BFTP - Blast From The Past Rides

[caseye]

We sure have! I'm betting we will again too but for now I'm with psy, not today! Wickle, Friday Flash, this morning dawned cold and miserable, very cold! some rain but the wind has ice in it.Have a go for the 30th , it'd be good to have you guys up with us, course theres a chance with such a long lead in that there may be others from down the line who'd like to come.
if so please let us up here know and we will I'm sure be glad to arrange garaging and sleeping venues.
Just looked outside again, Br,rrrrr.

[flyingcrocodile46]

...and as my wife keeps reminding me...it is all about me.......


LMFAO :clap:

[cmoore]

thats good for me, looking forward to the ride!...having been to two BFTP rides and having only met caseye...both times....I have been wondering if there is anyone else!!

[flyingcrocodile46]

Hey Caseye. The calendar entry has the date as 30th June???

[fridayflash]

no worries guys..we'll definately look towards the 30th august,
keenaz! weather not that flash down here today either, not cold just
wet so might just stay in and browse kb and watch a dvd...'quiet earth'
bit of an oldie, bruno lawrence r.i.p.

[psyguy]

...having been to two BFTP rides and having only met caseye...both times....I have been wondering if there is anyone else!!

lol, that's funny, snake. you know, caseye is the only real-world rider, the rest of us just lurke here in the virtual reality :msn-wink:

but now that bruno has brakes again and i have some decent ride gear it's time we lift up our game... :clap:

right, croc?
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[flyingcrocodile46]

:niceone: Yeah! Me, my new jacket and newly painted front wheel are rearing to hit the garden bar circuit :apint:

[caseye]

Oh Crap, here we go again! Lattees every five minutes can't get these buggers to a real Pub no how!I've changed the calendar Croc, cheers for that.
Friday Flash, Wickle, we'd love to have you and as many others as want to come up.

[Dodgyiti]

...and as my wife keeps reminding me...it is all about me.......

She's a keeper, that one.:niceone:


Yeah caseye is our one and only token hard core mo'fo!

Maybe now I gots a Yammaha I can harden up too :rolleyes:

[wickle]

Oh Crap, here we go again! Lattees every five minutes can't get these buggers to a real Pub no how!I've changed the calendar Croc, cheers for that.
Friday Flash, Wickle, we'd love to have you and as many others as want to come up.
Cafe' Hoppers?

[flyingcrocodile46]

Cafe' Hoppers?

Motomail has a coffee shop with really nice muffins and you can try on motorcycle clothes while you wait for your latte and talk about motorcycle web sites.:p.. we's soffisticutted up here in Akld. :yeah:


New calendar link http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=2071&day=2009-8-30

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[Max Headroom]

Motomail has a coffee shop with really nice muffins and you can try on motorcycle clothes while you wait for your latte and talk about motorcycle web sites.:p.. we's soffisticutted up here in Akld. :yeah:
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This from the guy who rejects licorice tea . . . . :bleh:

[wickle]

This from the guy who rejects licorice tea . . . . :bleh:
Would I be running from this?

[flyingcrocodile46]

Could make it a :sick: passage of rite to drink a cup at the halfway point of each ride.

A bonding thing... in a queer sort of way;)

[Max Headroom]

Yeah, those who survive . . . . get to have lunch!

[Dieseldick]

Could make it a :sick: passage of rite to drink a cup at the halfway point of each ride.

A bonding thing... in a queer sort of way;)

Not sure about this bonding thing you speak of Flyingcroc.:shifty:

Sad about the weather on Sunday, but good news for me. I should be able to travel north with the other Napierites, for the 30th Aug. Sounds like Wickle and Fridayflash have committed to this date too. All's good.

[caseye]

Alrighty then!So the Npierites are a coming up cool.
Dieseldick, you really have to have had a cup of Max Headroom's Licorice tea before you could even begin to understand th meaning behind the right of passage statement.
Ol Croc looked pretty green after that beverage, but he did swalla it!
Nick no offence mean't or intended mate.
It was most appreciated at the time and got us both safely back to civilisation.
Na I don't think we should make it mandatory Croc.Optional maybe, for those brave hearted souls.
Damn fine sipping licorice it was an all, in my humble opinion.
Looking forward to seeing a lot of names on that ride thread folks.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Not sure about this bonding thing you speak of Flyingcroc.:shifty:

Sad about the weather on Sunday, but good news for me. I should be able to travel north with the other Napierites, for the 30th Aug. Sounds like Wickle and Fridayflash have committed to this date too. All's good.

Heh! Nice to see you on board. Hope the FIA is ok.

The licorice tea is a must try. It ain't actually a bad taste but sure is interesting :whistle:

You might want to check out the BFTP social group and ride day sign up pages

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/group.php?groupid=110

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=2071&day=2009-8-30

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[Max Headroom]

Dieseldick, you really have to have had a cup of Max Headroom's Licorice tea before you could even begin to understand th meaning behind the right of passage statement.
Ol Croc looked pretty green after that beverage, but he did swalla it!
Nick no offence mean't or intended mate.
It was most appreciated at the time and got us both safely back to civilisation.
Na I don't think we should make it mandatory Croc.Optional maybe, for those brave hearted souls.
Damn fine sipping licorice it was an all, in my humble opinion.
Looking forward to seeing a lot of names on that ride thread folks.

It's ok, Caseye. :laugh: No offence taken!

May see you good folk on the revised date . . . .

[fridayflash]

lookin forward to the revised date men! and hoping the "closer to spring"
weather will be a bit warmer- (less ice on napier/taupo rd) in which case
well leave the van behind:wari:

[cmoore]

All this talk of coffee, tea and muffins....seems a far cry from the old days...maybe we need to change our bikes to cafe racers...instead of grog sloggers...mind you i took the bike for a run up to the Puhoi pub...and the wind on that new motorway was wild......needed a hot drink when i got there!!

[wickle]

All this talk of coffee, tea and muffins....seems a far cry from the old days...maybe we need to change our bikes to cafe racers...instead of grog sloggers...mind you i took the bike for a run up to the Puhoi pub...and the wind on that new motorway was wild......needed a hot drink when i got there!!
Pub runs were fun, some of bikes outside Ongaonga Pub in old days!

[Dodgyiti]

...maybe we need to change our bikes to cafe racers...

haha, I do it to every damn bike I own:headbang:

I'm a Milk Bar Cowboy, taking it straight from the teat, mmm teat..:drool:

[Dieseldick]

Alrighty then!So the Npierites are a coming up cool.
Dieseldick, you really have to have had a cup of Max Headroom's Licorice tea before you could even begin to understand th meaning behind the right of passage statement.
Ol Croc looked pretty green after that beverage, but he did swalla it!
Nick no offence mean't or intended mate.
It was most appreciated at the time and got us both safely back to civilisation.
Na I don't think we should make it mandatory Croc.Optional maybe, for those brave hearted souls.
Damn fine sipping licorice it was an all, in my humble opinion.
Looking forward to seeing a lot of names on that ride thread folks.

Caseye, I'm not knocking the licorice tea. I like licorice, but I'm not sure what it will do to the taste of my beer.

I was more concerned by Croc's reference to "bonding, in a queer sort of way". :shit:

Hey, looking forward to meeting you lot too.

[flyingcrocodile46]

haha, I do it to every damn bike I own:headbang:

I'm a Milk Bar Cowboy, taking it straight from the teat, mmm teat..:drool:

Speaking of bikes falling off platforms :bleh: After seeing your platform I had to get one for the sake of my knees and back... I'm gonna be able to zip around the sucker in a comfy 'chair on wheels' while I think of other excuses to be lazy :lol:
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/picture.php?albumid=2146&pictureid=27769




I was more concerned by Croc's reference to "bonding, in a queer sort of way" :) :chase: :) Hey, looking forward to meeting you lot too :chase:

Concerned eh? Dont you worry.. the tea will sort that out :cool:

[psyguy]

Speaking of bikes falling off platforms :bleh:

where the hell did you hear about that?? :innocent: :laugh:

[caseye]

LOL hey Dodgyiti did Croc tell you about his Great Tardme buy??? he he he . Turns out it was too short..Op's he hadn[t told ya aye, i'll be in hiding for oh a year or two.
psy, there something we should know???
sounds like.

[tate35]

Pub runs were fun, some of bikes outside Ongaonga Pub in old days!

Good photo Wickle....and OngaOnga had a pub? :wari:

[flyingcrocodile46]

LOL hey Dodgyiti did Croc tell you about his Great Tardme buy??? he he he . Turns out it was too short..Op's he hadn[t told ya aye, i'll be in hiding for oh a year or two.
psy, there something we should know???
sounds like.

Turns out that the 800lb shorter fixed platform with the hinged (but supportable ramp) works as well as the longer 1000lb one.:bleh: If you want clearance to drop the whole front end off, you back her up, jack her up, clamp the rear wheel, remove the hinged ramp then a couple of bolts from the triple tree and Hey Presto!.. the front end falls off and breaks yer toe :shutup: But!.. she's all in one peice rather than a dozen, so you can pop it back in nice and easy after yer've replaced Psyguy's steering bearings:laugh:.
or front end in and wheel raised off the hinged ramp section means no load on it, or chuck a jack under the hinged ramp section and she's all solid and can be loaded ok.

[edit] just looked again and see a way to install a couple of sliding rails to support the hinged ramp back to the main rails

The important thing to remember is, not to use the side stand to hold the bike upright on the platform unless you are a very heavy sleeper :laugh:

[wickle]

Good photo Wickle....and OngaOnga had a pub? :wari:
still has, get on that bike and we will go there, south of one of Fridayflash's shortcuts

[psyguy]

after yer've replaced Psyguy's steering bearings:laugh:

for those not in the loop... bruno failed wof on the steering head bearings the other day :mad:
the same shop that few months ago advised me the front end was a tad bit loose and i needed to tighten the steering head (which i did) now says it's too tight. wtf? :blink:



psy, there something we should know???
sounds like.

dunno... maybe ask dodgyiti?
i vaguely recall him saying something about bikes falling off the stands :shit:

[flyingcrocodile46]

for those not in the loop... bruno failed wof on the steering head bearings the other day :mad:
the same shop that few months ago advised me the front end was a tad bit loose and i needed to tighten the steering head (which i did) now says it's too tight. wtf? :blink:




dunno... maybe ask dodgyiti?
i vaguely recall him saying something about bikes falling off the stands :shit:

Gee I hope that wasn't one of those professional confidentiality things :gob::shutup:

[Dodgyiti]

Didn't fall off the stand, it tried to commit suicide!
:shutup:

[flyingcrocodile46]

Didn't fall off the stand, it tried to commit suicide!
:shutup:

Those highly strung european types are high maintenance eh :laugh:

[caseye]

LOL So! deer was a storie! Was it the Guzi? Please don't tell me the jam jar tried to commit stand sideways!
So Croc did you stick with the shoirter one?
psy, take Bruno back to those guys and stand there while they adjust the steering head to perfection, then dont pay the mongrels.
Anyone up fort a cruise this weekend, either Sat arvo or Sunday, weather permitting of course.

