A new class EXCITING class to get bikes out there AGAIN!

**malcy25** · 10th July 2009, 11:52

Originally Posted by Billy

Well try turning up at a post classic register meeting and tell them that and see how many races they let you do!The rules are the rules and a lot of the other competitors in post classics spend a huge amount of time and money making sure their bikes are legal to the letter of the law and they get pissed off when someone like you flouts the rules as if your Valentino Rossi and rightfully so.MC21s were NOt released to the general public anywhere in the world pre 1990.If however you can prove me wrong make sure you have the relevant information in writing from Honda motor company,Not your mate who lives in Japan cause that aint gonna cut it with the post classic register.As a matter of fact,Your bike isnt even legal for our Formula 3 rules according to the rule book.If all the meetings were run under your way of thinking we have superbikes runnig in the supersport class,125GP bikes running in streetstock and so on just because theyre making up the numbers and not winning

Billy. Bang on the mark. There is no grey! I agree with you whole hardedly. Your bike is legal for the class or it isn't. While harsh sounding, if the bike is not legal it shouldn't be there.

Imagine if a 600 supoersport racer arrived on slicks and with Ohlins TTX forks on their R6. They'd get told to take a hike on no short order. No difference I reckon should be applied to Posties.

Yep, it might mean on or 2 less bikes on the grid at that meeting. However, it will mean that you don't have 10 less bikes in a years time because people get pissed off racing burglar bikes and don't come back.

A big problem I see regularly with postie eligibility is "I think, so therefore it should be okay" and people have not done the homework. the comments about 'Blades above is a classic point. 1992, not "errr, late 80's, she'll be right!". This can have a big impact on the class and the biggest chance of disention between riders and the result further rule strecthing b everyone else.

**WarrenW** · 10th July 2009, 15:34

Originally Posted by Whitebait

As a F3 rider who does posties as well I don't race posties thinking I'm gonna clean the class up, I do it for the track time!

We also need to remember this is CLUB racing!

Seriously does anyone care if my bike is or is not meant to be in Pre89 if I'm making up numbers??

From a spectator point of view it must look a lot better having a full grid????

Ok yes it is a club event, HOWEVER the post classic association choose certian CLUB events (Taupo RND 1 VMCC as an example) to allocate points to the NEW ZEALAND Post Classic champs. So in reality we all have to be aware that these are not JUST club events!

If you bike aint legal, don't enter it, you will be protested some day.

There is only one name for people that 'bend' the rules, they are cheats.
No bobody would like to see a championship decided on a protest or won by an illegal bike.

**scracha** · 10th July 2009, 19:30

Originally Posted by Whitebait

As a F3 rider who does posties as well I don't race posties thinking I'm gonna clean the class up, I do it for the track time!

Then tell the organisers you're not taking any points, make sure you're not kicking any legal bikes off the back of the grid and stay well away from the front runners.

**Deano** · 10th July 2009, 19:38

Originally Posted by scracha

Then tell the organisers you're not taking any points, make sure you're not kicking any legal bikes off the back of the grid and stay well away from the front runners.

Is his bike not legal ? (Is a 91 any different or quicker than an 89 ?)

Why not just man up and beat him Stevey ?

(I could be talking through a hole in my arse)

**Drew** · 10th July 2009, 19:44

Originally Posted by scracha

Then tell the organisers you're not taking any points, make sure you're not kicking any legal bikes off the back of the grid and stay well away from the front runners.

I reckon you're taking this a tad far Stevie. If a guy wants to enter a class for fun, to see how they can do, let 'em take whatever points they earn.

If you are faster than someone else, do they deserve to be in the class more than you? (Assuming your bike is legal for said class.)

**malcy25** · 10th July 2009, 20:33

Originally Posted by Whitebait

As a F3 rider who does posties as well I don't race posties thinking I'm gonna clean the class up, I do it for the track time!

We also need to remember this is CLUB racing!

Seriously does anyone care if my bike is or is not meant to be in Pre89 if I'm making up numbers??

