Pakeha - do you like this name?

[Morcs]

So are you agreeing with me, that it is a derogatory term?

Yes, but you just used it saying technically anyone with white skin is pakeha.

No. we arent, because as i just said, tis a word in a silly language and who cares?

[ManDownUnder]

I'm not worried but would like someone to take offense on my behalf please. I really don't care but can't stand being a member of an overly senstivie society and not contributing to it so if anyone's upset enough to be upset for me too, go right on ahead.

I'm just too lazy, oh and mentioned before - don't give a crap.

[Dean]

And how many of these are on government forms/applications and happily used by the media????

None.

My heart bleeds for you.......

This thread is about the word 'PAKEHA', NOT how many words you can use to offend maori.......although nice attempt at trying to attain the whole sympathy thing and make this about your cultures problems......

bloody typical.

Whats typical is 19 people voted the word "PAKEHA" offensive, what does that say about kber's on this, im sorry my heart doesent bleed for whining, complaining, ranting old gits. From my memory i cant remember any threads of Maori and alike discussing words they find offensive, because mainstream kb shoves them to the side. Actually one thread calls to mind, a person discussing how racisim is ever prevalent on kiwi biker especially to the minority (Maori). O but wait he got told to fuck off, bloody typical

Im not asking for your sympathy, im fine but thankyou for offering.

[Finn]

I'm just too lazy, oh and mentioned before - don't give a crap.

You Maori's are all the same.

[ManDownUnder]

You Maori's are all the same.

Ngati Whitebread bro.

[Oscar]

There is an interesting paper here:

http://www.maorinews.com/writings/pa...her/pakeha.htm

The most likely derivation seems to be from ‘Pakepakeha’ (George, 1999) mythical creatures who are mischievous, human-like beings, with fair skin and hair who lived deep in the forest, coming out only at night. (Biggs, 1988). The derivation of ‘Pakeha’ from ‘Pakepakeha’ is given added weight when we consider that the first term used to describe Cook and his crew was ‘tipua’ or ‘tupua’, a goblin or a supernatural object of terror (George, 1999).

[firefighter]

Whats typical is 19 people voted the word "PAKEHA" offensive, what does that say about kber's on this, im sorry my heart doesent bleed for whining, complaining, ranting old gits. From my memory i cant remember any threads of Maori and alike discussing words they find offensive, because mainstream kb shoves them to the side. Actually one thread calls to mind, a person discussing how racisim is ever prevalent on kiwi biker especially to the minority (Maori). O but wait he got told to fuck off, bloody typical

Im not asking for your sympathy, im fine but thankyou for offering.

LOL, as I said, this is'nt about anything else other than who finds the word offensive, yet you insist on making it about supposedly unfairly treated maori......tisktisk.

Oh yeah, check out my 'custom user title......'

It will make you aware of something........

[wbks]

Whats typical is 19 people voted the word "PAKEHA" offensive,Perhaps not everyone enjoys being labeled with something that was originally negative what does that say about kber's on this, im sorry my heart doesent bleed for whining, complaining, ranting old gits. From my memory i cant remember any threads of Maori and alike discussing words they find offensive, because mainstream kb shoves them to the side No, it's because if there are even enough people on here that identify as Maori, they probably don't give a shit about complaining over the net about something like that. I'd agree. Actually one thread calls to mind, a person discussing how racisim is ever prevalent on kiwi biker especially to the minority (Maori). O but wait he got told to fuck off, bloody typicalMaybe people didn't agree with it. Which thread?

Im not asking for your sympathy, im fine but thankyou for offering.

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Oh yea, I forgot to add: When you argue the unfair treatment of Maori when it's only about whether or not people find a word offensive, it kind of adds to the negative stereotype of Maori crying "racism" every time they hit trouble or get pissed off. Stupid complaining about something you're helping maintain, isn't it?

[Dean]

LOL, as I said, this is'nt about anything else other than who finds the word offensive, yet you insist on making it about supposedly unfairly treated maori......tisktisk.

Oh yeah, check out my 'custom user title......'

It will make you aware of something........

Simply put- i think its stupid when people rant and whinge about how they find the word offensive and "maori call me this and im going to have a cry", when they dont realise how they in general treat Maori. Its hypocritical.


Example= A fat man living in eithiopia crying because he cant get his second serving of pork, while their are hungry kids outside his doorstep.

[gatch]

I'd rather eat a sandwich and drink a beer. Woah hey look at that, sandwich and beer at hand..

chur

[Dean]

Oh yeah, check out my 'custom user title......'

You check my custom user title.....

[kiwifruit]

You check my custom user title.....

Its "you're"

[firefighter]

Simply put- i think its stupid when people rant and whinge about how they find the word offensive and "maori call me this and im going to have a cry", when they dont realise how they in general treat Maori. Its hypocritical.


Example= A fat man living in eithiopia crying because he cant get his second serving of pork, while their are hungry kids outside his doorstep.

Again, you can't help but make it about yourself........

You check my custom user title.....

You obviously missed my point, it's a piss take you monkey.....

It's all a piss - take, for you to take it this seriously means there's some truth behind it.....because we all know that hurts.......!

oh yeah, i'm secretly Naomi Cambells hairdresser!!!!!!! You got me!

[MSTRS:Me]

Yes, but you just used it saying technically anyone with white skin is pakeha.

Yep...that's what I said. The word was used by Maori to describe pale-skinned people, the meaning being less than 'respectful', shall we say.

I do not like the word Pakeha. There have been other threads on this subject, and there are plenty of viewpoints on its meaning. To me, it will always be a slightly derisory term. Like Darkie.

Anyone with a white skin is technically a Pakeha. It does not mean a white resident of this country.

Regardless of whether the meaning has changed in recent years, I still don't like the term. I am a New Zealander. All these other words to describe individuals are divisive and do not help when we should be encouraging a sense of national identity.

[Winston001]

Life's too short to get your knickers in a knot over "pakeha". I don't care. Ethnically I'm Caucasian, domiciled in New Zealander, culturally a Kiwi - with Scottish tendencies....

We'd achieve something if we could puzzle out why Aussies produce 30% more per person than us, why the media think sex and murder is actually news,........and why seemingly sane people buy bland Japanese bikes.....