The BMW GS boxer twin thread

[Eddieb]

So the postman finally came today and delivered me a box of goodies.

I can finally start on the PD carbs. While investigating the 800 in the weekend we pulled the PD plugs. The carb I had been able to open and check was running not too bad but the one I can't get the top off looks like it is running horrendously rich.

So first step is drilling out the carb screws, any hints?

[Phreaky Phil]

For those of you who dont frequent ADV Rider's Old's Cool forum, here's what I've been up to over winter. Fitting a rear disc to my GS

[NordieBoy]

For those of you who dont frequent ADV Rider's Old's Cool forum, here's what I've been up to over winter. Fitting a rear disc to my GS

Nicely done.

Is it just me or does that brakeline look like it's going to the hub and not the caliper?

[Eddieb]

That's a vent for the hub not the brake line.

[Phreaky Phil]

Nicely done.

Is it just me or does that brakeline look like it's going to the hub and not the caliper?
Its just you !!! I spent HOURS working out brakeline positions and lengths to make sure everything cleared

[Phreaky Phil]

That's a vent for the hub not the brake line.
That vent line wasnt tied up properly. Good spotting

[That looks like fun]

Brake line? Vent for Hub? Bahh humbug. Looks like the breather for the diff to me (all bikes have a diff dont they?) :third: Been altered to prevent water getting in during river crossings. Who made up your brake line Phil? Had to get some made for my bike a while back when I removed the ABS. Not a cheap thing to do :blink:

[Phreaky Phil]

Brake line? Vent for Hub? Bahh humbug. Looks like the breather for the diff to me (all bikes have a diff dont they?) :third: Been altered to prevent water getting in during river crossings. Who made up your brake line Phil? Had to get some made for my bike a while back when I removed the ABS. Not a cheap thing to do :blink:
There from Eurobike. I got them from Image M/C in New Plymouth. There really cool because the ends come separately and the line comes in 25mm increments. There are all sorts of different ends. Prices aren't to scarey

[NordieBoy]

Its just you !!! I spent HOURS working out brakeline positions and lengths to make sure everything cleared

Whew! I'm still unique.


All that effort and you still covered up the Brembo logo...



:shutup:

[That looks like fun]

Thought I recognized the work of Mr Brill. Is the vent your own work? with my Aquatic expertise I should possibly look at something like that, oh yeh and something for the hole that air is supposed to go in at the front of the bike :blink:

[igormortis]

Once again Phil, that's some really nice work. How does it perform?

[BEAMER89]

Not a GS but How cool is this!! havent seen one this tidy for a long time let alone for sale, not a bad price either. Sould sell fast

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=236679205

Cheers Graham

[Phreaky Phil]

Once again Phil, that's some really nice work. How does it perform?
The brake works GREAT. I have to retrain my right foot as I can lock it up now whereas before it was impossible, it hardly even slowed us down. It does highlight that the front is a bit weak. I used to have a different front end on the bike with a 320mm disc and a 4 piston caliper, so I know how good they can be.

[Phreaky Phil]

Thought I recognized the work of Mr Brill. Is the vent your own work? with my Aquatic expertise I should possibly look at something like that, oh yeh and something for the hole that air is supposed to go in at the front of the bike :blink:
Yea, the vent is my own handy work, with a bit of Kelvins machining thrown in.
I need to do a gearbox one as well. Beemers are reasonably easy to drown with the snorkles pointing forward like that.

[Taz]

For those of you who dont frequent ADV Rider's Old's Cool forum, here's what I've been up to over winter. Fitting a rear disc to my GS

Awesome Phil now it almost looks like my 1100 but with crap front brakes and no power :laugh:

Just kidding.....

Andy.

[Phreaky Phil]

Awesome Phil now it almost looks like my 1100 butwith crap front brakes and no power :laugh:

Just kidding.....

Andy.
But yours ISN'T an Aihead.:2guns:

[igormortis]

Not a GS but How cool is this!! havent seen one this tidy for a long time let alone for sale, not a bad price either. Sould sell fast

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=236679205

Cheers Graham

Oh man, that's NICE! I do notice it's being sold by a tractor dealership! :lol:

[Eddieb]

Another red/White PD for sale with luggage.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Classic-vintage/auction-237971455.htm

In Napier, $8500 ono.

[Eddieb]

I need to drill out the carb screws on the right hand side carb on the PD.

How do I go about this?

Both are seized solid, the heads were fairly mangled when I got the bike and I've completed the job trying to get them undone.

I have a new needle, needle jet and allen head screws to go onto the carb and soon as I can get the current screws out. I've done the other side no problem.

[Box'a'bits]

Hard to be too sutble about it. Be brave. What' the worst that can happen...Chose a drill bit the same size as the shank of the screw. Measure a good screw for depth of the counter sunk portion. Drill out the countersunk portion until this separates from the body of the screw, or (assuming you are doing both sides) you are able separate the top of the carb. Then either cut across along the top of the residual screw body, to give you something to screw out on, or alternatively twist the residual screw body using vise grips. Good luck. Try not to damage the carb top. You'll likely find the corrosion was in the countersunk portion rather than the screw thread itself. :bye:

[Eddieb]

Anyone know where to get 40mm Bing carb diaphragms at a decent price, quickly?

One of mine appears to be stretched, it won't seat properly and seems to somehow become about 1cm larger diameter than it should.

I just rang my friendly dealer and she was just as surprised at the $96 each cost from BMW NZ.

[Taz]

Here's a kit and a walk through......

http://www.adventuremotogear.com/bing-carb-rebuild-with-diaphragms-p-159.html


http://www.gunsmoke.com/motorcycling/r100gs/carb_rebuild/index.html

[Eddieb]

Thanks Steve, careful application of the drill and I have my right hand carb open now.

I've found why it was running like shite. The diaphragm is holed with a chunk missing out of one edge 3-4mm round. The carb looked like shit, black and moist everywhere but it cleaned up well.

Also the needle jet was really full of gunk so thats been cleaned right out and a new needle jet installed. The vents around the needle jets were completely blocked in both carbs. A new needle will go in when I have new diaphragms then it should rock.

So, anyone know when I can get 2 diaphragms for 40mm carbs in a hurry without paying the $96.80 each BMW want to rape me for?

[Eddieb]

There's a REALLY REALLY nice PD just been advertised on trade me.

Black with full luggage it's the 'classic' model which I think was a final edition model.

Bidding currently at $4000 and reserve met.

This thing looks mint, if you've been wanting one, check out this one.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Classic-vintage/auction-238242202.htm

[igormortis]

There's a REALLY REALLY nice PD just been advertised on trade me.
Oh Lord, that link is dangerous...

[Eddieb]

Yeah but you have an addiction and you're even more afflicted than I am.

[dino3310]

these GS models are just friggin awesome, wish i could afford 2 bikes:(
i love Kokpelli's r80gs basic139742

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Classic-vintage/auction-237971455.htm
139741

[Eddieb]

not mine but just saw it

The side stand kit will be $165, a bargain compared to similar kits from Europe. http://ozadvntr.smugmug.com/photos/438329400_qujYh-XL.jpg
contact info
Michael Jaeger 0421276875

Where did you see this, is it supposed to be in NZ or oveseas?

[Eddieb]

Well, spent a bit of time in the garage this weekend.

The PD now has:

New Needles
New Needle Jets
New Allen head carb screws
Cleaned out fuel passages, geez there was a lot of gunk in the jet passage
Replacement 'Bean can' installed, big thanks to Igormortis
New Pivot Pegz
Gear lever adjusted to suit Pivot Pegz
Front pads removed and sanded down as they were a bit glazed and hadn't been bedding in that well
Headlight dropped off to Bryce at 'Buckets & Bits' for some remedial surgery

Hopefully my new diaphragms will arrive in the post Monday. I sourced a pair from R-Twin works in Palmerston North for $49 included shipping. Once those are in I can reassemble the carbs and she should be all go.

And I took the R80 out for a quick spin this morning, she's rocking along well. Lots of fun around twisty city streets.

