duvauchelle then.
Weather could go either way but looks warmish.
Me thinks I'll go wet or not.

I'll be keen to do a run like that. New to kbs so where do you meet and what time

phoenixgtr

11th December 2007, 10:27

6pm at the Burger King Carpark on Moorhouse. Leave at 6.30

karla

11th December 2007, 16:22

stay relaxed (dont tence up) and let the bike move below you, and keep to the side of the lane that the wind is comming from.
Thanks Dangerous. I don't really like being pushed around, but with a bit of practice I'm learning to enjoy the different elements and go with them rather than fight them. Laying down a little helped, as did slowing down slightly. You get to predict the gusts after a while. Still tiring!

Deviant Esq

11th December 2007, 16:56

I'll be keen to come along. If it's anything like as hot as it is today I'll be sweating small rivers within 10 minutes of setting out... but ya get that in the summer! Remembered to top my bike up with oil today - it was getting a little low. Maybe that was the thing causing the backfiring I was getting? It wasn't that low, but I guess it could have been causing it... Anyone know much about these things?

Anyway all topped up, running sweetly and ready to rumble. Just need some decent sleep actually - been way too hot these last few nights and haven't slept at all well, starting to feel a bit odd.

The Lone Rider

11th December 2007, 18:32

Hoping to come, although for different reason then just the ride :P

Where the hell is duchavelle-whatsis?

I will need to be home by 9pm so likely will be pissing off early.

cruza

11th December 2007, 19:01

Have to sit this one out, bugga, still got the 1200 in bits seting valve clearances and giving it its first major service since I brought it(18000km), and parts don't arrive till tomorrow(chain, sprockets,pads airfilter etc) .:pinch: wallet still hurting!

Romeo

11th December 2007, 19:16

Where the hell is duchavelle-whatsis?

<a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&saddr=eaton+Pl,+christchurch&daddr=Christchurch+Akaroa+Rd,+Duvauchelle,+Canterb ury,+New+Zealand&sll=-43.659924,172.769623&sspn=0.459,0.925598&ie=UTF8&cd=1&ll=-43.676811,172.728424&spn=0.458871,0.925598&z=10&om=1"><img src="http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b383/RomeoEskobar/Duvauchelle.jpg" alt="."/></a>

I think I'll give the long straight rides a miss, I get left behind when it's not short and twisty.

fireliv

11th December 2007, 19:28

Phoenix will be doing the represent for us.... Jessies begining to think I dont love her.

DOuvocelle (sp) is on the way to Akaroa, just the other side of the hill

Mr Triple

11th December 2007, 20:51

6pm at the Burger King Carpark on Moorhouse. Leave at 6.30

thanks for that I'll be there as long as it's not rainning

Foobin

11th December 2007, 22:22

I think I'll give the long straight rides a miss, I get left behind when it's not short and twisty.

Its not straight the entire way there, although ill admit there is more straight roads than anything.

Ill be coming out, although probably won't be riding the entire way. Got a new front tire and its slippery as !

onearmedbandit

11th December 2007, 23:32

No better time to scrub it in the Foobin.

dangerous

12th December 2007, 05:00

Ill be coming out,
You going to behave? you and ya mate on the mint wee zxr250?
This is a great road to pratice staying on the correct side of the rd, choose a line and stick to it, no dumb fuck shit like last week aye :msn-wink:

The Lone Rider

12th December 2007, 05:42

I think I'll give the long straight rides a miss, I get left behind when it's not short and twisty.

Lame! I'll hang back with you. Let all the 250s pass :P

imdying

12th December 2007, 06:26

I think I'll give the long straight rides a miss, I get left behind when it's not short and twisty.I wouldn't worry about that, you'll likely get left behind on the twisty bits too. But 'left behind' is a relative thing... plenty of people with be just 'cruisin'... it's TCWNR after all :yes:

Ill be coming out, although probably won't be riding the entire way. Got a new front tire and its slippery as !No it's not, it's in your head... just treat it with respect for the trip, and by the time you get back it'll be scrubbed in. If anything, you should come along to scrub it in, as that'll make it safer for you when you're back on the streets (and all the diesel/oil etc that comes with them). :scooter:

Dave-

12th December 2007, 07:51

some one txt me on oh two won 81 33 00 if it's still on.

thanks!

Biggles2000

12th December 2007, 10:19

I should be there if the rain stops. I don't travel fast.

Foobin... Give the tyre tread either a water blast and or a whipe down with meths...

Phill

Romeo

12th December 2007, 13:09

Lame! I'll hang back with you. Let all the 250s pass :P

It's not that I'm particularly slow, it's just that I don't like to speed. Also, my car has crap pickup, so whilst I can carry my speed through corners, I haven't got a shit show of overtaking anyone. Campervans on the hills are the bain of my existence - I'm not going to endanger anyone else just to keep up.

Plus, I always hang at the back incase anyone bins :niceone:

Transalper

12th December 2007, 13:19

...Campervans on the hills are the bain of my existence...My main reason for riding midweek in the evening, the roads are quieter than daytime weekends which are better suited for back road and dirt road riding.

Spuds1234

12th December 2007, 13:33

Wont be able to make it this week as I have a work movie/bowling night unfortunaltly.

Next weeks should definatly be a go-er though.

The Lone Rider

12th December 2007, 14:35

Slight plan change - will come to say hello. Depending on which direction taken to go out, I will either shoot off from BK or turn off at Halswell Junction/Sparks road.

Edit again-

.. if not raining.

And it is.

And I've been offered by two young women to come over to my house and cook me dinner.

Hmmm.. choices.

Foobin

12th December 2007, 14:37

You going to behave? you and ya mate on the mint wee zxr250?
This is a great road to pratice staying on the correct side of the rd, choose a line and stick to it, no dumb fuck shit like last week aye :msn-wink:

Oh ill behave :), can't take it too fast anyway, this new tire is like riding on ice.

karla

12th December 2007, 16:07

Looks like I've been outed for tonight, all my plans fell apart at the last minute. Will try again next week. Sucks when I have to stay in ~sad~ ~sad~ ~sad~ ~/end sad ~
happy again, no point in hanging on to resentments.

Deviant Esq

12th December 2007, 16:52

Fookin' rain :( Me still with no appropriate gear (still trying to get that finalised) = no go riding in the rain. Have fun all those going, and to all those not, there's always next week :)

Bren_chch

12th December 2007, 17:01

i'm gana come down on my new toy and have a look, wont be riding with ya but just to say hello

phoenixgtr

12th December 2007, 19:39

It's a very cool new toy too!!

Well I went and said hello to the guys with big enough balls to turn up but had to leave due to the reason montioned earlier. Good on ya those who went for a ride

Dave-

12th December 2007, 21:57

I'm exhausted....

it was wet then not quite so wet the wet then we got there, then we left and it was warm...so the ride back dried me nicely.

Transalper

12th December 2007, 22:01

And what a great ride it was. The rain that we had was just big lazy drops, the kind that have already beaded and started to run off ya visor for you, easy to see through stuff.
Since there were only five of us going all the way we had a little vote and ended up going out through the tunnel, round the bays where the rain had practically stopped and with a second vote near the Weatcheif we decided to go with plan 'A' and have tea at Duvaychelle. Tea was good although there were others had ordered before us so we had a bit of a wait, we each had a $10 special (photos to come hopefully) except young Dave who just had a basket of chips.
Eventually it was decided we'd better head home and with the roads now mostly dry we had an even better run back over the hill and in to Halswell where people started splitting off to go their own ways.
Got to say small groups are nice and much easier to ride with, and yes we did ride as a group.
Cheers guys,
TA.