[tate35]

Does it? OngaOnga? I know the tearooms but pub? Get out of town lol:shit:

[flyingcrocodile46]

So Croc did you stick with the shoirter one?

Anyone up fort a cruise this weekend, either Sat arvo or Sunday, weather permitting of course.


Aye! $400. :wari:

No can do ride this weekend.. off playing tourist

[psyguy]

Anyone up fort a cruise this weekend, either Sat arvo or Sunday, weather permitting of course.

likely to rain through the weekend, again :sick: - but i'm keen if dry

[Dodgyiti]

likely to rain through the weekend, again :sick: - but i'm keen if dry

You'll be sweet mate, try these:

http://www.staydryproducts.com/

I am setting my sights high and saying that I will finish the 2 year battle with my Mk1 and take that on the next ride.. all going well, that is.

[psyguy]

You'll be sweet mate, try these:

http://www.staydryproducts.com/




now, how does one come across a site like that, dodgyiti???

certainly NOT by accident :p

[fridayflash]

You'll be sweet mate, try these:

http://www.staydryproducts.com/

I am setting my sights high and saying that I will finish the 2 year battle with my Mk1 and take that on the next ride.. all going well, that is.

Hmmmmm, pretty competitive prices too...:shake: hehe

[flyingcrocodile46]

You'll be sweet mate, try these:

http://www.staydryproducts.com/


BWUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA



You'll be sweet mate, try these:
I am setting my sights high and saying that I will finish the 2 year battle with my Mk1 and take that on the next ride.. all going well, that is.

That WOULD BE cool. :yes:

[caseye]

B Great to see her amte, try hard OK.

[wickle]

Good photo Wickle....and OngaOnga had a pub? :wari:
its still there so get that bike out and you can buy me lunch!

[wickle]

Suzuki suzuki gsx1100ex 1981 Closes: Sat 18 Jul 9:56 pm (#230461704)
MATE!! What a blast from the past. I remember these bikes well. Drulled over them back in the 80's when I couldn't afford one. Have found myself in a position where I have just recently bought an 83 750 Katana. GOD if I had the money!!!!!!! Nice machine dude. conawana (44 )

Above listing on Trademe anyone got 0% interest rates blown me budjet at present

[flyingcrocodile46]

Suzuki suzuki gsx1100ex 1981 Closes: Sat 18 Jul 9:56 pm (#230461704)
MATE!! What a blast from the past. I remember these bikes well. Drulled over them back in the 80's when I couldn't afford one. Have found myself in a position where I have just recently bought an 83 750 Katana. GOD if I had the money!!!!!!! Nice machine dude. conawana (44 )

Above listing on Trademe anyone got 0% interest rates blown me budjet at present


:gob: :shutup: :bash: :shutup::shutup:

[flyingcrocodile46]

Hey there Wickle, Friday Flash and Diesel Dick.

Check out our BFTP patch thread and let us know what ya'll think of starting your own local BFTP ride days as part of the BFTP social group.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/group.php?do=discuss&discussionid=647&pp=15&page=3

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[wickle]

Hey there Wickle, Friday Flash and Diesel Dick.

Check out our BFTP patch thread and let us know what ya'll think of starting your own local BFTP ride days as part of the BFTP social group.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/group.php?do=discuss&discussionid=647&pp=15&page=3

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same comment as I put on other part can I sew it onto a jacket... yes I'M in.

[wickle]

ps . if all goes well and recording works then I edit properly hope to post vid of Classic Club lunch ride tomorrow(Champane breakfast demed to early) please note avatar as to my computer abilitis(spelling)hic

[Dodgyiti]

What a friggin bargin that Suzuki was!!
I even would have pushed buy-now if I had seen it soon enough.
What an easy resto on a fast appreciating fast classic bike.

Used to get a double to work (circa 1987- impoverished apprentice) on the back of one of those in original poo brown, and so was my Y-fronts some days. Remember going over the harbour bridge at well over the ton 2-up and the front lifting at the peak of the bridge.
:headbang:

[psyguy]

if the weather cooperates i'll post for a ride this coming weekend, 25/26 july.
i'll have a look at the forecast on thursday eve and make a calendar entry then.

[wickle]

Hawkes Bay riders got out on Sunday with the Classic Club ( no vid as camera played up,(flat batteries) approx forty odd diff bikes went for casual ride for about a hour returning to Club for lunch.
four beautiful Suzuki's looked fantastic lined up, Garry's 850, Diesel Dick's 850. my 750, Fridayflash's 750. extra photo of club memebers waiting.

[StatusQuo]

Hey Croc,

I believe i saw you filtering along the Northern today near Sunset inbound? If not then theres another very tidy GS1100G around same colour/s. I would have caught up but the commode isnt good a lane splitting (lacks lights and a siren).

TW

[flyingcrocodile46]

Hawkes Bay riders got out on Sunday with the Classic Club ( no vid as camera played up,(flat batteries) approx forty odd diff bikes went for casual ride for about a hour returning to Club for lunch.
four beautiful Suzuki's looked fantastic lined up, Garry's 850, Diesel Dick's 850. my 750, Fridayflash's 750.


Now that is a photo worth taking :drool:



Hey Croc,

I believe i saw you filtering along the Northern today near Sunset inbound? If not then theres another very tidy GS1100G around same colour/s. I would have caught up but the commode isnt good a lane splitting (lacks lights and a siren).

TW

Yeah mate, that was me... nice and slow on the wet seal in case some dickwad decided to cut me off. Have you got your carbs sorted out yet?

[psyguy]

four beautiful Suzuki's looked fantastic lined up, Garry's 850, Diesel Dick's 850. my 750, Fridayflash's 750.

fantastic photo, wickle!

looking forward to adding a few of the bftp gs's to the picture one day :cool:

[flyingcrocodile46]

Lookie what I just won on tardme for $1
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=229963544

[psyguy]

worth every cent, croc!

what is it off? a gk?

[wickle]

Lookie what I just won on tardme for $1
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=229963544
I forgot I had that saved, would be a laugh bidding againist u and winning then asking one of u to pickup and hold till I got up there.

[Dieseldick]

I forgot I had that saved, would be a laugh bidding againist u and winning then asking one of u to pickup and hold till I got up there.

You've got to stop that compulsive buying Wickle, you'll run out of storage.:nono:

Nice pics of the GS's at the Sunday ride. Looks like we'll have them all travelling north in August!

[flyingcrocodile46]

worth every cent, croc!

what is it off? a gk?

The Auction stated GS but Yeah! I reckon most likely a GK, not convinced it will suit but couldn't pass it up.

[wickle]

The Auction stated GS but Yeah! I reckon most likely a GK, not convinced it will suit but couldn't pass it up.
not at that price, cost you more in petrol to go and get it!

[flyingcrocodile46]

You've got to stop that compulsive buying Wickle, you'll run out of storage.:nono:

Nice pics of the GS's at the Sunday ride. Looks like we'll have them all travelling north in August!


We are going to have us a real good weekend. I am so looking forward to it. :first:

[tate35]

Good photo Wickle of the suzuki's all lined up...and the Hawkes Bay put on yet another beautiful day for the ride...good day :)

[caseye]

You guys got room for, oh I dunno a couple a hundy Dorklander riders to come stay with you?
No I mean permanent like, weather up here is Shiete all the damn time.Great Old Zuk's, I had a terrific old GS 850 G beat the pants off of most things.

[tate35]

You guys got room for, oh I dunno a couple a hundy Dorklander riders to come stay with you?
No I mean permanent like, weather up here is Shiete all the damn time.

LOL Hi Caseye, I moved from Auckland to the Hawkes Bay 3 years ago now but up until then I must admit I actually thought the whole of NZ was like Auck's weather wise lol. But, to be fair and not be too unkind...Auckland can throw some pretty fantastic sunny days itself :2thumbsup

[psyguy]

Nice pics of the GS's at the Sunday ride. Looks like we'll have them all travelling north in August!

we'd have to have an exclusive gs photo shoot :drool: and post it on the gsresources website!

[Dieseldick]

You guys got room for, oh I dunno a couple a hundy Dorklander riders to come stay with you?
No I mean permanent like, weather up here is Shiete all the damn time.Great Old Zuk's, I had a terrific old GS 850 G beat the pants off of most things.

Gidday Caseye. I've got 2 sibblings and a son living in Dorkland, all with webbed feet. They don't need much provoking into visiting the bay.

Yeah, the 850's do give some the modern stuff a bit of a wake up at times.
They've sleepers, with the classic old school looks.

[Dieseldick]

we'd have to have an exclusive gs photo shoot :drool: and post it on the gsresources website!

Good move Psy, we could even invite the Aussies to the HB gathering later in the year. :cool:

[caseye]

Right back atcha there Dieseldick, an tate, sunny is one thing but wind and humidity are totally another, looking forward to the end of August guys.

[wickle]

Garry just rung hes got the time of for August so that makes four from the Bay.

[psyguy]

Garry just rung hes got the time of for August so that makes four from the Bay.

i think i can safely say the zooks are likely to dominate the anniversary ride :devil2:

[wickle]

i think i can safely say the zooks are likely to dominate the anniversary ride :devil2:
cool big photo session, fridayflash knows of a site o/seas to post it on

[fridayflash]

whats that wicksy? gsresources?

[fridayflash]

i think i can safely say the zooks are likely to dominate the anniversary ride :devil2:

so i wont be taking the gb500 then?:nono:

[wickle]

na I sold it!

[wickle]

whats that wicksy? gsresources?
No that one you were going to put a photo on from when I took outside Patangta

[Dodgyiti]

i think i can safely say the zooks are likely to dominate the anniversary ride :devil2:

I could make a few phonecalls and prove you wrong, but look what happened last time...
:blank:


Colin- are you collecting fairings at the moment? What the hell are you going to do with that enormous 'thing' ?
I would have paid you double that just to get it off the section so I dont have to mow around it.
:chase:

[Dodgyiti]

so i wont be taking the gb500 then?:nono:

Let me know if you do, I will take my SRX and keep you company... if my project is not sorted and road tested by then

wickle- great pic!

[flyingcrocodile46]

Colin- are you collecting fairings at the moment? What the hell are you going to do with that enormous 'thing' ?
I would have paid you double that just to get it off the section so I dont have to mow around it.
:chase:

BWUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :Oi::Playnice:

[Dodgyiti]

BWUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :Oi::Playnice:

Sorry mate, it just looks like something off CHiPs sitting on the ground like that, I'm sure it looks lovely on the bike.