[MXNUT]

Well, spent a bit of time in the garage this weekend.

The PD now has:

New Needles
New Needle Jets
New Allen head carb screws
Cleaned out fuel passages, geez there was a lot of gunk in the jet passage
Replacement 'Bean can' installed, big thanks to Igormortis
New Pivot Pegz
Gear lever adjusted to suit Pivot Pegz
Front pads removed and sanded down as they were a bit glazed and hadn't been bedding in that well
Headlight dropped off to Bryce at 'Buckets & Bits' for some remedial surgery

Hopefully my new diaphragms will arrive in the post Monday. I sourced a pair from R-Twin works in Palmerston North for $49 included shipping. Once those are in I can reassemble the carbs and she should be all go.

And I took the R80 out for a quick spin this morning, she's rocking along well. Lots of fun around twisty city streets.

Should be able to get some REASONABLE fuel consumption out of it now that it has 2 working carbs :wacko::wacko::wacko:

[Waihou Thumper]

Well, spent a bit of time in the garage this weekend.


Hopefully my new diaphragms will arrive in the post Monday.

You should go on the pill Eddie, they are tricky to insert mate, especially for us blokes...Is that why you got two then? If you don't succeed with the first, have a back up...:laugh:

[Eddieb]

Should be able to get some REASONABLE fuel consumption out of it now that it has 2 working carbs :wacko::wacko::wacko:

Here's hoping. I was down to 11km/litre on the last tank and wasn't getting the grin factor you should with that sort of economy. When we pulled the plugs it was obvious the cylinder I had been able to access was running not too bad but the other one was serious rich.

[Underground]

You should go on the pill Eddie, they are tricky to insert mate, especially for us blokes...Is that why you got two then? If you don't succeed with the first, have a back up...:laugh:

Funny you should say this ,I've heard of Africa Twin riders using condoms as emergency carb diaphrams successfully.

[igormortis]

Nice to hear you're getting things sorted Eddie!

Now, does anyone know where I can get a 41mm spanner? I need one so I can torque down my fork top bolts.

[Eddieb]

Well she lives again, My diaphragms were in the letterbox when I got home tonight so she's now (mostly) back together again.

Timing has been set up as close as I can do on my first effort of doing it alone and it's idling between 900-1000rpm.

Hopefully the chunk out of the diaphragm you can see below is the cause of most of my worries, along with worn needles and needle jets.

However I'm fully expecting it to run like a dog under power as it's been set up with all the worn out parts in it,. I'll probably find the carbs are way out of sync and it will be way rich or lean and I'll spend most of next weekend tweaking it.

[Box'a'bits]

Which one do you trust to take you to the Kiwi? Which has the most suitable tyres??...See you up there.

The NZD is looking good against the GBP. Just imported NZD 450 of parts for the Gilera. Looks like a similar order's in train for the RS. Might be good to get that running again. Its been looking rather sad in the corner of the garage, with an oil splodge under it, for far too long.. Think the battery has finally died (no worries - only 7 yrs old)...

Cheers, Steve

[Eddieb]

Which one do you trust to take you to the Kiwi? Which has the most suitable tyres??...See you up there.

The NZD is looking good against the GBP. Just imported NZD 450 of parts for the Gilera. Looks like a similar order's in train for the RS. Might be good to get that running again. Its been looking rather sad in the corner of the garage, with an oil splodge under it, for far too long.. Think the battery has finally died (no worries - only 7 yrs old)...

Cheers, Steve

The 800 has better tyres and is running sweet, The PD should be sweet now too but will probably need some tweaking to get just right.

But it's raw vrs refined and refined is the one I want to take.

[Box'a'bits]

The 800 has better tyres and is running sweet, The PD should be sweet now too but will probably need some tweaking to get just right.

But it's raw vrs refined and refined is the one I want to take.

So hope that Bryce comes to the party, or take a risk that it doesn't rain on your parade. H4s don't do well in the wet, though yours seems to have done okay... :innocent:

[Eddieb]

Bryce came to the party, I picked up my headlight this morning and put it on the bike tonight.

So I took the bike out for a spin. Once warmed up the idle is a little high. I suspect also the timing is not quite right and/or the carbs are a bit out of balance as the bike is quite vibey where it wasn't before.

Acceleration however was constant throughout the rev range with no more huge gaping holes where nothing happened or it missed like crazy, with the exception of some hesitation just coming off idle.

The headlight seems good, following cars the top edge of the beam was at the bottom level of rear windows.

[Eddieb]

So whats not quite right if it's hard to start when cold?

Warm it seems to fire right up but cold it takes a while to fire.

Haven't had a chance to check out the timing and carb balance, I might just have to ride it as it is.

[Box'a'bits]

So whats not quite right if it's hard to start when cold? Warm it seems to fire right up but cold it takes a while to fire. Haven't had a chance to check out the timing and carb balance, I might just have to ride it as it is.

Timing has a large impact on ease of starting...However if the variability is when the bike is cold, that might would suggest the carb settings. Did you look at the choke settings? Also idle circuit.

[igor]

hey Eddie. is that you on front page of advrider.com

[Padmei]

Listening to National radio today. The lady who was introducing the daily "Best song ever written" started telling us about her & hubbys trip of a lifetime thru Turkey, Syria, Lebanon etc on a 97 PD. She said it just went brilliantly & no punctures. They were from Howick Auckland & she was in China teaching for a year before the trip.

What was more impressive was the announcer Noelle was knowledgeable about bikes & was fawning over the PD.

A nice start to my afternoon...

[igor]

Listening to National radio today. The lady who was introducing the daily "Best song ever written" started telling us about her & hubbys trip of a lifetime thru Turkey, Syria, Lebanon etc on a 97 PD. She said it just went brilliantly & no punctures. They were from Howick Auckland & she was in China teaching for a year before the trip.

What was more impressive was the announcer Noelle was knowledgeable about bikes & was fawning over the PD.

A nice start to my afternoon...

sounds like a bmwor'sbike. rob

PD's who wants im. total rubbish. http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Classic-vintage/auction-238242202.htm

[Padmei]

Is that a PD? It looks very road orientated vs something like Eddies beauty. Or is it the panniers that make it look too roadie?

[Box'a'bits]

Is that a PD? It looks very road orientated vs something like Eddies beauty. Or is it the panniers that make it look too roadie?

It's the same as Eddie's bike. The previous owner of Eddies bike removed the front fairing & stuck on Touratech gear.

[Taz]

Love listening to Noelle, Think it's just the accent. She was good on BFM.

[BMWST?]

Is that a PD? It looks very road orientated vs something like Eddies beauty. Or is it the panniers that make it look too roadie?

lotsa PDs never go off road...
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Classic-vintage/auction-237971455.htm

[Eddieb]

There's another GS on trade me, not PD this time though.

With panniers and new wof. Bidding starts at $4800 no reserve.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dual-purpose/auction-240215242.htm

[Eddieb]

hey Eddie. is that you on front page of advrider.com

There is a picture on the current ADVrider.com front page page rotation.

It's actually JunkManJoe riding my PD, me riding Joe's DR650 and Paladin bringing up the rear.

[_Shrek_]

went for a little scenic ride on sat from Clyde to Cromwell over the tops & back great arvo was had, went out & started the stead, while putting on my helmet looked down to see the oil pumping out

Q/ why would the filter loosen after 300k's? this is the 4th time i've changed the oil since march & has never happened b4

[Kokopelli]

Could be the $2000 O-ring. You should investigate that a bit more.

[That looks like fun]

Only 2 easy reasons for an oil filter coming loose,
Either
A Faulty filter
B Faulty fitting
And its not "A" very often at all. Always ensure you have the right filter for the job. If fitting an aftermarket filter ensure the "O" ring and the hole in the middle are the right size and thread. Check the sealing surface before fitting the new filter, not unheard of for the "O" ring to stay stuck to it when removing the old filter. Light film of oil on sealing gasket. Tighten the filter to 11Nm.
Simple as that (allegedly) :beer:

[Kokopelli]

I was talking about an airhead, different story there.