From a spectator point of view it must look a lot better having a full grid????

Where does it say the rules have to be adhered to EXCEPT for I'm making up numbers FFS. Your bike is legal or it is not. if not, don't enter whether it is Posties, 125's F3 , 600,'s F1, Sidecars. Take it home make it legal or ride in a class it is. Warren W has answered this perfectly.

So why does club racing mean you can ignore the rules?

Answering Deano's question....if a 91 is different in any way to an 89 bike in terms of the major components, no it is NOT legal. Something to think about I guess for a few riders....

**Deano** · 10th July 2009, 20:48

Originally Posted by malcy25

Answering Deano's question....if a 91 is different in any way to an 89 bike in terms of the major components, no it is NOT legal. Something to think about I guess for a few riders....

That is my understanding too.

**Kickaha** · 10th July 2009, 20:58

Originally Posted by Billy

.MC21s were NOt released to the general public anywhere in the world pre 1990.

They don't have to be released, only manufactured.

**puddy** · 10th July 2009, 20:58

Originally Posted by Benk

The idea of posties isnt just old shit bikes that cant run with the appropriate f1, f2 and f3 classes clumped together, its for era's of motorbikes, and changing the cuttoff dates is a waste, nobody would bother putting the time money and effort to building a bike from that era, as next year it will not be as competitive.

The cool thing about posties, is you can develop 1 bike, and not HAVE to upgrade every year to have something that is competitive in its class.If you want to do this there are plenty of other (pretty much all) classes. This idea would kill that, which would be a shame. Just wait another 10 years till there is a pre99.

What he said!

**quickbuck** · 10th July 2009, 22:22

Heck, this thread has transformed a little......

Neil had the week off, got bored, and come up with a really cool idea of how to get my bike out from the back of a shop 1000 metres from my house, and onto a track 18k from here........
Yes, I'm sure it was all about ME!

After reading through it all and all the views....
Well Fcuk it!
Will chuck some money at it, and clean up Super Sport on my CBR600 F2......
Watch out Sketchy.....

Okay, I'll keep dreaming, and ride the wheels of my NS1 tomorrow, and report back when I have news that I beat Neil on his Yamaha Autolube 50.....

**Drew** · 10th July 2009, 22:34

Originally Posted by quickbuck

After reading through it all and all the views....
Well Fcuk it!
Will chuck some money at it, and clean up Super Sport on my CBR600 F2......
Watch out Sketchy.....

Okay, I'll keep dreaming, and ride the wheels of my NS1 tomorrow, and report back when I have news that I beat Neil on his Yamaha Autolube 50.....

Fuck, Scratcha was out in super sport, on a 600 hurricane. You're a shoe in by comparison.

**quickbuck** · 10th July 2009, 22:42

Originally Posted by Drew

Fuck, Scratcha was out in super sport, on a 600 hurricane. You're a shoe in by comparison.

I know he was... and I take my hat off to him.....

Actually when the other half gets her NC30, and I get the VFR800....
Well, yes, the fiberglass clad F2 might be destined for the track....

**Drew** · 10th July 2009, 22:44

Originally Posted by quickbuck

I know he was... and I take my hat off to him.....

To him, or to do a whip around FOR him?

He's got a better bike now, if he'll just race the bastard instead of fucking with it.

**Deano** · 10th July 2009, 22:44

Originally Posted by quickbuck

Heck, this thread has transformed a little......

Neil had the week off, got bored, and come up with a really cool idea of how to get my bike out from the back of a shop 1000 metres from my house, and onto a track 18k from here........
Yes, I'm sure it was all about ME!

After reading through it all and all the views....
Well Fcuk it!
Will chuck some money at it, and clean up Super Sport on my CBR600 F2......
Watch out Sketchy.....

Okay, I'll keep dreaming, and ride the wheels of my NS1 tomorrow, and report back when I have news that I beat Neil on his Yamaha Autolube 50.....

Go hard mate - nothing wrong with some good debate and light hearted banter.