Oh yeah, only struck a few more spits of rain again as I turned in to my street.

Ghost_Bullet

12th December 2007, 22:36

Well to be said at 10.03pm it was 23 degrees, was waiting for 10.04 and 24, but did not make it. The visor was clean when I left the pub, until just round the corner, some fat arse bug splattered all its contents right where my good eye looks through. Was able to smudge enuf to get ok vision. Bloody good ripper over and around to that pub for my first visit. A good feed after it's long awaited arrival, somthing about the chef having trouble cooking eggs???? Tasty and cheap, def a do again.

Good to meet the new face (Bent51). And sit about the table chatter and debate the world.

Wot more to be said :first:

(I was just looking at this :yawn: smilie... and bugger me...... I yawned!!!!!)

Pictures..... there they are down there :woohoo:

Machiavelli

13th December 2007, 06:51

Thanks Dangerous. I don't really like being pushed around, but with a bit of practice I'm learning to enjoy the different elements and go with them rather than fight them. Laying down a little helped, as did slowing down slightly. You get to predict the gusts after a while. Still tiring!

The amount the wind gusts affect you seems to be inversely proportional to the size of your arse. This is why I don't have too much trouble on my GN :laugh:

You're obviously too healthy, pack on a few hundred pounds and i'm sure the wind won't be a problem. Or what Dangerous said...

Mr Triple

13th December 2007, 07:41

It was great to meet you all. I had a fantastic time and look forward to riding with you all again.

helenoftroy

13th December 2007, 08:09

Is that a Lemans I spy? sounds like you had a nice ride guys:rockon:

Those meals look substantial.Casualty and I did weather checks every 5 mins till 6pm then decision made:crybaby:

Hav'nt got wet weather gear for the young one yet.Pleased the new rider enjoyed the ride.

Mikkel

13th December 2007, 08:17

Sounds like you had fun! :)

I should be coming along from Wednesday again! :2thumbsup

The amount the wind gusts affect you seems to be inversely proportional to the size of your arse. This is why I don't have too much trouble on my GN :laugh:

You're obviously too healthy, pack on a few hundred pounds and i'm sure the wind won't be a problem. Or what Dangerous said...

Haven't heard much from you lately M. Lovely photo you took for the Calendar btw! :niceone:

karla

13th December 2007, 15:03

The amount the wind gusts affect you seems to be inversely proportional to the size of your arse. This is why I don't have too much trouble on my GN :laugh:

You're obviously too healthy, pack on a few hundred pounds and i'm sure the wind won't be a problem. Or what Dangerous said...

Whoo hoo - someone riding my bike and about my size - not all biker chicks are 25 years old and 59kgs :p

laRIKin

13th December 2007, 16:48

It was great to meet you all. I had a fantastic time and look forward to riding with you all again.

Yes it was a great ride with great people in the rain, sometimes it is fun and enjoyable to ride in the wet.

Glad I did it and meet you as well Bent and Dave again.

I glad we solved the world problems Q.

Got home to a "where the hell have you been".:spanking::baby:
As she worried about me, me that's nice.:hug:

Oakie

15th December 2007, 12:59

- not all biker chicks are 25 years old and 59kgs :p

Mrs Oakie would agree.

200BUSA

15th December 2007, 23:57

Are the rides still happening over the christmas break?Not everyone will be on holiday or going away.So just checking to see if we still having the Wed ride or having some day rides over the break.

fireliv

16th December 2007, 08:45

I would like to thing the rides will continue, either as per wed or earlier. I think it will just have to be a decision on here. Phoenix and I can't do boxing day, but will try for the 2nd if anyone is keen. We wont be here the 9th, but I think it should be business as normal that night

Dave-

16th December 2007, 19:01

doubt I'll ba able to make the next few weeks, work have fucked up and rostered me on midnight finishing.

then again I'm working every other day of the week so it's pretty much being smashed into one big work-eat-work-sleep-work-eat-work-sleep pattern.

No FX

16th December 2007, 20:31

Are the rides still happening over the christmas break?Not everyone will be on holiday or going away.So just checking to see if we still having the Wed ride or having some day rides over the break.

yeah if theres people there then its on. i think with the numbers we usually get theres guaranteed to be a few who are still up for it!!

scumdog

16th December 2007, 21:56

Thanks Dangerous. I don't really like being pushed around, but with a bit of practice I'm learning to enjoy the different elements and go with them rather than fight them. Laying down a little helped, as did slowing down slightly. You get to predict the gusts after a while. Still tiring!

Also try sticking out you knee a bit on the side the wind is coming from- it DOES work, mainly in a strong steady wind, but helps a bit even on gusty winds..

Mikkel

17th December 2007, 16:32

Due to reasons outlined in this thread (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=63172), I doubt very much that I'll be coming along on wednesday anyway :(

And maybe that issue will extend all the way into the new year :(

fireliv

17th December 2007, 21:40

SO any ideas for this week????

JMemonic

17th December 2007, 23:16

I don't think I will be getting out this week unfortunately, might make it to BK in the cage just to say hi.

phoenixgtr

18th December 2007, 07:57

Well this lubrication falling from the sky is supposed to stop tonight (according to MetVUW) so it might be ok tomorrow. I really need a ride so humour me...

Transalper

18th December 2007, 11:55

interesting that no one is fowarding any suggestions on destinations for tomorrow.
I do not expect to be there this week, or the following two after but since we have either ridden past or stopped to regroup outside the Wheatsheaf a couple of times now could I suggest it might be nice for them if the group goes in to spend some cash there soon for a change.

Cheers
TA.

funny, no matter how many times I ask or am told how to spell Wheatsheaf I can't remember the correct way

MyGSXF

18th December 2007, 12:27

I don't really like being pushed around, but with a bit of practice I'm learning to enjoy the different elements and go with them rather than fight them. Laying down a little helped, as did slowing down slightly. You get to predict the gusts after a while

Roadsafe (www.roadsafe.co.nz) taught us to drop down a gear & power "through" the wind. As you mentioned, you do get to predict after a while.. by keeping an eye on the surroundings.. eg: expecting a gust where a tall hedge or row of trees ends. :niceone:

Jen :rockon:

Mikkel

18th December 2007, 12:57

funny, no matter how many times I ask or am told how to spell Wheatsheaf I can't remember the correct way

You do remember the correct way... I can tell ;)

cruza

18th December 2007, 15:53

mmm $10 meal sounded good, from last week, hanging out for a blat, just finished putting bike back together and went and got don to rivet new xring chain on, wasn't raining here , but as usual it was closer to town:doh:.

SVboy

18th December 2007, 15:59

Geez Paul, it will be a new bike now!:eek:

BADGRL

18th December 2007, 18:02

Hell yeah I'm keen for a ride this week, went round the bays, through Gebbis and out Tai tapu last night about 8.30 was awesome!

cruza

18th December 2007, 18:33

Geez Paul, it will be a new bike now!:eek:

Yep alot better than the clunking I kept hearing comin back from staging post ,brakes seem sharper with new fluid too. drained just over 1 litre from the gas tank when I took it off to adjust valve clearances, just as well I put a little more fuel in it at cheviot, otherwise I would have been pushing:laugh:.