[psyguy]

I could make a few phonecalls and prove you wrong, but look what happened last time...
:blank:




i would't mind being proven wrong. if you're talking about period-correct bikes, that is. <_<

[Dodgyiti]

Any Guzzi made between 1976 and 1992 is period correct, they did not actually change anything from the basic bike they started with, just kept punching it out but still the same bike, same frame, same 18' wheels. And then wondered why no one was buying them any more.:rolleyes: and nearly went out of business- a mirror of the British bike industry but with longer lunch breaks and vino.


I might bring one other along, I have ridden with him before and he is fine, his bike's a 1980...

[cmoore]

sounds like my XS650......the basic motor never changed in the 20 odd years it was in production...which is good for parts but bad because people keep chopping them around and it is hard to find one with the original motor in the original frame...

[Max Headroom]

I might bring one other along, I have ridden with him before and he is fine, his bike's a 1980...

WARNING!!! WARNING!!!:devil2:


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[Dieseldick]

Sorry mate, it just looks like something off CHiPs sitting on the ground like that, I'm sure it looks lovely on the bike.

He's got too much surplus power, so he's trying to weigh it down. Just buy a GK and be done with it!

[flyingcrocodile46]

He's got too much surplus power, so he's trying to weigh it down. Just buy a GK and be done with it!

Nah mate! I'm going to install the GK fairing on the front and I have a Guzzi fairing to face backward at the other end... should look pretty natural I reckon :yes:

[StatusQuo]

Now that is a photo worth taking :drool:




Yeah mate, that was me... nice and slow on the wet seal in case some dickwad decided to cut me off. Have you got your carbs sorted out yet?


Yes they seem OK now -upped the main jet size and reverted back to std airbox/filter. The carbs are VM30SS on a later head (std VM26SS) - had a few frustrations getting them sorted. Still has a flat spot mid range then chimes in like a vacuum secondary. C ya

[psyguy]

Still has a flat spot mid range then chimes in like a vacuum secondary.

did you try playing with the jet needle?
maybe a larger pilot jet may be in order, too - usa bikes came set very lean on gas from the factory.

[Dodgyiti]

It's been freezing, damp and difficult in the shed the last week.
But progress has been made.
On target for the BTPR ride 30th.
Starting to actually look like a motorcycle now.
Some issues to sort and I am getting a mobile auto sparky in the next few days to hook up the main loom to the switchgear and instruments. I gave up with old school Guzzi switchgear, it was crap back then and is still crap now- no matter what I try and do to it. I have both switch blocks from a 1991 LeMans that will end up on the finished bike. The switchs are black with orangey-red buttons, so they might look alright with the red/black paint job. Unfortunately they do not look 'period' which I am bummed about, better than breaking down or not being able to start it I guess.

I have not kept track of my hours on this build, but just the carbs took 11 hours this week to strip, reco and fully polish :drool:

And another 5 hours making the exhaust parts that never showed up with my "full system"
It's nice and the meki period race system, but 8 months waiting, cash up front, and the waiting, the waiting... Bloody Italians :angry:

[flyingcrocodile46]

Cool. Looking really cool. Go dodgydoggy

[psyguy]

looking good looking good dodgyiti :clap:

[flyingcrocodile46]

The Guzzi motor layout looks like a real power plant. My favorite motor layout for looks. Pity they can't or don't want to up the actual power cause the motor looks like it should be the gruntiest.

[caseye]

She's looking almost ready to rock and roll mate, very nicely put together so far, keep at it, we;re all looking forward to seeing her at the BFTP Anniversary ride on the 30th August.
Is that the Dodgy Suicide stand? lol.
Sorry couldn't help it, the he he got me!

[Dodgyiti]

The Guzzi motor layout looks like a real power plant. My favorite motor layout for looks. Pity they can't or don't want to up the actual power cause the motor looks like it should be the gruntiest.

Back in the day that there motor was considered pretty grunty.
It had some racing success, there was even 2 different straight cut clusters and a factory race kit (the exhaust on mine is part of that kit) for it.
Plus for the times, it went around corners and stopped pretty well too.
But I agree on the layout, like BMWs it suffers none of the cooling issues inherent with Ducati, HD and other air cooled V-twin configurations.
:dodge:

[psyguy]

if the weather cooperates i'll post for a ride this coming weekend, 25/26 july.
i'll have a look at the forecast on thursday eve and make a calendar entry then.

weather looking good for the weekend :woohoo:

[caseye]

Sunday might well be a go! ya.

[StatusQuo]

did you try playing with the jet needle?
maybe a larger pilot jet may be in order, too - usa bikes came set very lean on gas from the factory.

Yeah i thought about trying the jet needle in the next slot (to raise it) and also going larger on the pilots - i will eventually look at this aspect when i regain enthusiasm, just happy its running quite good and not fouling plugs now or running lean at higher revs.

[wickle]

weather looking good for the weekend :woohoo:
good luck. looks like going to be crap weekend here, still got to do motor transplant so that will keep me busy after work is finished,

[flyingcrocodile46]

Have fun with your transplant wickle. I just picked up my $1 GS GK fairing. Can't believe it, but it has exactly the same colour scheme right down to the pin stripes. F%^K it's ugly :lol:

[fridayflash]

that fairing was an absolute score flyncroc! and even correct colour eh,
i had a gs1100g in the same colur scheme as yours which i sold about 7yrs
ago..still miss it, monster power in the upper midrange- like a freaken
freight train! hehe. that fairing mightnt be pretty mate but itd me
nice to ride behind..especialy long distances etc

[flyingcrocodile46]

For sure... like hiding behind a bus:yes: Hey I might have your old G

[one fast tl1ooo]

Would like to get out on the old bike,
anyone down here in hawkes bay wanta start a hb bftp ride :yes:

[Dodgyiti]

Would like to get out on the old bike,
anyone down here in hawkes bay wanta start a hb bftp ride :yes:

I think you just offered :innocent:

[one fast tl1ooo]

I think you just offered :innocent:

year not prob, would be happy to set up a few bftp rides :rockon:

[flyingcrocodile46]

year not prob, would be happy to set up a few bftp rides :rockon:


You have 4 keen potential members in Napier (only a short ride from you) who are keen to start their own chapter of BFTP.

Talk to Wickle, Friday Flash and Dieseldick. There is another but I don't think he has joined the BFTP social group yet and I can't recall his name. They are all planing to come up to Akld for the ride on the 30th of August.. what about you??

Get it on :rockon:

[one fast tl1ooo]

You have 4 keen potential members in Napier (only a short ride from you) who are keen to start their own chapter of BFTP.

Talk to Wickle, Friday Flash and Dieseldick. There is another but I don't think he has joined the BFTP social group yet and I can't recall his name. They are all planing to come up to Akld for the ride on the 30th of August.. what about you??

Get it on :rockon:

yep i have been talkin to wickle,
Would like to make the ride

[psyguy]

year not prob, would be happy to set up a few bftp rides :rockon:

we sure will be sending some bftp stickers down your way, of course only upon a receipt of a photo-documentation :innocent:

hell, we may need to bring them down to you in person!
i know at least croc and caseye and cmoore would be up for a ride down there, maybe a few others, too :yes:

a glorious day up here in akl today, an looking good for tomorrow, too :sunny:

[one fast tl1ooo]

we sure will be sending some bftp stickers down your way, of course only upon a receipt of a photo-documentation :innocent:

hell, we may need to bring them down to you in person!
i know at least croc and caseye and cmoore would be up for a ride down there, maybe a few others, too :yes:

a glorious day up here in akl today, an looking good for tomorrow, too :sunny:

sweet as, i have got some good roads down here to play on 4 you
any time you want to just give me a pm, thanks

[Dodgyiti]

sweet as, i have got some good roads down here to play on 4 you
any time you want to just give me a pm, thanks

:Punk: Yeah, when summer is in full swing I would be into a guided ride down there, especially if the local knowlege extends to stopping somewhere with good coffee and tucker:yes:

Instead of some of the places I find myself at in new areas :sick:

[flyingcrocodile46]

we sure will be sending some bftp stickers down your way, of course only upon a receipt of a photo-documentation :innocent:

hell, we may need to bring them down to you in person!
i know at least croc and caseye and cmoore would be up for a ride down there, maybe a few others, too :yes:

a glorious day up here in akl today, an looking good for tomorrow, too :sunny:

Yup. I'll be in:scooter:

[caseye]

Me too, ride down friday night, play all day sat dee and then lesierly return ride Sundae.

[psyguy]

Me too, ride down friday night, play all day sat dee and then lesierly return ride Sundae.

bftp goes global! :Punk:

[Dodgyiti]

Weather looks good for today.


Random: If you search 'Blast From The Past' on TradeMe you get this:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-222651666.htm


Coincidence? I think not.:blink:


:scooter:

[wickle]

Weather looks good for today.


Random: If you search 'Blast From The Past' on TradeMe you get this:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-222651666.htm


Coincidence? I think not.:blink:


:scooter:
very nice! have a good ride today weather here's better than forecast so hopefully will get work on bike done easyly then take for a short blast

[flyingcrocodile46]

Wow! What a great day for a ride. Beautiful weather, minimal traffic and lots of bendy bits. Myself, Caseye, Psyguy, Dodgyiti and Status Quo took off from Westgate (except for Caseye who went to Albany for the Meet???) went up SH 16 and had a break at the lookout b4 Wellsford (where we took pics) then down to Warkworth and back across to SH16 (some of us got lost on the way to Hellensville:shutup:) then on to Shelly Beach where everyone but me ate (they missed my order) then back to our separate domiciles. Great day thanks guys.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/picture.php?albumid=2146&pictureid=28291

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/picture.php?albumid=2146&pictureid=28292

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/picture.php?albumid=2146&pictureid=28293

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/picture.php?albumid=2146&pictureid=28294

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/picture.php?albumid=2146&pictureid=28295

[psyguy]

........................

[Dieseldick]

You have 4 keen potential members in Napier (only a short ride from you) who are keen to start their own chapter of BFTP.

Talk to Wickle, Friday Flash and Dieseldick. There is another but I don't think he has joined the BFTP social group yet and I can't recall his name. They are all planing to come up to Akld for the ride on the 30th of August.. what about you??

Get it on :rockon:

Fast one tl1000, join us for our trek north. Are you thinking of bringing the Kat? That would make 5 from HB.

Would be good to do some local BFTP rides too. I'm only free the odd weekend at present. Been in Taupo this weekend, with the cage. Not much fun.

Those stickers look smart Croc. Keep them for sanctioned rides only.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Fast one tl1000, join us for our trek north. Are you thinking of bringing the Kat? That would make 5 from HB.

Would be good to do some local BFTP rides too. I'm only free the odd weekend at present. Been in Taupo this weekend, with the cage. Not much fun.

Those stickers look smart Croc. Keep them for sanctioned rides only.

We all think it's great you guys are going to set up regular rides as part of the little BFTP social group.

