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    10 easy. 12 silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    In short the imperials system is better because it is based on universal and always availab le references. Whereas to measure anything in metrofarts you either have to have equipment or run around the world and do a massive arithmetical sum.
    *cough* old *cough*

    Everything based on 10 makes more sense to an untainted mind (10 fingers, 11 toes etc), 12's are only good for those who calculate in circles or those who have had 12's jammed down their through in the short stint at the cool playhouse of learning.

    Or of course those really weird people who do maths over multi-bases unary/binary/trinary/quactal/pental/hexal/heptal/octal/noctal/decimal/hexadecimal/tridecibinary and then there's always apples and banana's.

    A pint is different to a pint (because american beer is weaker), a ton is different to a tonne, the imperial measurement system isn't standardized at all (apart from its origins of the origonal yard stick which was the distance from some king's nose to the tip of his knob).

    Why not go the discovery channel way and say that the hill was as tall as 14.3 jumbo jets stacked end to end on their wingtips?
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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowDog View Post
    ... No wonder the rest of Europe thinks the Poms are nuts.
    NO. Do you really believe we think that?


    Quote Originally Posted by Magua View Post
    Litres per 100km is a daft measurement. I don't know why we didn't go from Miles per gallon to Kilometers per litre.
    MpG or Km/l measure efficiency, that's an engineering point of view.

    Litres per 100Km measure cost, that's a user point of view.

    How much gas will you use on that trip? Divide distance by 100 (easy) and multiply by l/Km.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trouser View Post
    Long or short. I wouldn't mind selling a short ton and calling it a tonne. 10% extra money for me please.

    There are 2205 lb in a tonne and 2240 lb in a ton - that isn't 10%.
    Forget the stupid US measurements, they bastardise every measure they get their hands on and thus can't be relied upon.
    Just look at dates (for but one example).
    They display time from the longest unit to the shortest, yet dates is all jumbled. Then to avoid confusion invent a "new system" of year/month/day. Why not just use the same system as the rest of the world to avoid confusion? Why create confusion to avoid confusion? Fucked if I know, they're fucken stupid!
    Our imperial system was never American.
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    Not sure if it's imperial or metric but I've always felt breasts should be measured in BSH's

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    Usually,where an American measurement,spelling etc. differs from the current English equivalent,it is because the American one is the original English variation and in the interim the poms have changed their version- usually on a whim.

    e.g. aluminum was the original spelling by the English discoverer of the element.

    Exceptions are Franklin's attempt to rationalise spelling - e.g. color

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clockwork View Post
    Not sure if it's imperial or metric but I've always felt breasts should be measured in BSH's

    British Standard Handful

    I'll provide the standard hand.
    Strongly disagree - Standard Mouthfuls (SM) is the way to go - and what are the chances... I have the standard mouth!

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    Well you know what they say..... anything more than 1 BSH is a waste but I reckon my hand would be bigger than your mouth.


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    Standardise shmanderdise, no one is completely metric or imperial are they ?

    My kids have been metric all their lives, but when asked they are 6 foot 2 inches and fourteen stone or whatever.

    At the timber yard I get 3 metre lengths of of 2x4 (inches). The chap doing my fence is running it from 1.8 metres down to 4 foot.

    What happened to hundred weights.

    My wife travels in KGs as in, I was doing 95 kilograms an hour in a 100 Kilogram zone.

    Don't blame us we're poms, distance is measured in miles but if you sell veges in Pounds and ounces you get locked up. Whatever works for you I say
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Stranger View Post
    Forget the stupid US measurements, they bastardise every measure they get their hands on and thus can't be relied upon.
    Just look at dates (for but one example).
    The rest of the world is still wondering what actually happened in America, on the ninth of November 2001...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magua View Post
    Litres per 100km is a daft measurement. I don't know why we didn't go from Miles per gallon to Kilometers per litre.
    I disagree that Litres per 100 km is a daft measurement. Agreed it's a bit of a mouthful, but it's a measure of fuel consumption rather than its inverse (fuel economy), which makes more sense. If I asked you to weigh an orange and you come back with the number of these oranges that would make up 1 kilogram, I'd tell you to stop being daft.