Transalper

18th December 2007, 19:20

mmm $10 meal sounded good, from last week, hanging out for a blat,....
mmm $10 meal, don't remind me... did I say I won't be there tomorrow?? I meant to say I probably won't be there tomorrow... or that's a bit like saying I might not be... could be mistaken for sounding like might be.:confused: awww I want to go too

There will be shingle involved 4 me if I go!

Deviant Esq

18th December 2007, 20:16

Whereabouts is this $10 meal thing? My partner's away doing a road trip with an old friend of hers so I'm not being cooked for at the moment... and a $10 meal as a lazy cop out option is sounding good to me! :whistle:

Ghost_Bullet

18th December 2007, 20:24

Devocials it was, nice feed, fully fattening.... but thats not a bad thing, it did take a little time to be fed, and we nattered a bit, so a ride home just at sun down, bloody nice all the same, and adds to the experience in so many ways. :scooter:

Transalper

18th December 2007, 20:42

We had wet roads to contend with last time and also went via Lyttelton which all added to the lateness

cruza

19th December 2007, 11:23

We had wet roads to contend with last time and also went via Lyttelton which all added to the lateness

So is it straight thru halswell then and a $10 special ,same as last week??? weather looks touch and go at the mo......... :(

imdying

19th December 2007, 11:51

Not supposed to rain, no other obligations and the bike is in one piece... we'll see :)

Spuds1234

19th December 2007, 11:54

I'll probably be there.

Have to be off early though as I have a really early start tomorrow.

JMemonic

19th December 2007, 12:32

Have to be off early though as I have a really early start tomorrow.

You want a wake up call say about 0100 ??:laugh::mobile:

And with that said folks I will miss the ride and my intention of joining you all at the start, have fun.

I hope you all have a good Christmas and New Years and look forward to seeing everyone some time in February.:niceone:

Spuds1234

19th December 2007, 12:43

You want a wake up call say about 0100 ??:laugh::mobile:

From you? Anytime ;):shit:

Mikkel

19th December 2007, 13:04

I hope you all have a good Christmas and New Years and look forward to seeing everyone some time in February.:niceone:

Sir, yes sir! :yes:

Have a nice holiday mate :niceone:

Deviant Esq

19th December 2007, 16:16

Bugger it. :mellow:

Got reminded today my work christmas do is tonight, so unfortunately I can't make the ride - which sucks, been looking forward to it all week. :(

Hope you guys have a good ride.

alan_w

19th December 2007, 16:18

Anybody going tonight? Looking forward to meeting you guys :-)

Ghost_Bullet

19th December 2007, 16:38

wassant gunna, then i was, then could not be bothered, then the sun came out, then i felt tired, now I am awake, Mrs Bullet and the Blanks have "shot" off for cardboard food at Macca's, so home alone, and, wel she said ya may as well, so bugger me, bugger it, wadda ya do???

So a long story short, See ya there in a mo, about 30min approx

dangerous

19th December 2007, 16:38

Anybody going tonight? Looking forward to meeting you guys :-)

beter pull finger man, or you will miss the ferry :confused:

fireliv

19th December 2007, 16:42

You want a wake up call say about 0100 ??:laugh::mobile:

And with that said folks I will miss the ride and my intention of joining you all at the start, have fun.

I hope you all have a good Christmas and New Years and look forward to seeing everyone some time in February.:niceone:

Hey ya! Have a great christmas break and thanks for all your help on the rides, you rock~:Punk:

Will see everyone who is showing there soon

karla

19th December 2007, 20:03

Roadsafe (www.roadsafe.co.nz) taught us to drop down a gear & power "through" the wind. As you mentioned, you do get to predict after a while.. by keeping an eye on the surroundings.. eg: expecting a gust where a tall hedge or row of trees ends. :niceone:

Jen :rockon:

I'm hoping to do a course with them sometime. I followed the link, and one thing led to another, as they do, and discovered that the Ride Forever DVD is available at http://rideforever.co.nz/road_awareness/dvd_order_form.html free.

Looking forward to joining in with another group gathering but can't see it happening til after xmas at this stage. Back to surfing...:soon:

MyGSXF

19th December 2007, 20:10

I'm hoping to do a course with them sometime

Check this out then... :Punk:

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=62082&page=3

Jen :rockon:

karla

19th December 2007, 20:16

Check this out then... :Punk:

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=62082&page=3

Jen :rockon:

cheers ~ subscribed, willing and waiting ... and in meantime spreading the message also <grin>.

MyGSXF

19th December 2007, 20:19

cheers ~ subscribed, willing and waiting ... and in meantime spreading the message also <grin>.

cool :2thumbsup but don't spread it too far though... already got a huuuuuge list of names!!! :crazy:

Ghost_Bullet

19th December 2007, 22:15

Another very goodly evening.
So me not knowing if going or not going was going to happen.... it was worth the jaunt... roads almost deserted:Punk:
A great ride over the hill to try and find the 10 buck meal again, to find that it was not to be found, but a 15.90 meal had to surfice. Hope the persons whom did not make the whole run is good too?!

Well me likley to be out of this for the next few weeks, with xmas and moving house.....cya :soon: on the Wenz'dy Bendy cruisy nites.

Pictures show the goodness!!!
<a href="http://rides.webshots.com/album/560433870VXsXih"><img src="http://thumb16.webshots.net/t/68/68/4/61/48/2663461480100338616yvXMkk_th.jpg" alt="Image hosted by Webshots.com"></a> by <a href=http://community.webshots.com/user/GhostBullet> GhostBullet</a>

The Lone Rider

19th December 2007, 22:53

UNless something comes up, the 26th is a goer for me.

Spuds1234

20th December 2007, 04:18

dangerous

20th December 2007, 04:59

Seems it's not such a good idea to go off road on a Katana.
Tree 1 Katana 0

And I believe you wernt the only one man...
This was expected but not by the guys taht did it in my opion, this is the reason I wont go on these rides, yeah sure sometimes shit can happen, but my dislike is in the way the rides are run eg: last ride I did the organiser said we will re regroup at the kiwi... no one was there when I arived so I waited for the last bunch to arive. eg: 2, bad riding habbits... they will catch up with you.

Spuds, tell us ya story so others can learn from your cock up (providing the twats listen and take it in)

fireliv

20th December 2007, 06:35

Yes Dangerous we know why you wont come on the rides..... lets move on from that.

Actually the regroups worked fine tonight, except for the first. We waited, but assumed after a while that they had continued. The fast group was waiting where we had decided, and we stoped for quite a while at little river, which was where those riding with the first accident caught us.

Mistakes happen, by riders of all abilities. Its gonna happen sometime or another, we just have to learn from it and move on

helenoftroy

20th December 2007, 08:35

Nice nite for a ride - very enjoyable:woohoo:Ist time I've ever been to the Davauchelles Pub.Went back over the hill following NiggleC on the Strom.Good for me - he rides smooth lines,a pleasure to follow.Young Casuality has been really enjoying these rides and I'm keen for him to follow other good riders(Im not the best example:doh:)He had a great ride back with GB,Bent51,Spuds and Transalper.I rode the old Tai Tap road for the 1st time on the way back:niceone: See everyone in the new year:banana:

Mr Triple

20th December 2007, 19:42

It was a good nights ride with nice dry roads unlike last week

Hope the rider that had an off in front of me is all well and the repair bill not too big.