[Moki]

Only 2 easy reasons for an oil filter coming loose,
Either
A Faulty filter
B Faulty fitting
And its not "A" very often at all. Always ensure you have the right filter for the job. If fitting an aftermarket filter ensure the "O" ring and the hole in the middle are the right size and thread. Check the sealing surface before fitting the new filter, not unheard of for the "O" ring to stay stuck to it when removing the old filter. Light film of oil on sealing gasket. Tighten the filter to 11Nm.
Simple as that (allegedly) :beer:

I'll drink to that;)

[BMWST?]

front brake master cyliner is leaking.When the bike is left with the bars turned hard right i have a wee puddle of brake fluid in the handguard....Where can i get a rebuild Kit(S) master and slave from in NZ .I am pretty sure my old Ducati 900 had these brakes..(or was it my k100rs)

[GSers]

went for a little scenic ride on sat from Clyde to Cromwell over the tops & back great arvo was had, went out & started the stead, while putting on my helmet looked down to see the oil pumping out

Q/ why would the filter loosen after 300k's? this is the 4th time i've changed the oil since march & has never happened b4

Was the filter loose? I have been out to repair an 1150 GS where someone had overtightened the oil filter and the outside can had come loose where it is crimped over on the top outside edge. What a shit of a job to get that off and replace it.
The other common complaint is for the large rubber gasket to stay stuck to the block when the old filter is removed most people just drop the old filter in the drain tin an dont notice it fit a new filter and the oil blows out between the 2 gaskets.
What ever it is hope its fixed good luck
regards GSers

[Eddieb]

I'm going to regret this I know but....

I'm thinking of selling the R80G/S but still trying to work out whats it's worth in the current market. If anyone is interested PM me with specific questions, silly offers will be ignored as I'm not going to let it go for nothing. I don't need to sell it and still enjoy riding it.

There's pic of it on the first page of this thread, and in many of the earlier galleries found by following the link in my signature, screen & rack not included however though the brackets for the rack are.

Reg'd till 21/02/2010
Wof'd till 18/10/2009
Reg'd as 1986, frame # traces to 1982.
70% worn E-09 on the rear.
30% worn Vee Rubber knobbly thing on the front.
Braided front brake line
Aftermarket top triple clamp. Much stronger than original and gives 2 bar mnounting positions
Bar risers
Custom 'Rider' seat by McDonalds Motor Trimmers of Tauranga.
Full Stainless Staintune exhaust, headers right back to silencer. Worth a couple of grand on it's own.
26 litre R100GS tank, gives ~210 miles to reserve.
KM's unknown but it's a 27 year old bike so probably lots, speedo was been replaced by previous owner though the old one is included and has a broken glass. Current one reads about 13,000 miles and had 275 miles on it when I bought it. Apparently it's not the original motor.
Brackets for Ventura racks.
Progressive front springs
Hagon rear shock, a bit worn.
Homemade Alloy bash plate made by previous owner.
Gearbox, Driveshaft & Diff oils replaced June 2008.
New BMW fork gaiters, fork seals, fork oil & carbs balanced 18/08/2008
Due an oil change, new oil filter included.

Also comes with side panels, original standard springs, low front guard, spare front disc and a few odds & ends.

Goes great, hard to stop the rear spinning up out of gravel corners it's so responsive. Way lighter and smaller off road than the PD, but 90% of my riding is on-road.

[_Shrek_]

Was the filter loose? I have been out to repair an 1150 GS where someone had overtightened the oil filter and the outside can had come loose where it is crimped over on the top outside edge. What a shit of a job to get that off and replace it.
The other common complaint is for the large rubber gasket to stay stuck to the block when the old filter is removed most people just drop the old filter in the drain tin an dont notice it fit a new filter and the oil blows out between the 2 gaskets.
What ever it is hope its fixed good luck
regards GSers

changed the oil when it was hot, just finished 230k ride put new filter in done it up, run it & parked it up for the week, that night temp dropoed to around -5 am thinking that because it was still warm when i tightened the filter that because of the cold it may have shrunk enough to loosen after a long rough ride, seems to be ok now, & as it's been pointed out, just plane faulty fitting by mwah :shutup:

cheers :apint:
Shrek

[igormortis]

I'm thinking of selling the R80G/S...

Sooo tempting!

[Eddieb]

You're welcome to come over and have a look, if nothing else to advise what you reckon it would worth.

[junkmanjoe]

told ya mate.....$20

[Squiggles]

$20 and a cheeseburger

[Taz]

Anyone got an R1100GS speedo cable laying around? Mine only lasted 123000kms! Do you reckon it'd be covered under warranty?

[_Shrek_]

Anyone got an R1100GS speedo cable laying around? Mine only lasted 123000kms! Do you reckon it'd be covered under warranty?

pm or e-mail MotoRad-ical he may be able to help

[BMWST?]

front brake master cyliner is leaking.When the bike is left with the bars turned hard right i have a wee puddle of brake fluid in the handguard....Where can i get a rebuild Kit(S) master and slave from in NZ .I am pretty sure my old Ducati 900 had these brakes..(or was it my k100rs)

bump.....brembo brake bits..where from

[Moki]

bump.....brembo brake bits..where from

www.beemerboneyard.com

Email them a note about what you need if it's not listed. They don't rip-off with shipping costs and are relatively cheap compared to other BMW parts places.

Also, I seem to be the only one that's had a good experience with Chicago BMW- I ordered a FD bearing (the big Crown 899 bearing) at a listed US$130ish and for some reason they discounted to US$90.:eek5:

[Oscar]

www.beemerboneyard.com

Email them a note about what you need if it's not listed. They don't rip-off with shipping costs and are relatively cheap compared to other BMW parts places.

Also, I seem to be the only one that's had a good experience with Chicago BMW- I ordered a FD bearing (the big Crown 899 bearing) at a listed US$130ish and for some reason they discounted to US$90.:eek5:

+1
I was fixing a GS1100 last year and I can recommend these guys.

[GSers]

+1
I was fixing a GS1100 last year and I can recommend these guys.

Bemmer Boneyard mainly deal with Oil Heads not the Earlier Air Heads
Have a look at this link for places to buy parts

http://forum.bmwor.org.nz/index.php/topic,1189.0.html

Motobins should be able to help

regards GSers

[Taz]

Got my new cable and it wasn't all that badly priced. On a cents per kilometre basis it was 0.000517c per km.

[Oscar]

Bemmer Boneyard mainly deal with Oil Heads not the Earlier Air Heads
Have a look at this link for places to buy parts

http://forum.bmwor.org.nz/index.php/topic,1189.0.html

Motobins should be able to help

regards GSers

That was the only problem I had obtaining parts for that Beemer.
It wasn't mine, and I know little or nuthin' about the 'orrible krautwagons and the site was organised under "oilheads", "hexheads" and the like (surely as a German bike, there should be a "Squarehead" model).

[igormortis]

Bemmer Boneyard mainly deal with Oil Heads not the Earlier Air Heads
Have a look at this link for places to buy parts

http://forum.bmwor.org.nz/index.php/topic,1189.0.html

Motobins should be able to help

regards GSers

Agreed, but a quick browse of their site shows they do stock the 13mm Magura kit he should need for the PD.

[Eddieb]

Updated my earlier post about he R80 for sale, added wof and reg details and aftermarket top clamp.

[igormortis]

Eddie, just curious - what's the size of the E09 on the rear?

edit: asking since it looks like only size available is a 130 and I've been told that any bigger than a 120 rubs the swingarm?

[Eddieb]

Ummm, will have to check. Either 120 or 130 x 18.

[igormortis]

Did you get a chance to look Eddie?

[Eddieb]

4.10 - 18

Someone will need to convert that from old money to new money.

[NordieBoy]

4.10 - 18

someone will need to convert that from old money to new money.

120 .

[igormortis]

120 .

Thanks NordieBoy. I couldn't make sense of any conversion info I found online. :blink:

So I guess that means you can get a 120 E09 - just what I wanted to hear.

