Three cops shot - 1 dead (Napier, 7 May)

**short-circuit** · 8th May 2009, 15:25

Originally Posted by Tank

Statement from the police mentioned this:

- Asked why gas had not been used to try to flush the gunman from the house, Mr Hoyle replied: "It would be wrong to assume it hasn't been used."

A lot of gas has been excreted on this thread

**ManDownUnder** · 8th May 2009, 15:36

Originally Posted by Maki

It does not take a rocket scientist or "the mental health body" to figure out "what set him off".

So what was it then?

**mashman** · 8th May 2009, 15:44

I still have a hard time why they haven't retrieved either the officer or the dog? Why not drive a tank in to the street sheltering another vehicle to retrieve the bodies... it's senseless to leave them there... we're all shocked enough

**Maki** · 8th May 2009, 15:46

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

So what was it then?

If you spend years riding with no problems and then fall down on your bike one day, what is the first thing you ask yourself? In what way was today different from all the other days?

**ManDownUnder** · 8th May 2009, 15:50

Originally Posted by Maki

If you spend years riding with no problems and then fall down on your bike one day, what is the first thing you ask yourself? In what way was today different from all the other days?

Agreed - and... rather than retype the question...

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

So what was it then?

**Tank** · 8th May 2009, 15:54

Originally Posted by mashman

I still have a hard time why they haven't retrieved either the officer or the dog? Why not drive a tank in to the street sheltering another vehicle to retrieve the bodies... it's senseless to leave them there... we're all shocked enough

Could be the guy with the high powered rifle shooting at people.

Maybe, they don't think that the risk to life is worth collecting the body. I'm sure that they would have retrieved it if they could have done so.

**Maha** · 8th May 2009, 16:00

Originally Posted by Tank

Could be the guy with the high powered rifle shooting at people.

Maybe, they don't think that the risk to life is worth collecting the body. I'm sure that they would have retrieved it if they could have done so.

Flood light the house, he has to shit and piss sometime, theres the gap !!

Fuck if that was my old man laying on the street dead, i'd have something to say. What have we got here? 80 verse 1???
It seems someone at the top to pussy to make a call, right or wrong, sort it out.

**HenryDorsetCase** · 8th May 2009, 16:02

Molenaar must die.

He not only killed a pleecemin and wounded some more, he has apparently killed a police dog also.

And shot at the police robot.

Unacceptable.

they've got a LAV there, time to roll that sucker in with flamethrowers.

**Tank** · 8th May 2009, 16:03

Originally Posted by Maha

It seems someone at the top to pussy to make a call, right or wrong, sort it out.

And if you had to make the call and it turned out wrong and ANOTHER officer was killed?

Easy to make calls when we dont have to live with the consequences.

edit: - Im sure his friends and colleagues want his body retrieved more than any of us here do, it must be terrible seeing it there. Those guys must be seething with rage.

**Maha** · 8th May 2009, 16:03

Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase

Molenaar must die.

He not only killed a pleecemin and wounded some more, he has apparently killed a police dog also.

And shot at the police robot.

Unacceptable.

they've got a LAV there, time to roll that sucker in with flamethrowers.

Exactly, no more fucking around, whos in charge here? him or them?

**Maha** · 8th May 2009, 16:08

Originally Posted by Tank

And if you had to make the call and it turned out wrong and ANOTHER officer was killed?

Easy to make calls when we dont have to live with the consequences.

Me? not my place to make the call, I aint a cop.
I can however, make an educated suggestion....
Who do you think would win if the All Blacks went up against a lone Frenchman?

They have the fire power and weapons to end this but, oh no, thats not the we do things in NZ.

**Headbanger** · 8th May 2009, 16:14

Originally Posted by Maha

Who do you think would win if the All Blacks went up against a lone Frenchman?

Would that lone Frenchman happen to be the ref?

**short-circuit** · 8th May 2009, 16:16

Originally Posted by Maha

Exactly, no more fucking around, whos in charge here? him or them?

"Action man - the greatest hero of them all"

**Tank** · 8th May 2009, 16:18

Originally Posted by Maha

Me? not my place to make the call, I aint a cop.
I can however, make an educated suggestion....
Who do you think would win if the All Blacks went up against a lone Frenchman?
.

I would think that the lone Frenchman would have a chance at tackling one of our players.

Its easy to criticise - when we dont have all the facts, and as I said before having to live with the consequences.

You say "It seems someone at the top to pussy to make a call, right or wrong, sort it out."

It may be that they have made a call - and that may be let it run on for a while and go in later when he hasn't slept for 3 days, who knows.

Just because its not what you would do (even tho you arnt a cop and its not your decision to make to consequence to own) - that dosnt make it wrong, or the guy in charge a pussy.

The cops have laws that they have to follow as well - even if they dont want to.

There is a lot more to this than KB justice.