It was an enjoyable run back home, I like sitting behind GB that bike sounds shit hot when open up.

I'll see you all in the new year for the wednesday night rides
Cheers

dangerous

20th December 2007, 20:14

Yes Dangerous we know why you wont come on the rides..... lets move on from that.

Na... what move on till some one gets killed, then you say what? ohh maybe we should have listened to that old prick harping on.

Its gonna happen sometime or another,
Na... it does NOT have to happen at all, atatudes like yours cause it.
And what you are saying is two accos on one ride is aceptable?

Ghost_Bullet

20th December 2007, 21:26

Certainly never acceptable to have any off's, acco's or whatever, but to have an enjoyable ride.
Everyone has the responsibility to ride within their limits, if for nothing else to to keep the whole group safe, and arrive at, and home from destination in one peice with all bits in-tact.

Understandable though every time ya hit the road, ya gonna be at risk of something going amiss, wether it be by foot, car, bike or whatever.
We just dont want to create a rep that "people" see a flock (ok I work in poulty) of bikes, that they expect to see wreckage down the track somewhere.

fireliv

20th December 2007, 21:29

Na... what move on till some one gets killed, then you say what? ohh maybe we should have listened to that old prick harping on.

Na... it does NOT have to happen at all, atatudes like yours cause it.
And what you are saying is two accos on one ride is aceptable?

No dangerous I'm not. Just sick of you bleating on about it! I see your point, but if that how you feel then why do you ride at all?? You seamed to be so fixed on everyone elses riding faults how about looking at ure own?? Unless you are all knowing and all perfect which I highly doubt it! I'm sure you have crashed before so dont you try and take the look at me I'm always right stance with me. YOU ARE NOT HELPING YOU JUST PISS PEOPLE OFF. If you do not like how things are being run, then you organise it! If you dont wanna come along and do that then keep ure crap to ureself.

I for one had a good ride. Just went at my own pace at the back, and just tried to relax a bit more. Wont be there next week but should make the following. Have fun those who head out

NiggleC

20th December 2007, 23:33

Aw shucks Helen you're too kind.

Dave-

21st December 2007, 00:49

Not a bad ride tonight. Thoroughly enjoyed myself and learnt a lot.

Seems it's not such a good idea to go off road on a Katana.

Tree 1 Katana 0

Good times though and I didnt get hurt. Cheers to all who stopped. Guess I looked a bit silly perched where I was.

Not sure if I'll be down next week as its our busiest trading day. Could be a good way to unwind, but unfortunatly I may just find myself working a 12 hour day. Who knows?

but the katana starts with like 20....so the score is katana: 20 tree:1

12 hour day?...pussy I've done 3 of those so far all have been friedman 12 hours too, so I've had to close up and do the banking on top of that, every other day has been 10+ and I have a 13 hour tomorrow! with only 1 half hour break if I'm lucky which is usually broken in half by some customer who cant read the instructions on the touch screen display!

Monday I did 12.5 hours on the floor with 3 10 minute breaks...

dangerous

21st December 2007, 05:04

No dangerous I'm not. Just sick of you bleating on about it! I see your point, but if that how you feel then why do you ride at all?? You seamed to be so fixed on everyone elses riding faults how about looking at ure own?? Unless you are all knowing and all perfect which I highly doubt it! I'm sure you have crashed before so dont you try and take the look at me I'm always right stance with me. YOU ARE NOT HELPING YOU JUST PISS PEOPLE OFF. If you do not like how things are being run, then you organise it! If you dont wanna come along and do that then keep ure crap to ureself.

Your a silly ______ now arnt ya? I havnt 'started' bleating on yet, asking me why I ride is a no brainer girl... think about it will ya?
Im working on my own faults FL, always have always will, Ya know what at my age and the 200,000+ km's on the road plus track time, maybe... just maybe I am knowing, but certinly not perfect... yip I have crashed before... and thats why I DONT reconmend it, have you seen mates flowen away by ambo helly, had to call a meat wagon cos ya mates flat on the ground not moving... how about DEAD, I have lost count of the funerals I have been to.
If you think my posts are "crap" then good on ya, I hope when/if you arse up ya dont think... 'ohhh thats what the red headed prick ment'
If my 'bleating on' saves just one broken bone... Im happy, even if its yours.

Ever read the Dorkland ride threads? 5 bins on on ride once, and eventually 2 dead in one acco... NOT down here FL if only Dorkland had a 'bleater'

Still thinking about the question above? heres a clew, 'passion'... the other clew is above.

imdying

21st December 2007, 06:42

Keep it seemly kids :Offtopic:

Everyone has the responsibility to ride within their limitsThat's says enough imho. I couldn't gel with my bike on Wednesday, so I rode slower... gave me a little more confidence and I was able to utilise a little more pace on the way home. If you haven't got that sort of self control, then bikes might be a short lived hobby for you.

fireliv

21st December 2007, 06:55

phoenixgtr

21st December 2007, 07:16

Everyone has the responsibility to ride within their limits...

This is the key point here. Everyone has their own responsibility. You can't blame the entire group for the actions of one or a few. Of course if someone is doing stupid shit on these rides then they should get a talking to. And tell me D, whats the difference between someone crashing on a Wednesday night ride and someone crashing on some other group ride or by themselves?? At least they've got plenty of support on a Wednesday. You seem to have some vendetta against these rides.

In terms of the accos on Wednesday both seem to have just been silly mistakes. Noone was doing stupid shit and as far as I know everyone was well behaved.

As for organisation of the ride, it's a work in progress. We have a clear briefing at the start now, but you can have all the organisation in the world but if noone listens to you its useless!!

Transalper

21st December 2007, 08:58

So do we get a nice new clean thread for 2008, maybe call it something more like 'Chch Wednesday Evening Cruises'

karla

21st December 2007, 09:00

I'm pleased that someone else is taking the role of being a grumpy old prick, means I don't have to do it ~ and it's a shit of a job really. Good on ya Dangerous:2thumbsup - and thank you.

I'm happy ~ the sun is shining (finally, seems like it's been raining forever) and I passed my full licence this morning with 100%. Yee Haaaaa!

Heaps of obstacles on the road made it an interesting ride! After a bit of playing around with the speaker/earpiece and changing it over from left to right, I forgot to do up my helmet, and had to pull over and confess {grin}. Luckily the driving inspector was one of those forgiving angels, and he just ribbed me about it rather than failing me.

Now I'm ready to start learning how to carry a pillion passenger, and to start test riding the bikes I've been looking at ...

Hope to be able to join in next Wed, and make up the numbers in the slower group of cruisy riders ~ K

onearmedbandit

21st December 2007, 09:12

Congrats on passing your license!

imdying

21st December 2007, 09:13

So do we get a nice new clean thread for 2008, maybe call it something more like 'Chch Wednesday Evening Cruises'

I'll start another one on nzsbf, The Regular Wednesday Night Race :rofl:

Rashika

21st December 2007, 09:27

I'm pleased that someone else is taking the role of being a grumpy old prick, means I don't have to do it ~ and it's a shit of a job really. Good on ya Dangerous:2thumbsup - and thank you....