    It's just a question of getting used to it, which many people don't want to do. The claim that mpg is a more intuitive unit than L per 100 km is similar to the claim that the pound is more intuitive than the kilogram: bollocks. It's a question of what people are used to.

    If you prefer to deal with fuel economy, then km/L is fine. Just remember the scales cross at 10 (10 L/100 km = 10 km/L) and one doubles as the other halves. Having used both measurements for a while, i find that L/100 km fits my mind better as time passes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    My pace is exactly one imperial yard. So I can always measure distance. A foot is , duh, a foot long. Easy to step out X number of feet. My hand is precisely , duh again, one hand wide - four inches. You go measure a horse in metrodonglidangles without any equipment.
    So you think nobody's noticed your clever subverting of the argument you purport to be making?

    A mile is 1/20 the distance a legion can walk in a day, or is that a league? A chain is the length of a cricket pitch. A cubit is the length from someone's elbow to his finger. A furlong is some other thing. So now we have eight bloody units to measure distance, and we've barely started. An inch is 1/12 the length of my penis. A parsec is ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forest View Post
    The metric systems is just as arbitrary as the imperial system.
    Well, if you only consider it the "metric" system then yes I suppose you are right. On the other hand - if you consider the whole system of SI units it does make a lot of sense. It gets rid of all the nasty constants in the equations.

    Funnily enough - if Henry I had only had an arm that was ~8.5 cm longer the metric system would have been invented 600 years earlier How is that for arbitrary?

    Quote Originally Posted by pzkpfw View Post
    The basis of metric may be essentially arbitrary (though they tried to use meaningfull things [divide Earth to define metres...]) but after that it's at least consistent.

    Inches per foot? Feet per yard? Yards per mile?

    Similar for weight etc.

    Hard for physics too - units of weight are different to units for mass (see "slug").
    The meter is, IIRC, founded upon being 1/10.000 of the distance from equator to the north pole.

    The imperial system is extremely clever when you have a reasonable tolerance for error and no calculators. All the units can typically be divided by 2, 3, 4 - some even by 7 and 11. This makes it possible to quite easily approximate Pi (22/7) using the different measures.

    In this day and age engineering demands precision on such a scale that you will need a calculator anyway - and then the advantage of the imperial system becomes a bother instead. Length - one measure - the meter and if it doesn't fit what you are looking at fit a prefix of your liking.
    And the same prefixes are valid for every other measure in the SI system. The only weird thing is that the SI unit for mass is kilograms not grams - but that's about it really.

    What's so nice about the SI system is how the units relate, consider the equations: 1) force equals mass times acceleration, 2) work (energy) equals force times distance:

    F = m*a <=> [N] = [kg]*[m/s^2]
    E = F*dx <=> [J] = [N]*[m] = [kg*(m/s)^2]

    No conversion factors needed. I wouldn't even dare to try and write down the equivalents for imperial units


    As for being better able to relate to the units - that's bullshit. Nothing but tradition and conditioning. I have a better grasp of what 1.83 meter is than what 6 foot is, simply because I grew up in a place where only the SI system was used. If you want to be able to do precise measurements using your own body you'd need to measure yourself in advance - whether you use metric or imperial.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikkel View Post



    As for being better able to relate to the units - that's bullshit. Nothing but tradition and conditioning. I have a better grasp of what 1.83 meter is than what 6 foot is, simply because I grew up in a place where only the SI system was used...
    But we can't be expected to accommodate people from FornParts. They have all sorts of weird notions. Where would it all end. Half of them don't even drink tea. British is Best, we all know that, so it would be much better for them to change their silly systems to sensible Imperial ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clockwork View Post

    (unless you're an Aussie of course)
    That's pretty good. Retort when I think of one.

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