The firearm thread

[Swoop]

Heads up.

Another media poll on firearms ownership.

Please visit and vote!

http://nz.yahoo.com/

[Mr Merde]

Heads up.

Another media poll on firearms ownership.

Please visit and vote!

http://nz.yahoo.com/

The answer

Yes for aself defence, intrigues me as 350 people have answered this. Self defence is not an acceptable reason , in NZ law, for obtaining or hollding a firearm

[Swoop]

The answer

Yes for aself defence, intrigues me as 350 people have answered this. Self defence is not an acceptable reason , in NZ law, for obtaining or hollding a firearm

Yup. Another well thought out poll...

[Mr Merde]

Reply from the NZDF

What is "due particularity"

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Chris, the NZDF has a a variety of firearms. Accordingly, in terms of s12 (2) of the Officlal Information Act, I invite you to frame your request with due particularity, so that I can ascertain which military specifications will be most pertinent to your request.
RegardsMike Scrivener
Snr Min Coord
HQNZDF
Tel 04 496 0037

[Drunken Monkey]

The answer

Yes for aself defence, intrigues me as 350 people have answered this. Self defence is not an acceptable reason , in NZ law, for obtaining or hollding a firearm

...but it's a truthful answer now, innit?

[Drunken Monkey]

Reply from the NZDF

What is "due particularity"

Erm, a legalese way of saying "be concise enough that I can give you an exact answer without having to do much research myself".

So instead of "please give me the specifications for the small arms the defence force purchases", you may need to say "please give me the cablibre of these previous defense force small arms purchases: 123123, 123124 and 123125"...

IIRC

(IANAL)


Edit: further to this:

“Due particularity”
However, section 12(2) of the OIA (section 10(2) of the LGOIMA) states that a request must be specified "with due particularity". This means that the person receiving the request must be reasonably able to identify the information requested.

It is important that you describe the information you are seeking as clearly as possible. Sometimes, requests are made for large amounts of information because the requester does not know exactly what type of information they are most interested in receiving or does not know how that information is held by the agency. Requests which are unclear or are too broad may result in delays, charges, or even refusals.

[sAsLEX]

Reply from the NZDF

What is "due particularity"

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Chris, the NZDF has a a variety of firearms. Accordingly, in terms of s12 (2) of the Officlal Information Act, I invite you to frame your request with due particularity, so that I can ascertain which military specifications will be most pertinent to your request.
RegardsMike Scrivener
Snr Min Coord
HQNZDF
Tel 04 496 0037

Had a look today and have a list of all weapons in the NZDF and their NSNs, the "military pattern free-standing pistol grip" of the M16 is an individual item and has its own NSN!

Need to check the classification of this information first before posting though.

[sAsLEX]

A few funnies

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A few funnies 5

[jono035]

A few funnies 5

Heh, good old Beretta 92 there, would love to get a laser on mine, then I might actually hit stuff Not sure what that clown is doing with a desert eagle though... Can't think of a situation where you'd actually use one beyond shooting targets or plinking...

[sAsLEX]

Heh, good old Beretta 92 there, would love to get a laser on mine, then I might actually hit stuff Not sure what that clown is doing with a desert eagle though... Can't think of a situation where you'd actually use one beyond shooting targets or plinking...

posing? Intimidation?

http://www.moviewavs.com/0085412111/.../replicas2.mp3


oh Shooter is on tv3 now, sweet movie!

[jono035]

posing? Intimidation?

http://www.moviewavs.com/0085412111/.../replicas2.mp3


oh Shooter is on tv3 now, sweet movie!

Yeah, it is pretty good. Few oddities in it but all in all a hell of a lot better than your average movie for realism...

Saw a show earlier where a guy tried to shoot himself with a Beretta 92 with the safety on and the hammer down. The thing made a massive click when he pulled the trigger and the guy was surprised he was still alive. Pisses me off because you couldn't even cock the hammer with the safety on, let alone have the hammer drop. *mutter*