I'm happy ~ the sun is shining (finally, seems like it's been raining forever) and I passed my full licence this morning with 100%. Yee Haaaaa!

Now I'm ready to start learning how to carry a pillion passenger, and to start test riding the bikes I've been looking at ...

Hope to be able to join in next Wed, and make up the numbers in the slower group of cruisy riders ~ K
on ya chicky about the full licence! :niceone:
So what bikes are you looking at?

karla

21st December 2007, 10:35

Congrats on passing your license!

Thanks guys (and grls)

on ya chicky about the full licence! :niceone:
So what bikes are you looking at?

Looking looking looking ~ I started off looking at Suzuki Boulevard S50, but am keeping open minded now ... sat on Triumph Bonneville and it felt great, light and comfortable, as did Harley Sportster 883. I want to look at a Honda Shadow too before I decide. The smaller bikes seem to come in and go out pretty quickly at this time of the year. Not a worry as I'm not in any hurry, although I am looking forward to have a little more grunt. :soon:

I'm sort of hoping that it will be one of those love at first sight experiences ... but it doesn't hurt to ride on a few so I can compare and act knowledgable :cool:

It's not all about speed or size, it's all about comfort, dependability and durability - I don't want one that is going to break down ever (might be asking a lot here!) even tho' I love and trust my mechanic.

Rashika

21st December 2007, 11:58

I'm sort of hoping that it will be one of those love at first sight experiences ... but it doesn't hurt to ride on a few so I can compare and act knowledgable :cool:

It's not all about speed or size, it's all about comfort, dependability and durability - I don't want one that is going to break down ever (might be asking a lot here!) even tho' I love and trust my mechanic.

ride as many as you can, anything and everything, cos you just never know, something that was just a whim may turn out to be THE ONE!
Ah the joys of bike shopping :banana:

helenoftroy

21st December 2007, 12:26

ride as many as you can, anything and everything, cos you just never know, something that was just a whim may turn out to be THE ONE!
Ah the joys of bike shopping :banana:

Great news Karla:2thumbsup

Roll on 2008 when the joys of bike shopping come my way to:banana::banana:

dangerous

21st December 2007, 16:59

Keep it seemly kids
sorry I wont call myself a red headed prick again :girlfight:

Again, all that personal stats but nothing in there that is actually helpful. So what if you have been riding for 25 years blah blah blah if you cant offer USEFUL advice. Once in a while you do but most of the time its crap.

You dont know me so dont go making assumptions that you know nothing about.

LMFAO... this has NOTHING to do with you, wake up smell the coffee what ever, FFS just get over it.

I'm pleased that someone else is taking the role of being a grumpy old prick, means I don't have to do it ~ and it's a shit of a job really. Good on ya Dangerous:2thumbsup - and thank you.

Thank you, comments like yours and seeing my work as it might be in riders comming through... are the only things that keep me doing my best to help, cos people like FL are only going to learn the hard way, or never at all.

You can't blame the entire group for the actions of one or a few. And tell me D, whats the difference between someone crashing on a Wednesday night ride and someone crashing on some other group ride or by themselves?? You seem to have some vendetta against these rides.
Shit you and ya missus take things the wrong way... who the hell is blaming the "entire" group for anything?
No difference no mater what day it is.. whats that question about?
Vendetta is a strong word man... no such thing here, but after riding with the group you shoud be looking at renaming it yeah?

In terms of the accos on Wednesday both seem to have just been silly mistakes. Noone was doing stupid shit and as far as I know everyone was well behaved!

getting ya knee down at 80K with over 100hp and wondering why the rear lets go??? thats silly in my books

onearmedbandit

21st December 2007, 17:28

getting ya knee down at 80K with over 100hp and wondering why the rear lets go??? thats silly in my books

Cool, who was that?

The Lone Rider

21st December 2007, 17:37

Thank you, comments like yours and seeing my work as it might be in riders comming through... are the only things that keep me doing my best to help, cos people like FL are only going to learn the hard way, or never at all.

You might want to take that back. Karla is a Chromed Knuckles member of sorts :P

Did Mac go on Wensday, and did he introduce himself to you?

26th still looking good for me so if you are there I'll meet up with you for the ride. Did you check out any of those bikes I sent you about?

laRIKin

21st December 2007, 17:41

You might want to take that back. Karla is a Chromed Knuckles member of sorts :P

Is this a threat?

fireliv

21st December 2007, 17:42

The Lone Rider

21st December 2007, 17:46

Whatever dangerous. :rolleyes:

Thank goodness there are some people out there that actally take the time to ride/ talk to ya, that arent pricks, and dont put the rides down.

Good to see someones keen to do the ride on the 26th!

The idiocy might never die, but the ignore functions work wonders if you use them for awhile. Brings back sanity.. until of course someone says something stupid or quotes you the wrong way. :calm:

We make the 26th something semi xmas themed?

fireliv

21st December 2007, 17:47

The idiocy might never die, but the ignore functions work wonders if you use them for awhile. Brings back sanity.. until of course someone says something stupid or quotes you the wrong way. :calm:

We make the 26th something semi xmas themed?

Already done that Llama. Yeah get those reindeer ears out!

The Lone Rider

21st December 2007, 17:49

Already done that Llama. Yeah get those reindeer ears out!

CK have a test run tomorrow - "Santa Run" if you'd like to come along. Send me a PM. Just a small group doing a Xmas themed ride (see my avatar). Hopefully will do the same next year and make it similar to the Chomdelay Childrens Home Run. Others can PM me as well, will be a person by person basis for this year as it's to be casual.

Of course I'll probably end up the only one christmased up.. friggen wusses.

fireliv

21st December 2007, 17:54

Cheers for the offer!!! Unfortunatly got plans so wont be able to make it but sounds fun!

dangerous

21st December 2007, 17:57

Cool, who was that?
LOL, she/he will say when ready... but the way I see it what ever she/he did do after the highside (if I read the txts corect) was handled well as no serious injurys but $3500 to fix the bike aint a nice feeling

You might want to take that back. Karla is a Chromed Knuckles member of sorts
What the hell are you on about knuckle head? and hey... put me back on ignore.

Is this a threat?
hahaha, LMAO :2thumbsup

Rashika

21st December 2007, 18:00

The idiocy might never die...
no it doesn't esp if people keep going... on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on.

The young ones have an excuse cos they are young and inexperienced... the old have an excuse cos they are old and grumpy... I've got a completely diff excuse that i wont go into here... but jees you lot get in a fkn boxing and ring and get it over with will ya???

he said she said he said... what ever.... its just gonna go on so how about just being mature about it and letting it go?

The ignore function???... what too scared to read just in case you react and have a hissy? shit get some balls

anyway, maybe the 26th, could happen seeing as its a holiday and no work YEEE FERKN HA!!! NO WORK FOR 17 days

The Lone Rider

21st December 2007, 18:00

and hey... put me back on ignore.

I'll do it when i'm fucking ready bitch :P :)

Spuds1234

21st December 2007, 18:21

You guys wanna know more about my accident.

Goes like this:

Overtook a car going down hill towards a corner. Heaps of clear space and got around easily. Speed got a bit high but not licence loosing, so was all good there.