Imagine if little BFTP groups start springing up in multiple provinces :sunny: Think of the ride day possibilities :laugh::scooter: :Punk:

[fridayflash]

For sure... like hiding behind a bus:yes: Hey I might have your old G

could be croc...i sold it to a guy from waipawa (down this way) at that
time it was mint and original apart from satin black pipes and koni shocks

[flyingcrocodile46]

could be croc...i sold it to a guy from waipawa (down this way) at that
time it was mint and original apart from satin black pipes and koni shocks

Maybe not. My pipes and shocks are original. I'll have a look at the papers to be sure. I got the rego papers with one of the two I bought. The other (same paint colours and sequential engine and almost frame numbers) was too far gone to warrant restoration. Psy is going to use most of the engine, the frame and covers got binned and I have most of the rest left as questionable spares.

[fridayflash]

are you gunna run the 1100 donk in your 850 psy?
im on the look out for an 1100 motor (4valve) for my gsx.. or preferably
a whole gsx1100 with reg still in the system, but man theyre gettin
a bit rare and dear! lol

[psyguy]

are you gunna run the 1100 donk in your 850 psy?


that's the idea... if i can come up with enough good parts to make one good engine out of two basket cases :laugh:

[flyingcrocodile46]

that's the idea... if i can come up with enough good parts to make one good engine out of two basket cases :laugh:

Damn those are nice headers yer selling on tardme.:laugh:

[pete376403]

The Auction stated GS but Yeah! I reckon most likely a GK, not convinced it will suit but couldn't pass it up.

Thats a GK for sure. Did you get the mounting brackets with it? If not, and you want to try making some, I could lend you the brackets off my GK (Which is parked up waiting to be fitted with a sidecar. One day)

[pete376403]

that's the idea... if i can come up with enough good parts to make one good engine out of two basket cases :laugh:

I've got a GS1000L engine thats been take out to 1100 with MTC pistons. I bought a wreck with a view to using bits in my 1100. It never happened so if you or anyone else is after a motor its for sale. Partially dismantled but complete and running right up to the second it was crashed into the back of a parked car. Make an offer. Also have a few other 1000L parts (no frame, tank or exhausts)

[psyguy]

crashed into the back of a parked car.
:gob:

cant blame this one on the reckless cage driver...

[psyguy]

Also have a few other 1000L parts (no frame, tank or exhausts)

i know you don't have the exhaust :laugh:

ps. for those not in the loop - good mate pete donated the muflers to go on Bruno but i've been short on "time" ($$) to make the headers. but it WILL happen :shifty:

[wickle]

? ? got a couple of sets of headers/pipes but more GSX 750 plus one set 4/1 that came with gs1000.

[wickle]

:gob:

cant blame this one on the reckless cage driver...
Cage could have been incorrectly parked !

[wickle]

I've just listed some feul peacocks(taps) on Tardme pretty shore all of early Suzuki's , if anyone identifies what model could you PM me

[psyguy]

Cage could have been incorrectly parked !

i knew someone was going to come up with this one! :laugh:

[flyingcrocodile46]

Thats a GK for sure. Did you get the mounting brackets with it? If not, and you want to try making some, I could lend you the brackets off my GK (Which is parked up waiting to be fitted with a sidecar. One day)

Hey thanks Pete, that would be much appreciated as 'no', it is sans brackets and I have been patiently waiting for you to make the offer... along with checking the bar dimensions for fairing clearance :laugh:

[flyingcrocodile46]

I've just listed some feul peacocks(taps) on Tardme pretty shore all of early Suzuki's , if anyone identifies what model could you PM me

Shall I search under feul peacocks, fuel petcocks or taps? or do ya just wanna give us the link? :Pokey:

Oh yeah! while we are being nice and cuddly... do you happen to have a mint set of 4into2's???

[psyguy]

I've just listed some feul peacocks(taps) on Tardme pretty shore all of early Suzuki's , if anyone identifies what model could you PM me

not sure what you mean by early zooks, but only one of those taps seem to be off of a gs

[flyingcrocodile46]

I've just listed some feul peacocks(taps) on Tardme pretty shore all of early Suzuki's , if anyone identifies what model could you PM me

Right, found em under fuel peacock
of the 10 I don't recognise any, but most look pre-vacuum carbs so are most likely pre 80's or maybe off smaller cc bikes??? f%#K knows sorry

[wickle]

Shall I search under feul peacocks, fuel petcocks or taps? or do ya just wanna give us the link? :Pokey:

Oh yeah! while we are being nice and cuddly... do you happen to have a mint set of 4into2's???
they all came with some other stuff I sourced. mint pipes what you on! saw a price on Babbitts site in states bit to many $$$ than I could afford,

[wickle]

http://global.ebay.com/79_Suzuki_GS850_GS_850_exhaust_system_mufflers_hea ders/380142361904/item

just remembered this listing

[flyingcrocodile46]

http://global.ebay.com/79_Suzuki_GS850_GS_850_exhaust_system_mufflers_hea ders/380142361904/item

just remembered this listing

I just saw the shipping price and lost interest

Shipping costs: Calculating... Calculate US $252.75- New Zealand (Approximately $ 395.35)

[wickle]

I just saw the shipping price and lost interest

Shipping costs: Calculating... Calculate US $252.75- New Zealand (Approximately $ 395.35)
agree shipping cost usually kills the bargin, mind u just got some clutch plates for Garry , he was quoted $37-41 per plate locally landed 8 for him including frieght for $116-40

[psyguy]

he was quoted $37-41 per plate locally landed 8 for him including frieght for $116-40

always buy locally, thats my motto! lol :laugh:

these days i don't bother calling the local shop for any parts costing more than $10, i go online to the usa instead... always ends up cheaper and faster even with the killer shipping charges :blink:

[psyguy]

I've got a GS1000L engine

PM sent, mister :love:

[fridayflash]

some fairly robust gs/zook discussions/bartering going on here...must
have the correct forum!:Punk:

[pete376403]

E-Bay is both a delight and a pisser. F'rinstance...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/suzuki-gs1100gk-gs1100-exhaust-mufflers_W0QQitemZ110418146827QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM otorcycles_Parts_Accessories?hash=item19b56f360b&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245

or...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Suzuki-GS-GS1100GK-GS1100GK-Lots-of-power-here_W0QQitemZ170364515076QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_mo torcycles?hash=item27aa843304&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245

in fact anything on this page...

http://motors.shop.ebay.com/eBay-Motors_?_nkw=gs1100gk&_sacat=6000&_sop=12&_trksid=p3286.m270.l1313&_rdc=1

[pete376403]

I just saw the shipping price and lost interest

Shipping costs: Calculating... Calculate US $252.75- New Zealand (Approximately $ 395.35)

Thats still pretty cheap compared to the price I got from Staintune for a complete replica exhaust for the 1100 - over $AUD3000. Needless to say it didn't happen

[caseye]

Next BFTP ride is posted ladies an jennelemen! Our Hammy Div's first outing is on this Sunday weather permitting.
Hers the Link.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/calendar.php?do=getinfo&day=2009-8-2&c=10

[psyguy]

Thats still pretty cheap compared to the price I got from Staintune for a complete replica exhaust for the 1100 - over $AUD3000. Needless to say it didn't happen

custom chambers in ackl would make a chromed 4-2 for aprox $1500. not a replica, though.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Thats still pretty cheap compared to the price I got from Staintune for a complete replica exhaust for the 1100 - over $AUD3000. Needless to say it didn't happen

Have a look at http://cycleworks.co.nz/suzuki.php
they have replica 4 into 2's for between $1990 (chrome) and $2500 (stainless) or about $750 non replica in black
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/picture.php?albumid=2146&pictureid=28442

I just passed on a set with a couple of small holes and minor pitting for $100US + about $160US shipping.
http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/renobruce/Pipe/
As you can see they aren't too bad but not sufficiently better than mine to warrant the cost. I Want to hold out for a better set and spend 2 - 3 x as much on the pipes as needed to get seriously good ones. Though I understand they can go for up to $600 US. Did you know you can still buy them NOS from many online dealers? I gave up figuring the cost as I started adding up the separate components and became depressed:laugh:

btw.. re the ebay thing. I won a pair of rotors for U$13 but cost another U$55 in shipping... still cheap though.

[StatusQuo]

Hi guys - barely made it home Sunday due to fouled plugs again once i got back into traffic. Removed the head after work on Monday to fix the x threaded plug and it is having threaded inserts put into all 4 holes and have ordered from Z1 carb parts, Pingel pet cock and will take it to a specialist tuner whe all back and running. Probably install K&N pods also i think as air boxes are all wrong fit on the 48mm spigots on my VM30 carbs.
Hope to make the BFTP anni ride. Will pods work with std pipes? If anyone has good 4-1 i'd be intersted in price as it'd be good to lose the weight and gain some noise.
TW

[cmoore]

just uping my post numbers really......but if anyone else has trouble with inserting rubber seals..(XS650 clutch rod seal)...the plan seems to be to freeze them overnight to harden the rubber...chamfer the edge of the case and then use a silicon gasket sealer around the area before pushing it in with your fingers....i bought two from the states...have one chance left to get it right.....

[flyingcrocodile46]

Hi guys - barely made it home Sunday due to fouled plugs again once i got back into traffic. Removed the head after work on Monday to fix the x threaded plug and it is having threaded inserts put into all 4 holes and have ordered from Z1 carb parts, Pingel pet cock and will take it to a specialist tuner whe all back and running. Probably install K&N pods also i think as air boxes are all wrong fit on the 48mm spigots on my VM30 carbs.
Hope to make the BFTP anni ride. Will pods work with std pipes? If anyone has good 4-1 i'd be intersted in price as it'd be good to lose the weight and gain some noise.
TW

Hope you get it sorted out. From what I have heard, you would need to re-jet the carbs for use with a 4-1 or 4-2 when changing to pods. Was I you I'd ask popsylar or one of the other regs at GSR... they know this stuff inside out.

Pics of my carb size and spacing as requested


http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/picture.php?albumid=2146&pictureid=28608

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/picture.php?albumid=2146&pictureid=28607

[psyguy]

Will pods work with std pipes? If anyone has good 4-1 i'd be intersted in price as it'd be good to lose the weight and gain some noise.
TW

pods should work fine with the standard pipe but you are likely to lose some bottom end torque and gain a little top end power.
with vm carbs you have a chance of not needing new pilot jets as those carbs allow for more adjustment than cv carbs.
if you go to 4-1 exhaust then definitely need to up the jets.
i run 4-1 with stock jets but i can tell that the engine could us a bit more petrol at high revs when i whack open the throttle.
for the exact jet sizes i hear recomendations to best use dynajet kit (rather than experiment with various sizes that can be costly and give headaches).

i have 4-1 headers on trademe at the moment, but they need a mufler and a cosmetic overhaul.

