Lane-splitting at 90kph!

[fizbin]

O.K. WTF
Some is alive by the grace of my quick reactions
This moring on my way to work (in my cage ) traveling around 90 on the motorway it is fairly dark as i start work at 630am some idot comes screaming up the inside of me doing well over 120 judgeing by how fast he came up and whent passed me, and then had to slow down to the speed that traffic was travelling at as the car infront of me didn't see him coming and drifted toward the middle. I had to jam on my brakes to miss running up the back of him, the car behind me damed near hits me. What a DICK!
his rear end missed my front end by a matter of an inch or so!.
He didn't even look back wave to say sorry mate, nothing as soon as he got the gap off he whent again splitting at well over 100.
If it was someone from this site then you know who you are and you are a very luck person! had i not had the reactions i did then you would have become the meat between me and another car!

[ManDownUnder]

Which motorway, what kind of bike, which direction?

[EJK]

I'm guessing NW Motorway?? Cause thats where all the dickheads play high speed lane splitting

[xwhatsit]

Splitting at 90kph isn't too frightful. It sounds scary and dangerous but, as you know, it's all in relative speeds. I've no issue doing 100kph down one of the motorcycle middle-lanes if the traffic is doing 80kph. Not that I do, often. Jim2 often spouts the argument that you're much safer in a motorcycle lane than part of regular traffic, as nose-to-tails are regular threats, and in either situation you still have to worry about people changing lanes into you. I think I'm starting to agree; although I mostly stick in a car lane above 50-60kph, unless I start feeling threatened.

I'm only talking about really heavy traffic here.

Of course the guy was a twat for jumping into your space. I'm not disputing that. Just pointing out that high-speed splitting on its own is not necessarily an evil thing.

[Finn]

O.K. WTF
Some is alive by the grace of my quick reactions
This moring on my way to work (in my cage ) traveling around 90 on the motorway it is fairly dark as i start work at 630am some idot comes screaming up the inside of me doing well over 120 judgeing by how fast he came up and whent passed me, and then had to slow down to the speed that traffic was travelling at as the car infront of me didn't see him coming and drifted toward the middle. I had to jam on my brakes to miss running up the back of him, the car behind me damed near hits me.

Well what the fuck were you doing in the right lane? People like you should have their licenses suspended and fined $1000. The more lanes you give kiwi's, the more they just spread out and fuck around.

Keep left, pay attention or take the fucken bus.

[Edbear]

...Of course the guy was a twat for jumping into your space. I'm not disputing that. Just pointing out that high-speed splitting on its own is not necessarily an evil thing.

Yeah he was an idiot, but I take issue, (nicely of course...!), with your comment about high-speed splitting. It is dangerous for the fact that car drivers are always changing lanes in heavy traffic to try to get an advantage and they don't always indicate, or if they do, it is often a single flick and a sudden move!

I won't split if the traffic is moving at 60km/h+ and when I do split it is fairly cautiously. When I'm in a car, I am constantly checking my mirrors for bikes, but even so I have often been startled at the speed they come up behind me!

[ManDownUnder]

Keep left, pay attention or take the fucken bus.

There's a fucken bus?

OOoooo - quite right there is!

[Ixion]

Well what the fuck were you doing in the right lane? ....

More to the point, what the fuck were you doing in a cage?

[xwhatsit]

Yeah he was an idiot, but I take issue, (nicely of course...!), with your comment about high-speed splitting. It is dangerous for the fact that car drivers are always changing lanes in heavy traffic to try to get an advantage and they don't always indicate, or if they do, it is often a single flick and a sudden move!

I won't split if the traffic is moving at 60km/h+ and when I do split it is fairly cautiously. When I'm in a car, I am constantly checking my mirrors for bikes, but even so I have often been startled at the speed they come up behind me!

Well let's deconstruct that. If I'm doing 80kph, and the cars around me are doing 60kph, what's the difference between when I'm doing 60kph and the cars are doing 40kph? The only difference, really, is that the ground is travelling underneath us a bit quicker (so if it turns to custard, I'll be eating tarmac at 80kph instead of 60kph). Cars, in my experience, tend to change lanes with more warning at higher speeds. They indicate for longer and seem to check their mirrors more thoroughly. That's just my experience, though.