Started braking for the corner really early. Used a bit to much rear brake and it locked up. No problems here, the rear stays in a straight line so long as you dont do anything stupid like lean the bike sideways.

Got to the point where I needed to start cornering so I eased off the rear brake (you could see where my skid mark stopped) and I started wondering why I wasnt cornering. By this time I wasnt going very fast at all.

Saw myself go over the center line. Tonnes of front and heaps more rear. Rear locks again and the skid mark goes off the side of the road between a marker and a tree and I gracefully take the corner on the off the wrong side of the road and end up watching the other bikers pass me with confused looks on their faces.

Didnt fall off, didnt hurt myself. Hell didnt really do any real damage to the bike. A branch collected a mirror but thats cheap enough to replace. It broke of cleanly and didnt rark up the fairing.

The reason why I didnt take the corner was because I was looking where I didnt want to go. I got so hung up on the other side of the road so that was where I went.

Target fixation is a bitch and now that I have had a good healthy dose of it (this is the first time Ive ever experienced something like that) I will be wiser to it in the future.

Also must do more emergency braking practice. I probably should have been able to avoid going off the road just by braking in a straight line by using more front brake. I just didnt feel comfitable doing it at the time.

onearmedbandit

21st December 2007, 18:31

LOL, she/he will say when ready... but the way I see it what ever she/he did do after the highside (if I read the txts corect) was handled well as no serious injurys but $3500 to fix the bike aint a nice feeling

Kneedown highside? I heard about the crash you talk of the morning after, but that surprises me.

dangerous

21st December 2007, 18:47

You guys wanna know more about my accident.

Goes like this:

You sound on to it man, good on ya... but will any of these ignorant wanabes take it in?

Spuds1234

21st December 2007, 18:52

You sound on to it man, good on ya... but will any of these ignorant wanabes take it in?

Dude less of the name calling. Keep it civilised.

Most of the guys here are just skipping right over your posts because they cant bare to read another post where you insult the majority of riders that go on this ride.

Just remember you catch more flies with honey.

As for being on to it. I for one am always trying to figure out why things happen. Especially things where I end up off the road. If I can figure it out all well and good. If I cant I just ask someone.

I just wish Transalper was behind me with his camera turned on. I was quite disappointed really that he wasnt lol.

dangerous

21st December 2007, 18:56

Most of the guys here are just skipping right over your posts because they cant bare to read another post where you insult the majority of riders that go on this ride.

Show me??? all I have hassled is a couple that have crossed the center line, I have never passed comment on to FL or you??????????????? christ I complerminted you above and you return withs a bash????????

dangerous

21st December 2007, 19:02

Ok, so Im happy to help out anyone that asks... I will not be helping out any of you others you lot can learn the hard way, I hope it dosnt hurt too much.
Other members said a acco was going to happen and it did... sorry for trying to help avoid these suituations, enjoy ya rides, near missis (quote nearly killing ya selves) and crashs :argh:

This from a green reper in the Nort IS
"Most of these guys are young and haven't lost friends on the roads...yet, maybe then they may wake up and realise that you're talking sense"

THE END

Spuds1234

21st December 2007, 19:03

Im not taking offence to anything you have said nor did I mean to offend you, just pointing out that the gnorant wanabes comment wasnt needed.

I probably should have worded it better. I think everyone is getting sick of this thread being fouled up by arguing. I know I am. Personally I would rather see all this stuff be taken to the PM system rather than out in the open.

imdying

21st December 2007, 19:08

LOL, she/he will say when ready... but the way I see it what ever she/he did do after the highside (if I read the txts corect) was handled well as no serious injurys but $3500 to fix the bike aint a nice feelingI saw one girl with a bike that had had a simple lowside :shrug:

karla

21st December 2007, 19:13

You might want to take that back. Karla is a Chromed Knuckles member of sorts :P

Did Mac go on Wensday, and did he introduce himself to you?

26th still looking good for me so if you are there I'll meet up with you for the ride. Did you check out any of those bikes I sent you about?

Ahhh, a sense of belonging ... maybe ...

    :Punk:

I am free tomorrow and have a spare bit of tinsel ~ so can I come too?

The Lone Rider

21st December 2007, 19:15

Ahhh, a sense of belonging ... maybe ...

    :Punk:

I am free tomorrow and have a spare bit of tinsel ~ so can I come too?

You nutter, I already sent you an email about it and you said you were coming :P You even replied back i think!

cruza

21st December 2007, 20:14

Well I had a good ride on wednesday nite, not good to hear about the near miss spuds , but I quess it's a lesson learnt. stuck with some of the front guys, but had to ease off on the power a bit as the bike/suspension was starting to leave its comfort zone, perhaps santa has a olhlins shock in his sack for me :shifty: pity the $10 dollar special was off the menu, perhaps we better call and give them a rark-up next year when we plan a visit 15 -20 people has to be good for business??.

karla

21st December 2007, 20:31

You nutter, I already sent you an email about it and you said you were coming :P You even replied back i think!

I did? That must have been a few days ago ...did I mention my memory problem?    :(

I think I said I wasn't going to come - I lied!! :argue: No I didn't ... yes you did. Ah, who cares, I'll be there ...

Oakie

21st December 2007, 20:32

perhaps santa has a olhlins shock in his sack
Ouch, that's gotta hurt!

Oakie

21st December 2007, 20:49

It's not all about speed or size, it's all about comfort, dependability and durability - I don't want one that is going to break down ever (might be asking a lot here!)
Ahh, so you'll be after a Honda then! :bleh:

Bren_chch

21st December 2007, 21:11

Again, all that personal stats but nothing in there that is actually helpful. So what if you have been riding for 25 years blah blah blah if you cant offer USEFUL advice. Once in a while you do but most of the time its crap.

You dont know me so dont go making assumptions that you know nothing about.

You are young, you have a lot to learn... your posts reflect how little you know. You need to respect someone who has as many miles on the clock as some of those offering you advise, do that and you will learn much and save yaself some pain.

fireliv

21st December 2007, 21:19

You are young, you have a lot to learn... your posts reflect how little you know. You need to respect someone who has as many miles on the clock as some of those offering you advise, do that and you will learn much and save yaself some pain.

Again, you dont know me, my family, my life or anything about me, so please dont assume anything. If you read back through I have acknowledged when help/useful advice has been given, but respect is still something that is earned in actions, not in words.
Thanks for your comment Bren but it wasnt necessary

Deviant Esq

21st December 2007, 21:21

Ah, nothing's changed eh? People were getting pissed off with me and Dangerous' little exchanges... so I choose to ignore what he's saying (for the record, still read them, but stop short of replying to them or entering into any discussions about them)... and others have just taken up the reigns.

Guys, don't worry about dangerous. Seriously. He means well, just arses up in the delivery is all, makes it sound like he's trying to start a war. None of us want crashes to happen either, so we're all on the same side.... he just gets a bit more passionate (that's what you said D :bleh:) about it online.

