Stoner vs Rossi

**denill** · 8th May 2009, 08:41

Originally Posted by madkeenandy

when every one else is two seconds off the pace except for julian simon who crashed

So like I said before - his team gave him an bloody GOOD bike. 125s just don't clear off like that.......................

**James Deuce** · 8th May 2009, 08:55

To add insult to injury, Mr Smith was saying in his blog that he nearly crashed toward the end of the race and the bike developed a misfire in 5th from that point on, so he was riding around an issue or two.

17 seconds is mammoth in any class of motorsport, but a margin like that in 125GP is legendary!

**Brian d marge** · 8th May 2009, 16:21

Originally Posted by denill

Melandri? Very much a conundrum and what you say may have a point.

On the Ducati he was SHIT.

Now, on a botched up Kawasaki (Which was a piece of shit, no matter who rode it, in spite of the factory backing it had up till this year.) he gets some stunning results?????

It's the sort of stuff that makes MotoGP soooooo interesting.

The bbc comentarty was good, One thing when you dont use a frame ( ducati ) the stresses go through the crankshaft ( unless they move the load path ?) and because the stresses go through the crankcase , the case needs to be stronger ,,,interesting

also on a more seriuos note ................... TITIES

Stephen

**Crasherfromwayback** · 9th May 2009, 17:07

Originally Posted by Brian d'marge

The bbc comentarty was good, One thing when you dont use a frame ( ducati ) the stresses go through the crankshaft ( unless they move the load path ?) and because the stresses go through the crankcase , the case needs to be stronger ,,,interesting

also on a more seriuos note ................... TITIES

Stephen

Interesting post...but the 'titties'? Pancakes more like!

**Brian d marge** · 10th May 2009, 23:29

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

Interesting post...but the 'titties'? Pancakes more like!

well they are concidered HUUUUGWE here

Stephen

**pritch** · 11th May 2009, 10:29

Originally Posted by Oscar

I'd like to see him on a Yamaha or Honda.

He was on a Honda RC211V in 2006, busily depleting the worlds supplies of carbon fibre.

What a difference a year makes.

I liked his comment that previously when he told the mechanics what was happening and what he wanted they just looked at him with disbelief then largely ignored him.

When he went to Ducati they told him they would back him and when he told the mechanics what he wanted they did it without question

**vifferman** · 11th May 2009, 11:03

Originally Posted by denill

Melandri? Very much a conundrum and what you say may have a point.

On the Ducati he was SHIT.

Now, on a botched up Kawasaki (Which was a piece of shit, no matter who rode it, in spite of the factory backing it had up till this year.) he gets some stunning results?????

Originally Posted by codgyoleracer

I wonder if the standardised rubber has moved things a bit closer for the Green meanies ?

I think the tyres may have something to do with it, but you must recall that Melandri was very good, before he went to Ducati. It seems that virtually no-one (not Capirossi, Melandri, or Haystack) apart from Stoner can tame the beast.
I often thought it would have been VERY interesting if instead of Rossi going to to Yamaha, he'd gone to Ducati (back then Ducato wasn't doing so well). The Italian fans would've been in absolute heaven.

Originally Posted by Brian d'marge

The bbc comentarty was good, One thing when you dont use a frame ( ducati ) the stresses go through the crankshaft ( unless they move the load path ?) and because the stresses go through the crankcase , the case needs to be stronger

Hmmmm....
That IS interesting.
Apparently, on the VTR1000 (which uses the engine as a stressed part of the frame), the cases disintegrate at a mere 125hp or thereabouts.
The VFR cases must be stronger, because there's a guy in Mrka who's developed a Rotrex-based kit for them, and it churns out around 160hp, with unmodified engine internals and cases. He's had more than 2 years of running the thing with no problems at all.

**Scouse** · 17th May 2009, 20:29

Hmm time to dredge this up again as a little Scouse waits for Valentino to Kick arse again in the morning. I will be glued to the TV from 6am also hopeing that Bradly Smith kicks arse in the 125's.

**k14** · 17th May 2009, 20:36

I don't know if rossi has the pace, I'd say one of either pedrosa or lorenzo will win with stoner second.

**Cr1MiNaL** · 17th May 2009, 20:45

lets make this a little bit interesting... I will bet $20 to anyone who says Rossi will not win round 4. Keep the stakes small and enjoyable for everyones pleasure.

**Crasherfromwayback** · 17th May 2009, 22:25

Originally Posted by YamahaR64Life

lets make this a little bit interesting... I will bet $20 to anyone who says Rossi will not win round 4. Keep the stakes small and enjoyable for everyones pleasure.

Not I! I'm a gambler..but I think Rossi will win this round and of course the next. Then I think Stoner will start doing the bizz.