[Dodgyiti]

Quo- best to make all the changes you are going to make, then get it dialed in. Hi flow air cleaners make it run lean if the exhaust gasses are freer flowing as well. Otherwise you will not really make much noticable difference by just doing that. And do you know how much :love: K&N :love: filters cost?? A bloody arm and both legs mate!
I would estimate that for 4 :love:K&N :love: filters would be over $350


Bummer to hear you had fouling again, I bet you were just relaxing after a trouble free ride too... :scooter:

Good to hear you are going to get all 4 plug threads done, may as well while the head is off.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Hi flow air cleaners make it run lean if the exhaust gasses are freer flowing as well. Otherwise you will not really make much noticable difference by just doing that

That's what I thought

[Dieseldick]

Hi guys - barely made it home Sunday due to fouled plugs again once i got back into traffic. Removed the head after work on Monday to fix the x threaded plug and it is having threaded inserts put into all 4 holes and have ordered from Z1 carb parts, Pingel pet cock and will take it to a specialist tuner whe all back and running. Probably install K&N pods also i think as air boxes are all wrong fit on the 48mm spigots on my VM30 carbs.
Hope to make the BFTP anni ride. Will pods work with std pipes? If anyone has good 4-1 i'd be intersted in price as it'd be good to lose the weight and gain some noise.
TW

Hi StatusQuo - I can give you some help on jetting your VM carbs. First try and find a stock airbox and mod it to suite your carbs. I believe that the GS850 CV airbox will have rubber boots around 48 mm on their BS32 carbs. I'm not sure how much work would be involved in mating up the box mounts to your 1000, but probably far less than the time to tune in the pods/4-1 combo.

If you go down the pods track, you'll be forever trying to get rid of stumbles either just off the pilots or during the needle operation. If you must go pods, do as Psyguy suggested, buy a DJ kit and give yourself a chance of getting the jetting close. Those kits have the right shaped needles needed to correct leanness caused by the freer flowing pods.

Let me know if I can help you with ball park jet sizes.

[wickle]

sorry about the rugby chaps! best team on the day

[Dieseldick]

sorry about the rugby chaps! best team on the day
Don't be sorry. It's taken 35 years, so let's rub it in!

Called around your way this avo. Thought you might have been at the game.
Any local rides on tomorrow?

[pete376403]

When I put the Cycleworks 4-into-1 on my 1100 I never touched the carb jetting. Air filter is a K&N in the standard airbox. Power delivery is as seamless as with the standard exhaust (which was pretty free-flowing due to all the rust holes) and standard foam filter.

[Dieseldick]

When I put the Cycleworks 4-into-1 on my 1100 I never touched the carb jetting. Air filter is a K&N in the standard airbox. Power delivery is as seamless as with the standard exhaust (which was pretty free-flowing due to all the rust holes) and standard foam filter.

Yeah, sometimes you don't need to change jetting after a 4-1 fit up when still using the stock airbox . The Cycle Works pipes seem to vary a bit in the sizing of the pipe and cones after the collector. That's the case with the slash pipes anyway. Is yours a slash or does it have a can attached?

Sometimes the bikes are running slightly rich in one part of the rev range in stock trim, and this changes when a 4-1 is used. But overall there doesn't seem to be any substantial difference.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Well folks, we had another great ride today. I will leave the write up to Caseye but would like to thank the jmk's (Craig and Sharon) for their hospitality (and breakfast.. Yum). Had a great ride and pleasant lunch. Thanks guys. Here are some pics from the Hamilton meet point.

I can't seem to post pics in this thread??

jmk's bike
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/picture.php?albumid=2146&pictureid=28840


Murrays Bike
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/picture.php?albumid=2146&pictureid=28836

Voltaire on the noise box
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/picture.php?albumid=2146&pictureid=28837

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/picture.php?albumid=2146&pictureid=28838

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/picture.php?albumid=2146&pictureid=28839

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/picture.php?albumid=2146&pictureid=28840

[caseye]

Well, what do you say about a day out of the box like today.
Brilliant sunshine 1st thing, no rain all day.
Great company, excellent Coffee and B and E's at the JMNK's pad.
Roads from Heaven to ride on and all this while in convoy with some Ulysesses and the Waikato Laxed Out Riders group.
AWESOME only just begins to cover it.
The coveted STICKETS have been stucketed to every attending BFTP machine and those in line for more STICKETS due to their rides attended got their quota's filled.
They look GREAT our BFTP stickets do.
Cheers Sharon for that little spelling mistook that has catapulted our stickets into the realms of etheral beauty and divineness, others attending todays rides wanted these highly sought after stickets, but alas unless on period bikes it was Sorry! no can do!
Kaiaua pub once again had many bikes round back in the garden bar, I thought everyone who went there knew to ride round back and park beside your umbrellaed table in their very nice and spacious Garden bar.
Seems not, so now there are many who do.
The pubs grub came fast and well presented, though as in recent times the quantity was lacking!
Once this little point has been rectified I'll again suggest to the SATNR riders that we should go back there.
Many other groups of riders were at the Kaiaua pub and the fish an chup shop but room was at a premium so I shifted our lot behind the pub, we got served much faster and considerably cheaper than those waiting for 1/2 an hour or more at the fush shop and of course we were able to imbide a bevvy or two during our meals.
Meet many people, put faces to names and generally had a great time with the different groups.
MOM if your out there reading this we sat beside each other and I'm sorry I didn't realise it was you, we've exchanged many words here on KB and I am truley sorry for not taking the chance to say Hi in person, another time I hope.
Your words re the ride organisers mission statement re going home hit home with those of us attending from the BFTP group.
2 of our members were offered trained mentor advice re their riding skills or lack thereoff, he he he.
One was so traumatised that he needed coffee when we stopped in Dorkland.The other was not asked if there had been any mitigating circumstances. Had that been done there was in fact an answer which may have lead to another rider being more severely mentored.
Apart from a couple of minor niggles we all reported a great days riding and an enthusiasm to repeat this expereince again, asap.
For those who didn't attend, "DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT ASKING FOR stickets FOR THIS RIDEK! lol.
We missed some old mates today, who didn't make the start line and to them, well guys and gilrs it really was one out of the box.
Attending riders.
Caseye.
psy-guy.
Crocagator.
Craig JMK.
Sharon JMK.
Voltaire.
Murray.
Trina.
MaxHeadroom.
Daughter of Max.(sorry memory is going fast)

Ixion? was ewe there mate, thought u was coming?
Condolences to those who's machines were going fine yesterday and then didn't want to start this morning, seems that bike has psy's disease, sleepinitis! aye cmoore! op's did I let it out.
Tai the JMK's have sent you a little something, if you can fight your way past ol Croc they're in his pack bag!
had a blast everyone.
Next ride please.

[Voltaire]

Well folks, we had another great ride today.


Voltaire on the noise box



:mega:

Even if I had bluetooth....I would not hear it......
Fanging good day out there fanging....choice even......

[caseye]

Did I hear you say Race? just after ewe said "Fanging" ? Naughty Noise box rider thats a no no I'm sending you a Mentor!

[psyguy]

always a pleasure to read your poetry caseye :first:

[jmk]

It sure was a great day and we still having a few giggles about somethings ;)

Hehe BFTP Poet award goes to ...... Caseye :first:

and reporter on the scene ..... Caseye :first:

[jmk]

And those stickets look awesome!!!!

[flyingcrocodile46]

Tai the JMK's have sent you a little something, if you can fight your way past ol Croc they're in his pack bag!

I pxt him but haven't heard back yet. Will pm him later

[Diggers]

As I sat at home with the kids today, looking out at the sunshine, thinking of Kaiaua, I couldn't help but think how good the day was for a ride with like minded bikers! And I was right. Glad everyone had a great time, bit jealous. cmoore: at least you nearly made the start line! Perhaps we'll both make it next time.

[flyingcrocodile46]

are you gunna run the 1100 donk in your 850 psy?
im on the look out for an 1100 motor (4valve) for my gsx.. or preferably
a whole gsx1100 with reg still in the system, but man theyre gettin
a bit rare and dear! lol


There's a 1000 on tardme for $300 or $400 buynow

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-for-sale/Complete-engines/auction-233903247.htm

[StatusQuo]

Hi StatusQuo - I can give you some help on jetting your VM carbs. First try and find a stock airbox and mod it to suite your carbs. I believe that the GS850 CV airbox will have rubber boots around 48 mm on their BS32 carbs. I'm not sure how much work would be involved in mating up the box mounts to your 1000, but probably far less than the time to tune in the pods/4-1 combo.

If you go down the pods track, you'll be forever trying to get rid of stumbles either just off the pilots or during the needle operation. If you must go pods, do as Psyguy suggested, buy a DJ kit and give yourself a chance of getting the jetting close. Those kits have the right shaped needles needed to correct leanness caused by the freer flowing pods.

Let me know if I can help you with ball park jet sizes.

Thanks everyone for the recommendations. Sorry for not responding sooner but i have been unable to dial in for 3 days as am on a remote dial up and cant get Vodafone reception at home. I have managed to cobble a reasonably good fitting airbox from 3 different GS ones i have collected and have a K&N airbox filter so will go down that road. Yes a set of new K & N pods was going to cost in excess of NZ$140 each so i quickly ended my interest in them. I will contact cycleworks re the 4-1. Current main jets are #112.5 not sure what the mid range jets are but as Psy said should be able to fiddle the fuel screws, side air screws and needle height to get it right, however i will probably get a shop/dyno tune. I also have a set of what i believe are GS1000S cams that came with the head and i am considering installing (0.5mm extra lobe height). I havent been able to find exact set up recommnedations for these carbs as they dont appear in any manuals for this model. I.E. early GS but has later head with larger inlet ports, these VM30? slide carbs and S cams. To date i havent run it with the S cams. These carbs to look at are like std 26/28mm VM's but taller with larger spigots and a Mikuni smoothbore type brass float and larger bowl assembly. The std VM28 carb bowl gaskets are not wide enough so have made my own. Originally the bike had the std VM26 set up perhaps i should have left it but the spare head i bought had much better carbs and inlet manifolds plus more go potential.

[cmoore]

thanks for all the wonderful comments re my failed start yesterday morning...it's nice to know somebody cares...and yes...i did spend most of the day looking at the weather and thinking what a great day for a ride!!....geezzz...i even thought about buying a new bike......as in 2009.....but then again....maybe i should just dig deep and get electronic ignition for my little twin...see ya all next time...

[wickle]

There's a 1000 on tardme for $300 or $400 buynow

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-for-sale/Complete-engines/auction-233903247.htm
no buyers first timehttp://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=232221725

[psyguy]

a set of new K & N pods was going to cost in excess of NZ$140 each

hey quo, whoever quoted you must have been drunk :shit:

you can get a set of four k&n pods at z1enterprises for US$150. postage by usps first class mail US$20 or so.

running the carbs that you can't find specs for is likely to be a major problem when it comes to tuning so i'd look up the gsr forum and see what options have been tried and tested. slightly different cams should not require major change at the carbs.
main jet on the 850 (and i think the 1100 as well) is 115 (mind you that is on the cv carbs).

