Giving way to right-turning vehicles?

[Skyryder]

Yes. So we have a T intersection, no give way or stop signs. Vehicle A wants to turn right off the through road onto the side street; vehicle B, coming out of the side street, wants to turn right onto the through road; vehicle C, coming down the through road in the opposite direction to A, wants to turn left.

B has right of way. A gives way to both B Without B C gives way to A.

This is the anomily of NZ driving. There was a time when C had the right of way.


B is the only vehicle that can proceed without giving way to any vehicle. Usually C would turn left at time that B turns right as A has to give way to B.



Skyryder

[homer]

This man speaks the truth.

The entire give way system can be summed up in a few words.

Give way to anyone who would hit your driver's door.

It's the law, and it happens to coincide with natural law also, which should make it easy for the simple folk.

As for numbnuts drivers not understanding that simple all encompassing law, do you really think chaning the law will help them?

Yeah its so simple its just so funny people cant figure it out .

heres another way to remember
the smallest turning vehicle always gives way .
im so not going in to it any more , its such a stupid rule and its what all driving follows.

[Jiminy]

We should be giving way to the left like they do in Europe (drive on the right - give way to the right, drive on the left - give way to the left).

Mmmmmmh, I don't agree. Too many people already drive on the wrong side of the road when abroad, I don't want them to also have to think about which side has right of way.

Nothing difficult about the right hand rule. (...)

The only exception to this is (...)

Exceptions are the problem

I tend to ignore the rule carefully as most people ignore it and expect you to do so. But caution is king.

[The Stranger:Me]

Yeah its so simple its just so funny people cant figure it out .

You need not figure them out, simply adhere to them.

Look over here ragingknob and fizbin et al can't even work out that you are meant to drive in the Left lane on the motorway. Even when it is pointed out to them in the road code they steadfastly refuse to believe that it is law.
Shall we change that too?

No amount of changing the laws is going to create compliance.
You would need to change the people, how you do that (within the current murder laws) I have no idea.

[homer]

were not changing anything , well im not just a couple of simple points and your sweet

[Usarka]

This thread is perfect example of why changing the give way laws wont make a japs snatch of a difference. People just can't grasp road rules in this country, whaddever they be.

(edit, what he 2 above said)

[homer]

It's not simple at all. You have to look for the give way or stop sign on the side road. If we gave way to the left we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

Part of the function of road rules is to mirror common sense. It seems to me that, in this case, it does not.

If you gave way to the left your on the wrong side of the road ,
or in the wrong country
think about it

[McJim]

It's such an easy rule! Translate it into the following to make it even easier...

If the other car will KILL YOU (because it hit you in the driver's door) ... give way to it. (Insert "right arm" for "driver's door" as appropriate on a m/c)

Hmm. I was going straight ahead - the oncoming car was turning to his right. He turned anyway and hit me in the drivers door and yet he was found to be at fault not me.

Obviously some qualification involved hence maybe not so simple.

or...

How come the rest of the world does it differently with no issues at all and yet New Zealand has a 'simple' rule that no-one understands?

[homer]

overseas"im not 100% sure if it was germany thought it was , you actually pass on the left hand side on a passing lane .
makes sence to me as , if you want to pass then you have to manouver your vehicle , not like here where you pass in the middle and then end up in a different lane, then you have to ,manouver back to the standard flow, which then merges back to where you just passed .

now is that fucked or what

[The Stranger:Me]

How come the rest of the world does it differently with no issues at all and yet New Zealand has a 'simple' rule that no-one understands?

with no issues at all??
Really?
I stand corrected, I am all for the change then.

[The Stranger:Me]

overseas"im not 100% sure if it was germany thought it was , you actually pass on the left hand side on a passing lane .
makes sence to me as , if you want to pass then you have to manouver your vehicle , not like here where you pass in the middle and then end up in a different lane, then you have to ,manouver back to the standard flow, which then merges back to where you just passed .

now is that fucked or what

The Germans drive on the RHS of the road.
So wouldn't passing on the left essentially be the same as we have here.
Truely revolutionary!

[Radar]

I live in a suburb that is composed almost entirely of intersections like this. No-one is entirely sure what to do, but consensus seems to be that you are supposed to give way to the left hand vehicle
...

Same down here, in fact everywhere I have been. No seems to be aware of this law. In fact what happens is that instead of giving way, the vehicle stops (waiting to turn) across your path so that you cannot turn.

What a stupid screw up of a rode code rule. Thanks for starting this thread - it is good to know, for those who going for their restricted or full.

[homer]

The Germans drive on the RHS of the road.
So wouldn't passing on the left essentially be the same as we have here.
Truely revolutionary!

wasnt in germany then

maybe in the states i dont recall
but you drive in the middle and passing is on the left .
and theres patrol cars and vans that ticket you for going to slow
seen it on tv
think if your traveling slower than 160 km you get a ticket

[swbarnett]

Too many people already drive on the wrong side of the road when abroad, I don't want them to also have to think about which side has right of way.

I agree. This is why they changed the give way rule from left to right.

What I'm really saying is that we should give way to the same side we drive on. I know it would be hard but this can also be achieved if we follow Europe et al. and drive on the right while still giving way to the right. The confusion then goes away completely (for both which side to drive and give way).

[Ixion]

B has right of way. A gives way to both B Without B C gives way to A.

This is the anomily of NZ driving. There was a time when C had the right of way.


B is the only vehicle that can proceed without giving way to any vehicle. Usually C would turn left at time that B turns right as A has to give way to B.



Skyryder

Yes. And it is breathtakingly simple. I cannot believe that any creature with enough sentience to keep breathing cannot understand it, so I think those who complain are simply foreigners who want to complain about anything that is different to "back home" just for the sake of it.

C is turning left, so he is bottom of the heap and must give to everybody.

A and B are both turning right so are on equal terms. But when A looks to his right he sees B , so he must give way.

Sorted. Now, really, how hard was that. And are you having trouble figuring out the breathing thing?