Remove your helmet

[Ragingrob]

How many new ones have you come up with knobjob?

I've made a few arguments against yours, but your rebuttal seems to amount to calling people knobjobs.

Here ya go, you've said that if you walk into a servo then it's like not taking your shoes off going into someone's house...

Picture this, I'm a business consultant and the CEO of Vodafone has arranged an appointment at my home for some advice. I think it would be a bad decision on my half to FORCE him to take his shoes off before entering. This is the only way you could compare a service station with a home. Do you disagree with this?

Do you believe that people should take off their hat before walking into McDonalds?

Customers are the stars.

Now please prove your argument against mine... Knobjob.

EDIT:

P.S. Attacking the source of the argument and not the argument itself is a good way to lose credibility and respect pretty quickly

[munterk6]

[PirateJafa]

How many new ones have you come up with knobjob?

Considering you haven't forwarded any decent arguments of your own, RagingRob is walking all over you mate.

Do you remove your shoes before you walk into a supermarket? There's a difference between a house and a business, though that might be beyond you.

Hell, come to think of it I usually don't even bother taking my helmet off when I walk into the local supermarket.

[aroberts]

I wear my flip-top into Shell Greville Road and they don't mind. I'm surprised Northcross have the new rule. I won't go there anymore then.

[Squiggles]

Poll needs the option of sometimes, i dont usually bother at the locals. But at the busy places like the autobahn or Shell westgate will

[Tone165]

Is Sam the attendant? Were they dudd 'e's or something?

This is not helpful!

I never remove my helmet when refuelling. If they were to ask me to BEFORE I get fuel...I would go elswhere, if they don't and then do not wish to accept my offer of payment...I'd just leave without paying! (It has never happened!)

Once they allow you to take fuel they have entered into a trade, if they want to impose conditions after that too bad.

My religion requires that I wear a helmet while refuelling or paying..I can remove my helmet after the transaction is complete if I want to.

It is illegal for any business to ask me to remove my helmet once I have explained that...religious discrimination is not tolerated in Aussie (unless your a christian..then you can suffer in ya jocks!)

I use a flip face helmet, I usually pay with a fuelcard, I'm happy top produce ID if requested...but I do not accept being assumed a crim because I ride a motorbike.

[sunhuntin]

I do two things:
1. I always remove my helmet before pumping gas.
2. I avoid service stations with the forecourt in that kind of state.

Seriously - diesel and oil spilt on the forecourt is no laughing matter, go somewhere else next time.

yep, ive nearly fallen over when i put my foot down in diesel. some how managed to move forwards at about the same time the foot shot out, lol. now i avoid diesel pumps at all times. i have also warned customers on bikes about any minor spill [ie, a few drops that have merged together to form a small puddle that could be troublesome] just in case.

the one thing i hate about my local shell is the forecourt... every pump is cambered to assist with draining spills. i have to park with the pumps on my left, as otherwise the damn bike nearly falls over due to the angle, lol.

and someone mentioned about asking people to remove shoes at a servo. i never, ever did, but many would remove them voluntarily if they were muddy etc. my main concerns were cunts who thought smoking was an ideal thing to do while fuelling. i threatened several times to dump the window washing water over their heads.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Considering you haven't forwarded any decent arguments of your own, RagingRob is walking all over you mate.

Do you remove your shoes before you walk into a supermarket? There's a difference between a house and a business, though that might be beyond you.

Hell, come to think of it I usually don't even bother taking my helmet off when I walk into the local supermarket.

I think I have. Doesn't worry me you don't. But seeing as you've mentioned it...if the rules of the local supermarket said I must remove my shoes I would if I wanted to go in there. Simple really. Doesn't surprise me you'd go into the supermarket with your lid on. But again...to me...that's the hight of rudeness.

At a gas station...when I put gas in a bike...I remove my helmet as I'm walking to the door as I know they don't like you wearing your lid inside. It's off before I enter the place...as I'm able to remove it in about 5 seconds flat. I then pay. I'm polite and nice to whoever is behind the counter. I return to the bike and by the time I throw a leg over it...the helmet is back on. None too taxing. So you see...I think you think you're too cool...too tough...or simply too lazy and or rude to bother. We both have our opinions...and that's great.

[Ragingrob]

I think I have. Doesn't worry me you don't. But seeing as you've mentioned it...if the rules of the local supermarket said I must remove my shoes I would if I wanted to go in there. Simple really. Doesn't surprise me you'd go into the supermarket with your lid on. But again...to me...that's the hight of rudeness.

At a gas station...when I put gas in a bike...I remove my helmet as I'm walking to the door as I know they don't like you wearing your lid inside. It's off before I enter the place...as I'm able to remove it in about 5 seconds flat. I then pay. I'm polite and nice to whoever is behind the counter. I return to the bike and by the time I throw a leg over it...the helmet is back on. None too taxing. So you see...I think you think you're too cool...too tough...or simply too lazy and or rude to bother. We both have our opinions...and that's great.

Now... This is similar to me. Most of the time, I actually remove my helmet before even touching the pump, as surely if they're worried about thefts then that would actually be a more ideal "rule".

I too am polite and chatty with whoever is at the counter, if they act in the same manner towards me.

What I very much dislike is the thought of being FORCED to remove our helmets.

Many arguments in this thread are based on oh it's rude not to take it off etc etc in terms of manners and whatnot. That's not the fucken point! Each to their own, you can be rude if you want, that's all down to individual personality! Why is this being argued when the point is about being forced to remove our helmets? We aren't being forced to remove them because it shows good manners surely, why are we being forced at all?!

On another point, I've been forced to remove my helmet sometimes when I've left it on cause I'm in a rush on my commute, but I've never ever seen any signs displaying the need for no helmet? Do any in Auckland have this?

The argument regarding burkhas is also something nobody has contested. They often conceal even more than a helmet does so why are they allowed? It's much cheaper for a robber to find a cloth to use as a burkha than to find a helmet, much easier to run in too.

[PirateJafa]

So you see...I think you think you're too cool...too tough...or simply too lazy and or rude to bother. We both have our opinions...and that's great.

Interesting.

I know the attendants at my local BP by name - they're nice guys, and often chat with me about whichever of my bikes I'm riding at the time, when they were last at a trackday with their car, the weather, all sorts.

Wearing a helmet =/= You are a rube "knobjob" (as you so eloquently put it)

Considering that filling up your bikes take all of five minutes from rocking into the station right up to the wheelie out, I'm not going to add an extra two minutes by needlessly taking off my helmet and glasses, then having to put my earplugs/iPod back on, putting the helmet on, squeezing my glasses in, and then realizing one of the earphones have been knocked out and having to rinse and repeat.

Fukkit. They don't care, so why should I?

There's more important things in life for you to be getting your knickers in a twist about, mate.

[Guzza]

Gotta admit, I'm happy that my local servo staff dont seem to be bothered by me wearing my lid inside to pay. Granted, the guys there know me, I only live down the road but if a servo enforced that rule on me, I wouldnt go back.

[Crasherfromwayback]

There's more important things in life for you to be getting your knickers in a twist about, mate.

Totally agree with you there!

[PirateJafa]

Totally agree with you there!

Good stuff, come back when you've fixed world hunger and brought peace to the Middle East (and "nuke 'em from orbit" doesn't count).

[Crasherfromwayback]

Good stuff, come back when you've fixed world hunger and brought peace to the Middle East (and "nuke 'em from orbit" doesn't count).

Working on it as we speak.

[discotex]

I wonder if it has it occurred to any of these gas station workers that should they be facing a real robber you're unlikely to comply with their request anyway.