[Dieseldick]

Thanks everyone for the recommendations. Sorry for not responding sooner but i have been unable to dial in for 3 days as am on a remote dial up and cant get Vodafone reception at home. I have managed to cobble a reasonably good fitting airbox from 3 different GS ones i have collected and have a K&N airbox filter so will go down that road. Yes a set of new K & N pods was going to cost in excess of NZ$140 each so i quickly ended my interest in them. I will contact cycleworks re the 4-1. Current main jets are #112.5 not sure what the mid range jets are but as Psy said should be able to fiddle the fuel screws, side air screws and needle height to get it right, however i will probably get a shop/dyno tune. I also have a set of what i believe are GS1000S cams that came with the head and i am considering installing (0.5mm extra lobe height). I havent been able to find exact set up recommnedations for these carbs as they dont appear in any manuals for this model. I.E. early GS but has later head with larger inlet ports, these VM30? slide carbs and S cams. To date i havent run it with the S cams. These carbs to look at are like std 26/28mm VM's but taller with larger spigots and a Mikuni smoothbore type brass float and larger bowl assembly. The std VM28 carb bowl gaskets are not wide enough so have made my own. Originally the bike had the std VM26 set up perhaps i should have left it but the spare head i bought had much better carbs and inlet manifolds plus more go potential.

If you're going to run the VM30 carbs your main jet will be around 120 with a stock airbox. If you fit the S cams with these carbs you'll gain more top end at the expense of the lower mid range. VM29 Smoothbore needles are usually 5DL31, probably a good starting point for your setup.
Cycleworks slash pipe should work well with your set up.

[Dodgyiti]

slightly different cams should not require major change at the carbs.

True, it only changes duration of fuel input, not fuel flow rate.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Anyone out there with a spare front wheel guard for a GS1000?

BFTP (and GSR) member 'Bill Alexander' requires one to help complete his 1000 rebuild.

[psyguy]

Anyone out there with a spare front wheel guard for a GS1000?

BFTP (and GSR) member 'Bill Alexander' requires one to help complete his 1000 rebuild.

an 850 but very likely to fit the 1000
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=233732684

[StatusQuo]

hey quo, whoever quoted you must have been drunk :shit:

you can get a set of four k&n pods at z1enterprises for US$150. postage by usps first class mail US$20 or so.

running the carbs that you can't find specs for is likely to be a major problem when it comes to tuning so i'd look up the gsr forum and see what options have been tried and tested. slightly different cams should not require major change at the carbs.
main jet on the 850 (and i think the 1100 as well) is 115 (mind you that is on the cv carbs).

Yeah gidday ive been down the GS forum road many times and have some good data to work with. Also TFB in Perth has some good info on these, although not specific. The KN tapered pods with chrome ends are $160 each ex AMPS (NZ sole distributor and probably heavily marked up) or $130 each ex Oz landed. Yes cheaper no doubt ex USA but anyway have decided to stay with the box. As I said i am going to get it set up on a dyno so all good. just waiting for the gaskets etc to put it back together now. Hey Croc i dont need the pods u have now but am happy to reimburse you for them appreciate the thought. Cheers Tai

[flyingcrocodile46]

Yeah gidday ive been down the GS forum road many times and have some good data to work with. Also TFB in Perth has some good info on these, although not specific. The KN tapered pods with chrome ends are $160 each ex AMPS (NZ sole distributor and probably heavily marked up) or $130 each ex Oz landed. Yes cheaper no doubt ex USA but anyway have decided to stay with the box. As I said i am going to get it set up on a dyno so all good. just waiting for the gaskets etc to put it back together now. Hey Croc i dont need the pods u have now but am happy to reimburse you for them appreciate the thought. Cheers Tai

No worries Tai. You owe me a feed of fush & chips :laugh:

[Dodgyiti]

No worries Tai. You owe me a feed of fush & chips :laugh:

You really mean you want someone else to order them for you so you actually get them eh?:Pokey:

[flyingcrocodile46]

You really mean you want someone else to order them for you so you actually get them eh?:Pokey:

Aw mate! :hug: That is very considerate of you. Can I have a half doz oysters as a side? :2thumbsup

[caseye]

Cheap skate! I'll have a dozen Scalloies please.an, an Harf!

[Dodgyiti]

Aww come on you two, let me explain this to you..

Owning an Italian bike is not a sign of wealth and status as you may be led to believe, it is a sign of eternal poverty, stress and hardship.

So rather than buy you these excessive side orders, I will more likely be fighting the seagulls for your chups.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Aww come on you two, let me explain this to you..

Owning an Italian bike is not a sign of wealth and status as you may be led to believe, it is a sign of eternal poverty, stress and hardship.

So rather than buy you these excessive side orders, I will more likely be fighting the seagulls for your chups.

Ok. Make it a meat lover Pizza with Olives Jalapenos and anchovies. Cheers

[caseye]

Mate I'll being the anti seagull ack ack! that way we can both get some Chuup's.
LOL.
So you gunna have that old Eyetie thing up and running reliably ( yeah I know too much to ask) before the 30th?

[cmoore]

shit !!...the 30th....I just received the AMC race calendar....and I am supposed to be working at Puki on the 30th!!....

[Dodgyiti]

So you gunna have that old Eyetie thing up and running reliably ( yeah I know too much to ask) before the 30th?

Should be, I thought I was there, now I am backwards. From a complete never turned over bike this has happened.

Take a deep breath now..........:shit:......... ok.

Put the pit pike tank on the main frame tube, plug in the fuel tubes and turn on the tap. Petrol in the carbs, oh, petrol on the floor.
:weep:
Run for rags, wipe fuel off engine and starter motor, also wipe off non petrol resistant paint from starter motor.
Disconnect fuel tank, pull bowl of l/h carb. Needle and seats are weirdly
NOT included in the Dellorto recon kits, even though with a rubber tip, it is a consumable... :brick:
Ring the Island Guru. Yes he has one 2.70 needle valve. Nice, only one is leaking. Put it in the post.
Needle arrives Monday morning. Fitted it, put the carb back on. Test carbs, the other carb is now sticking on the throttle return. Pull r/h carb apart and check slides etck, all looks ok but the spring is sad. Ring Island Guru again, "got a 36mm double pumper spring?" - "Yes they are on order, 3 weeks"
Ahhhhhhhh
:crybaby:

Ok, no biggie, so its a bit slow to return, that should not be vital. Put r/h carb back together and back on the bike. Fuel hooked up, press the button.. motor turns over with a strain and the battery dies. Pull the plugs out, hook in the timing light and spin her up again a bit faster, no spark on the l/h cyl.
Cross the electronic plate plugs and still no spark, so it's not the pick up. Pull off the l/h coil and replace from stock. Test- no spark. Pull apart lead and resistor, test with another lead, no spark.

Dash down the road to the auto sparkie and buy a new battery. They don't have a ready to go in my size (ummm XL thanks) so they give me the shell and acid. Take it home and fill, sweet, plug in the battery charger, the expensive trickel charger, and it fucks out. Dask across to the girlfriends house to borrow back my old charger and hooked up the new battery for overnight charging.

Last thing it can be is after coil, lead, connectors and wiring if it's not the pickup is the back box Dyna 3.
Ring AMPS (Dyna Importer) and blast there and buy another unit. Came home and hooked it in. Get spark in poth pots:done:, then spark in the black box and it cooks.
Remove complete electronic ignition unit from the frame and dizzy and throw on the garage floor.
Find steel handled mini-slege and pulverize any and all remains of electronic ignition and tear the Dyna 3 Sticket from toolbox.:2guns:

Later, calmer inspection showed clear coat had covered the engine case where I earthed the black box even though I checked continuity and it was all .000 reading.<_<

Go deeep deeeep into the parts bins and piece by piece, screw by screw make up a twin points plate and dual resistors and fit the bike and wire in.
Static timed to the r/h pot and then fitted the new battery and fuel. Back to the fucking dark ages it is then.
:brick:

Still spinning over pretty slowly. New engine is pretty tight but enough to tell there is spark to both pots.:kick:

Timing could be way out, the new billet clutch and ring gear has no marks. I tried to transfer some off the old flywheel but was not 100% sure exactly.
If I can get the engine to turn over fast enough I can twist the dizzy while she is spinning and fluke the right spot to fire.
Will hook up some jumpers to the ute in the morning and begin trial and error to see if I can get it to fire up and at least idle.
If it still turns over too slow I have a reduction geared starter on my other bike so I can switch them up and try that as well.

I hope that answers your question caseye?
:nya:

[psyguy]

omg, dodgyiti :shit: and i thought the ol' zooks can be chalenging...
now i understand why you need to have at least three guzzis at any one time :laugh:

[flyingcrocodile46]

Should be, I thought I was there, now I am backwards. From a complete never turned over bike this has happened.

Take a deep breath now..........:shit:......... ok.

Put the pit pike tank on the main frame tube, plug in the fuel tubes and turn on the tap. Petrol in the carbs, oh, petrol on the floor.
:weep:
Run for rags, wipe fuel off engine and starter motor, also wipe off non petrol resistant paint from starter motor.
Disconnect fuel tank, pull bowl of l/h carb. Needle and seats are weirdly
NOT included in the Dellorto recon kits, even though with a rubber tip, it is a consumable... :brick:
Ring the Island Guru. Yes he has one 2.70 needle valve. Nice, only one is leaking. Put it in the post.
Needle arrives Monday morning. Fitted it, put the carb back on. Test carbs, the other carb is now sticking on the throttle return. Pull r/h carb apart and check slides etck, all looks ok but the spring is sad. Ring Island Guru again, "got a 36mm double pumper spring?" - "Yes they are on order, 3 weeks"
Ahhhhhhhh
:crybaby:

Ok, no biggie, so its a bit slow to return, that should not be vital. Put r/h carb back together and back on the bike. Fuel hooked up, press the button.. motor turns over with a strain and the battery dies. Pull the plugs out, hook in the timing light and spin her up again a bit faster, no spark on the l/h cyl.
Cross the electronic plate plugs and still no spark, so it's not the pick up. Pull off the l/h coil and replace from stock. Test- no spark. Pull apart lead and resistor, test with another lead, no spark.

Dash down the road to the auto sparkie and buy a new battery. They don't have a ready to go in my size (ummm XL thanks) so they give me the shell and acid. Take it home and fill, sweet, plug in the battery charger, the expensive trickel charger, and it fucks out. Dask across to the girlfriends house to borrow back my old charger and hooked up the new battery for overnight charging.

