Laxed out rides

[Cheshire Cat]

Taking a couple of learners down an unfamiliar road which is closed for roadworks during the week and runs predominantly perpendicular to the suns' trajectory in the middle of winter before noon is not so smooth. There are other ways of impressing the ladies. Hit me with some red-rep bitches.

That is true...although I must say(you might not like this james sorry) but if you don't know the road, take your time, don't try and keep up with the people who do.Thats what Spazm was there for, and THANKYOU MAN!! I Didn't know any of the roads up until Tauranga direct and thats why I was at the back most of the time. It was still fun though

[Leyton]

It was still fun though

Awsum stuff!

[Cheshire Cat]

Awsum stuff!

YES! I miss the rotomas haha....won't go there til summer me thinks though

[carver]

i can teach some of you if you feel you are having close calls on the road.

[Leyton]

YES! I miss the rotomas haha....won't go there til summer me thinks though

Hehe yeah I had seen your post regarding those!, and you got your bike home!

I want to do a ride through there in summer through to Tga one day, I do not know a way to loop the Rotoma's without going around that small lake on the gravel!, and I am not too kean on gravel, It slows me down something cronic. I was trying to put a route togeather the same as the lakes run acually but include Rotoma and stop at a cafe down there.

There are some nice roads around Rotorua a bit further south that I would like to concour. However the rides are quite far from Hamilton its a bit of a pain! because they must be done!

[Cheshire Cat]

i can teach some of you if you feel you are having close calls on the road.

I'd like to see that....

Hehe yeah I had seen your post regarding those!, and you got your bike home!

I want to do a ride through there in summer through to Tga one day, I do not know a way to loop the Rotoma's without going around that small lake on the gravel!, and I am not too kean on gravel, It slows me down something cronic.

There are some nice roads around Rotorua a bit further south that I would like to concour. However the rides are quite far from Hamilton its a bit of a pain! because they must be done!

I didn't just ride home i went another 100k or so out of town hahaa.

I know my way around the lakes!

[Leyton]

Yeah you like went all the way to Putaruru!!!!

I know my way around the lakes!

Excallent!!! I would really like to know how to make a (SEALED) loop out of Rotoma!!!, Without including Kawerau just to call it a loop :P, Tried to find a none shady cafe there with class on google maps, Failed.

[The Flux Capacita]

Your waiting for your bike to come back pending repair arent you ? Would be great to have you along finally ! hehe

yeah...wasn't riding before because of lack of funds and the bike wasn't legal/running well...finally managed to get it sorted and paid for then someone backed their car into it while it was parked the next day

his insurance is paying since i don't have any and it's no excess but being it's done through insurance i'm sure it won't be back straight away, all just cosmetic damage from the looks of things...i'm going to visit the shop tomorrow and see how it's progressing, the weather was just to nice last Sunday to just be sitting around

[Leyton]

then someone backed their car into it while it was parked the next day

OH FFS!!!!!!! Your poor man! Well hope it gets back all quick, nice and shiney and new for you!

[ckai]

his insurance is paying since i don't have any and it's no excess but being it's done through insurance i'm sure it won't be back straight away, all just cosmetic damage from the looks of things...i'm going to visit the shop tomorrow and see how it's progressing, the weather was just to nice last Sunday to just be sitting around

Start to give them a wriggle on. They're still getting paid so they have it done quicker. I don't get why insurance jobs take so long. I can understand parts getting sent in but still...

You might miss out on all the good weather breaks

[mister.koz]

I Didn't know any of the roads up until Tauranga direct and thats why I was at the back most of the time. It was still fun though

Thats one of the advantages of riding with a group, there's roads you never knew existed!

yeah...wasn't riding before because of lack of funds and the bike wasn't legal/running well...finally managed to get it sorted and paid for then someone backed their car into it while it was parked the next day

Aw dude, that sucks... i agree with ckai - you should push them a bit... if the insurance company said they will fix it then they will fix it and they will definitely pay so you don't need to wait???

[smoky]

Taking a couple of learners down an unfamiliar road which is closed for roadworks during the week

Of course you presume we knew that? And we had well cleared the road works when she came off. In fact her coming off had nothing to do with road works, and you know that.

runs predominantly perpendicular to the suns' trajectory in the middle of winter before noon is not so smooth.

Sun? WTF are on about? I didn't have the sun in my eyes at any stage over there? It was mid day.

.. it is totally against human instinct to voluntarily be within a group and not succumb to the tendancy to conform. The whole idea of "Ride your own ride" is unrealistic. It seems to be more of a condition of entry and an absolution from responsibility than a safety mechanism.

I agree - that's been argued to death on kiwibiker, most just want to put their heads in the sand and absolve themselves of blame

A bunch of males on nothing smaller than 600 let a couple of chicks, one on a 250 and one on a 150 for a 350km loop involving some of the dodgiest sections of road in the North Island... Why?

If you think that's the dodgiest road in the North Island, then you haven't been around much.
Be realistic though - it was an open invite, we're not babysitters or some kind of club, who's got the right to tell someone to go home if they turn up for a ride??
That would be like me saying to you; why did you let your un-licensed girlfriend borrow your new un-insured motor bike and go for a ride that was clearly posted as going thru Pyes Pa? Where's your responsibility?
Or did you have as much say in it as we did

How many on that ride actually have girlfriends, or even female friends? Be honest...

Your obviously so far up your self thinking we must be a bunch of rejects and retards who can't get girlfriends?

Personally, when we have any new or relatively inexperienced riders in our group, we all take the oportunity to ride at thier pace and to consolodate some of our skills which we may not have performed at legal or even safe speeds for a while, and there sure as shit is no "Ride your own ride" mentality. We ride OUR ride, and that is governed by the competence of the newest or least experienced and if we don't feel like going slow, we just don't invite the snails.

And you think this ride was any different ?
Coming from a person who doesn't even have a bike license?
Who wasn't there?

There were some 'faster riders' (not that fast though) but there were a bunch of slower riders including the one who came off, and from what I could tell they were taking it pretty casually - speed was certainly not a factor in coming off. She came off on a sealed downward tight corner with some corrugations on it, doing no more than about 70 kl/hr, hitting an oncoming vehicle that was slightly infringing on her lane. Yet she didn't even seem to get a scratch on her! Speed certainly wasn't a factor, she wasn't following anyone at the time, or trying to keep up, so that wasn't a factor, no sun in her eyes, so that wasn't a factor.

Inexperience perhaps

Shit happens

Your pissed because your bike got wasted - who let her jump on an uninsured bike with no license ? not us.

Deal with it, shove you finger up your own arse instead of pointing it at any of us

[mister.koz]

Come on people as said before:

For the people concerned and before this thread descends into chaos and things get said in the heat of the moment, can we please keep comms about this in PM's please.

So before 1/2 the thread ends up being moderated out lets move on.

I'll start;

Who's got an idea for a route sunday week? I've got a stack that we've done before and a handful we haven't.

Suggestions?

[Leyton]

Who's got an idea for a route sunday week? I've got a stack that we've done before and a handful we haven't.
Suggestions?

Will talk about at the pub tonight and get stick into Motowhere , I will bring a map tonight.

[ckai]

Who's got an idea for a route sunday week? I've got a stack that we've done before and a handful we haven't.

Suggestions?

I vote for the routes we haven't done. Do some recon work before summer hits. Going on what road conditions were like last year, I'm thinking I'm gonna be hammering the bike in Spring and not full-on Summer. Riding molten tar sucks so I'm gonna be getting in my money's worth early.

So some fresh routes would be tasty. Unless the mountain calls