[Eddieb]

Thanks NordieBoy. I couldn't make sense of any conversion info I found online. :blink:

So I guess that means you can get a 120 E09 - just what I wanted to hear.

Sounds like you're hatching a plan.

[Eddieb]

The mighty R80G/S is officially for sale and is now on Trade Me.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dual-purpose/auction-246482702.htm

[Kokopelli]

So all this was a build up so could sell your bike? :whistle::laugh:

[Eddieb]

:whistle: :2thumbsup

[Padmei]

Had a look & looks good (apart from the hand guards- easily fixed with a can of matt black spray)

Pretty realistic start price & would be very interested in it as well as the locally listed KDX250 to start a collection of bikes I'll never get time to ride:baby:

Lotto this weekend again...

[Taz]

Lets all ask silly questions like "Does it run ok when the cylinders are covered in water?" :lol:

[igormortis]

So that's 2 G/Ses on TradeMe at the moment. The other (blue) looks like the same one sold at the beginning of this year. Not sure whether to believe the mileage on that one.

[igor]

throw that tank away. sure has had its ugly pill with that

[Eddieb]

Another nice looking PD on Trade Me

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dual-purpose/auction-249147911.htm

[Eddieb]

I've put a short vid of my R80G/S for sale idling up on Youtube.

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[igormortis]

I didn't realise it could look so clean!

Where are you at re. the PD's seals etc.? I didn't scare you off that job did I?

[Eddieb]

I didn't realise it could look so clean!

Where are you at re. the PD's seals etc.? I didn't scare you off that job did I?

:) I stopped riding it long enough to wash it. Actually I think it's still quite dirty, you can't see all the little nooks and crannies on the video.

Umm, haven't thought about the pd seals since actually, I've been too busy with other stuff. They do need doing but I don't have a torque wrench and haven't had the time.

[Box'a'bits]

:) Umm, haven't thought about the pd seals since actually, I've been too busy with other stuff. They do need doing but I don't have a torque wrench and haven't had the time.

I have a couple of torque wrenches you can borrow when you are ready..

Wondered why the R100RS wouldn't turn over. I appear to have boiled the battery. Might have overcharged a bit last time (forgot to turn the big charger off). Oh well, the batteries only 6.5 yrs old.....

Steve

[dino3310]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dual-purpose/auction-251253194.htm :drool: :drool:

[Eddieb]

They are really coming out of the woodwork now.

R80GS Basic, late model airhead and uncommon. Same as Kokopelli's. This would be a good one to get if you are in the market for one. The later running gear but a revvier motor than the 100 and lighter.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dual-purpose/auction-254570275.htm

And a project R100GS
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dual-purpose/auction-254763756.htm

[twotyred]

They are really coming out of the woodwork now.

R80GS Basic, late model airhead and uncommon. Same as Kokopelli's. This would be a good one to get if you are in the market for one. The later running gear but a revvier motor than the 100 and lighter.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dual-purpose/auction-254570275.htm

And a project R100GS
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dual-purpose/auction-254763756.htm

what does the stamping as "basic" mean in real-world terms?

[Kokopelli]

Read about it here:

http://micapeak.com/bmw/gs/gs_basic.html

[Eddieb]

Here's some footage of me on my PD, filmed by Transalper near Reefton in the South Island earlier this year on our South Island Invasion trip.

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[NordieBoy]

That 3:10 crossing was a good'un :D

[Eddieb]

Parts wanted

Sidestand springs and metal bracket as shown, got one spare your willing to sell? please let me know.

These are the same on all airhead GS's, I don't know about road bikes.

The bracket in particular is no longer available, it's the first part I've had this problem with. The springs are ex-Germany.

I have one here of my other bike so can provide measurements, at least until tomorrow when the bike they belong to goes to it's new owner.

[Kokopelli]

Send this guy a mail airheadbitz@ymail.com He is very good and has a bunch of parts.

[Eddieb]

Is that Nick P?

If so already talked to him, he doesn't have anything.

[Kokopelli]

Is that Nick P?

If so already talked to him, he doesn't have anything.

Yep, bummer. Can't you fabricate the part? It doesn't look too complicated. Auckland Engineering has springs like that.

[Eddieb]

Yep, bummer. Can't you fabricate the part? It doesn't look too complicated. Auckland Engineering has springs like that.

Could do, was just hoping I wouldn't have to go to that.

[Eddieb]

The R80G/S has gone. I'm down to to just the PD and the project now.

[marks]

The R80G/S has gone. I'm down to to just the PD and the project now.

so when are you getting a 950/990 like alll the other poofters?

[Waihou Thumper]

so when are you getting a 950/990 like alll the other poofters?

:girlfight: now now....It appears to be trendy is all....

[Eddieb]

so when are you getting a 950/990 like alll the other poofters?

If I was to get one it would be a 950, and there's none for sale in NZ.

[dino3310]

If I was to get one it would be a 950, and there's none for sale in NZ.

950SE :Punk: :whistle:

[Eddieb]

950SE :Punk: :whistle:

None of them for sale either.

[NordieBoy]

The 950 is the new DR650 :D

[dino3310]

The 950 is the new DR650 :D

yeah mate just paint it yellow or black :lol:

[Eddieb]

I wonder how either of these would go on the PD, suitably resprung of course.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-for-sale/Other/auction-257098041.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-for-sale/Suspension/auction-256265203.htm

[Box'a'bits]

I wonder how either of these would go on the PD, suitably resprung of course.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-for-sale/Other/auction-257098041.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-for-sale/Suspension/auction-256265203.htm

The issue will not be the front forks themselves, but the triple clamps, and the offset on those. The later the forks the better - the RM forks must be from the late 80's - look at the turquiose seat. Also think about what sort of life some of the forks have had, & what it might take to get these reconditioned....

[andy mac]

I was planning to swap some XR600 43mm forks onto the Transalp but lost interest when I bought the WRR. They are complete with triple clamps, brakes, wheel - seized steering head bearings & speedo drive. Because of the PD's extra weight you should use a larger motard disc. Can take any measurements if required.

[Eddieb]

I was planning to swap some XR600 43mm forks onto the Transalp but lost interest when I bought the WRR. They are complete with triple clamps, brakes, wheel - seized steering head bearings & speedo drive. Because of the PD's extra weight you should use a larger motard disc. Can take any measurements if required.

Could be worth a look.

[Kokopelli]

Experience have just traded a green R100GSPD with Ohlins. They want $6500, looks to be a tidy bike and has panniers as well.

[BEAMER89]

l just Googled it, very nice. There have been heaps of GS's for sale over the last 6 or so months.
Hey Eddie did you sell your 80G/S that was on trade me?
Cheers Graham

[Eddieb]

I did sell the G/S, still got the PD though.

[igor]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=259398005

wonder how well they splinter

[Eddieb]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=259398005

wonder how well they splinter

Haha, funny you should say that.

I was offered those before they went onto trade me, the seller is an old riding buddy of mine though he's selling them on behalf of someone else.

Now stop surfing trade me, get your ass together and get a bike sorted to come riding.

[igormortis]

Haha, funny you should say that.

I was offered those before they went onto trade me, the seller is an old riding buddy of mine though he's selling them on behalf of someone else.

Now stop surfing trade me, get your ass together and get a bike sorted to come riding.

You talkin' about me? Or do I have an equally slack-arse namesake?

[Eddieb]

You talkin' about me? Or do I have an equally slack-arse namesake?

I was, I'm getting confused in my old age, too many Igor's.

[Bald Eagle]

Raumati Sth,Kapiti
Wasn't a house in leinster ave was it, funny basement and flat out the back. ?

[barrie]

Wasn't a house in leinster ave was it, funny basement and flat out the back. ?

Just bought 93 R100 GS, Any suggestions on how to assess condition of gearbox and final drive, apparently the gearbox only gets 60-100k before needing rebuild.How do you know if gearbox is noisy or U joints in drive shaft are worn without stripping everything. Also is gearbox doable yourself with decent workshop and tools. Cheers

[Kokopelli]

I see paranoia has already set in. I am an expert at that myself:cool:.

