Flags, colours, and their use

[scrivy]

...or your swinger screaming at you...cos he's only holding on by his left bigtoe.

Nah, he's a hard c@nt!! I know he'll always be there!! As for Kickaha...... well, he screams like a girl anyway.......

[Kickaha]

As for Kickaha...... well, he screams like a girl anyway.......

Only when you touch me wrong

[Deano]

I reckon each marshal point should have as set of road spikes, like the cops use. That'll sort it out.

[MSTRS:Me]

nope...
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...41&postcount=1

[sunhuntin]

But then I couldn't listen to my ipod..........

maybe it could be like the intercom helmets and have ipod over ride for the duration of the info being relayed?

[ajturbo]

this thread still going... yawn

[quickbuck]

this thread still going... yawn

And you bumped it so I would have a look........
Darn,
But to add... Um, MSTRS as he was indeed looking at you (through his tinted visor) I will make him come to you and say sorry at the next round......

Actually he will NEVER do what he did again, I'm sure. Barry New gave him a briefing of the likes he has never received before..... Mr New could very well hold the role of a Commanding Officer!

I agree with Frosty, and Scrivy... The whole licence thing seems a little easy to me.
Way back when I held one (for Buckets) I thought WAY COOL, now if I win lotto I can race in F1!
I'd be shyte, but I was allowed! Actually 2 things stopped me. Money... and Fear... Fear of looking like shyte, and getting in everybody's way.

18 years later, I'm actually keen...

This is after many years of watching racing on TV and realising what "When the lights go out" means!

Okay, enough.. I'm blogging, and nobody reads my posts anyway

[Skunk]

How come post #142 is missing? - did I miss anything?

[roadracingoldfart]

We just wanted the one bike off the track so we didn't need to stop the race.
In this case nothing was dropped on the track until he was beyond the last flag point before the pits.
He did a full lap knowing there was something wrong with the bike and was not at race pace. This is the point of concern to me. He should have pulled off at a safe point and checked that what he thought it was, was what it was.

Too many riders (and this is a dig at several riders - mainly from my observations - they seem to be the more 'experienced') consider themselves too important to be held up by the rules and common decency.

So if i read this post correctly , the attempt to stop the bike was done by flag marshal points for a couple of corners and yet when the bike continued and actually went past the pit wall (where the correct flag is available ) now obviously (apparantly) dropping oil and he was NOT shown the correct flag under instructions from the MNZ steward who is in touch with all the marshalls and was the instigator of the attempt to originally stop the said bike.

Isnt that a funny situation.--------------- no , thats a fuck up , but lets BBQ the poor bastard anyhow.

Whats more to the point with this post AJ is , the differance between common decency and the actual rules is a grand canyon .
If you witness a safety violation of the rules (thats what the rules are for ) then as an official you are obligated to address them immediatly.

Paul.

[roadracingoldfart]

Well, actually knowing the rider, I would have tapped 2 fingers of my right hand on my left shoulder, and then tapped my head....... with a fist shake in front of my face.
Again, everybody is going WTF? You military guys are weird.

That signal identifies his rank, and the head tap is "Come Here", and the fist shake is "On the Double".

You bloody Navy pricks are all hand waving gays anyhow , no wonder you all understand each other

[Skunk]

So if i read this post correctly , the attempt to stop the bike was done by flag marshal points for a couple of corners and yet when the bike continued and actually went past the pit wall (where the correct flag is available )

No, not quite. Flag 1, 2 or 3 saw it first I think, Flag 6 is where MSTRS was (last one before the pits). He then pulled into the pits - didn't go round to the Chief Marshalls point.

I am not BBQing him. He broke a rule and that's it. What can we reasonably do is the question.

[scrivy]

Only when you touch me wrong

Define wrong.............................

[scrivy]

I agree with Frosty, and Scrivy... The whole licence thing seems a little easy to me.
Okay, enough.. I'm blogging, and nobody reads my posts anyway

I do mate.......................

[MSTRS:Me]

So if i read this post correctly , the attempt to stop the bike was done by flag marshal points for a couple of corners and yet when the bike continued and actually went past the pit wall (where the correct flag is available ) now obviously (apparantly) dropping oil and he was NOT shown the correct flag under instructions from the MNZ steward who is in touch with all the marshalls and was the instigator of the attempt to originally stop the said bike.

No, not quite. Flag 1, 2 or 3 saw it first I think, Flag 6 is where MSTRS was (last one before the pits). He then pulled into the pits - didn't go round to the Chief Marshalls point.

We were the 6th flag...but position is known as point 7. Point 6 is only used with the track extension. We saw him go past, smoke coming from behind his fairing. He was obviously unaware of this and continued racing. He passed start/finish line and Point 1 reported he was losing fluids. The calls for marshalls to get him off the track started then. By the time he reached Point 7 again, he was by himself on the track, probably doing less then 60kph. Now he crosses the track to the outside, and continues on to exit at the pitlane.

What can we reasonably do is the question.

And we still don't have a realistic answer...

[Skunk]

I wasn't aware he had the issue before start/finish... Bugger.

That's a fail. How much time was there to get the number of the bike, get the numbers on the board, grab the black/orange flag and display it all? Probably not enough; 15-20 seconds?

We need to do something. The system is too cumbersome.