Last thing it can be is after coil, lead, connectors and wiring if it's not the pickup is the back box Dyna 3.
Ring AMPS (Dyna Importer) and blast there and buy another unit. Came home and hooked it in. Get spark in poth pots:done:, then spark in the black box and it cooks.
Remove complete electronic ignition unit from the frame and dizzy and throw on the garage floor.
Find steel handled mini-slege and pulverize any and all remains of electronic ignition and tear the Dyna 3 Sticket from toolbox.:2guns:

Later, calmer inspection showed clear coat had covered the engine case where I earthed the black box even though I checked continuity and it was all .000 reading.<_<

Go deeep deeeep into the parts bins and piece by piece, screw by screw make up a twin points plate and dual resistors and fit the bike and wire in.
Static timed to the r/h pot and then fitted the new battery and fuel. Back to the fucking dark ages it is then.
:brick:

Still spinning over pretty slowly. New engine is pretty tight but enough to tell there is spark to both pots.:kick:

Timing could be way out, the new billet clutch and ring gear has no marks. I tried to transfer some off the old flywheel but was not 100% sure exactly.
If I can get the engine to turn over fast enough I can twist the dizzy while she is spinning and fluke the right spot to fire.
Will hook up some jumpers to the ute in the morning and begin trial and error to see if I can get it to fire up and at least idle.
If it still turns over too slow I have a reduction geared starter on my other bike so I can switch them up and try that as well.

I hope that answers your question caseye?



You poor bastard.. Christ! imagine what life with an Italian wife would be like :shutup:

[caseye]

High mantainence! not to mention expensive and most likely a lota fun.
Dodgyiti, sorry I asked.
But enjoyed the read and now know beyond doubt to stick with my old girl.
Still seriously looking forward to seeing this Icon of yours on the start line on the 30th.

[Dodgyiti]

Ok, it's a runner.
The reason it was beating me around the head a bit was a combination of things, if it were one or two things kaput I would have sussed it sooner.
So it starts up fine. The planatery geared starter I robbed off my Mk2 spun it at a suitable speed to fire. It would have started off the 1970's Bosch starter had all my planets been perfectly in alignment, but they were far from that.
Once I heard the first fire (and there was only one wee murmer firstly) it was only a short sprint to idling. Set the idle and mixture and balanced them.
It was impressive that only new bikes really have had my electronic balancer exactly on one bar of the LED, which indicates optimum balance. She is on optimum balance. Before the resto, it was hovering over 3 bars- the best I could get it no matter what.
So that is encouraging.
Still stuck with the failed return springs in the carbs, yeah it's springs now as both do not return properly. 2 1/2 week wait for them....
So I will set the timing with a strobe tomorrow, it is statically set at the moment but Guzzi's need full advance for correct setting.
To do that I will have to mark the flywheel because the aftermarket clutch housing is so tiny you can't see it from the timing inspection port. But from setting up the engine I have exact TDC for the right cyl. It is a process of counting gear teeth from that mark to get full advance for the R/H pot, then counting more all the way around to the L/H timing marks working off the old flywheel markings and converting that into ring gear teeth.
For some reason the rev counter is not working, could be the cable not engaging in the guages or engine, I set the idle rpm off the balancer function but will need it going to precisely hit full advance at 4,200rpm because I don't want to accidently wring it's neck on a fresh engine, 4 grand is heaps under no load :blink:
Of course the springs are required for that, unless with some careful cable routing I can get the carbs, or at least one (I can return one manually with me finger)returning to idle it will be possible, if not I just have to wait...

Hope that answers your question caseye
:done:

[flyingcrocodile46]

Excellent stuff Dodgy. After the the last effort you deserved a bit of a win

[StatusQuo]

Does anyone have a calendar of the Post Classic racing season 09/10 for Pukekohe/Taupo or know where it is found?

[Voltaire]

omg, dodgyiti :shit: and i thought the ol' zooks can be chalenging...
now i understand why you need to have at least three guzzis at any one time :laugh:

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Only 2 Ducatis in my shed....33% more reliable :whistle:

[cmoore]

AUGUST 30th 2009 - Advanced Rider Training

OCTOBER 4th 2009 - Advanced Rider Training

NOVEMBER 1st 2009 - Auckland Motorcycle Club Round 1

NOVEMBER 15th 2009 - Auckland Motorcycle Club Round 2

DECEMBER 12th 2009 - Advanced Rider Training

DECEMBER 13th 2009 - Auckland Motorcycle Club Round 3

JANUARY 17th 2010 - Advanced Rider Training

FEBRUARY 21st 2010 - PAEROA BATTLE OF THE STREETS

MARCH 6th 2010 - Advanced Rider Trainin

MARCH 7th 2010 - Auckland Motorcycle Club Round 4

MARCH 27th and 28th 2010 - NATIONALS AT HAMPTON DOWNS

APRIL 18th 2010 - Auckland Motorcycle Club Round 5

APRIL 24th 2010 - Advanced Rider Training
and try the nzpcra web site

[cmoore]

i have always liked "odd" bikes....but those guzzi's seem to be a lot of work....i am looking for another bigger bike but have decided to stick to the twins.....so my next bike is a big 900 - 1200 twin....which is not easy to find back in the 80's....XV1000 like caseye's are around....but not too many decent ones...

[Dodgyiti]

i have always liked "odd" bikes....but those guzzi's seem to be a lot of work....i am looking for another bigger bike but have decided to stick to the twins.....so my next bike is a big 900 - 1200 twin....which is not easy to find back in the 80's....XV1000 like caseye's are around....but not too many decent ones...

Don't get me wrong, Guzzis are pretty much up there with BMW when it comes to churning out big kms. The small valve engines go and go and go (850-T3, 1000SP, Californicator, etc) but bikes like the Mk1 & 2 Lemons were pretty highly strung. For a start they came out with velocity stacks as standard, no air cleaners!

:sherlock:Here is a quote from the Mk1 LeMans Factory Owner's Handbook. Page one, paragraph one:

"Due to its exceptionally high feature, this motorcycle can be considered as in the racing machine class and as such has to be ridden in a sportsmanlike way.
For this reason it has met the favour of many motorcycle fans but, same as for all racing bikes, it has to be used accordingly.
For instance, if the twist grip is not used correctly in accordance with the engine revolutions, there might be an excess of fuel which is ejected by the carburettors.
It is obvious that if in such conditions the engine backfires, the risk of a fire is quite considerable"

:sherlock:Let me translate that Italian-into-English:

If you don't ride it like a man and stop being a pussy, it will vomit fuel all over you and set you on fire:killingme


Of course, that is why we love the Mk1 so much:love:
They just can't make a bike like that now.

Some would say good job.

[wickle]

Dont know if any one is looking for 630 chain but this doesnt seem like a bad price estimate around $180-00 NZ ,,, http://motors.shop.ebay.com/re5sam/m.html?_trkparms=65%253A12%257C66%253A2%257C39%253 A1%257C72%253A2122&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_stpos=&_fcid=149&gbr=1

[cmoore]

shit dodgy...my yam leaks fuel all the time...mind you it only holds 11ltrs so not really an issue....fantastic thing to put in the manual though....wouldn't get that today...we are far to PC to be real about anything.......

[StatusQuo]

Thanks for the calendar list.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Hey Status Q,

How is the bike going.. sorted yet?

[Voltaire]

I was inspired by what Moto Guzzi said in their literature....so I found the Ducati one....

Dear Sir,

We are very glad to welcome you among our clients, and feel sure that you will not fail to appreiciate the magnificent performances of the DUCATI motorcycles.
The Magnificent performances and reliability of our machines reflect the experience gained throughout many years of sucessful racing both on the track and the road.
In order to obtain the fine service that the Ducati machine is capable of giving, it is essential that the instructions contained in this book be religiously adhered to.

If these instructions are followed closely , particularly during the running in period of the machine, then you will be assured many years of trouble-free enjoyable riding.
We thank you and congradulate you on your wise choice of such a fine machine with unequalled performances.

DUCATI MECCANICA Spa.

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
Reliaibility.....obviously relative to their other products.
I do however agree with the Magnificent Performances, usually me on trying to start it.
Did the Lemans ever win at Lemans?
The Darmah cleaned up at Darmah ( just north of New Delhi) , Enfield came second, third, forth, fifth, sixth .........innocent:

[Dodgyiti]

Thats bloody funny, they were so confident as long as you pray religiously it may not handgrenade.

As for Lemans at Lemans, yes but European Champs not Grand Prix. Guzzi stopped racing soon after WW2 (with a wee dabble in the early 70's) so the only people racing them were privateers.
With the factory race kit :love:

[Voltaire]

Thats bloody funny, they were so confident as long as you pray religiously it may not handgrenade.


That explains the Rosary Beads and picture of the Pope with his Imola SS in the original tool kit:rolleyes:

[psyguy]

lol, the italians... :no:

here's zook's:

...packed with highly advanced designe concepts... precise control and easy handling... provides exceptional performance and outstanding riding comfort

and that's all folks... how disapointing :(

i'd be keen to hear from the germans. anyone?

[Max Headroom]

i'd be keen to hear from the germans. anyone?


OK, this'll send you to sleep then . . . . .

"Dear BMW Enthusiast,

The motorcycle is a constant challenge to a man; a challenge to experience the adventure of man's command over the machine - direct and unadulterated. Wind, weather and road conditions must be tackled and mastered anew - on every single occasion. And above all, the machine . . . .

You have chosen a BMW with its wonderfully refined, powerful twin cylinder horizontally opposed engine and shaft drive - "the greatest", as our American friends might say. We congratulate you on this decision.

Our Owner's Manual contains all the information you need to enjoy the unspoiled pleasure of riding this fine motorcycle, and also the care and attention needed to maintain the value of this precision machine. Please study the contents - in a very short time you will become familiar with the features of your BMW.

Now you can start to enjoy a quite exceptional experience: true riding pleasure - in dense traffic, on narrow winding mountain roads, and along the endless concrete ribbon of the cross-country highway.

Sincerely yours.
BAYERISCHE MOTOREN WERKE AG"


z z z z z z z z z . . . . . . .

[Dodgyiti]

Oh dear! The other end of the spectrum. BMW sound pretty full of themselves don't they:yes:

American Friends :killingme who? Henry Ford? The same people who stole all our scientists? Are they being scarcastic?
Hang on, they are German so possibly not.

There must be some pretty funny Japanese into English manuals out there?

[Voltaire]

Oh dear! The other end of the spectrum. BMW sound pretty full of themselves don't they:yes:

American Friends :killingme who? Henry Ford? The same people who stole all our scientists? Are they being scarcastic?
Hang on, they are German so possibly not.

There must be some pretty funny Japanese into English manuals out there?

Henry Ford....thats where BMW and Moto Guzzi got their advanced OHV engine designs from:eek:

Heres the link for OHV for anyone under 70 who doesn't know what they are...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overhead_valve

[psyguy]

Henry Ford....thats where BMW and Moto Guzzi got their advanced OHV engine designs from:eek:

Heres the link for OHV for anyone under 70 who doesn't know what they are...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overhead_valve

thanks, i'm under 70...

so, bmw and guzzi are ohv designs?