Airheads always sound like they are about to self destruct, that's no cause for alarm. They are pretty easy to work on and all parts can be bought, well almost all. Eddie's found one that can't be bought anymore.

If you're in Auckland I'd be happy to have a look at your bike. Otherwise get someone who knows airheads to have a look. Island Bay, that's Wellington isn't it? Go see Michael at Motorad, I am sure he'd have a quick look at it.

[Eddieb]

Yep, an airhead should sound like a pocket of loose change. It's when it's quiet that you have to worry.

And the one part no longer available is the metal bracket the springs attach to on the sidestand, minor in the greater scheme of things.

[BMWST?]

Just bought 93 R100 GS, Any suggestions on how to assess condition of gearbox and final drive, apparently the gearbox only gets 60-100k before needing rebuild.How do you know if gearbox is noisy or U joints in drive shaft are worn without stripping everything. Also is gearbox doable yourself with decent workshop and tools. Cheers

rear wheel should spin by hand in neutral nice and freely and no noise.If you are in welly and you want it checked Mike Dobson at motorad will check it.Dont know about gearbox

[BMWST?]

Wasn't a house in leinster ave was it, funny basement and flat out the back. ?

steep drive bikes kept on a raised floor in a room under the house

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3348/3427860220_0b552a3c0f.jpg

[barrie]

Thanks for the advice, Think I'll drop it into motorad and get a decent assessment done. Cheers.

[Clean_up]

Hi all, just a few questions...i am thinking of getting a 1200gs or gs adventure.
whats the deal with having to get the service done by BMW? are you able to get them serviced by a general bike mechanic?
If ya don't get them serviced by BMW can you get aftermarket parts that are somewhat cheaper? I hear brake pads alone cost almost $400 a set?? I really love the look of these bikes, and if i got one would definitely want to put it to good use :)

[BMWST?]

Hi all, just a few questions...i am thinking of getting a 1200gs or gs adventure.
whats the deal with having to get the service done by BMW? are you able to get them serviced by a general bike mechanic?
If ya don't get them serviced by BMW can you get aftermarket parts that are somewhat cheaper? I hear brake pads alone cost almost $400 a set?? I really love the look of these bikes, and if i got one would definitely want to put it to good use :)

i would get it serviced by dealer until out of warranty....absolutely no excuses then.If its a older bike get t serviced wherever.They do have some things that need resetting by a BMW service computer I think.Search the web,ADV rider have a huge forum just on these bikes.I take internet stuff with a grain of salt.

[Eddieb]

This is pretty cool.

A Ride Report of a 1983 crossing of the Canning Stock Route in Aus on a pair of R80's, including pics and digitised super 8 video footage taken on the trip.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=547675

[Kokopelli]

http://www.bmwboxersupplies.com/product_info.php/cPath/11/products_id/38

http://www.bmwboxersupplies.com/images/Veren%20zijstaander%20set-160x120.png

[Eddieb]

Thanks Alex, looks like i better get the credit card out.

[Padmei]

You done the CSR Eddie? I can't wait to get some money together & see some of these tracks they talk about.

[Eddieb]

CSR?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;

[Padmei]

CSR?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;

Canning Stock Route...

[Eddieb]

No, would love to though. Quite keen on doing at least a half lap of Aus.

[igor]

well ya better get rid of that money pit ya just bought then :)

[Eddieb]

http://www.bmwboxersupplies.com/product_info.php/cPath/11/products_id/38

http://www.bmwboxersupplies.com/images/Veren%20zijstaander%20set-160x120.png

I went to place an order tonight for that and half a dozen spokes and they want 24 euro for shipping! have emailed them to see what the real cost will be as thats daylight robbery.

[igor]

Eddie B. what length spokes ya want. I have numerous for R100GS. Got given in a purchase I made a while back. IGOR

[BMWST?]

if you are not in a hurry ask them send surface post

[Padmei]

This vid is pretty good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFRW_PkWc14

The guy seems to handle the big bikes pretty well.

[Kokopelli]

That't a bit rich. I will be in Germany during July, if your not in a rush I could get you the parts. I suspect that shipping from Holland to Germany would be a lot cheaper. With a bit of luck I could find an alternative source for the parts.

[Eddieb]

I got a reply today saying 24 euro's was the price for shipping. I could probably get one made here for half that.

[Kokopelli]

For sure, it's not hard to make this part.

[JATZ]

Fair price ?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dual-purpose/auction-274115097.htm

[Padmei]

That's going straight to the ...

[Kokopelli]

Depends how much you value a larger tank and an extended swing arm. To replicate it all would cost more. It's a cool looking bike, but to be fair, you could probably get a 950 for this sort of money. Or an almost new X-challenge.

[JATZ]

That's going straight to the ...

Thought you might like it,I thought of posting it up on the wall m'self.

[NordieBoy]

Not often someone "upgrades" to DR650 forks :D

[Eddieb]

That looks suspiscously(sp) like Guzzi Tony's bike. It is well set up and gets along well. As Alex said if it's your thing you couldn't do it for cheaper.

[JATZ]

I could almost see m'self wobbling round the countryside on it. Certainly looks the shiz, I just thought 12500 was a little steep for a 23yr old bike with 130000 odd k's.

Actually the BIG is newer and has less k's, wonder if I could get more for it :D

[junkmanjoe]

Rode along side this bike,,, its a beast, and one mother tank,,it holds more fuel than my DR safari tank did..

whats this Jatz a maybe BIG for sale......................

JMJ

[BMWST?]

Rode along side this bike,,, its a beast, and one mother tank,,it holds more fuel than my DR safari tank did..

whats this Jatz a maybe BIG for sale......................

JMJ

they are a nice bike to ride.Very well balanced and much easier to ride at low speeds than their appearance suggests.Nice on the road too .40 l could be good for 700 ks.If i fill the pd to the very top i get over 500 k before reserve which is about 30 L used.If you completed the twin plug conversion,one of the main benefits is even better fuel range.

[JATZ]

Rode along side this bike,,, its a beast, and one mother tank,,it holds more fuel than my DR safari tank did..

whats this Jatz a maybe BIG for sale......................

JMJ

NO ! the Big will not be for sale, unless somone offers stupid amounts of cash for it :D

[Padmei]

What is the tein plug conversion?

[igor]

hey eddie u want those spokes i got, never heard back from ya igor

[dino3310]

Actually the BIG is newer and has less k's, wonder if I could get more for it :D
i got offerd 7k for mine:shit:..... after it went:crybaby:

sorry:Offtopic:

[junkmanjoe]

i got offerd 7k for mine:shit:..... after it went:crybaby:

sorry:Offtopic:

Mate, bet that riped ya undies......

JMJ

[dino3310]

especially now mate

[BMWST?]

What is the tein plug conversion?

twin spark plugs.Shorter flame path allows higher comp and more advanced ignition and i beleive leaner mixtures

[Box'a'bits]

twin spark plugs.Shorter flame path allows higher comp and more advanced ignition and i beleive leaner mixtures
Those benefits are mainly for a worked motor.

For the earlier 9.5:1 motor it gave easier starting, better & smoother running in the lower rev range, better tolerance for lower octane fuels, and potentially lower engine temps. Or at least that why I did mine.

For Africa bikes, it gave in built redundancies (twin coil pack, 4 spark plug leads, 4 spark plugs).

Also higher cost, and a bucket load of complexity to set up properly.

Steve

[Padmei]

thanks. I guess a new head is required?

[NordieBoy]

twin spark plugs.Shorter flame path allows higher comp and more advanced ignition and i beleive leaner mixtures

Main thing is it's trying for a complete fuel burn in a large cylinder.

That's why the big race singles use it too.

[BMWST?]

thanks. I guess a new head is required?

new head not required,just drill and tap existing head(s).

[BMWST?]

thanks. I guess a new head is required?

new head not required,just drill and tap existing head(s).

[Padmei]

really? you having me on?

[Eddieb]

really? you having me on?

Nope, it's normally done with the original donor heads.

[BMWST?]