I'm in the "it's about personal responsibility" boat too. End of the day you can't control anything anyone else is doing. Influence? Yes, some. Control? Not even close. So why stress overly about it? Do something about what you can control - yourself - and that's all you can do. If you feel that you're in danger of coming to grief because of others on the ride, either have a word in their ear, make sure you don't ride near them, or don't come on the ride. Worry about what you can control, stress less about the rest. :calm:

I probably won't be able to make the 26th - all too many family things - but looking forward to the next one I can make all the same. :)

Bren_chch

21st December 2007, 21:23

Thanks for your comment Bren but it wasnt necessary

ummm... yes it was! Your welcome but i wasnt assuming anything, i was stating!

26th sounds good.

Ghost_Bullet

21st December 2007, 22:15

no it doesn't esp if people keep going... on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on.

Shite I read every no... when the wife gets a no response from me for everything she says... I am going to blame this very post!!!!!!!:blink:

You guys wanna know more about my accident.
Goes like this:

I was following this young man, (shit saying it like that makes me feel old) Nice amount of tyre smoke from the rear, but really ya should be doing that stationary, exactly as he said, lookin the wrong way, speed was deff no issue from my perspective, or line, just the sight line of the eye should have been around the corner. Certainly I have done similer in the past, but not in leaving the road. A good lesson learnt, though not in the best possible environment, would have been ah-la ouchy hurtys had a car been hauling the other direction.

Ya gott give the Big "D" credit folks, he owns a mighty Guzzi:2thumbsup, and in post wording he makes Tarrantino almost a saint. I get where he is coming from. Dont for gods sake take it to heart.:spanking:
Have been on a few rides with the D, and to be honest, without sounding all soppy and sooo, but ya sure get the feeling he cares about all those involved, hanging back frequently to check the number of riders to ensure no one has dropped off.

A great saying that my boss throws is "Shit Happens----Suffering is optional"
So hence this is the internet:argh:, dont take anyhting personal,:calm: I would only take something personal, if it been in a PM or in person-face to face.

Starting a new thread for 08 is a good idea.:wari:

Lets have a great 08 Summer season, with some good mid week out and abouts!!!:scooter:

MyGSXF

22nd December 2007, 00:18

Overtook a car going down hill towards a corner. Heaps of clear space and got around easily. Speed got a bit high but not licence loosing, so was all good there

Wasn't there to see it.. but just from reading your post.. it sounds like you went into the corner waaay too hot!! :crazy:

Your bike will get about 75-80% of it's braking power from the FRONT brake!! :yes:

All your braking needs to be done BEFORE the corner. Along with gear selection. You need to be under slight positive throttle as you go around the corner, & then gently roll the throttle on as you hit the apex & can see OUT of the corner to the vanishing point.

You were very simply.. INCREDIBLY LUCKY NOT to have a vehicle coming the other way!!! The outcome, VERY easily could have been VERY different!!! :shit:

If ya screw up a corner, ya just gotta COMMITT to it.. LOOK up & look further.. & counter steer harder to get you around the corner. :yes:

A few notes I put up from a couple of Roadsafe courses I did..

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=790956&postcount=5

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1241917&postcount=26

Hope this helps! :niceone:

Jen :rockon:

Rashika

22nd December 2007, 06:59

Guys, don't worry about dangerous. Seriously. He means well, just arses up in the delivery is all, makes it sound like he's trying to start a war. None of us want crashes to happen either, so we're all on the same side.... he just gets a bit more passionate (that's what you said D :bleh:) about it online.

yeah thats his problem at times, just aint really that good at verbally getting his point across, not to mention his lousy spelling. Doesn't wanna start at war but does wanna make sure the less experienced guys survive to be experienced. And yep Passion is the right word DE.

Shite I read every no... when the wife gets a no response from me for everything she says... I am going to blame this very post!!!!!!!:blink:

sorry ya old guzzi rider... was just testing to see who does read these things ;)

Ya gott give the Big "D" credit folks, he owns a mighty Guzzi:2thumbsup, and in post wording he makes Tarrantino almost a saint. I get where he is coming from. Dont for gods sake take it to heart.:spanking:
Have been on a few rides with the D, and to be honest, without sounding all soppy and sooo, but ya sure get the feleing he cares about all those involved, hanging back frequently to check the number of riders to ensure no one has dropped off.

D is really good on the longer rides, exactly as GB has said, and maybe is worried we will end up like the northys, all rushing to get somewhere and hurting ourselves or worse in the process. I know you guys are listening, but going back and forth with the bull just gets backs up so lets just start fresh this new year huh?
Accept that D will be a grumpy arse and treat him like ya grandad! And he'll accept that we are all young whippersnappers that need a kick up the ole backside every so often... oh yeah he does the same to me too, bloody arse that he is :bleh:

Excellant points there too MyGSXF!

I think these rides are just a bit too short for most of us to really get there and enjoy. I love riding but cos I work so early, evening week rides are difficult for me to do and I hate to feel rushed. Maybe there are others with the same problems. I'll still try to get to some, esp over the hols (YEEHAAAAAAAAA its hols time... I know I've already said it, but its the biggest break I have had since forever!)

So you'all have a great xmas if I dont catch you somewhere on the road

scumdog

22nd December 2007, 07:24

scumdog

22nd December 2007, 07:32

Spuds1234

22nd December 2007, 08:25

Wasn't there to see it.. but just from reading your post.. it sounds like you went into the corner waaay too hot!! :crazy:

Your bike will get about 75-80% of it's braking power from the FRONT brake!! :yes:

All your braking needs to be done BEFORE the corner. Along with gear selection. You need to be under slight positive throttle as you go around the corner, & then gently roll the throttle on as you hit the apex & can see OUT of the corner to the vanishing point.

You were very simply.. INCREDIBLY LUCKY NOT to have a vehicle coming the other way!!! The outcome, VERY easily could have been VERY different!!! :shit:

If ya screw up a corner, ya just gotta COMMITT to it.. LOOK up & look further.. & counter steer harder to get you around the corner. :yes:

A few notes I put up from a couple of Roadsafe courses I did..

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=790956&postcount=5

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1241917&postcount=26

Hope this helps! :niceone:

Jen :rockon:

Wasnt way to hot. Just got hung up on seeing the curve come up so quick and couldnt tear my eyes away from looking straight ahead and ended up going straight ahead.

My problem was not going to fast into the corner, it was the inability to take the corner because I was looking in the wrong direction.

It all sounds like a right cluster-fuck (preventable) to me.:yes:

Hopefully not to be repeated.

It was and no it wont happen again as I am now more than ever aware of where I need to be looking.

Basically this whole accident has highlighted a lack of practice in a certain area (makes me wonder about other areas aswell) which will be rectified over the next 4 days.

T.W.R

22nd December 2007, 08:39

:lol: D stirring up people again :rolleyes:

Some of the younger riders here should sit up and take heed of things that D says even if the spelling and the tone seem a bit off now & then. D's intentions are seated in the best manner willing the best result to eventuate.

On the long haul ride D would be the best road captain to have :niceone: never thinking of himself but considering the whole group over the entire ride to where ever it may be.

time and experience create a powerful knowledge base for events & situations that may take place on the road. it doesn't happen over night and never stops happening but knowledge gained holds you in good steed for new events & circumstances. Something newer & younger riders fail to comprehend sometimes.

Some here should actually listen to their own quotes especially when they're blatantly showing disrespect for things they've supposedly meant to have learnt doing courses on how to be competent & safe riders.

