Statistics say Chicks on bikes are bloody dangerous!

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

So if there was only one female rider and then she so happen to have an accident... then the female stats will say 100% of female riders have accidents...

They have the same chance and same percentage of accidents, its a matter of time when the have that accident, stats can be made to say anything, and the less female riders there the higher that stat will look.

[James Deuce]

I saw a chick crash once. She crashed on the same patch of diesel I did. Made me feel less of a loser to see someone else crash and her flying "W" was awesome to behold.

[Owl]

I saw a chick crash once. She crashed on the same patch of diesel I did. Made me feel less of a loser to see someone else crash and her flying "W" was awesome to behold.

The "Flying W" is always awesome when it's someone else!

[James Deuce]

I thought I was going to get some, but then I remembered that my wife was on the back so I ducked.

[rosie631]

The "Flying W" is always awesome when it's someone else!

Wot's the 'flying W'??

[idleidolidyll]

So if there was only one female rider and then she so happen to have an accident... then the female stats will say 100% of female riders have accidents...

Nope, any scientist or researcher worthy of the title would chuck the study out as ridiculous with a sample as small is 1, that's an inane argument

They have the same chance and same percentage of accidents, its a matter of time when the have that accident, stats can be made to say anything, and the less female riders there the higher that stat will look.

that's not what the stats say and frankly, if there are differences in spatial awareness between males and females, as has recently been suggested in science studies; then there ARE likely to be differences in the accident stats between genders.

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

that's not what the stats say and frankly, if there are differences in spatial awareness between males and females, as has recently been suggested in science studies; then there ARE likely to be differences in the accident stats between genders.

yes when guys have accidents... we do it properly and its not really accident most of the time it could have been avoided

[James Deuce]

Wot's the 'flying W'??

It's when you fly through the air, torso upright, legs spread and feet above shoulder height. Looks like this:

\|/

Your arse is the bottom of the "W".

[monkeymcbean]

It's when you fly through the air, torso upright, legs spread and feet above shoulder height. Looks like this:

\|/

Your arse is the bottom of the "W".

Ah better get some roomier leather pants then!

[idleidolidyll]

yes when guys have accidents... we do it properly and its not really accident most of the time it could have been avoided

yawn, more opinion with nothing to back it up

[Sollyboy]

maybe its how the statistic is gathered , if they are gathered at the point of medical treatments maybe the stats are higher for the gals because they get treatment when a blokes woulden, instead the blokes will drink a bottle of JDs and text all his mates to say he crashed but is to rugged to go to hospitals

[Nasty]

I owned grubs bike ... does that mean that it is recorded as his accident or one that happened on my bike?

[idleidolidyll]

maybe its how the statistic is gathered , if they are gathered at the point of medical treatments maybe the stats are higher for the gals because they get treatment when a blokes woulden, instead the blokes will drink a bottle of JDs and text all his mates to say he crashed but is to rugged to go to hospitals

that's the way to think about these things.
When looking at studies and the stats they produce you should always ask who did the study and what their motives might be. It may be that they were actually looking for figures to support an opinion and fiddled the test to make it so. It may be a study funded by someone with a vested interest in the outcome. It may be a study by a bored student looking for a passing mark in an exam.

[idleidolidyll]

I owned grubs bike ... does that mean that it is recorded as his accident or one that happened on my bike?

I doubt that the accident stats are linked directly with the owner of the bike.
All that seems to be happening is that the number of registered bikes is being compared to the number of accidents and seperated by gender.
That's probably how ACC do stats for car accidents too.

[Bass]

that's the way to think about these things.
When looking at studies and the stats they produce you should always ask who did the study and what their motives might be. It may be that they were actually looking for figures to support an opinion and fiddled the test to make it so. It may be a study funded by someone with a vested interest in the outcome. It may be a study by a bored student looking for a passing mark in an exam.

Sad but true.
Sad because properly applied statistics is the most powerful tool for investigating how the world behaves, that I have ever been handed.
The thing is that you have to play by the rules.
If it's not completely rigorous, it's a waste of time.
I have seen applied statistics used for investigating industrial processes where up to 22 variables were manipulated simultaneously, with completely meaningful results at the end.

BTW having read this whole thread, I can't help but wonder if your arms aren't brown right up to the shoulders.