Nope, it's normally done with the original donor heads.

there is a guy in welly who used to do it.I dont know if he still does.there was a discussion on the kiwi air heads site about it.

[Newguy]

there is a guy in welly who used to do it.I dont know if he still does.there was a discussion on the kiwi air heads site about it.

I came across this a while ago. http://www.rtwinworks.co.nz/index.html
I have asked many people about twin plugging and all of them have told me that they would not go through the effort again. With a properly ported head and shaped squishband you can accomplish the same performance and fuel usage results.

[Newguy]

Don't think I've posted pics of my little piggy here yet. Bought her off trade me in a sad state.
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_J_C8w7718vM/S4suwJGc9yI/AAAAAAAACsg/na_70qN4oAY/r100.jpg

Stripped her down and had her sandblasted and powdercoated. Also ordered a big box of goodies from Motorworks in the UK.
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_J_C8w7718vM/S2Jx4uWFR5I/AAAAAAAACW4/ILfk1301NJk/s640/SANY0198.JPG

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_J_C8w7718vM/S1DRwzyT7oI/AAAAAAAACQM/-2s4pfi6P6c/s640/SANY0161.JPG

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_J_C8w7718vM/S2ZMQB_BnnI/AAAAAAAACZo/xF4y-irNuPo/s640/SANY0202.JPG

Did a brake upgrade to a R1100 caliper (ebay about $65 incl shipping, cheaper than the service kit for the old one, pads not to bad either)
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_J_C8w7718vM/S2qmVMFTrBI/AAAAAAAACaU/4xOf25razzs/s640/SANY0213.JPG

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_J_C8w7718vM/S3RN-F77UOI/AAAAAAAACc0/VWS4XHN-rkw/s640/SANY0248.JPG

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_J_C8w7718vM/S4swhT3dc_I/AAAAAAAACso/V9lt6WDTswE/s640/100_1236.JPG

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_J_C8w7718vM/S4W1sFEQ8FI/AAAAAAAACqo/Jc_BMzaBqUg/s640/SANY0304.JPG

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_J_C8w7718vM/S35R7s7-q2I/AAAAAAAAClw/YY5kRrEzEkA/s640/100_1192.JPG

Just love this bike. This is my second airhead, my first paralever.
previous one was this 81 G/s
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_J_C8w7718vM/R44zYdPjN1I/AAAAAAAAAW4/tG-spePrhh0/s720/100_0994.JPG

[Padmei]

Big difference with the paint job there newguy. It looks great. Is it in SA now or in NZ?

[Newguy]

Big difference with the paint job there newguy. It looks great. Is it in SA now or in NZ?

In Auckland at the moment. Will do a round trip of south island somewhere in mid march. leaving back to SA in mid May.

[Padmei]

This twin spark thing has me intrigued. Do you just find a nice spot to drill & tap & go for it or are the heads already manufactured ready for another sparkplug.

What's a sqishband?

[Newguy]

This twin spark thing has me intrigued. Do you just find a nice spot to drill & tap & go for it or are the heads already manufactured ready for another sparkplug.

What's a sqishband?

Squishband basically refers to the shaping of the head in the combustion chamber. the idea to get the gas (air/fuel) spread to give fairly equal combustion (easier on a thumper as plug is usually in the middle). bit more complicated with the off center airhead.
this is why some people do a twin plug setup.
http://www.motorcycle.com/images/content/How-To/Fig_02.jpg

As for the modification of the heads, the guys that know what they are doing will drill and tap it for you, usually with a smaller sized plug. If the person doing the mod does not know what he is doing, then it may result in a cracked head. The biggest problem is not actually setting up the twin plug system, but to get the timing right. Expensive timing units with various advance curves are required to really get benefit. these guys make unit that can be used http://www.omegaignitions.com/

good reading here
http://www.gunsmoke.com/motorcycling/r100gs/dual_plug/

[Eddieb]

Have a look at a picture of a motor. The standard spark plug is top centre and the cooling fins and head are shaped to provide the gap for where the spark plug hole is located.

The lower half of the head is a mirror image of the upper half except for the existence of the actual plug hole, so the natural and obvious place to drill a 2nd hole is already there. You 'just' have to drill and tap the new hole. Whether thats by accident or design I have no idea.

As Newguy mentions however thats the easy bit. You then need to get the timing set up with additional sensors, buy and find how and where to mount a 2nd coil etc.

[Eddieb]

I went exploring today, found some interesting and not so interesting things.

A map/compass thingy in top of Colson's Hill with the metropolis of Tokoroa in the background
http://ckeq6w.bay.livefilestore.com/y1p1u_hhwk09RsdxJl7IyE-YZn1huEk6Ar-4TL7RJHEjK0BAWKV8RXGF9yvCkGYGoM-trKRLhxhUs6ucVsqzL2vMgZFeLE5rdM2/DSCF3603.jpg

Suspension bridge south of Turangi
http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1p8LYI0yCvCPHUx1hMbIMzRxj-BQav2d2dNgNh9Xpb8usy1-1dkOIW_rRDQ5XyATu7x6d_t9LhZgvUNqX8jtCqGA/DSCF3607.jpg

Cool backroads
http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pZAK4D-ab1CqpEuPSffj5qoMoI4BFXXTJCQJH5qfnsgs3bxfiLfS5QZiS srXmSWa-JCeKOBjsFhFgtc3l6QavVA/DSCF3614.jpg

With waterfalls
http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1p5SNB1rtyOpXH0rMu2k96Q3qFJGHu43KodWFhy4kE7Gqvzpe baRyeq2O3cClLkzU813s9IJZ1zbEv1PGp9DFqoQ/DSCF3612.jpg

[Eddieb]

Huge water pipes coming out of the ground
http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pRcqj1Qvp8_TkjIlA_SkzjW222MFkSrVCUdxdoxbIMBPLsJo YZ_liEqQ8IqnTR4PIHngTCud62veLUHN3_ROdJw/DSCF3618.jpg

And going back into the ground
http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pVnTTIY0e9y6uML4c_C85b7fBCoZSA6Ss0holWFimwX2QSSY Nmu8zmBR76vOGJPZRQn2HMNLPyUJNGIX_hFACGQ/DSCF3622.jpg

With the bike for scale
http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pbtK2oNtOaGOaPay1yTDfBI9hUdSxj84AnWC8aeCaAUj_-U2SbG87B4KJ97AncIVp8SDFDs7E-FWvX1JzT0F-lg/DSCF3625.jpg

More cool tracks
http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pimZh0fSrPt_3osmBgHulpasTrQZYxR-1zdzlfBjLtrMDSNsWz1Zv0IPJsXAgxQajLEn0H8QcluH78WewL U6LKg/DSCF3629b.jpg

[Eddieb]

Then things got better

http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pNx9xb-6GUODHzTWyDhbQLMljpErlL_YeAMKpjfgpKkzD3BKmwHKchALw RD7CXSoxPC9wIRy8wvAPWJp5TYjEqg/DSCF3630.jpg

http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pr26j9qTG74YkdRPDpqIeDhSTMWtYzV3lfutI-PCQaC32dZT3E9bzq6OuBIPHN4_OxlP5QjQS3A6x94x0iY4brg/DSCF3632.jpg

http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pyDgqORssqcKj-oMNW4E33-5PCsLtUPuN4jblili_EuDYsErimAh6rb7yxWBYGfqSQAUD-La8YprI84RRb4aYHw/DSCF3641b.jpg

http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1prW2Bvxd0nogWXaiWINp-z5GBJZp4PbUH2rCgtZQmbmalzLFdEZWevQyYIQ2cS9voPZP2EB 3-YQyxFeQ3_5y_aA/DSCF3646.jpg

[Newguy]

very nice, those track do look really cool.

updated to your gps pack?

[BMWST?]