Road craft is something that doesn't come easily but it can be achieved and it's something that never stops growing, some people can grasp it and learn and then there are some riders who think they know the fundamentals but in reality haven't got a clue.

NiggleC

22nd December 2007, 08:48

I have done a few of these rides now. At 47 (just!!) i have never had the misfortune to lose a friend through a motorcycle accident but have experinced the trauma of being one of the first on the scene of a fatal car vs truck about 28 years ago. its engraved in my memory right up there with the traumatic birth of my daughter and her life and death struggle for the next 2 years. (shes now a happy and healthy 10yrs old). my opinion is that Dangerous (who i have never met until this year) is only concerned for the welfare of the less experienced amongst us. he doesn't need to hear about another accident where someone he knows however slightly has been hurt (though none was on wednesday night) so he is avoiding these rides to protect himself and fair enough. i had the same thoughts on the way home from Wednesday ride. You just get to an age where you cannot be bothered with this sort of stuff. But i will still continue to attend when work/family life permits because its a good mid week outing and a few weeks ago a learnt something from Dangerous while riding in a slow group with Casualty and Helen OT that has totally changed the way i ride for the better and i need to practise. And please remember that i have owned a bike everyday for the last 31 years.

200BUSA

22nd December 2007, 09:17

History: I have had 35 years riding,started on dirt bikes,then moved to road bike-i have had 80 bikes over the years,a bit of track riding in the early eighties.Loved going out to the drags for a bit of fun.
Now i respect Dangerous and some of the more experienced riders for what they are trying to get across to the other riders regarding safe riding.But this thread is turning into a load of BS and getting boring.So get back on track dealing with the rides.And do your talks at the destination and if you have some advice tell the one who needs it then- before anything bad happens on the ride.Everyone will learn at there own pace so give them time to watch and learn.These rides should be fun for everyone and a learning experience so why is there so much bickering-just get out there and ride safe.
Hope everyone has a great holiday-be careful on the roads.And no drink driving.Cheers.

Deviant Esq

22nd December 2007, 12:53

:lol: D stirring up people again :rolleyes:
:yes:
Nothing unusual, heh...

Well put Mr 200BUSA, sounds about right to me.

When are you coming along, Mr. T.W.R? You've still got my wrench too ya bugger! :bleh:

I went for an interesting ride this morning.... not on my own bike, too!!

Curious? Here's what I did... (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=1351702#post1351702)

karla

22nd December 2007, 13:53

Basically this whole accident has highlighted a lack of practice in a certain area (makes me wonder about other areas aswell) which will be rectified over the next 4 days.

I'm hoping to be practicing for the next 40 years :-)

Just back in from getting some more miles under my belt - thanks to Chromed Knuckles crew. It was a lovely day to be out cruising ~ turned the heads of quite a few kids on the streets with our decorated bikes. Santa on a sleigh will probably never quite do it for them anymore. Santa hats with flashing lights, a red cape blowing in the wind, an long white beard and a tuft of red hanging out under a leather jacket ... looked pretty damned good to me!

After a lovely cruise out to Sumner and over the Port Hills to Wheatshaff, a couple of games of pool, and a bit of a blowout back into the city, tackling idiots in 4WD's along the way - what better way to spend a Saturday morning. We parted company (abruptly) after our last stop at the Clock Tower - sorry guys - I forgot to say goodbye - and thanks! Hope to get out with you all again soon.

phoenixgtr

22nd December 2007, 17:28

...this thread is turning into a load of BS and getting boring. So get back on track dealing with the rides. And do your talks at the destination and if you have some advice tell the one who needs it then- before anything bad happens on the ride..

Exactly my thoughts mate. I think it's time we left this thread behind us and I'll start a new one for the 08 season. A BS free thread (hopefully).

I'll post up a link on here when I've set it up and we'll be away laughing.

The last thing I want is for someone to have a serious crash and as long as everyone rides responsibly that shouldn't happen. Trouble is, as Deviant said, you can't control someone else. I enjoy these mid week rides and some sure there are plenty others who do too. There's no reason why they should stop. We just need to all take responsiblility for our own riding. This includes me. I've done some stupid things in the past while riding and I've learnt from them. I'll admit I'm pretty inexperienced - just over 2 years riding, but unfortunately I already know what it's like to lose a friend in a bike crash and I've witnessed a couple of pretty serious crashes. Pretty sad really.

Right, lets start from scratch shall we?

phoenixgtr

22nd December 2007, 18:52

Right people, heres the 2008 thread: Chch Wednesday Evening Cruises (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=1352059#post1352059)

If i've forgotten anything please let me know

RIP to this thread :spudwave:

Deviant Esq

22nd December 2007, 19:00

RIP to this thread :spudwave:
Oh dear, how sad, never mind ;)

Let's try to keep the shiny new thread on topic and drivel free, I reckon. Time to move forward. :)

dangerous

22nd December 2007, 19:00

RIP to this thread :spudwave:
Ahhh... guys, I'm still here :beer:

And Ill be here in 08 aswell... waaaaahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

chanceyy

24th December 2007, 14:09

yeah thats his problem at times, just aint really that good at verbally getting his point across, not to mention his lousy spelling. Doesn't wanna start at war but does wanna make sure the less experienced guys survive to be experienced. And yep Passion is the right word DE.

D is really good on the longer rides, exactly as GB has said, and maybe is worried we will end up like the northys, all rushing to get somewhere and hurting ourselves or worse in the process. I know you guys are listening, but going back and forth with the bull just gets backs up so lets just start fresh this new year huh?
Accept that D will be a grumpy arse and treat him like ya grandad! And he'll accept that we are all young whippersnappers that need a kick up the ole backside every so often... oh yeah he does the same to me too, bloody arse that he is :bleh:

really well posted Rashika .. after riding with you guys & knowing both you & Darryl followed me for a bit to check out my riding ability, I know you guys really have the riders best interests at heart.

When ppl are very passionate about a subject sometimes the delivery of that can be mis-interpreted, however there is never any joy when you can say I told you so as that means someone has been badly hurt or worse dead .. & what would be even worse is if someone see something dangerous & decides not to speak up, then a tragedy happens

on ya dangerous, although talking to someone face to face is much easier than the way you type as you can take in body language & there is less room for mis understanding the intent behind the typed word or the intent in the way it was written in the first place

scumdog

24th December 2007, 21:56

I gotta agree with chancey - D (&R!) are great people, I trust his judgement implicitly and in fact am pissed off I haven't had him follow me for a few km to cast judgement on my riding style and ability. (One day, one day).

He in return has been good enough to trust me with his steed (Guzzi) - even if I was wearing tassles, all without actually watching my riding that much at all.

Anyway, enough from me, don't want to give opportunity to be occused of brown-nosing from me, a merry Xmas to all - even the loser dicks, just fro one day.

Sparrow_1982

25th December 2007, 06:26

Hey guys just thought i'd pop in to say hi, havent been on in a while now haha, anyways Merry christmas all, have a happy New Year, and take it easy, Keep an eye out for those cops that do U turns infront of motorbikes huh:Police::stupid: oh and the tourists in their Campervans :doctor: Anyways enough bout that, Lookin forward to the new year and hopefully getting back on a bike once rehab all finished, been put off work till mid feb at this stage, docs still dont know if i will be able to return then even, but my arms outa cast now wahoo, just gotta learn how to bend it again haha