What makes a good rider?

[James Deuce]

Their trousers also.

[yod]

I wait with bated breath.

nah mate...too easy to wind up jafas

(it's baited by the way....see...there's already steam coming outta your ears!)

[Hitcher]

Indeed. Flagrant displays of butt crack cheapens their demeanor.

[Hitcher]

(it's baited by the way....see...there's already steam coming outta your ears!)

Oh no it's not. Bated is right: with breath drawn in or held because of anticipation or suspense: I watched with bated breath as Ruben Xaus approached the finish line.

[yod]

Oh no it's not. Bated is right: with breath drawn in or held because of anticipation or suspense: I watched with bated breath as Ruben Xaus approached the finish line.

i stand corrected

...but you coulda let me watch the steam rising for a little longer couldnt ya??

[The Stranger:Me]

nah mate...too easy to wind up jafas

(it's baited by the way....see...there's already steam coming outta your ears!)

Ha ha, the sig is to wind up dorks from the hinterlands, who bit first?
No it is bated, as in waiting with abated breath.

However you were baited and hooked, so you can have that one.

[James Deuce]

One wouldn't be waiting long with "abated" breath.

[Drew]

Back on topic now, a good rider, cannot be defined I dont think.

It seems to me, that even the best riders are still learning, new ideas and styles are constantly being thought up. So nomatter who is in front of you, weather they may be better or worse, the potential is there to learn something from them.

There are plenty of fast riders, who crash very seldom, and plenty of slow riders who crash a lot, but as Cowpoos says every thirty seconds, "It's easy to teach a fast rider not to crash, but hard to teach a slow rider to be fast."

"Good" must first be defined, before you can achieve the goal.

And, trousers, that is the most important thing, bling for Jim2 for pointing it out.

[yod]

Ha ha, the sig is to wind up dorks from the hinterlands, who bit first?
No it is bated, as in waiting with abated breath.

However you were baited and hooked, so you can have that one.

fair enuff mate...ya got me

unfortunately the sig is now totally incorrect, but i'll let ya have that one

[KATWYN]

Is there anything that you've picked up from riding in a group with others eg. a rider in front of you
leans off their seat, and then you've tried it and it works for you.

What are things which make a rider unsafe to be around?

IMHO -Watching their lines - good rider

IMHO - Riding to close behind (anything), and not riding staggered, putting others at risk - bad rider

[lowededwookie]

I have all the gear to make music... doesn't make me a good musican even though I enjoy doing it...

Though I agree is not playing silly buggers on the road, and agree there is no need to push yourself to enjoy a ride either.

Having the gear means you're responsible. A rider that has only shorts and a tshirt is a dick that deserves to get busted up. A rider that forgoes wearing proper gear on account of it being too hot, too bulky, or too time consuming to put on is NOT a good rider as they are not responsible.

This ties in with my silly buggers thought as well. Both indicate responsibility. Responsible riders are good riders. Unresponsible riders are a menace and noone thinks they're cool.


Hence my comments stand.

[The Stranger:Me]

and not riding staggered, ...- bad rider

I'm a bad rider then.
What do you do when this conflicts with "ride your own ride"?

By way of example we are on the noob ride on ANZAC day and riders are just rocking up to a corner from the left or right, where ever they happened to be in their stagger pattern.
If there is a pot hole, rough surface, seal repairs, tar bleed or a corner I am out of formation riding my own ride thanks.

[James Deuce]

Actually they don't stand at all Mr wookie, and I don't like the implication that motorcyclists who don't conform to your standards "deserve" injury or death.

"Unresponsible" isn't a word.

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

Having the gear means you're responsible.

Being responsible doesn't make you a good rider though does it... heck if you are a good rider you shouldn't need to have the gear cause you ain't gonna bin it are you... the responsible bit wearing the gear is even though you are a great rider, you don't trust the other buggers on the road.

[Pwalo]

Valentino Rossi's quite good apparently.