Huge water pipes coming out of the ground
http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pRcqj1Qvp8_TkjIlA_SkzjW222MFkSrVCUdxdoxbIMBPLsJo YZ_liEqQ8IqnTR4PIHngTCud62veLUHN3_ROdJw/DSCF3618.jpg

And going back into the ground
http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pVnTTIY0e9y6uML4c_C85b7fBCoZSA6Ss0holWFimwX2QSSY Nmu8zmBR76vOGJPZRQn2HMNLPyUJNGIX_hFACGQ/DSCF3622.jpg

With the bike for scale
http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pbtK2oNtOaGOaPay1yTDfBI9hUdSxj84AnWC8aeCaAUj_-U2SbG87B4KJ97AncIVp8SDFDs7E-FWvX1JzT0F-lg/DSCF3625.jpg



part of the Rangipo Power scheme,this water is collected far south of here,goes through rangipo power station,out to Poutu Canal then into lake Taupo via Tokaanu Power Station,and then through all the Waikato stations

[dino3310]

well youve had one bloody awesome day mate...
wheres the pines and tassock is that around Rotoiara some where

[Eddieb]

part of the Rangipo Power scheme,this water is collected far south of here,goes through rangipo power station,out to Poutu Canal then into lake Taupo via Tokaanu Power Station,and then through all the Waikato stations

Yep, I went through the power station either just before or just after it opened. I also had a look at the Poutu canal today, with the video camera going.

[Eddieb]

well youve had one bloody awesome day mate...
wheres the pines and tassock is that around Rotoiara some where

It was a transit day mostly actually, Hamilton back to Welly but i did some exploring on the way. The tussock is nothern desert road. It would be well worth checking out who owns it/what access is required as it looks like there's huge potential there. I only went a few hundred metres off the road.

[dino3310]

looks like a good spot to take the shooter into aswell, we could spotlight of the PD :lol:

[Padmei]

Very interesting reading Newguy. After seeing the head I see what you mean Eddie - the location of the sprakplug was the thing that intersted me. After reading about the additional wiring requirements I think the author summed it up when he mentioned it being a process not for the faint of heart nor short of funds.

[Squiggles]

I see an old school boxer twin in my future... :shit:

[NordieBoy]

As Newguy mentions however thats the easy bit. You then need to get the timing set up with additional sensors, buy and find how and where to mount a 2nd coil etc.

The timing bit is interesting.

The DR just fires both plugs at the same time.

[Box'a'bits]

The issues re timing is not between the two plugs (though there has been chatter about that). It more abut the optimal time for the plugs to fire, which is dependent on RPM. That is why an electronic solution is probably better, in that the advance can be modified as revs increase . The older boxers use a mechanical advance system.

[Phreaky Phil]

My GS is dual plugged. I am using a coil pack from a Mitsi car. It has 2 twin outlet coils in one pack. I am running 2 ignition modules triggered by the stock "Bean Can"

[Padmei]

How do you find it Phil? did you do the conversion or was it done before you got it?

[Newguy]

My GS is dual plugged. I am using a coil pack from a Mitsi car. It has 2 twin outlet coils in one pack. I am running 2 ignition modules triggered by the stock "Bean Can"

wow, ok thats a new one for me. 2 x CDI's. What voltage regulator have you got going there?

[Phreaky Phil]

I did the conversion. I figured 2 ignition modules gave the system some "redundancy" If one fails it will keep on running. With the help of a mate who is a mechanical tutor we tested the stock coils and the mitsi coil to make sure it wouldnt draw to much current. I ordered another part of the wiring loom with the plug on it and spliced that in. Michael Dobson from Motorad in Welli organised the head drilling for the extra plug. Been running for 30000km with no problems.
I have an Enduralast 450watt charging system as I found out that the extra 2.5amps that the extra ignition draws put me on the maximum of the stock system, and heated grips etc put it over the top. The stock system doesnt get full charge till 4000rpm either

[Box'a'bits]

I did the conversion. I figured 2 ignition modules gave the system some "redundancy" If one fails it will keep on running. With the help of a mate who is a mechanical tutor we tested the stock coils and the mitsi coil to make sure it wouldnt draw to much current. I ordered another part of the wiring loom with the plug on it and spliced that in. Michael Dobson from Motorad in Welli organised the head drilling for the extra plug. Been running for 30000km with no problems.
I have an Enduralast 450watt charging system as I found out that the extra 2.5amps that the extra ignition draws put me on the maximum of the stock system, and heated grips etc put it over the top. The stock system doesnt get full charge till 4000rpm either
I've got the Endurolast alternator as well, & its great. I've had it on a couple of boxers now. I feel it deals to a lot of the stock systems issues, but also makes more charge at lower revs, brilliant for commuting, or slow running.

The downside of the Endurolast was that I couldn't run the Omega (?) ignition that runs off the crank, with its programable maps. Instead I run a Boyer micro-digital system, which is supposed to be optimised for dual plugs. Remembering I replaced points & a mehanical advance (though now I see some people in the US are swapping back!). I really need to book dyno time to ensure that its actually running at optimised levels....However it has run sweetly, so I haven't really felt a pressing need to do this.

Mike Dodson at Motorad organised an Engineer at Petone to drill the twin plug holes for me. The bottom side runs a shorter reach & smaller plug. However I have seen elsewhere some people weld in an alloy washer to allow normal length plugs, so top & bottom as interchangeable.

[Eddieb]

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[igor]

eddie can ya mark on a map where you entered and exited please.I take it is SH1 around Rangipo thanks

[Eddieb]

eddie can ya mark on a map where you entered and exited please.I take it is SH1 around Rangipo thanks

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[Newguy]

Made a small mod to me rear fender
I've always thought the rear fender on the GS look a bit outdated compared to the rest of the bike. I like the classic look, but want to modernise it just a tad. So I combined the original fender with an Acerbis Nost rear fender.
I think the results aren't to bad. basically I chopped up the original and split it into 2 pieces. still used the original front bit to keep dirt off the battery.
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_J_C8w7718vM/S43SH5tU7aI/AAAAAAAACw0/kvubqwjGJyc/s640/100_1246.JPG
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_J_C8w7718vM/S43SDeQvn0I/AAAAAAAACws/4VpmW0rP1no/s640/100_1244.JPG

[Eddieb]

Siebenrock 1000cc kit listed on Trade Me, has done 20,000km's.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-for-sale/Pistons-rings/auction-275222247.htm

[NordieBoy]

Must resist commenting.......

[NordieBoy]

Sod it!



Cock adjuster?
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_J_C8w7718vM/S43SH5tU7aI/AAAAAAAACw0/kvubqwjGJyc/s640/100_1246.JPG



Sorry. The voices made me do it.

[Newguy]

:( and it only goes up to 10mm


hehe

[Newguy]

seem to have repeated myself

[BMWST?]

that modified R80 seems to have gone already..

[Phreaky Phil]

that modified R80 seems to have gone already..
I take it you mean the one on trademe. Interesting to see if it sold.

[BMWST?]

I take it you mean the one on trademe. Interesting to see if it sold.

yep the extended swingarm,1000 cylinderdr 650 fork etc .i assume it has sold ,classifieds normally run longer than that

[Phreaky Phil]

I wonder what my ones worth then ?

[igor]

$2k with all those blooody mods

[Eddieb]

$2k with all those blooody mods

Yeah it's hardly original, $1500 with all the crap that comes with it and i'd be doing you a favour ;)

[igor]

thats a bit harsh Eddie. I thought $2K was more than fair, now ya just takin the piss

[Padmei]

Lets split the diff. $1800 & that's final

[Phreaky Phil]

Jeeeezzzz. !!! Ive only shown ya some of the mods. I wont show ya the rest or the price will go down:weep:

[Eddieb]

Speaking of which, hows that rear disc conversion holding up now it's been on a while?

[Phreaky Phil]

Speaking of which, hows that rear disc conversion holding up now it's been on a while?

Absolutely brilliant. Went down South over Xmas. That was another 4000km so probably done 6000km with it now. So different having some real braking power without having to stand on the pedal, especially 2 up and loaded. Having some power in the back seems to take a bit of the focus off the weak front brake. Have to do something about that to, one day.

[Newguy]

Is there a thread on the disc conversion, I'm not having luck with the search engine...

