Improving motorcycling in Auckland City - Suggestions wanted

**xwhatsit** · 27th May 2009, 13:56

Originally Posted by discotex

A bylaw that allows motorcycles to park on footpaths would be good.

Now that -- if they have the power to do that -- would be an excellent use of an opportunity. Plenty of countries around the world allow this -- even cities like Melbourne, where they have a public liability situation just about as bad as the US (talking about excuse we got given once before, bikes can't park on footpath as little ones could burn themselves on the hot exhaust).

**Ragingrob** · 27th May 2009, 14:03

Originally Posted by xwhatsit

Now that -- if they have the power to do that -- would be an excellent use of an opportunity. Plenty of countries around the world allow this -- even cities like Melbourne, where they have a public liability situation just about as bad as the US (talking about excuse we got given once before, bikes can't park on footpath as little ones could burn themselves on the hot exhaust).

Though the footpaths in Melbourne are often twice as wide as the ones here, it's much easier to ensure bikes are not in the way. But yeah it would be cool to allow it, and penalize the bikes that are definitely in a stupid position.

**R6_kid:Me** · 27th May 2009, 14:14

Could be a good time to raise the point about how UNSAFE most safety barrier types are w.r.t to bikes and scooters.

I'm also +1 for Marmoot's suggestions.

**Squiggles** · 27th May 2009, 16:14

Originally Posted by Marmoot

Better training and personality requirements for bus drivers.
Better redlight sequencing to reduce drivers frustration which often leads to redlight jumping.
Better road lining that are (1) non slippery in wet, and (2) visible.
Better road construction traffic management (see Symonds Street for example).
Better road construction resurfacing (see Quay Street left lane for example).

Chur

Originally Posted by Ragingrob

Tell roadworks not to put a smooth sheet of metal measuring like 2x2 in the middle of a corner

Kind of hard to ride around corners with ZERO traction on our only two wheels..

I raised this last meeting, here was the response

Originally Posted by Their response

The Code of Practice for Working in the Road, Part 6.4.2.11 requires the following. Whilst we endeavour to audit as many sites as possible, resources do not allow us to do so. Can I suggest that any sites that are of concern are reported via the Call Centre phone 379 2020 request for service process and given a "Critical" priority. We will audit within 4 working hours.

6.4.2.1 Use of Temporary Steel Plates during Construction

1. Where temporary steel plates exist in the carriageway an ‘UNEVEN SURFACE’ supplementary plate and a separate ‘SLIPPERY SURFACE’ (TW-4) warning sign/s must be displayed to warn traffic. Permanent resurfacing is required within 7 days of a temporary seal being placed, unless as otherwise agreed, by the RCA.
2. Steel plates may be used in carriageways provided they are skid resistant, secured, and cushioned with rubber matting to prevent rocking, moving or noise. They must be of sufficient strength and quality to support imposed traffic loading.
3. Should steel plates be used "uneven surface" road works signs and "slippery surface"(TW-17) warning sign/s must be displayed to warn traffic of the potential hazards.
4. When steel plates are used, a ramp with hotmix must be formed and filleted to ensure safe pedestrian and vehicular access. The ramps must be adequately secured to the surface and maintained for the duration of the work.
5. Temporary road markings and all other necessary traffic measures must be in place to ensure that hazards are eliminated and parking restrictions are maintained.

Originally Posted by Swoop

Increased parking areas dedicated to bikes.

Will start a thread later tonight asking where the parking areas should be located

Originally Posted by Swoop

Anything that has a metal surface, on the road, must have a non-skid coating applied to it.

Will mention

Originally Posted by discotex

A bylaw that allows motorcycles to park on footpaths would be good.

Dont think it'll happen but ill keep trying

**Ragingrob** · 27th May 2009, 16:41

Yeah no signs whatsoever about any slippery surfaces when I hit that sheet of metal in Ponsonby about 50m from the police station lol.

**Squiggles** · 27th May 2009, 20:42

A bump for the evening kb'rs

**Thani-B** · 27th May 2009, 21:18

Better detectors or whatever they are at lights so we dont have to keep on repositioning the bike to make the light turn green if we miss it the first time

**want-a-harley** · 27th May 2009, 21:48

Improved parking: - In the UK it is free to park in pay and display meter parking.
- Provide more dedicated motorcycle parking, you don't need much, for every street with parking have on car park sized space dedicated to motorcycle parking
- Can park on pavement if not obstructing pedestrian traffic

Make filtering legal.

Legally use all bus lanes (such as on motorways)

In Tahiti if a car/van/etc hits a motorcycle they're in the wrong, always, makes people make sure theres no bike in blindspot etc

**Ixion** · 27th May 2009, 21:53

Storage lockers. I still reckon storage lockers, in the parking buildings at any rate.

**discotex** · 27th May 2009, 21:59

Brolly dollies at the traffic lights

**Squiggles** · 27th May 2009, 23:13

Originally Posted by Ixion

Storage lockers. I still reckon storage lockers, in the parking buildings at any rate.

I reckon thats a winner

**MarkH** · 28th May 2009, 00:00

Originally Posted by want-a-harley

Legally use all bus lanes (such as on motorways)

To be fair to the ACC - they do let bike use pretty much every bus lane that they have the say so over. The transit lanes on the motorway are NOT ACC responsibility and they have no say so on whether bikes can use them or not - that decision is up to Transit NZ (and they have said no).