Rider error - Now the highest ACC claims stat

[Katman]

I sense that a number of motorcyclist's worlds will come crashing down around them when they finally discover that 'fucking cagers' aren't the cause of the majority of their ills.

[scumdog]

I sense that a number of motorcyclist's worlds will come crashing down around them when they finally discover that 'fucking cagers' aren't the cause of the majority of their ills.

Damn right!

[Genestho]

The thing is... I'm pretty sure that in the majority of all road-user crashes, "driver error" would be the highest ranking stat. How can a crash even occur without some form of "driver error'?

Unless mother earth eats the car, or poor roading was a cause, then all crashes are due to rider/driver error are they not?

Don't ask me, but here's the categories
Motorcycle claims costs - by causes

Slipping, Skidding on Foot
Tripping or stumbling
Loss of conciousness/sleep 2nd Highest Claim WBOP Districts
Lurching/Jerks in vehicles etc
Misjudgment of support
Loss of Hold
Loss balance/Personal Control Highest Claim - Tauranga City
Swerving/evasive Action
Skid
Driving into Hole/Object (which when asked meant environmental and powerpoles/fence etc) 3rd Highest Claim WBOP DistrictsLoss of control of vehicle 3rd Highest Claim - Tauranga City First Highest Claim WBOP Districts
Collision /knocked over by object (F'n Cagers) 2nd Highest Claims - Tauranga City
Other or unclear cause
There's a few more, but they're more strains and oopsie daisys

[PrincessBandit]

Any particular reason Western BoP and Tauranga are colour coded in your post? Makes me think perhaps Auckland isn't as bad as everyone makes out

[Genestho]

Because Road Safety groups are not National, they are regional. They have to be, all data is co-alated regionally first and then nationally.
And I attended the regional meeting.
There are some Nationally related stats, but generally this was regional. Quite a big region.
As far as Aucks, or Nationally, it'd be interesting to look again at the stats!
It was said that Auckland has had a similar meeting, I'd be interested in knowing if anyone on kb has input from that meeting?

[dipshit]

And I'd say in general a campaign aimed at Motorcyclists to "look out for themselves" Perhaps publicity around ie; countersteering when taking corners too fast, target fixation (there's another name that was used) and other issues faced on the roads concerning rider error.

Because there is a perception that most accidents are caused by other vehicles, I have asked for definition of "Rider Error" stats, so motorcyclists can see for themselves, this particular stat broken down, and learn.

Good. Such a campaign would do a lot more good for motorcycle safety than the typical BRONZ bullshit that cars are responsible for the majority of motorcycle accidents.

[jrandom]

The area that suffers the most Motorcyclist Trauma (Injury) is Taupo

What a giant surprise that is to all of us who've met the local motorcyclists.

[Ragingrob]

What a giant surprise that is to all of us who've met the local motorcyclists.

I wonder if that includes all the bikers taken to hospital from the track

[jrandom]

Loss balance/Personal Control

Bahahahaha. ACC-ese for 'fucked up a wheelie'.

[Genestho]

I wonder if that includes all the bikers taken to hospital from the track

hehe!!! Nah, they said On Road

[Genestho]

What a giant surprise that is to all of us who've met the local motorcyclists.

Coughs! 5 4 3 2 1!

[MDR2]

I would only see a small percentage of the motorcycle claims that come through ACC but one of the more popular claims I come across is farmers falling off quads, farmers falling off bikes (even had a farmer crash into a cow)

I get annoyed that farmers using bikes on private property get thrown into the road using motorcylcist stats, another one that winds me up is people using car liscences to dart around on scooters. They haven't proven they have an ability use a bike like everyone else has to yet are allowed go out and represent us on the roads and add to the carnarge.

Recreational dirtbikers are another one representing.

Stats are a funny thing, and easily distorted.

[Katman]

Recreational dirtbikers are another one representing.

I suspect that is where Taupo's mention stems from.

[MDR2]

But I'll tell you this, which was said:

Motorcycling crash reduction is ACC's NZTA, and Govt Policy - Top Priority

It has begun....

http://www.scootersurvival.co.nz/

[Genestho]

I would only see a small percentage of the motorcycle claims that come through ACC but one of the more popular claims I come across is farmers falling off quads, farmers falling off bikes (even had a farmer crash into a cow)

I get annoyed that farmers using bikes on private property get thrown into the road using motorcylcist stats, another one that winds me up is people using car liscences to dart around on scooters. They haven't proven they have an ability use a bike like everyone else has to yet are allowed go out and represent us on the roads and add to the carnarge.

Recreational dirtbikers are another one representing.

Stats are a funny thing, and easily distorted.

That's one question I asked of the Police Rep, he reconed the quadbike/off road figure was minute. The words used were "mostly onroad crashes" were represented in these stats.
I'd like to know that percentage though. I think it's important.