[Eddieb]

Yep, but it's not on KB.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=432979

[Newguy]

Thanks Eddie

[BMWST?]

have you done your front brake eddie?

[Eddieb]

Done? I have fitted a RF900 caliper to it. It hasn't made a significant improvement. I am using the pads that came with the caliper and I wonder if they have had oil spilt on them or something as my experience doesn't match what others report from the same upgrade.

[igor]

heres the easiest way to find out how to mod ya GS bike :) http://www.advrider.com/forums/search.php?searchid=136941

[Padmei]

Airhead fan here with some noob questions...
Essentially what are the major differences between a GS & 'normal' airhead?

Is it feasible to get an old airhead & change a few things to get it GS-ish or wait till a GS comes up for sale?

I'm looking for a future project bike that doesn't have to go up firebreaks etc just tootle around gravel roads, Porika etc & I like the basic look of the oldies.

Thanks in advance.

[BMWST?]

engine and gearbox and even the frames are the same i think.the GS has long suspension and a bash plate plus the bigger tank(s).

[Eddieb]

The top mounting point for the rear shock is different on the GS, stronger design and slightly different location. Rear shock is longer and swing arm/diff mount is also different location I believe.

Front forks are longer, with one or 2 road model exceptions that are the same, usually the RT or ST. I suspect there may be some subtle motor differences as there's different carb settings and power outputs. The rest as far as I am aware is just cosmetic in regard to tanks, instruments, pegs etc.

[Padmei]

Thanks. Where's the best site to get info on doing something like this?

[igor]

http://www.ukgser.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=51

doa search here they will tell. question has been asked many times

[Eddieb]

I know for the earlier 'mono' swingarm G/S's the rear subframe is different. I have a spare G/S subframe hanging in the garage in case I ever want to do a road bike conversion.

[Padmei]

Thanks Eddie. I'm officially now a Tosser (well don't own one just read about them). Went into GSers & lots of info in there. Are the drive shafts all the same length from RT ST to GS from Mono to para ?

[Eddieb]

Now thats a level of geek I haven't attained.

[Padmei]

Shit I just woke up this morning with a beard & can't find my pipe anywhere...

[Eddieb]

Shit I just woke up this morning with a beard & can't find my pipe anywhere...
What about your slippers? can't be forgetting them either.

[Aslan]

Clearly the AirHeads are great machines with a strong following - however there are a number of positive threads on ADV and UKGSer attesting to the longevity of the 11XX series

See especially this one has clocked over 400,000 miles http://www.lonestarcycle.com/hank3.htm

Carpe Diem - Aslan :scooter:

[Kokopelli]

Hi Aslan,

will you be riding your 1150 at the CCA? Mine has been retired to touring and commuting duties, with the occasional gravel run thrown in. I am sure it will hit 200000km before I'll get a new one, got about three years to go. I am getting better at picking it up, too. Dropped it at work last week outside work. I have to do a 90 degree turn, immediately after I take it off the main stand, in order to squeeze past a post and a wall. This works well feet up, unless of course the thing decides to stall. No harm done, apart from a dent in the concrete.

[Aslan]

Hi Aslan,

will you be riding your 1150 at the CCA? Mine has been retired to touring and commuting duties, with the occasional gravel run thrown in. I am sure it will hit 200000km before I'll get a new one, got about three years to go. I am getting better at picking it up, too. Dropped it at work last week outside work. I have to do a 90 degree turn, immediately after I take it off the main stand, in order to squeeze past a post and a wall. This works well feet up, unless of course the thing decides to stall. No harm done, apart from a dent in the concrete.

Gidday Alex - good to get your response - no I'm a wus - I prefer the extra confidence I get from riding a lighter machine on adventure rides like the Dusty Butt and CCA - so no, I plan on using the DR650 on Saturday. I do have renewed affection for my 1150 though and like you see mine as a 'keeper' - great for long rides with all road surfaces. I may use mine on Clint's MMMM ride this winter if I'm feeling brave.

Inshallah - I'll see you at Plimmerton this Saturday AM - yet to fit a Mitas E09 to the rear of the DR this week - Ciao Aslan aka Stephen O

[Eddieb]

I'm never going to be able to advertise this bike as 'careful owner, only ridden to the local shops' if I keep this up am I.

[That looks like fun]

Tell em you were checking the tread depth :innocent:

[Newguy]

I'm never going to be able to advertise this bike as 'careful owner, only ridden to the local shops' if I keep this up am I.

:shifty: mwhuhahaha

[Eddieb]

What that pic doesn't tell you is that we were coming from the left, so the bike actually spun 180 degrees while sliding, and that it's actually about 1 1/2 metres down that bank which was near vertical. Track level was about shoulder height where I am standing. It took all 5 of us to right it and drag/push it back onto the track.

Where I am standing is where i landed.

[Box'a'bits]

What that pic doesn't tell you is that we were coming from the left, so the bike actually spun 180 degrees while sliding, and that it's actually about 1 1/2 metres down that bank which was near vertical. Track level was about shoulder height where I am standing. It took all 5 of us to right it and drag/push it back onto the track.

Where I am standing is where i landed.
Excessive speed?

Also shows how slippery the longer grass is. :blink: You're tyres are clean, so it wasn't mud.. Whilst you noted you are going to replace tyres, they don't seem THAT bad in the photos. Or did you just do that to polish the sump guard?

See that you turned a few divots on the way down. Hope you replaced those (got to keep the landowners happy). :yes:

[Eddieb]

Excessive speed?

Also shows how slippery the longer grass is. :blink: You're tyres are clean, so it wasn't mud.. Whilst you noted you are going to replace tyres, they don't seem THAT bad in the photos. Or did you just do that to polish the sump guard?

See that you turned a few divots on the way down. Hope you replaced those (got to keep the landowners happy). :yes:

I was doing 35 maybe 40 km/h. It was all the wet grass on a gentle corner. It's a lovely piece of track that.

[junkmanjoe]

well, i, i, just dont know what to say......
not sure i want to follow you at the weekend now.........

JMJ

[Newguy]

. It took all 5 of us to right it and drag/push it back onto the track.


Makes you wonder what you would do if you were riding alone. perhaps some rope and a ratchet packed away under the seat would come in handy combined with a nearby tree.

[Eddieb]

There's a very nice looking PD with full luggage for sale in Wanaka, $6200

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dual-purpose/auction-278551979.htm

[Squiggles]

There's a very nice looking PD with full luggage for sale in Wanaka, $6200

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dual-purpose/auction-278551979.htm

Bit of me price range :cry:

[BMWST?]

jeepers who dreamt up the colour schemes!?

[Eddieb]

Someone with a better sense of colour that whoever did the psychedelic mid 90's Dr650 ones. Not much more sense though.

[NordieBoy]

jeepers who dreamt up the colour schemes!?

never caused him a headache?

Is he blind!

[Squiggles]

So for those with short memories (me), whats the diff between that there GSPD and the the GS "Adventure" thats 3.5k on tardme? beyond the tank being bigger?

[Eddieb]

So for those with short memories (me), whats the diff between that there GSPD and the the GS "Adventure" thats 3.5k on tardme? beyond the tank being bigger?

Thats about it really. though the front fairing is a better shape on the PD, it looks a bit 'after thought' on the standard GS i think. There may be small differences in the instrumentation layout and gauges. If your lucky the PD may have factory heated grips, I don't know if the standard bike had them or not.

And someone has put low pipes on the standard one and it has the earlier style rocker covers which aren't quite as crash proof as the black ones.

They are same motor, chassis, wheels, brakes etc though so are just as capable as each other. The PD would be a bit heavier but would go a bit further per tank, and just looks cooler.

The PD has the little bikini fairing in front of the headers though if you are going to do anything more than a gravel road on it I'd recommend taking if off. The mounts are weak and it gets pushed back against the exhaust and melts. DAMHIK.

[Southern man]

Just purchased a 2006 1200gs. Have to wait a week for them to fit new tyres and service. Can't wait. Will be a bit different from the old bandit but will be great to explore some new country.