[cmoore]

i could bore you with the manual from the yamaha xj550...but instead i will let you know that at xjbikes.com........the parts supplier for these fantastic bikes.....has put together a 300+ page run down on every single nut...bolt washer...modification....sequence of works....suggestions..tool list.....tuning advice......EVERYTHING you ever wanted to know about these bikes....absolutely fantastic.......although you do wonder how long it took him to do this.......but great all the same for those of us silly enough to try and restore one...300+ pages!!!

[Max Headroom]

thanks, i'm under 70...

so, bmw and guzzi are ohv designs?

Can't speak for Guzzi, but BMW road-bike engines were OHV up until 1993 when the oilhead "semi-overhead cam" design hit the market. There were BMW OHC engines used for racing back in the '50s & '60s. When fitted in the BMW racing sidecars of the '60s they were formidable, winning the majority of World Championships in that decade.

The OHC design in the '60s was just too expensive to consider for mass-production. The OHV road-bikes were already way too expensive for most folk, and bike production had slowed to a trickle by 1968 . . . .

[psyguy]

thanks max :niceone:

[wickle]

not the totally correct place ,, but Hawkes BaY BFTP riders planning to head to Dorkland for ride at end of month ride we better get together to do some planning if we dont go on suggested ride on Sunday better get together after lunch, so I'll volunter my place!

[psyguy]

not the totally correct place ,, but Hawkes BaY BFTP riders planning to head to Dorkland for ride at end of month ride we better get together to do some planning if we dont go on suggested ride on Sunday better get together after lunch, so I'll volunter my place!

yeah, let us know your plans so we can get organised up here, too

[flyingcrocodile46]

Aye! It would be cool to get together for a quiet bevy or two before we blast off :woohoo::rockon:

[wickle]

I was going to ride up Friday so go and see daughter and grand-daughter ( live up Orewa) but having disagreement with upper management about work hours (too many) so I will be leaving Napier Sat morn and most prob look at returning Monday

[Dieseldick]

I was going to ride up Friday so go and see daughter and grand-daughter ( live up Orewa) but having disagreement with upper management about work hours (too many) so I will be leaving Napier Sat morn and most prob look at returning Monday

Those are my plans too. I will be staying with my brother, so no BFTP accommodation required. Thanks for the offers made earlier though guys.

Wickle, I'll see you Sunday for that ride and to confirm plans for our group.
I'm chasing an annoying ignition fault on the 850 at present. Rang the Boyer Brandsden rep in the UK last night. I was given some checks to do on the HT system. That's my priority today.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Is Friday flash coming and what about our friend Onefast? And wasn't there a 'George' or sumit?

Just to remind you, both Caseye and I have garage space (bedding of sorts available for a few in mine) I dare say Caseye has a bale of pink batts or two that will make fine beds :msn-wink: Ivor also has a nice soft bed with fluffy pink trimming for the more discerning biker.:clap:

[caseye]

Pink! Batts, never@#$ Green NZ Woolly ones I have thank you.
LOL . Would be good to know who's coming up and if they need beds etc.
Also if most are coming up on Saturday! perhaps we should plan a small gathering somewhere???.

[psyguy]

Ivor also has a nice soft bed with fluffy pink trimming for the more discerning biker.:clap:

it's actually light green with silver embroidery :bleh:

[wickle]

yeah, let us know your plans so we can get organised up here, too
okay hope I have the plans correct, at this stage only three of us heading Northy, Garry has a torn shoulder so is on home arrest for a few weeks( three female jailers) Desiel Dick, Friday Flash and me will at this stage be leaving approx at oh nine hundred hours Saturday morning, travelling time of six hours including stops if I dont slow them down, DBle D is staying with his brother so if bunks(seperate ones) are available for FF and me that will be great!

[psyguy]

i assume the two of you would like to sleep at the same place but if either one of you want to sleep in a proper bed/bedroom at my place you're welcome :cool:

i mean, you're both welcome if you want to squeeze on a double bed :hug:

just NO pillow fights :girlfight: please

[caseye]

psy if you have the room and if the boys are happy then stayingwith you would maker more sense.It's on the way to our blast off point.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Or we have the humble garage with a couple of camp beds and air beds. and/or mattresses. BYO sleeping bags. We can sort pillows for ya to fight with :lol:and are 5 mins away from the motorway and the start line

[psyguy]

are 5 mins away from the motorway and the start line

lol, i may need to come sleep at your garage as well so i can sleep in a bit :rolleyes:

[flyingcrocodile46]

lol, i may need to come sleep at your garage as well so i can sleep in a bit :rolleyes:


Sleep? :laugh:

[Dodgyiti]

Aww.. it's just like a school trip:laugh:

If I had decent accomadation to offer, I would but it's a bit rough at the PlayDodgy Mansion.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Wickle. Orewa is about 20 to 25 minutes North of my place. Do you want to check and see whether you will head up to see your daughter in the afternoon/early evening or do you want to catch up with them for dinner?? We can then plan a quiet get together for those that are free to meet and greet.

Hey Dieseldick! Where is your brother located?

[wickle]

Or we have the humble garage with a couple of camp beds and air beds. and/or mattresses. BYO sleeping bags. We can sort pillows for ya to fight with :lol:and are 5 mins away from the motorway and the start line
You've got the beer fridge in the garage too!

[wickle]

Wickle. Orewa is about 20 to 25 minutes North of my place. Do you want to check and see whether you will head up to see your daughter in the afternoon/early evening or do you want to catch up with them for dinner?? We can then plan a quiet get together for those that are free to meet and greet.

Hey Dieseldick! Where is your brother located?
I think he said his brother was in Manurewa? Daughter does know I coming up yet, supose better warn her so she can hide the uless a____h___ of a boyfriend will must probably just go and see her for couple of hours or meet her at ex's house which is in Glenfield I think!

[flyingcrocodile46]

I think he said his brother was in Manurewa? Daughter does know I coming up yet, supose better warn her so she can hide the uless a____h___ of a boyfriend will must probably just go and see her for couple of hours or meet her at ex's house which is in Glenfield I think!

Cool.

No doubt Dieseldick can catch up with Caseye on Sunday morning prior to the ride as Caseye lives in Manurewa. Caseye can show him the way to the start line.... Eh Caseye??

[Dieseldick]

Cool.

No doubt Dieseldick can catch up with Caseye on Sunday morning prior to the ride as Caseye lives in Manurewa. Caseye can show him the way to the start line.... Eh Caseye??

My bro lives in Manger Bridge. It would be good to catch up with Caseye on the way through and tour to the start line together on Sunday morning. Looking forward to catching up with you all over the weekend.

I think I've sorted the ignition woes out on the 850 :niceone:

[caseye]

No worries at all atall! I'll liase further Dieseldick at a latter time but I'll probably come to where you are and we can go from there.

[wickle]

Look what I found tucked away in someones garage

[caseye]

Crikey! that really is tucked away isn't it?
Looks to be in remarkably good condition for it's age.

[Dodgyiti]

Look what I found tucked away in someones garage

Ohh, careful, that sort of thing gets folk right excited around these parts:shifty:

Nice fairing.

[Dieseldick]

Look what I found tucked away in someones garage

Hey, next you'll be wanting to take it north at the end of the month!

Nice find. When do I get to try it out? :no:

[flyingcrocodile46]

Big Red eh!

:shit: Questions must be answered.

How much $
Can I have it?
Is it/has it been ridden regular?
When can I have it? :Punk:

[wickle]

Big Red eh!

:shit: Questions must be answered.

How much $
Can I have it?
Is it/has it been ridden regular?
When can I have it? :Punk:
Enough but not too much
NO,
understand not for last couple years
same answer as Q2

[wickle]

Hey, next you'll be wanting to take it north at the end of the month!

Nice find. When do I get to try it out? :no:
need to charge new battery that came with it after I put acid in of course.

[Dieseldick]

need to charge new battery that came with it after I put acid in of course.

You mean he also threw in a new battery for $300. <_< Sorry just winding up the Northern Folk with the price!

[wickle]

You mean he also threw in a new battery for $300. <_< Sorry just winding up the Northern Folk with the price!
well if you take of the price of new battery, fairly new tyres orginal exhaust and pipes in pretty good conidition not far off! have removed fairing need replacement handle bars ( dont like mini ape hanger type)

[Dieseldick]

well if you take of the price of new battery, fairly new tyres orginal exhaust and pipes in pretty good conidition not far off! have removed fairing need replacement handle bars ( dont like mini ape hanger type)

Hey, you sound like you're stripping things off it already. I thought Weds was D Day!

[fridayflash]

show us a pic as it sits in your carport wickle.. sure was a good score
(tinney bastard mutter mutter etc) hehe
charge that battery and lets fire her up!

[psyguy]

ok now, how does someone FIND something like that, other than off trademe for $4000 ???

what's the mileage (if reliable) and how many owners?

[flyingcrocodile46]

If you paid less than $2000 you stole it. $2500 would have been fair. I say you saved a thou on your thou. You did very well and yeah! the bars are out. Half that rise and a bit less pull back is the way

[fridayflash]

If you paid less than $2000 you stole it. $2500 would have been fair. I say you saved a thou on your thou. You did very well and yeah! the bars are out. Half that rise and a bit less pull back is the way

excellent powers of deduction flying croc:shutup: ill say no more hehe
its made me hanker for another 2valve zook myself....
starting to get all tuned up for the end o the month ride now guys
so looking forward to meeting you all, as for accomodation im happy to go
anywhere and thanks to all who have offered, if your offer still
stands caseye then that could be the go? or wickle and i could split up
and stay with psy and caseye?

[wickle]

ok now, how does someone FIND something like that, other than off trademe for $4000 ???

what's the mileage (if reliable) and how many owners?
looks like two/three owners with a number of speedo changes, as for finding bikes like this,well other members of Classic Club know want I gather, therefore I have 100 plus pairs of eyes and ears out there.

[wickle]

If you paid less than $2000 you stole it. $2500 would have been fair. I say you saved a thou on your thou. You did very well and yeah! the bars are out. Half that rise and a bit less pull back is the way
Believe it or not he took it to last Hamilton swap meet, but someone who was interested in it upset him so he dug his toes and brought it back to Napier

[caseye]

Hey Flash I'm easy, I've room for at least two bods and bikes plus gear, means sleeping in the lounge but no drama's.
Let me know.

[wickle]

Originally Posted by wickle
ennie meanie mo, now I have big Reddieoh which one of the others will have to go
will be the gs850 ooo or the 1000 shaftieoh or one of the 750/ohs

reply from Fridayflash
to be or not to be...that is the question hehe
thats a tricky one wickle maybe sell the lot
apart from one 750 and the 550?