Of course, at higher speeds, the RS isn't quite so sharp to accelerate or change direction. However when we're talking of the difference between 60kph and 80kph then it's still within acceptable levels. And around us, the cars aren't able to stop so quickly or change direction so quickly. Which heightens the danger for us when we're in a car lane (nose-to-tails etc.), but helps us when we're splitting.

When I first heard Jim2 talking about this kind of stuff, I was sceptical. It seemingly goes against common-sense. But when you look at it closer, you realise the truth.

[megageoff76]

But when you look at it closer, you realise the truth.

Sounds like youve been watching the Matrix a little too much..

[Morcs]

Oi! im one of the cnuts who canes it down the NW (sometimes)

I give myself just 25 minutes to get from west harbour to onehunga every morning...

[Forest]

The danger isn't so much the speed of the lane splitter, but rather the difference in speed between the splitter and the slower traffic.

[Edbear]

The danger isn't so much the speed of the lane splitter, but rather the difference in speed between the splitter and the slower traffic.

...when they collide...

However, it is also true that "The Faster You Go, The Bigger The Mess".

The difference between hitting a car/truck at 60km/h and 80km/h is significant and although I have weaved across lanes when average traffic speeds are 90km/h, (duly indicating and checking before changing lanes, of course...), it's not really "splitting" as such.

[fizbin]

Which motorway, what kind of bike, which direction?

North western around St Lukes

I'm guessing NW Motorway?? Cause thats where all the dickheads play high speed lane splitting

yeah i am a nana when i lane split i guess i dont want to orphan my kids

Splitting at 90kph isn't too frightful. It sounds scary and dangerous but, as you know, it's all in relative speeds. I've no issue doing 100kph down one of the motorcycle middle-lanes if the traffic is doing 80kph. Not that I do, often. Jim2 often spouts the argument that you're much safer in a motorcycle lane than part of regular traffic, as nose-to-tails are regular threats, and in either situation you still have to worry about people changing lanes into you. I think I'm starting to agree; although I mostly stick in a car lane above 50-60kph, unless I start feeling threatened.

I'm only talking about really heavy traffic here.

Of course the guy was a twat for jumping into your space. I'm not disputing that. Just pointing out that high-speed splitting on its own is not necessarily an evil thing.

yeah i only do like 30-35 through traffic but i guess that is because i am new to biking. but my point is at that speed all it would take is for a car to drift in a lane a small amount and that would end the end of you

Well what the fuck were you doing in the right lane? People like you should have their licenses suspended and fined $1000. The more lanes you give kiwi's, the more they just spread out and fuck around.

Keep left, pay attention or take the fucken bus.

ummmm.... yeah..... don't quite know what to say there... anyone else?

I won't split if the traffic is moving at 60km/h+ and when I do split it is fairly cautiously. When I'm in a car, I am constantly checking my mirrors for bikes, but even so I have often been startled at the speed they come up behind me!

yeah since i have started to bike my whole perception for bike have changed i am more aware of them, give way more that sort of thing

More to the point, what the fuck were you doing in a cage?

see my previous post bike is dead hit by cage

Oi! im one of the cnuts who canes it down the NW (sometimes)

I give myself just 25 minutes to get from west harbour to onehunga every morning...

made you peace with god???

...when they collide...

However, it is also true that "The Faster You Go, The Bigger The Mess".

The difference between hitting a car/truck at 60km/h and 80km/h is significant and although I have weaved across lanes when average traffic speeds are 90km/h, (duly indicating and checking before changing lanes, of course...), it's not really "splitting" as such.

i have just recently been knocked off my bike in the exact same spot as a friend of mine. difference is he was doing 80kph and i was doing 30
he got a broken arm and 6 months of physio to fix his back and he still walks with a limp. i came off with almost no bruising and a sore back! there is a big difference in speed when you are travelling in traffic

[sAsLEX]

If he was splitting he would of been in lane 2A....... and you should of been in 2 or 3 etc you probably over reacted braked too suddenly and target fixated on him rather than looking at the space next to him ........